twat storms off Good Morning Britain - Now quits

[chrishornx]

She wasn't breaking any rules; she wasn't wearing a mask so that everyone would know it was her. It was a publicity stunt by the Royals in response to that interview.

come off it the cameras were there  ..she would have been recognised with a mask on.. she didn't wear one because it wasn't needed that simple

[mh]

1.8B does not make us economic hostages to them, it does however indicate how much more valuable they are to the economy than you and I are.

And if they made me king my family would be worth 1.8bn to the economy. Gosh being of value to the economy is very easy! It's almost as if it doesn't matter who it is. 

[Liverpool]

She wasn't breaking any rules; she wasn't wearing a mask so that everyone would know it was her. It was a publicity stunt by the Royals in response to that interview.

I think her bodyguards would have made her instantly recognisable.

If it means one woman can get home safely then good on Kate for lending her support. I really don't think anyone would be that callous to use the murder of a woman walking home to deflect from the issues that the Royals have inflicted upon themselves.

[RedKettle]

I think her bodyguards would have made her instantly recognisable.

They stayed along back out of the way.

[Blackpool Rock]

Some of these posts appear to have crossed over from the other thread, strange as threads never normally go off topic 

[Jimmyredcab]

I think her bodyguards would have made her instantly recognisable.

If it means one woman can get home safely then good on Kate for lending her support.

Maybe you can educate me. 

How will vigils, demonstrations, protests make the streets any safer.   

Women need to be responsible for their own safety, when I drove the cab I had to call the police a few times because the woman had passed out through booze.

[David1970]

Maybe you can educate me. 

How will vigils, demonstrations, protests make the streets any safer.   

Women need to be responsible for their own safety, when I drove the cab I had to call the police a few times because the woman had passed out through booze.

Jimmy I think you are to old to be educated

Like an alcoholic the first thing you have to do is admit there is a problem. By highlighting the problem it makes the general public aware of the problem of females safety on the street. Once the problem is highlighted then hopefully under pressure the government will try to rectify it. If you don’t highlight it there will be no action.

Lucky they passed out in your cab and not John Worboys cab, then again by your logic he wasn’t to responsible for raping them as “women need to be responsible for their own safety”

[petermisc]

Like an alcoholic the first thing you have to do is admit there is a problem. By highlighting the problem it makes the general public aware of the problem of females safety on the street. Once the problem is highlighted then hopefully under pressure the government will try to rectify it. If you don’t highlight it there will be no action.

The thing that gets me is that a woman is actually safer on the street than a man.  Most victims of violent crime are men.

Men were more likely to be victims of CSEW violent crime than women (2.1% of males compared with 1.3% of females

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I fully agree that women should have the right to feel safe on the street, but so should men.  This issue seems to have been subverted by women's issues campaigners, who are portraying women as the only victims.  Then, as victims, they apparently have the "right" to ignore covid laws, and be treated less stringently than others who break the law.

[David1970]

The thing that gets me is that a woman is actually safer on the street than a man.  Most victims of violent crime are men.External Link/Members Only

I fully agree that women should have the right to feel safe on the street, but so should men.  This issue seems to have been subverted by women's issues campaigners, who are portraying women as the only victims.  Then, as victims, they apparently have the "right" to ignore covid laws, and be treated less stringently than others who break the law.

When it comes to rape and sexually assaulted vast majority of victims are female and vast majority of perpetrators are male. Females are targeted for assault because they are females, manly by males. Yes more males are murdered than females, but most murders are male, very few are females.

I agree with females highlighting the fact that the street are not safe for them, but they have no right to demonstrate during this pandemic breaking social distancing laws.

[Liverpool]

Maybe you can educate me. 

How will vigils, demonstrations, protests make the streets any safer.   

Women need to be responsible for their own safety, when I drove the cab I had to call the police a few times because the woman had passed out through booze.

Yes, women need to be responsible. But that doesn't mean we say "men, crack on. Rape and murder to your hearts content. It's the woman's fault".

[mh]

Women need to be responsible for their own safety

Women shouldn't get drunk, shouldn't wear revealing clothes, shouldn't walk unaccompanied...

Are you a mullah in disguise? 

[Liverpool]

Women shouldn't get drunk, shouldn't wear revealing clothes, shouldn't walk unaccompanied...

Are you a mullah in disguise? 

Don't get JRC going on Muslims!

[mh]

Don't get JRC going on Muslims!

Well if the kufi fits...

[The0neAnd0nly]

Only watched parts of the Meghan interview but couldn't be arsed watching the whole thing.

Did enjoy watching Piers Morgan lose his shit when getting called out by the weatherman. It ended up like some of the arguments you see on the threads here 

It's the Good Morning Britain episode 09/03 still available on ITV hub if anyone wants a giggle! 30 mins in

Haha just realised his name changes to Piers Morgan automatically never knew that 

[finn5555]

Don't get JRC going on Muslims!

His isn't racist is he 

[Blackpool Rock]

His isn't racist is he 

Come on Finn it's like fight club he can't talk about it 

[The Film Director]

Women shouldn't get drunk, shouldn't wear revealing clothes, shouldn't walk unaccompanied...

Are you a mullah in disguise? 

Uncanny.

[Joe Exotic]

300K less viewers this Monday Morning for GMB. Ha.

[David1970]

300K less viewers this Monday Morning for GMB. Ha.

What’s your credible source?
How many people watched the program?

[Joe Exotic]

Nowhere credible tbh. Simple google search suggests anywhere between 300-400K less viewers.

[finn5555]

What’s your credible source?

What to you would be a credible source then 

[David1970]

What to you would be a credible source then 

A credible source is one that is written by someone who is an expert in their discipline and is free of errors and bias or has a recorded of providing credible non biased information.

[David1970]

Nowhere credible tbh. Simple google search suggests anywhere between 300-400K less viewers.

Can you please post the credible link that you got the information from, thank you.

[LLPunting]

A credible source is one that is written by someone who is an expert in their discipline and is free of errors and bias or has a recorded of providing credible non biased information.

We're hard to find in RL these days, most got cancelled.  Many have taken to paying for sex and reporting facts on fringe interest forums.

[David1970]

We're hard to find in RL these days, most got cancelled.  Many have taken to paying for sex and reporting facts on fringe interest forums.

Sorry don’t understand your reply about a reliable news source?

[LLPunting]

The thing that gets me is that a woman is actually safer on the street than a man.  Most victims of violent crime are men.External Link/Members Only

I fully agree that women should have the right to feel safe on the street, but so should men.  This issue seems to have been subverted by women's issues campaigners, who are portraying women as the only victims.  Then, as victims, they apparently have the "right" to ignore covid laws, and be treated less stringently than others who break the law.

Are you a Jordan Peterson fan?
 
Quoting headline numbers to advance an argument is not substantiation, it's spin.  You don't have to suffer physical harm to be a victim of violence, living in fear or having to inhibit oneself for fear of harassment makes you a victim.  Strip the male victim numbers down to "innocent males suffering unprovoked harassment or harm" and then we start to get a more interesting picture, qualify it by sexuality or race of victims and attackers and you start to get to a more relevant truth, adjust for relative apparent strength, factor in physical attractiveness, whether either party was under the influence of alcohol or non-pacifying substances, and so on.

Equality of liberty and opportunity is not just about elevating victims' rights it's about men foregoing being arseholes in many facets of their behaviour.

[David1970]

300K less viewers this Monday Morning for GMB. Ha.

Nowhere credible tbh. Simple google search suggests anywhere between 300-400K less viewers.

So no credible source, just made up?

[LLPunting]

Sorry don’t understand your reply about a reliable news source?

Oh, you wanted a non-satirical elucidation.

Most every news source is biased, readership pandering, editorial steering, "unintended" omission bias, lazy reporting, etc.  That is on top of lack of rigour in verifying data sources and obtaining and considering corroborating and counter-factual evidence.

We cannot report exact viewership numbers, nor the circumstances that led any given viewer to watch or not watch.  Viewing figs are interpolated from arguably small samples of limited accuracy.  It may be better than over the air broadcasting days but unless you have analysis via cameras confirming an attentive audience you're still guessing.  Under these caveats the quantification of "more" or "less" will be less than precise but the generalisation is more reliable than not.

[Joe Exotic]

Perhaps you didn’t read my last post - no credible source - per my definition of credibility.

However, if we’re going by yours:
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Both Experts in their journalistic fields of discipline and no typos hahahah.

[Liverpool]

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Just one of many to report the ratings drop.

[Joe Exotic]

Again, not credible in my view, but you get the picture

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[David1970]

Perhaps you didn’t read my last post - no credible source - per my definition of credibility.

However, if we’re going by yours:
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Both Experts in their field of discipline and no typos hahahah.

One says audience down 300,000 the other says down 500,000, your correct not credible

[David1970]

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Just one of many to report the ratings drop.

Looking at that graph the figures have been going down for a year, or am I reading the wrongly?

[Liverpool]

Looking at that graph the figures have been going down for a year, or am I reading the wrongly?

I would imagine for a news and current affairs programme there would be peaks and troughs depending on the news of the day. Plus I believe Piers and Susannah are/were contracted for 3 days a week.

[David1970]

I would imagine for a news and current affairs programme there would be peaks and troughs depending on the news of the day. Plus I believe Piers and Susannah are/were contracted for 3 days a week.

Seems the day Morgan was on air was a freak figures, first time they have ever beaten the BBC morning program in GMB history. So the figures are back to normal, no massive drop.

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[tynetunnel]

Looking at that graph the figures have been going down for a year, or am I reading the wrongly?

I dunno but you’re very argumentative 

[David1970]

I dunno but you’re very argumentative 

I like to know where information comes from and if it is credible, if you think that’s argumentative ok.

[Joe Exotic]

I like to know where information comes from and if it is credible, if you think that’s argumentative ok.

Mate this is a website where random blokes report and read up on prostitutes

[David1970]

Mate this is a website where random blokes report and read up on prostitutes

I am not your mate just a random bloke as you say. Yes the review and discussion boards are about reviews and discussing prostitutes, but the information need to be correct not made up. If you read the covid vaccine thread on Off Topic you will see why having verifiable information is important.





Review and discussion boards

[mh]

300K less viewers this Monday Morning for GMB. Ha.

Really?

1) Was the audience for his final appearance particularly high because everyone expected fireworks?
2) Or is the comparison with the previous Monday?
3) Or a typical Monday in case that was a slow news day?
4) What about across a whole week? Heaven forfend we wait until there are representative figures...
 

[petermisc]

Are you a Jordan Peterson fan?
 
Quoting headline numbers to advance an argument is not substantiation, it's spin.  You don't have to suffer physical harm to be a victim of violence, living in fear or having to inhibit oneself for fear of harassment makes you a victim.  Strip the male victim numbers down to "innocent males suffering unprovoked harassment or harm" and then we start to get a more interesting picture, qualify it by sexuality or race of victims and attackers and you start to get to a more relevant truth, adjust for relative apparent strength, factor in physical attractiveness, whether either party was under the influence of alcohol or non-pacifying substances, and so on.

No idea who JP is, let alone a fan.

I wasn't quoting headline figures, I was quoting official statistics.  And those statistics cover all forms of physical aggression.  Obfuscate it as much as you want, but as the statistics show, in almost every category, males make up the majority of the victims.  And the simple, hard, undisputable fact is that outside the home, females are far less likely to be assaulted than men.

I take your point that we should ignore those males who were asking for it, those not "innocent males suffering unprovoked harassment or harm".  Presumably you think female victims should be treated and categorised likewise?

As for " factor in physical attractiveness, whether either party was under the influence of alcohol or non-pacifying substances, and so on." are you really saying that attacks on the pretty and sober are more serious than on those who are ugly or drunk?!!!

[David1970]

No idea who JP is, let alone a fan.

I wasn't quoting headline figures, I was quoting official statistics.  And those statistics cover all forms of physical aggression.  Obfuscate it as much as you want, but as the statistics show, in almost every category, males make up the majority of the victims.  And the simple, hard, undisputable fact is that outside the home, females are far less likely to be assaulted than men.

Do these official figures on all forms of physical aggression include rape and sexual assault?

Can you please post a link to the official statistics you quote

[Jimmyredcab]

Lucky they passed out in your cab and not John Worboys cab, then again by your logic he wasn’t to responsible for raping them as “women need to be responsible for their own safety”

The John Worboys case was over 10 years ago, he was a rogue cab driver, just as sometimes you get a rogue policeman or rogue Doctor (Harold Shipman).

Woman have a right to go out and have lots to drink but not to reach the stage where they pass out.
The reason I had to call the police is that we are advised not to get into the back of the taxi.

[finn5555]

Woman have a right to go out and have lots to drink but not to reach the stage where they pass out.

They can do what they like, or you saying there is a law saying they cant do this 

[Jimmyredcab]

They can do what they like, or you saying there is a law saying they cant do this 

Yes, they can drink until they pass out, that's not illegal ------------------- but if you had a daughter would you feel comfortable with her acting like that.   

[finn5555]

Yes, they can drink until they pass out, that's not illegal ------------------- but if you had a daughter would you feel comfortable with her acting like that.   

That isn't the point, the point was you said they don't have a right to do it, so you were factually incorrect 

[Paris69]

Women have the right to drink until they are mortal drunk; and at that point they should still be able to feel safe... but that's in an ideal world - and we are nowhere f***ing close to that. In the history of humankind, our societies have been/are brutal and violent.

But (I think) JRC's point was no matter how we see things in the perfect sense, 'personal responsibility' should always be 'in the mix'.
Who wouldn't want their kids to grow up 'without' common sense and street smarts to an extent? rather than hope cultural and societal niceties will protect them.

In current, liberal (small l) Govt speak 'people will do the right thing'..
No they wont! Come and work with me for a week and your outlook on society will change immeasurably..

[mh]

Women have the right to drink until they are mortal drunk; and at that point they should still be able to feel safe... but that's in an ideal world - and we are nowhere f***ing close to that.

That is all correct, but where are the steps being taken to work towards it? Women are sick of being told how to "keep themselves safe" by not going out, not going out alone, not dressing provocatively, not getting drunk, not using public transport, not cycling, not walking, not speaking to strangers, not leaving their drink unattended, in short not functioning as a complete human being because too many men are cunts. What they want to see is men standing up to their cuntish mates, men not harassing them, men not following them, men not chatting them up just because some Incel who wrote a book says they always want it really and even if they don't it's a numbers game...

[Paris69]

That is all correct, but where are the steps being taken to work towards it? Women are sick of being told how to "keep themselves safe" by not going out, not going out alone, not dressing provocatively, not getting drunk, not using public transport, not cycling, not walking, not speaking to strangers, not leaving their drink unattended, in short not functioning as a complete human being because too many men are cunts. What they want to see is men standing up to their cuntish mates, men not harassing them, men not following them, men not chatting them up just because some Incel who wrote a book says they always want it really and even if they don't it's a numbers game...

Nothing to disagree with here for me.. Women 'shouldn't need to keep themselves safe'....
It's a societal problem that we are not even close to resolving......

[petermisc]

Do these official figures on all forms of physical aggression include rape and sexual assault?
Can you please post a link to the official statistics you quote

See #107