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Author Topic: London Agency or Independents?  (Read 21694 times)

Offline SammyZ

Heading to London at some stage.  Not sure pros/cons of agency against independent.  But interested in one or other of these 2 ladies:


http://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-earls-court-gloucester-road-emilia/

http://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-queensway-mariana/
 

Both look good and offer range if service.  Anyone tried them?

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=21400.0
Independents any day for me. There are good agency girls, but harder to find and more expensive.
Try this thread, it should be useful.

Online Jimmyredcab

London agencies are a minefield, all use photoshop and bait and switch is also a problem ----------- plus they tend to be expensive because the pimp takes his share.
Independents are far better ---------------- if you can find a decent one.

Not used any London agencies, there's enough indies not to. Elsewhere I've found they are a real mix bag - some do bait and switch, use fake photos, etc, but some are honest enough. Just stick to indies, there's more reviews on here and the photos are usually self-taken and real if they have positive reviews. That said if anyone could point me in the direction of a young (22 max) British student type at an agency I might give them a go - AW is really lacking in this demographic at the minute.

Offline Hector

Heading to London at some stage.  Not sure pros/cons of agency against independent.  But interested in one or other of these 2 ladies:


http://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-earls-court-gloucester-road-emilia/

http://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-queensway-mariana/
 

Both look good and offer range if service.  Anyone tried them?






http://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-bayswater-queensway-mariana/

Unsure about Emelia but tried Mariana a couple of times last year.  She is a regular over a number of London agencies under a variety of aliases.  Pics very heavily photoshopped.  Links below still photoshopped but slightly more realistic but tattoos on leg and chest edited out.

Good service but a little unreliable as she let me down on my 3rd appointment.  I turned up and she was out!!!!  No back up plan sadly. Also she used to run a separate nuru massage site but seems to have been taken down now.

http://addictivesecrets.com/escort-girl/london-escort-emily-bayswater-w2
http://addictivesecrets.com/escort-girl/london-escort-marina-bayswater-w2
http://www.auto-censored/therapists/Belle-therapy

In my view, stick to the independents as they need to work harder to keep the business and their reputations.




Offline Urban_G

I've seen Emilia or Emily as she was known as then and someone else also made a review of her recently.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=18884

Offline Outcallguy

I don't think agencies are ever worth the money.

I've had almost universal bad experiences from them.
Usually along the lines of cum once service, even though it's an hour booking.
Bait and switch, but then you either send them away and don't get laid, or keep them and be disappointed.
And they are usually £50 more than indie girls.

My expensively learnt lesson is book an indie and if they don't turn up then spend the evening doing something else. But knowing you've saved £100

Agencies=cons
Independents=depends on the individual in question, from shit to great time and good value for money. At least you can come here and see reviews on the individual wg.

I'd stick with independents.

Offline hendrix

Depends really. If you want to see the likes of Alex or Gabriella at Maxes, two of the filthiest fucks in London in my opinion, you can only see them via the agency. There are a lot of shit agencies though undoubtedly.

Offline Jason

INDEPENDENTS:
Independent escorts can mostly be found on Adultwork but also there are some with their own personal websites advertising in several escort directories (Cherry Girls, auto-censored, auto-censored, etc) putting a link to their personal websites. Few of them also simply advertise everywhere.

AGENCIES:
As I said and in a previous post there are 3 types of agencies – A, B and C.

Type A agencies are those with non-exclusive genuine escorts offering both incalls and outcalls. The pictures used by “type A” girls are photoshopped but nonetheless genuine and often accurate. “Type A” agency girls are just advertising on these agencies, getting work from them but they don't exclusively belong to a single agency. The girls live in their own premises and all the agency does is to call them and arrange the meeting on their behalf and getting 1/3 of the paid fee for the first hour. Most of these girls advertise at least in 10 such “type A” agencies (which include Admiral, Diva, Peachy, etc).

Type B and type C agencies are “outcall only” agencies and most of them have exclusive escorts. “Type B” are the completely legitimate ones with only genuine profiles advertised while “type C” are the “semi-legit” ones. By “semi-legit” we mean those “outcall only” agencies that only have 5-10 genuine escort profiles, but advertise 30 or more different profiles. Obviously these extra 20-25 profiles are fake (nb. they can be easily spotted through GRIS) and of course if you request a girl of a fake profile it will result to B&S. However if you book a girl of a real profile most chances are that you will indeed get the real girl.

There are also Type D agencies which are complete scams (i.e. organised thieves, cons). So I don't consider them as a type of agency at all.

ASSESSMENT:
Incalls:
For incalls without question Independent girls are from every point of view the best VFM. You will need to consider an agency girl only if you know she is very beautiful AND good provider and therefore is worth spending £200ph on her. But the caveat with “type A” agencies is that you don't speak to the girl prior to the meeting to discuss/confirm services. Therefore it is likely caveats such as no proper French kissing, cum once per hour, no OWO/CIM etc to crop up. 

Outcalls:
For outcalls most often the best VFM girls are the “outcall-only” girls. That is because albeit a large proportion of all escorts offer both incalls and outcalls, their outcall rates are usually at least £40-£50 per hour higher than their incall rate because according to the prossie logic the outcall fee should not be just the incall rate + travel expenses, but instead it should also include what they would have earned through incalls during their travelling time.
 
Independent "outcall only" girls outside Adultwork are non-existent. Even Adultwork is a relatively poor source of good VFM “outcall-only” girls. In London there are in total about 75 AW “outcall only” girls from which only 30 are good VFM for their looks (i.e. young, slim and pretty). On top of that many AW “outcall-only” girls don’t display phone numbers – so it’s hard to arrange a same day meeting (or a plan B outcall) with them. They also mostly work part time so they either don't bother to reply emails or give very delayed responses. Some also tend to “screen” you by your feedback score, e.g. 3 +ve minimum required which (although fine with me as I have plenty) is something that as a buyer I don’t support as I should not need a recommendation to book a prostitute.

“Outcall-only” agencies are a larger and also cheaper source of “outcall-only” girls than Adultwork with a combined total of more than 100 genuine girls (in London) priced up to £120 per hour and of whom half are very good VFM regarding looks. Also with “type B” agencies you will get a phone call from the girl to discuss services before you confirm the booking with her. Yet again service delivery and the lack of reliable feedback about these girls is an issue and things like clockwatching and timewasting techniques are common. That said you will discover a few rare gems (particularly very beautiful English girls) working with “Type B” and “Type C” agencies. So it is worth taking the risk once in a while.  :hi:

Offline Jason

After a PM request about type B and C agencies and British girls recommendations I decided instead of responding privately to respond here:

Here is the list:
Type B agencies:
1. Impulse escorts: http://www.impulse247.co.uk/escorts.html
2. Bubbles escorts: http://bubblesescorts.net/
3. Playful escorts: http://www.playful-escorts.co.uk/outcall-escorts/
4. 24carat-escorts: http://www.24carat-escorts.com/24-outcall-escorts~28.html (affiliated with Playful escorts)

Type C agencies:
1. Simply escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplyescortsuk.co.uk
2. Vogue escorts (few fakes): http://vogueescorts.co.uk/london-escorts.html
3. Diamond escorts (few fakes): http://www.diamond-escorts.com/
4. Sure Delights (few fakes): http://www.suredelights.co.uk/
5. Simply Gorgeous Escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplygorgeousescorts.co.uk/Escorts-in-London.html
6. Wonderland escorts (many fakes – only 14 of the 68 are genuine): http://www.wonderlandescorts.co.uk/
7. 110londonescorts (many fakes): http://110londonescorts.co.uk/all-escorts/

As I said in my previous post the usual caveat is the application of timewasting tactics, some clockwatching and cum times restrictions in 1hour encounters. For 2 hours the caveats usually disappear. My favourite English girl working in Impulse is Demi. Cost for 2 hours outcall is £240. Impulse charges as follows 1h £125; subsequent hours £115.
http://www.impulse247.co.uk/local-escorts/escort-demi.html

P.S: GRIS=Google Reverse Image Search

Jason

I like Demi too ! She is a lot of fun

What I have noticed is that some of the more dubious ones from Impulse end up at Diamonds and Vogue often using the same photos


Offline shagbambi

Thanks Jason for the list of agencies and breaking them down by types.  It will really help sort out Plan B when my AW booking is fucked up!  You are also very right regarding outcall only girls.  There are few and far between on AW and hard to get hold of in a hurry.

Have you used bubbles escorts?  Some of the girls look really good though I do realise they are heavily photoshopped.

Offline Jason

Just noticed that Playful Escorts and their affiliated 24Carat-escorts have now plenty of fakes profiles. So they are downgraded into the type C category.

Also from Wonderland escorts the only real profiles are:
1. Alexandra, 2. Alicja, 3. Annelyse, 4. Bianca, 5. Carla, 6. Chelsea, 7. Daniela, 8. Electra, 9. Jessika, 10. Julia, 11. Katharin, 12. Krystal, 13. Mia, 14. Olivia, 15. Paula, 16. Sophia

From Wonderlands I met Julia and Alexandra and I can recommend both. For Julia I also posted a review which you can read here.

Offline vorian

Jason, may I ask for your opinion on this agency.

http://www.londonsleadingladies.com

Thanks.
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Offline LL

Wow thanks Jason for all the info - it's been very interesting to read.  Are there any category D agencies in operation right now that you know of?  Just so we can avoid them (and because I'm curious).  Thanks.

Offline Jason

Jason, may I ask for your opinion on this agency.

http://www.londonsleadingladies.com

Thanks.

I have never used this agency and is not the typical type A agency. But I would say they are legit. However their prices are too high. And I mean that the same girls are listed in other agencies for less. For example Lauren who is listed as £200ph in their website is listed in Infinity escorts for 1h £125ph 2h 250 as Carla and as an Indie on AW for 1h £130 2h £250 as Kessy_. I have met Kessy through AW –she is a good working girl but she doesn’t French kiss (doesn’t list it though so fair enough) and aslo applies cum twice per hour principle. She is 6 mins walk from Queensway station. Also from this agency's listed girls I met Bruna (again she used to be on AW as Raissa888 for 1h £150ph 2h £280).

So you fancy a certain girl listed in that particular agency?

By the way has anyone read this article? Has anyone heart about the Madame in question and her £20K per night girls? and the former Victoria Secret supermodel who charges £25K per hour!!! :wacko:

Offline vorian

I have never used this agency and is not the typical type A agency. But I would say they are legit. However their prices are too high. And I mean that the same girls are listed in other agencies for less. For example Lauren who is listed as £200ph in their website is listed in Infinity escorts for 1h £125ph 2h 250 as Carla and as an Indie on AW for 1h £130 2h £250 as Kessy_. I have met Kessy though AW –she is a good working girl but she doesn’t French kiss (doesn’t list it though so fair enough) and aslo apllies cum twice per hour principle. She is 6 mins walk from Queenway station. Also form their listed girls I met Bruna (again she used to be on AW as Raissa888 for 1h £150ph 2h £280).

So you fancy a certain girl listed in that particular agency?

By the way has anyone read this article? Has anyone heart about the Madame in question and her £20K per night girls? and the former Victoria Secret supermodel who charges £25K per hour!!! :wacko:

Thanks for you feedback,  not interested as such but I was seeing if you have come across them before. The owner heavily touts on PN and comes across very badly and quite desperate.

Twenty five grand an hour is probably out of my price range,  wondering she charges extra for anal.  :D
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I have never used this agency and is not the typical type A agency. But I would say they are legit. However their prices are too high. And I mean that the same girls are listed in other agencies for less. For example Lauren who is listed as £200ph in their website is listed in Infinity escorts for 1h £125ph 2h 250 as Carla and as an Indie on AW for 1h £130 2h £250 as Kessy_. I have met Kessy through AW –she is a good working girl but she doesn’t French kiss (doesn’t list it though so fair enough) and aslo applies cum twice per hour principle. She is 6 mins walk from Queensway station. Also from this agency's listed girls I met Bruna (again she used to be on AW as Raissa888 for 1h £150ph 2h £280).

So you fancy a certain girl listed in that particular agency?

By the way has anyone read this article? Has anyone heart about the Madame in question and her £20K per night girls? and the former Victoria Secret supermodel who charges £25K per hour!!! :wacko:

Interesting article. Though I do note the whole article is in Tatler

So i ll expect too see a raft of Made in Chelsea wannabes making profiles on AW at 1500 per hour

Offline Jason

Wow thanks Jason for all the info - it's been very interesting to read.  Are there any category D agencies in operation right now that you know of?  Just so we can avoid them (and because I'm curious).  Thanks.

Yes there are type D "agencies" currently in operation:
1. http://www.bellelondonescorts.com/
2. http://www.vixens-london-escorts.co.uk/

For bellelondonescorts you may read more here.

Offline maxQ

I have never used this agency and is not the typical type A agency. But I would say they are legit. However their prices are too high. And I mean that the same girls are listed in other agencies for less. For example Lauren who is listed as £200ph in their website is listed in Infinity escorts for 1h £125ph 2h 250 as Carla and as an Indie on AW for 1h £130 2h £250 as Kessy_. I have met Kessy through AW –she is a good working girl but she doesn’t French kiss (doesn’t list it though so fair enough) and aslo applies cum twice per hour principle. She is 6 mins walk from Queensway station. Also from this agency's listed girls I met Bruna (again she used to be on AW as Raissa888 for 1h £150ph 2h £280).

So you fancy a certain girl listed in that particular agency?

By the way has anyone read this article? Has anyone heart about the Madame in question and her £20K per night girls? and the former Victoria Secret supermodel who charges £25K per hour!!! :wacko:

25K and hour LOL

the likes of sasha grey would never make that kind of cash

total bullshit

Offline Jason

25K and hour LOL

the likes of sasha grey would never make that kind of cash

total bullshit

Not sure whether the article is bullshit. Claudia Schiffer says that in her heydays refused a proposal from an Arab prince of £1million dollars for a dinner date and that the offer was taken by another model. Of course that might be bullshit as well but Claudia is generally a serious person (you may watch some of her various interviews on youtube).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2569862/Claudia-Schiffer-1m-indecent-proposal-Arab-prince.html

As for Sasha Grey personally I find her way overrated. She is pretty but there are tons of others much better looking than her. Never understood the big fuss about her. As for what she could charge if she were escorting: in her “Girlfriend experience” film she was charging 2000 dollars per hour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lriZ2_F7k4

Reardless of the film (which is totally fictional and unrelated to the real world) famous pornstars are not very expensive when they are escorting. The most expensive used to be porn legend Briana Banks who used to charge $5000 per hour in her heydays and now $2000 dollars per hour. The likes of Alexis Texas and Kagney Linn Karter charge $5000 for 2 hours. http://www.honeycompanion.net/#!gallery/cph

Offline LL

Yes there are type D "agencies" currently in operation:
1. http://www.bellelondonescorts.com/
2. http://www.vixens-london-escorts.co.uk/

For bellelondonescorts you may read more here.
Thanks.
Belle claim on their website, "best London escort of the year 2013".  :lol:

After a PM request about type B and C agencies and British girls recommendations I decided instead of responding privately to respond here:

Here is the list:
Type B agencies:
1. Impulse escorts: http://www.impulse247.co.uk/escorts.html
2. Bubbles escorts: http://bubblesescorts.net/
3. Playful escorts: http://www.playful-escorts.co.uk/outcall-escorts/
4. 24carat-escorts: http://www.24carat-escorts.com/24-outcall-escorts~28.html (affiliated with Playful escorts)

Type C agencies:
1. Simply escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplyescortsuk.co.uk
2. Vogue escorts (few fakes): http://vogueescorts.co.uk/london-escorts.html
3. Diamond escorts (few fakes): http://www.diamond-escorts.com/
4. Sure Delights (few fakes): http://www.suredelights.co.uk/
5. Simply Gorgeous Escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplygorgeousescorts.co.uk/Escorts-in-London.html
6. Wonderland escorts (many fakes – only 14 of the 68 are genuine): http://www.wonderlandescorts.co.uk/
7. 110londonescorts (many fakes): http://110londonescorts.co.uk/all-escorts/

As I said in my previous post the usual caveat is the application of timewasting tactics, some clockwatching and cum times restrictions in 1hour encounters. For 2 hours the caveats usually disappear. My favourite English girl working in Impulse is Demi. Cost for 2 hours outcall is £240. Impulse charges as follows 1h £125; subsequent hours £115.
http://www.impulse247.co.uk/local-escorts/escort-demi.html

P.S: GRIS=Google Reverse Image Search

Thanks Jason. This is incredibly helpful.

Offline palmer





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After a PM request about type B and C agencies and British girls recommendations I decided instead of responding privately to respond here:

Here is the list:
Type B agencies:
1. Impulse escorts: http://www.impulse247.co.uk/escorts.html
2. Bubbles escorts: http://bubblesescorts.net/
3. Playful escorts: http://www.playful-escorts.co.uk/outcall-escorts/
4. 24carat-escorts: http://www.24carat-escorts.com/24-outcall-escorts~28.html (affiliated with Playful escorts)

Type C agencies:
1. Simply escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplyescortsuk.co.uk
2. Vogue escorts (few fakes): http://vogueescorts.co.uk/london-escorts.html
3. Diamond escorts (few fakes): http://www.diamond-escorts.com/
4. Sure Delights (few fakes): http://www.suredelights.co.uk/
5. Simply Gorgeous Escorts (few fakes): http://www.simplygorgeousescorts.co.uk/Escorts-in-London.html
6. Wonderland escorts (many fakes – only 14 of the 68 are genuine): http://www.wonderlandescorts.co.uk/
7. 110londonescorts (many fakes): http://110londonescorts.co.uk/all-escorts/

As I said in my previous post the usual caveat is the application of timewasting tactics, some clockwatching and cum times restrictions in 1hour encounters. For 2 hours the caveats usually disappear. My favourite English girl working in Impulse is Demi. Cost for 2 hours outcall is £240. Impulse charges as follows 1h £125; subsequent hours £115.
http://www.impulse247.co.uk/local-escorts/escort-demi.html

P.S: GRIS=Google Reverse Image Search




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