Emotional Attachment Syndrome

[peter purves]

 

same price 

 

[mediumjoe]

I have  just caught up with the last three pages and I can't believe what I've been reading.

    FFS, some of you shouldn't be allowed out on your own didn't your mothers ever tell you anything about girls,   They aren't  all pink candy and ponies! We're talking manipulative women here  Who will take you for anything they can get.

  I had better be careful what I say four posters in a row a bit further back up the hill have just been banned,  not sure what for but it's obviously a dangerous topic .

But I really do feel that some of the posters on this thread need help. Joe

[Clarkey]

+1 Joe - worrying.

[Marmalade]

Just a thought about the Hungarian. Britain is one of the few countries that has largely dumped the idea of men paying for everything. Even EE civvies think it is the norm for men to pay for everything and even when they are earning or earning more than he does. If you a little inexperienced at dating or punting, a high proportion of women of almost any country will see you in terms of meal ticket capacity. Some knowingly view it like that. Others just tell themselves it is "more romantic". In my opinion it is not: it is as romantic as taking a dog for a walk.


I will possibly buy a woman a drink if I like her and find her interesting to talk to. If she doesn't buy the next round I will think less of her and either lose interest or tell her it's her round. If I have an outcall, I will offer the prossie a drink and let her choose and pour her own before saying shall we take them to the bedroom. A gesture may be 'gentlemanly': an open cheque is 'stupidity'. Given the chance, even otherwise decent women will accept ongoing meal tickets. It is better to play hard at the beginning, otherwise you will never, ever see the ball again.

[Honolulu]

I've been with my WG since Xmas.  Things are going well.

I'm seeing her couple times a week and things are good.  I've spent about £300 a month on hotels, meals and drinks.  Zero on actually paying her.

I've not paid for her time, other than that one time  when we exchanged numbers at a paid punt.

I've not seen any drawbacks so far.  I met her on the job, and I'm not one to care much her getting shagged by strangers. I'm not leaving my missus anytime soon, our complicated life sort of works at the moment.

If I was asked to pay for her time, I would certainly move on fast. If I was asked to pay for her travels or a holiday, i would jog on.

Interestingly, I saw an WG last week on the clock.  I don't feel terrible, as my side-piece is shagging punters. 

I feel once a punter always a punter. I don't believe any bloke who would say they would stop punting when they meet the right girl.

[hsn23]

I feel once a punter always a punter. I don't believe any bloke who would say they would stop punting when they meet the right girl.

Umm I would if I met the right girl I would stop punting in a heartbeat. I only punt to get the sex out of my system. This usually happens when I'm inbetween girlfriends.

[JohnnyPark]

Just found this on SAAFE.
It is quite interesting to see what the WGs think about this.
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That was actually one of the most helpful things I read. I can understand where the WGs are coming from. Some of those guys they referenced are as they say 'delusional' and complete lunatics.

Where my EAS is concerned I would never push the boundaries with the woman I have mentioned. After what the WGs said on SAAFE I definately would not bring it to her attention that I had feelings for her.

I honestly think there is a mutual connection between us or she is a fucking oscar winner. Enjoying sex is the easy one to fake but it is a lot harder for a woman to look into your eyes, tell you how she feels, reveal personal information and for that to be fake. Especially if she has no attraction to you.

I think if any sort of emotional relationship is to form between a WG and Punter it has to evolve organicaly. Boundaries can't be pushed by either party.

[Honolulu]

That was actually one of the most helpful things I read. I can understand where the WGs are coming from. Some of those guys they referenced are as they say 'delusional' and complete lunatics.

Where my EAS is concerned I would never push the boundaries with the woman I have mentioned. After what the WGs said on SAAFE I definately would not bring it to her attention that I had feelings for her.

I honestly think there is a mutual connection between us or she is a fucking oscar winner. Enjoying sex is the easy one to fake but it is a lot harder for a woman to look into your eyes, tell you how she feels, reveal personal information and for that to be fake. Especially if she has no attraction to you.

I think if any sort of emotional relationship is to form between a WG and Punter it has to evolve organicaly.

I would agree if EAS is rejected by the WG - it's time for punter to move on.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

That was actually one of the most helpful things I read. I can understand where the WGs are coming from. Some of those guys they referenced are as they say 'delusional' and complete lunatics.

Where my EAS is concerned I would never push the boundaries with the woman I have mentioned. After what the WGs said on SAAFE I definately would not bring it to her attention that I had feelings for her.

I honestly think there is a mutual connection between us or she is a fucking oscar winner. Enjoying sex is the easy one to fake but it is a lot harder for a woman to look into your eyes, tell you how she feels, reveal personal information and for that to be fake. Especially if she has no attraction to you.

I think if any sort of emotional relationship is to form between a WG and Punter it has to evolve organicaly. Boundaries can't be pushed by either party.

Dude her job is to be 'a fucking oscar winner', I know it hurts to hear it and nobody can say for sure that you're wrong but odds are that ... none of us stand a chance with these women before we've even got in the door, because we're punters. Psychologically, we're clients, customers, people to have a service provided to, one of probably many on that day, there's nothing unique about us to them - nor should there be, it's a business. Not only are there threads on SAAFE about deluded clients and EAS, but also about things like how to create a 'fake-real' second identity so punters can think they are getting to know the real woman.

I'm not entirely sure how representative SAAFE actually is of most WGs - seems a lot more bitter and hostile than I would assume the average WG is - but it's certainly an eye opener to read some of the opposite perspective on a lot of things.

[peter purves]

I'm not entirely sure how representative SAAFE actually is of most WGs - seems a lot more bitter and hostile than I would assume the average WG is - but it's certainly an eye opener to read some of the opposite perspective on a lot of things.

Just finished reading the EAS link and found it interesting as well

[JohnnyPark]

Dude her job is to be 'a fucking oscar winner', I know it hurts to hear it and nobody can say for sure that you're wrong but odds are that ... none of us stand a chance with these women before we've even got in the door, because we're punters. Psychologically, we're clients, customers, people to have a service provided to, one of probably many on that day, there's nothing unique about us to them - nor should there be, it's a business. Not only are there threads on SAAFE about deluded clients and EAS, but also about things like how to create a 'fake-real' second identity so punters can think they are getting to know the real woman.

I'm not entirely sure how representative SAAFE actually is of most WGs - seems a lot more bitter and hostile than I would assume the average WG is - but it's certainly an eye opener to read some of the opposite perspective on a lot of things.

I would have to agree with you Jeff. As I said with UK girls I can see the charade and I find it easy to define the boundaries. One of the girls said to me 'I'm not here to give you compliments I'm here to get you hard' I found that refreshingly honest and very funny.

However with this Hungarian woman there are seriously blurred lines. With her I have just been doing lots of listening and not asking many questions. I keep the conversations light, tell jokes etc but she pours it on thick. Shit like asking me to go away with her and making a joke out of it. I don't need to hear that.

So I am on the fence with her. On the 1 hand the sex is mind blowing. There is mutual physical attraction. I have a good laugh with her, get on with her and we have a lot in common. She is very good company. However I do have feelings for her and I have done since the first meeting.

Do I have the mental fortitude to carry on seeing her for what it is and keep my feelings to myself? Or do I run away and shag a bunch of other WGs to get her out of my head?

I know what answer the majority of members on this forum will go with and which is actually the logical answer. However I always go with my heart and gut.

You are right Jeff in that we are already pre-judged as just another punter before we even get through the door. Also the majority of the WGs on SAAFE will not allow themselves to get feelings without nipping it in the bud first.

So at the end of the day, to the WG, if I develop feelings for her I am a liability to het livelyhood. I know I would never over step her boundries but the WG judges me by other badly behaved clients. It does not matter how kind, funny, intelligent, well balanced and handsome I am, I am still just a punter.

The funny thing is I'm a single guy and I don't want the ballache and drama of a relationship. That is one of the reasons I started punting. I didn't expect my feelings to get involved. I kind of wish I had not started.

[Marmalade]

Decide what you want and stick to it. If you find her charade unsettling or confusing, just tell her

[JohnnyPark]

Decide what you want and stick to it. If you find her charade unsettling or confusing, just tell her

Thanks marmalade. I have left a voicemail and txt with her requesting a booking for wednesday. I've kept it professional but it will be the 3rd visit in 2 weeks.

I think that is a good suggestion to let her know I am confused by our meetings. I'm not too sure how I would word that.

She did ask me why I was back so soon after our first meeting. I smiled and was honest 'because I liked our time together and wanted to see you again'.

Know this about me I'm not the 'saviour' guy wanting to take her away from it all. I find that insulting to the woman and also i'm not a wealthy man

I just like her. Not the escort. I would like to get to know her better. If I could afford it I would like to spend more time with her.

[hsn23]

That robin thicke song blurred lines from a few years ago suddenly makes a lot more sense after this thread.

[Thecunninglinguist]

Whilst l am not trying to second guess the Hungarian woman, you do have to look at the possibility of her seeing a meal ticket as well? If you have been seeing her a while, she will know how much you are spending a month, the sort of clothes you wear, what your car is maybe? Just from the conversations you have been having, she will have formed some opinion of what she thinks you are worth. She may also like her life in the UK and sees that with brexit she may have to leave if she is not involved  legitimate work.
Not saying this in a nasty way as you are a big boy and can make your own decisions but you do have to take the possibility into account.

[JohnnyPark]

Whilst l am not trying to second guess the Hungarian woman, you do have to look at the possibility of her seeing a meal ticket as well? If you have been seeing her a while, she will know how much you are spending a month, the sort of clothes you wear, what your car is maybe? Just from the conversations you have been having, she will have formed some opinion of what she thinks you are worth. She may also like her life in the UK and sees that with brexit she may have to leave if she is not involved  legitimate work.
Not saying this in a nasty way as you are a big boy and can make your own decisions but you do have to take the possibility into account.

I absolutely know where you are coming from. I have only actually seen her twice but had feelings from the first meet.

I know she is independant, has a high rating and a large clent base. She did an over nighter last week and that was a £1000. So i think she is doing ok money wise.

That's another thing she talks about, other clients. She tells me about this over nighter and that she cooked for him and has spoke about other clients. I don't understand why she tells me things like that. Ok I am easy going and very easy to talk but why would I want to know about other clients? Again confusing.

[JohnnyPark]

Ok got a meeting with her tomorrow. She said she can't wait to see me again. Pinch of salt. More like she can't wait to
see my £100.

I am going to lay it out. I don't want to save her, I don't want her to change, I would never compromise her livelyhood, I'm not that guy who would push boundries into her personal life,  I wouldn't be calling, texting and being an inappropriate stalker. I just like her. If she feels comfortable, seeing me as a client with that knowledge, all well and good. If it is something she is uncomfortable with, I say goodbye and walk away. I then look for my next punt 

[Marmalade]

Thanks marmalade. I have left a voicemail and txt with her requesting a booking for wednesday. I've kept it professional but it will be the 3rd visit in 2 weeks.

I think that is a good suggestion to let her know I am confused by our meetings. I'm not too sure how I would word that.

"I enjoy GFE but not too much. I like to keep reality separate. You're lovely but I know it's a business arrangement. If it were a date we'd both be paying half for everything."

She did ask me why I was back so soon after our first meeting. I smiled and was honest 'because I liked our time together and wanted to see you again'.

1. Most likely scenario: you're creeping her out.
2. One in a thousand scenario, and assuming you are roughly her equal in age and looks, she is eying up the possibility of free meals, nights out, help with her electric bill, new pair of tits.

Know this about me I'm not the 'saviour' guy wanting to take her away from it all. I find that insulting to the woman and also i'm not a wealthy man

You've answered most of your own question. Why the fuck would someone on a mega-salary be interested in a relatively poor fuck such as your dear self? Bear in mind many women have zero fucking morals in the matter. They say to themselves, "If he wants to give it, I'm not going to say no." In her mind you are a cheap peasant. But it might save a few grand if he takes her to Orlando rather than paying the airfare herself. Prossie eco-nomics.

I just like her. Not the escort. I would like to get to know her better. If I could afford it I would like to spend more time with her.

You like escort. The idea that you like the 'person' is a fantasy. You've never met her on equal terms outside of work have you? If you did, did she keep up when you spent money, round for round? Bottom line, not only you don't know her, you never will. You're dug in too deep mate.

There's always the chance, a slim one, that the prossie is so thick she has deluded herself. Eventually her period or bank balance kicks in though and she thinks what the fuck, the guy is a cheap shot punter that paid me to have sex, again and again. He can buy me a new pair of tits or fuck off."

[Thecunninglinguist]

"He can buy me a new pair of tits or fuck off" What a great statement to bring someone to their senses. Because when that day comes she will have calculated she gets the new tits........or whatever is is she desires.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

My personal opinion is that you should probably not see this woman again. There's plenty of other women out there that don't have all this baggage on both sides, i don't see what's to be achieved by seeing her again, at all.

[5th Musketeer]

Thanks marmalade. I have left a voicemail and txt with her requesting a booking for wednesday. I've kept it professional but it will be the 3rd visit in 2 weeks.

I think that is a good suggestion to let her know I am confused by our meetings. I'm not too sure how I would word that.

She did ask me why I was back so soon after our first meeting. I smiled and was honest 'because I liked our time together and wanted to see you again'.

Know this about me I'm not the 'saviour' guy wanting to take her away from it all. I find that insulting to the woman and also i'm not a wealthy man

I just like her. Not the escort. I would like to get to know her better. If I could afford it I would like to spend more time with her.

If she is your first review, her AW profile appears to have disappeared now.

[OakTree]

Ok got a meeting with her tomorrow. She said she can't wait to see me again. Pinch of salt. More like she can't wait to
see my £100.

I am going to lay it out. I don't want to save her, I don't want her to change, I would never compromise her livelyhood, I'm not that guy who would push boundries into her personal life,  I wouldn't be calling, texting and being an inappropriate stalker. I just like her. If she feels comfortable, seeing me as a client with that knowledge, all well and good. If it is something she is uncomfortable with, I say goodbye and walk away. I then look for my next punt 

If I was you I'd listen to what marmalade has said.

This pastime is about uncomplicated sex. I would suggest you reflect on that and maybe consider that punting is not for you.

[bigmanbigman]

Your making a world of pain for yourself if you carry on this  set up.

[cueball]

Ok got a meeting with her tomorrow. She said she can't wait to see me again. Pinch of salt. More like she can't wait to
see my £100.

100 english pounds?..... now, that's my kind of eas... link?.... if she's on my patch, I'll go and podge her. You'll feel better too.... knowing I've been slobbering all over her 

[NervousJ]

Have we seen a link for her yet....

I'm curious to know what she looks like....yes yes, I know I'm a nosy bugger.. She must be a good 8 or 9 for this carry on....

All I would say is you don't seem daft, just go into this knowing what everyone has said..

[kojak71]

I shared my current situation, and frankly appreciate getting the rough house, because this shit is nuts.  I'm new to banging WGs and would prefer a GF that accepts me still having a wife.

One of your reviews in 2016 says it is your first punt in 20 years.

Which one is the lie? Both?

Still waiting for a response as to how your 'broken soul' detector works as well - I don't recall it being an option one can select on aw.

As for your engaging in extended whatsapp conversations prior to handing over money to the wg........ and going missing from your family for days at a time seemingly without recriminations.

Yes, all in all you put forward a great and compelling case.

Some of the other EAS posters in this thread appear to be genuine and need good advice to help them get out, as it were, not read your made-up cack that probably gives them false hope and dreams.

[hsn23]

Just finished watching this documentary that popped up on my recommended list on YouTube about sugar daddy relationships. It was quite interesting to watch but the Asian bitch kept pissing me off with her patronizing comments and demeanour throughout. The reason I post this on EAS is because there's this one old white guy who's with this youngish black girl, and he's been with for over 10 years and has given her several thousand dollars a month in allowance and HES NEVER BANGED HER. I don't know whether to believe it or not but if it's true this guys the biggest fluff on the planet.

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[mikexxlong]

All this broken soul shit
Sounds creepy and predatory

The kind of thing traffickers/ pimps as well as other sinister scumbags looks for in victims,
 basically vulnerable people to manipulate and take advantage off for their own gain or twisted thrills

Unless it’s to do with being hero worshiped ?, or  the oh your such a kind caring gentle man your so special
 I wish there was more like you in the world type thing, makes you feel good?

Just all a bit weird to me

[Jeff_withpetersen]

Any WG worth her salt should have the decency to recognise when someone is going off the deep end with regards to EAS and knock it on the head with a gentle let-down.

I suspect a lot of these issues are caused by a combination of deluded, lonely, possibly mentally ill men + greedy WGs who either fully intend to exploit them for all they are worth, or just 'play them for a bit for a few extra quid, after all what's the harm' and then let them down gently, by which point it's too late.

I honestly don't know what universe some of the posters on this thread are beaming in from.

[Mr_Shins]

I am still in contact with one of my EAS girls. She doesn't work anymore in this field. She got some reviews on here. She was my Valentine's Day punt in 2016.

The other one, who only saw me and then left A/W, I don't have contact with anymore. She blocked me on WhatsApp after we said goodbye in early December.

I had a Valentine's Day punt this week too. Beautiful woman I am very fond of, but not rich enough. She has some very rich clients. We get on really well, but it cost me close to £400: £320 for a 2-hour punt, £45 or so for the takeaway Chinese dinner I ordered and £16.50 for the flowers I bought her.

I may stop visiting this site and UKE soon. I have my regulars now and don't need any others and not sure I need to see the reviews. Coming to sites like this and UKE only tempts you.

[Brazilian Martian]

I am still in contact with one of my EAS girls. She doesn't work anymore in this field. She got some reviews on here. She was my Valentine's Day punt in 2016.

The other one, who only saw me and then left A/W, I don't have contact with anymore. She blocked me on WhatsApp after we said goodbye in early December.

I had a Valentine's Day punt this week too. Beautiful woman I am very fond of, but not rich enough. She has some very rich clients. We get on really well, but it cost me close to £400: £320 for a 2-hour punt, £45 or so for the takeaway Chinese dinner I ordered and £16.50 for the flowers I bought her.

I may stop visiting this site and UKE soon. I have my regulars now and don't need any others and not sure I need to see the reviews. Coming to sites like this and UKE only tempts you.

Well sounds like you have the perfect set up  you will be surely missed when you stop visiting this site 

[YorkshireLad]

£45 or so for the takeaway Chinese dinner I ordered and £16.50 for the flowers I bought her.

FFS she is a prostitute not your girlfriend. That could have been a 30 minute punt with another WG 

[hsn23]

FFS she is a prostitute not your girlfriend. That could have been a 30 minute punt with another WG 

Give him a break he wants to live out his fantasy of being in a relationship with a hot young thing 

[JohnnyPark]

Any WG worth her salt should have the decency to recognise when someone is going off the deep end with regards to EAS and knock it on the head with a gentle let-down.

I suspect a lot of these issues are caused by a combination of deluded, lonely, possibly mentally ill men + greedy WGs who either fully intend to exploit them for all they are worth, or just 'play them for a bit for a few extra quid, after all what's the harm' and then let them down gently, by which point it's too late.

I honestly don't know what universe some of the posters on this thread are beaming in from.

Ok you do have a point but I think all punters and all WGs should not be tarred with the same brush.

I'm certainly not delusional, lonely or mentally unstable. From the first meeting, with the WG I like, I knew there was something between us other than a business transaction. By our 3rd visit I decided to ask her out on a date. Hey I have nothing to lose. If she says no I walk away. I am sad for a while but it fades. Believe me I have wrestled with myself about how difficult it would be to date a WG. However life is too short to not take chances and live in regret.

As it happens she has feelings for me. it is not 1 sided. All her nervous energy with me, her saying I make her so happy, revealing her personal life, name etc was all genuine. She's not that good of an actor.

Ok so now I have asked her out and presented her with the red pill or the blue pill. The client/escort business transaction has now been dissolved.

She is around about 32 - 35. So she has a head on her shoulders. She explains to me she made a rule that she does not date clients. I listened. She had dated 2 previous clients and they were both bell ends. Clingy, delusional or wanting to just get services for free.

She explains the plans for her personal life and that it is not a good idea and not fair on whoever she is dating. I listened and all I could say was I understood what she was saying and she was right. I never pushed it. She then said. She would think about it.

I was getting dressed and she then said ok we'll go for a coffee. She is working next week but not the week after and will text me and we can meet up. We have only met 3 times but I think she knew when I walked out that apartment I will not be contacting her again for an escort/client transaction or otherwise.

I look at it like this. I either hear from her and we go out and see what developes from there or I don't hear from her and that's where the story ends. It is what it is.

I am under no illusion to what she does for a living but she is a human being with feelings, desires, a good heart and a genuine woman. A lot of cynics on here see all WGs as gold digging, devious, amoral harpies. I have no doubt a lot of them are like that but she is not one of them.

Why don't I meet a woman in civvy life? Because I am not looking. I don't want a relationship and that is why I have been seeing WGs. Having feelings for a WG is certainly something I did not expect or was looking for.

[Mr_Shins]

It is often called "GFE" and it takes both sides to make it that.

You act out like you are a couple during the time you are together. But you know that:

1. She won't see you unless you pay her
2. She has other men paying to see her too
3. You are also free to see other women whenever you like.
4. You call her when you want a date, she doesn't call you.
5. You're paying so it's mostly about what you want, not what she wants.

[JohnnyPark]

Have we seen a link for her yet....

I'm curious to know what she looks like....yes yes, I know I'm a nosy bugger.. She must be a good 8 or 9 for this carry on....

All I would say is you don't seem daft, just go into this knowing what everyone has said..

I could post a link but I'm not gonna 

Oh god no I'm not daft. I have actually took on board everything everybody has said. Some of it is rather cynical but all usefull.

If you have read my above post you now know what the outcome was.

[BlueRock]

I have an issue around this myself. I saw a lady twice whilst in another part of the country on business. Sometime later she contacted me using a fairly weak excuse.
Anyway she is very chatty over text and its not sexual chat, theres tge odd compliment e.g. you're funny/cute but its not all the time. Not once has she mentioned money or bookings the closest consists of "there is some nice museums around here" or similar. I presumed this meant you visit the attraction on your own then make a booking with me. However she is not in my hot list and when I searched shes retired from escorting. Is she after an unofficial booking or something else? I generally don't trust women civvie or WG so am dubious to ever visit these museums!

[JohnnyPark]

I have an issue around this myself. I saw a lady twice whilst in another part of the country on business. Sometime later she contacted me using a fairly weak excuse.
Anyway she is very chatty over text and its not sexual chat, theres tge odd compliment e.g. you're funny/cute but its not all the time. Not once has she mentioned money or bookings the closest consists of "there is some nice museums around here" or similar. I presumed this meant you visit the attraction on your own then make a booking with me. However she is not in my hot list and when I searched shes retired from escorting. Is she after an unofficial booking or something else? I generally don't trust women civvie or WG so am dubious to ever visit these museums!

Tricky one that. What kind of museums? 

Is her profile just not hidden on AW? Girls will do that sometimes when they are having a break or just don't want to be inundated with calls and texts.

It could be it's a bit slow for her so she is just trying to drum up business. Or she could genuinely like you.

Keep an open mind.

[mrbobbit]

This whole discussion is depressingly polarised.

I have been punting for 30 years and cannot recall how many WGs I have seen in that time all over the country. In that time I have seen 3 who I chose to see regularly. Why? I liked them and we got on and found some common ground.

Those three became regulars and favourites BECAUSE we got on beyond the shagging.

Two I saw off the clock (one frequently and still do) because we get on and I find that makes the sex better.

Is that EAS? No, it means I like some folks much more than others and sometimes that is reciprocated. No stalking, no fantasies, just a human connection.

Is this wrong?

[MrMatrix]

This whole discussion is depressingly polarised.

I have been punting for 30 years and cannot recall how many WGs I have seen in that time all over the country. In that time I have seen 3 who I chose to see regularly. Why? I liked them and we got on and found some common ground.

Those three became regulars and favourites BECAUSE we got on beyond the shagging.

Two I saw off the clock (one frequently and still do) because we get on and I find that makes the sex better.

Is that EAS? No, it means I like some folks much more than others and sometimes that is reciprocated. No stalking, no fantasies, just a human connection.

Is this wrong?

No its not wrong. Wish I could find some one like that TBH. 

[hsn23]

This whole discussion is depressingly polarised.

I have been punting for 30 years and cannot recall how many WGs I have seen in that time all over the country. In that time I have seen 3 who I chose to see regularly. Why? I liked them and we got on and found some common ground.

Those three became regulars and favourites BECAUSE we got on beyond the shagging.

Two I saw off the clock (one frequently and still do) because we get on and I find that makes the sex better.

Is that EAS? No, it means I like some folks much more than others and sometimes that is reciprocated. No stalking, no fantasies, just a human connection.

Is this wrong?

Yeah I appreciate what you're saying. It's not necessarily the EAS that's the problem but the way certain punters deal with it. It's all about setting boundaries for yourself and the WG.

[JohnnyPark]

This whole discussion is depressingly polarised.

I have been punting for 30 years and cannot recall how many WGs I have seen in that time all over the country. In that time I have seen 3 who I chose to see regularly. Why? I liked them and we got on and found some common ground.

Those three became regulars and favourites BECAUSE we got on beyond the shagging.

Two I saw off the clock (one frequently and still do) because we get on and I find that makes the sex better.

Is that EAS? No, it means I like some folks much more than others and sometimes that is reciprocated. No stalking, no fantasies, just a human connection.

Is this wrong?

Well said. I agree with you. I just want to see this girl off the clock because we have a good connection and enjoy each others company. However it is all up to her

[BlueRock]

In reply to my last post.
She mentions run of the mill local attractions.
Her profile is still active but not for escorting she has stopped work for family reasons as she told me.
She is nice to chat to and like I said there is no hounding me to visit her its just chat with an occasional mention of a local attraction. Its been months so I suspect if it was business related she'd of given up by now.

[bigmanbigman]

Its your life
Lets be friends may work but
A woman's mind ?
Who knows .

[pking_paul]

It is often called "GFE" and it takes both sides to make it that.

You act out like you are a couple during the time you are together. But you know that:

1. She won't see you unless you pay her
2. She has other men paying to see her too
3. You are also free to see other women whenever you like.
4. You call her when you want a date, she doesn't call you.
5. You're paying so it's mostly about what you want, not what she wants.

Bloody hell what a thread, can't claim to have read it all but just to say that:

1 - I've had free sessions from WGs but know its just good sales technique for a regular so as to keep them happy. No problem with that.

4 - One of the above was the result of a text to me and she clarified that she had retired but fancied some company and fun with no strings. So my theory for 1 didn't work out there as I never saw her again after that.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

I'm still totally bewildered that there are people here not only confessing to obvious head over heels EAS but also trying to intellectually justify it as though it just happens to be a friendship that developed or whatever. Think back to the first time you ever met -

1) You didn't just bump in to her in a coffee shop and get talking. You went to pay her for sex.

2) She didnt just bump in to you in a coffee shop and get talking. Before you approached the door she was experiencing all the usual nerves about who you'd be, if you'd rob her or push boundaries in the booking etc. She then took money off you, then a total stranger, for sex.

Both of the above create a huge extra layer of difficulties and problems in relation to any 'friendship' developing, before you've ever even met. I'm not saying it can't happen because of course it can, punters and WGs can be friends, can even get together as partners - I've had free social sessions with WGS before but part of me always knew that it wasn't 'normal' because of how we first met.

The ultimate acid tests for this remain - a) Ask her to spend time with you for free, or even out of her wallet, see how far that gets you and b) would she be 'happy' if she knew that in your EAS-blinkered state, you were robbing her of business by refusing to share who she was with others on here because you don't want to contribute to the horror of others seeing your beloved? I strongly suspect she'd be pissed off at the loss of business haha.

[Brazilian Martian]

I'm still totally bewildered that there are people here not only confessing to obvious head over heels EAS but also trying to intellectually justify it as though it just happens to be a friendship that developed or whatever. Think back to the first time you ever met -

1) You didn't just bump in to her in a coffee shop and get talking. You went to pay her for sex.

2) She didnt just bump in to you in a coffee shop and get talking. Before you approached the door she was experiencing all the usual nerves about who you'd be, if you'd rob her or push boundaries in the booking etc. She then took money off you, then a total stranger, for sex.

Both of the above create a huge extra layer of difficulties and problems in relation to any 'friendship' developing, before you've ever even met. I'm not saying it can't happen because of course it can, punters and WGs can be friends, can even get together as partners - I've had free social sessions with WGS before but part of me always knew that it wasn't 'normal' because of how we first met.

The ultimate acid tests for this remain - a) Ask her to spend time with you for free, or even out of her wallet, see how far that gets you and b) would she be 'happy' if she knew that in your EAS-blinkered state, you were robbing her of business by refusing to share who she was with others on here because you don't want to contribute to the horror of others seeing your beloved? I strongly suspect she'd be pissed off at the loss of business haha.

Great post!!!  these guys that are making declarations about there EAS, when it goes wrong please dnt bombard this forum with your problems or ask for advice as you are all mugs of the highest order.

[hsn23]

You can try and be as cold as you want about it but you are still essentially sharing a very pleasurable experience with another human being. If you are sufficiently pleased and you get on conversationally then you're only naturally going to form a bond with that person. Which is not a bad thing in my books, makes the sex better. But it's all about setting boundaries imo.

[JohnnyPark]

I'm still totally bewildered that there are people here not only confessing to obvious head over heels EAS but also trying to intellectually justify it as though it just happens to be a friendship that developed or whatever. Think back to the first time you ever met -

1) You didn't just bump in to her in a coffee shop and get talking. You went to pay her for sex.

2) She didnt just bump in to you in a coffee shop and get talking. Before you approached the door she was experiencing all the usual nerves about who you'd be, if you'd rob her or push boundaries in the booking etc. She then took money off you, then a total stranger, for sex.

Both of the above create a huge extra layer of difficulties and problems in relation to any 'friendship' developing, before you've ever even met. I'm not saying it can't happen because of course it can, punters and WGs can be friends, can even get together as partners - I've had free social sessions with WGS before but part of me always knew that it wasn't 'normal' because of how we first met.

The ultimate acid tests for this remain - a) Ask her to spend time with you for free, or even out of her wallet, see how far that gets you and b) would she be 'happy' if she knew that in your EAS-blinkered state, you were robbing her of business by refusing to share who she was with others on here because you don't want to contribute to the horror of others seeing your beloved? I strongly suspect she'd be pissed off at the loss of business haha.

[OakTree]

Great post!!!  these guys that are making declarations about there EAS, when it goes wrong please dnt bombard this forum with your problems or ask for advice as you are all mugs of the highest order.

Totally agree.

There's a few who've posted in this thread who I strongly suspect use the process of paying for sex as a foot in the door to purposely try and form a relationship. It stikes me as odd that some seem to have had EAS with numerous WGs.