Russell Brand

[daviemac]

they will be insured if they have any sense

Not sure how they can insure against a celebratory falling out of public favour?   

All they can do in a situation like that is disassociate themselves with them and be seen to be doing what the majority of the public think is right.

[webpunter]

So how do you insure your share price losses 🤷‍♂️

A company could short their shares
Knowing that bad news about to break & the share price about to nose dive
Tho the regulators could take a dim view on this
Insider trading of sorts
& brokers shorting the shares could come under scrutiny as visible in the market

[webpunter]

All they can do in a situation like that is disassociate themselves with them and be seen to be doing what the majority of the public think is right.

Which is exactly what is happening
Not that Brand has any sponsors, that i'm aware of
YouTube income stream closed  & BBC iPlayer content removed *, dropped by his agent & others associated with him
* dont think C4 need to bother on their streaming service as its shite difficult to use & hardly anyone watches it

[akauya]

Men are under attack, they have been for years.  The feminist movement talk about ‘toxic masculinity’ and try to take down the likes of Andrew Tate and try to push men to be more feminine and support the feminist movement.   

Imho there are two types of men who really believe that "men are under attack."

The ones with a very low self esteem/insecurities/fragile egos and the misogynists who can't stand the idea of women becoming assertive and demanding equal treatment. Some men are even those two types combined into one. I would class Tate as being the two in one.

[chrishornx]

So how do you insure your share price losses 🤷‍♂️

share price losses are purely on paper and for a company with a turnover $282bn the change in share price for an incident like Brand will at best be trivial and short lived and not worth bothering about to a company like Alphabet

 I was referring more to any costs involved that Youtube may have invested for future promotions or projects involving Brand which would/could be insured

in reality all that You tube has done is cut off Brand's ability to earn income from his posts, reckoned to be worth £1m a year to him. Youtube are still running his  videos and not stopped him posting so actually their earnings will increase

to think  a £1m loss of income is going to affect a company the size of Alphabet would be wrong. 

[chrishornx]

Not sure how they can insure against a celebratory falling out of public favour?   

yes they certainly can

done all the time these times, more and more

have a look at the following

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[webpunter]

Brand does have public support
Elon Musk, Andrew Tate & Tucker Carlson
This trio says it all !

Even Brand must have been thinking WTF is Tate doing supporting me ?
Now i really am fcuked
Tho he could go visit him in Romania for some R&R

[webpunter]

£2bn for a shag [or three]
External Link/Members Only
Looney tunes @ BP
£2bn wiped off the market capitlization
Even the FTSE100 took a dip
Albeit both have recovered 

[David1970]

But it is men in particular who are under attack in this society.
Any one of us are open to accusations in which, in this society, the woman without any evidence would be believed.

What evidence do you have that men are under attack?

64% of MPs are Male
91% of CEO are Male
70% of High Court Judges are Male

What evidence do you have that that false accusation by Females are believed?
1% of reported rapes lead to a conviction
External Link/Members Only

[chrishornx]

Not sure how they can insure against a celebratory falling out of public favour?   

All they can do in a situation like that is disassociate themselves with them and be seen to be doing what the majority of the public think is right.

a classic example is  the sexual assault allegations against Kevin Spacey, In November2017 all of his footage from All the Money in the World was excised, and Christopher Plummer would replace him. The reshoots ended up costing $10 million. It was insured

[kuck]

What evidence do you have that men are under attack?

64% of MPs are Male
91% of CEO are Male
70% of High Court Judges are Male

What evidence do you have that that false accusation by Females are believed?
1% of reported rapes lead to a conviction
External Link/Members Only

My working (conspiracy?) theory is that the likes of Tate, Peterson, Trump et al. have monetised victimhood.

They offer compelling scapegoats for why your life is miserable - the woke, the trans, the gay, MSM, BBC, global warming, vaccines, women, the enlightenment, liberal elite, scientists, muslims, immigrants  ... and so on ...

They make you feel you're a victim without much compelling evidence. You feel like a victim, then get suckered deeper into their eco system. Before you know it, you're wearing a silly animal outfit and trying to overthrow a government

[lillythesavage]

If a 16 year old comes marching in to your boss and says you had sex with them, are you happy to be fired and have all ability to earn money taken away?

What if some of the escorts you left negative reviews for, decide that any activities between you and them were non consensual, and they make an allegation against you? Are you happy for your income streams to be cut?

Your analogies are getting more ridiculous, boring, improbable, desperate and damn right laughable,

To please your little mind  , lets say I fuck a 16 year old, too young to drive, but she finds my address, gets someone to drive her and follow me to work. Maybe an SP who has visited my house, been a few, will give her my address.
Well, she could end up in Inverness, Wrexham, Portsmouth. Dover, or anywhere in between  , bur lets assume I go to the farm, no longer a farm, but yards, full of scaffolders, car dealers, truck drivers, probably most of them punt, I know some do, and maybe my business partner is there, a 50.s divorced, East Ender with two girls on the go, and some time punter, it would be entertainment for the few that are there  .

Just how many punters on here have been accused of rape for leaving a negative review, from a women who has accepted cash for sex?
I am sure one of the long term record keepers will have the answer  .

Reality though, how many have had hassle from a negative review, and if they have it is replies on here or shitty text messages to a punting phone . Your analogy, even if I was employed, is thought up in desperation  If I was good at my job, and fucking a 16 year old is legal, if I have not paid her, Wtf could they do? When they stopped laughing 

Now FYI, the last 16 year old I fucked, I married, and the result is now 40 years old  . Yes I do punt with younger women, but here is a true tale for you.
I have a great SB thing going, it involves all sorts, including group sex, when I first met her, she had told me she was 23, I got the collywobbles  , I listened to her, she is very sexually mature, mature in other ways too, then I asked her for ID, she did not have it with her, so we arranged to meet again, she had lied, but I already knew that, as she came clean, she is 21.

Get a grip on reality, this twat has used power and money to abuse, probably, rarely smoke without fire, he should not be able to influence anyone else and get paid for it, it is a price you pay for fake fame, he was a nobody, made famous by shite TV, and those that watch it.

Goggle did not pull the plug, without pressure from those they make money from, we know they do not give a fuck about anything but money, it is the money that is cutting him off, and money talks.

His money is going to need to do a lot of talking 

[Jonestown]

Brand does have public support
Elon Musk, Andrew Tate & Tucker Carlson
This trio says it all !

That's the good news, the bad news is that Michael Barrymore has come out on his side, that could be the coupe de grace.

[bigden40]

a classic example is  the sexual assault allegations against Kevin Spacey, In November2017 all of his footage from All the Money in the World was excised, and Christopher Plummer would replace him. The reshoots ended up costing $10 million. It was insured

Interesting example.  Hasn’t Spacey now been cleared of these allegations?

[chrishornx]

Interesting example.  Hasn’t Spacey now been cleared of these allegations?

I am sure you know that he has been acquitted but the claim was still made

he was charged and that gave the company cause to pull the plug and use Plummer  they couldn't wait for ever he was questioned by police in 2019 not charged until 20022

Had the terms imposed by Insurers dictated that the company had to wait until the court case was settled there would still be  loss incurred even if not guilty. They suffered a loss so the claim was made

[webpunter]

Your analogies are getting more ridiculous, boring, improbable, desperate and damn right laughable,

+1, you missed off tedious
Surprised he hasn't been given some time off noting posts 'above'
In some senses he's worse than Boner on the hypersonics thread

Yes I do punt with younger women, but here is a true tale for you.
I have a great SB thing going, it involves all sorts, including group sex, when I first met her, she had told me she was 23, I got the collywobbles  , I listened to her, she is very sexually mature, mature in other ways too, then I asked her for ID, she did not have it with her, so we arranged to meet again, she had lied, but I already knew that, as she came clean, she is 21.

The right approach checking her age
There is a huge difference in terms of a persons maturity between 21 & 16
Like the grand canyon
& i'm presuming that as you arent famous [sorry] hence the relative power position differntial isn't huge

Get a grip on reality, this twat has used power and money to abuse, probably, rarely smoke without fire,

Very rarely
Especially when the fires have started in different places
One or two maybe [the latter at a push], not four [currently]
& commentary from those in the media industry [they'll have heard things & kept a lid on it until now]

[webpunter]

I'm imagining an interview

Q/ so Russell, when can you sleep with school girls ?

A/ at a quarter to four *

* allowing time for her to be wizzed round in a BBC paid for car
Someone in the BBC will have seen the invoices / trips & signed em off 
xxxx secondary school to chez Brand
Numerous times
What can possibly be wrong with this ? 

[jaydefo24]

So Channel4 and The Times are now exposing Brand and let’s be clear they are making money from this story,  they are making money from these women’s accusations.  Wouldn’t it have been better to take all this evidence ( and there is a lot of it ) to the police first, allow the police to investigate and bring him in for questioning under caution before making a TV show and newspaper articles?

The same media organisations that celebrated him being ‘Shagger Of The Year’ and felt it was a title worthy of him are now the same people that are calling for him to brought down.

. Spot on comment.

[akauya]

My working (conspiracy?) theory is that the likes of Tate, Peterson, Trump et al. have monetised victimhood.

They offer compelling scapegoats for why your life is miserable - the woke, the trans, the gay, MSM, BBC, global warming, vaccines, women, the enlightenment, liberal elite, scientists, muslims, immigrants  ... and so on ...

They make you feel you're a victim without much compelling evidence. You feel like a victim, then get suckered deeper into their eco system. Before you know it, you're wearing a silly animal outfit and trying to overthrow a government

100% agree with this.

[Private Parts]

Yup, tbh I can't argue with you there. I know how the world works and what you wrote is the reality of the western woke world right now, much as I disagree with it.

The western  world is not woke.
It’s characters like you who wish to describe common sense humanity, discretion and purpose as such.

[jackdaw]

I see the BBC are "investigating" whether they did in fact pay for taxis for 16 year Brand may have had a relationship with.

I'd be interested how you investigate that years after the event. And perhaps at same time BBC could tell us if its common practice for them to pay for taxis for people with nothing to do on their shows.

[Jonestown]

A run through of the matter so far by a barrister:-

External Link/Members Only

[bigden40]

My working (conspiracy?) theory is that the likes of Tate, Peterson, Trump et al. have monetised victimhood.

They offer compelling scapegoats for why your life is miserable - the woke, the trans, the gay, MSM, BBC, global warming, vaccines, women, the enlightenment, liberal elite, scientists, muslims, immigrants  ... and so on ...

They make you feel you're a victim without much compelling evidence. You feel like a victim, then get suckered deeper into their eco system. Before you know it, you're wearing a silly animal outfit and trying to overthrow a government

100% disagree with this.

IMO you're more describing the “left” which really promotes a victim mentality.  So called progressives want to treat people as victims because of the groups they belong to. 

I don’t see this behaviour in any of the names you mentioned. 

Peterson, in particular, is completely the opposite.  His material is largely about the importance of you taking control of your own life, stand up straight with your shoulders back, set your house in order before you criticise the world, etc.   I suspect you’ve not listened to or read any of it. 

This is also true, to an extent, of Tate who I wouldn’t  put remotely in the same category as JP.  Tate's message is mostly a positive one around fitness and making a success of yourself, although I’m far less convinced of his prescription as I find the message quite selfish.

Much as I dislike Trump I really don’t see how you can describe him as “monetising victimhood”.

[JontyR]

Much as I dislike Trump I really don’t see how you can describe him as “monetising victimhood”.

I think all of the merchandise he’s produced with his mug shot on is a pretty good recent example.

[bigden40]

I think all of the merchandise he’s produced with his mug shot on is a pretty good recent example.

Really? 

[Ali Katt]

Couple of  months ago, there was speculation that he shifted hard to the right  to build goodwill amongst them ashe gotwind that something like this was happening. He can now claim the "public " want  to silence his voice with these accusations that frankly has been round since 1999 at least. Dude was a proper perv esp in uni scenes

I don't know about hard right. More like the same sort of conspiracy bandwagon as people like Roseanne Barr, David Icke etc and I'm not saying everything they say is wrong, but there never seems to be substantial evidence, but of course they say it's "covered up".

[kuck]

100% disagree with this.

IMO you're more describing the “left” which really promotes a victim mentality.  So called progressives want to treat people as victims because of the groups they belong to. 

I don’t see this behaviour in any of the names you mentioned. 

Peterson, in particular, is completely the opposite.  His material is largely about the importance of you taking control of your own life, stand up straight with your shoulders back, set your house in order before you criticise the world, etc.   I suspect you’ve not listened to or read any of it. 

This is also true, to an extent, of Tate who I wouldn’t  put remotely in the same category as JP.  Tate's message is mostly a positive one around fitness and making a success of yourself, although I’m far less convinced of his prescription as I find the message quite selfish.

Much as I dislike Trump I really don’t see how you can describe him as “monetising victimhood”.

You are right, there's definitely some of the left that does it for minorities. It seems they want victims to remain victims so they can save them, or such. Some odd psychology at play.

You're talking about an earlier Peterson, who was actually quite good. I say good, but I was never really persuaded by his arguments. I thought he was really just a christian version of Deepak Chopra. In fact, if I pull out random quotes from either person it would be hard to guess who said it. (More recent Peterson quotes will be moaning about something, or some far right talking points.)
 
Then he got captured by his audience. I think this was around the time he started touring with the ultra grifter, Dave Rubin. Or perhaps after the time his Russian quack treatment for drug addiction left him with brain damage.

I think Tate is just the bad version of Peterson who has a bigger cock. I don't have the bandwidth or inclination to get deeper into Tate's "work".

If you allow "monetised" to be used as a Jungian/Petersonian archetype, perhaps you'll notice how Trump monetised victimhood.

[Ali Katt]

100% disagree with this.

IMO you're more describing the “left” which really promotes a victim mentality.  So called progressives want to treat people as victims because of the groups they belong to. 

I don’t see this behaviour in any of the names you mentioned. 

Peterson, in particular, is completely the opposite.  His material is largely about the importance of you taking control of your own life, stand up straight with your shoulders back, set your house in order before you criticise the world, etc.   I suspect you’ve not listened to or read any of it. 

This is also true, to an extent, of Tate who I wouldn’t  put remotely in the same category as JP.  Tate's message is mostly a positive one around fitness and making a success of yourself, although I’m far less convinced of his prescription as I find the message quite selfish.

Much as I dislike Trump I really don’t see how you can describe him as “monetising victimhood”.

I think Peterson seems the most informed, but I think the names mentioned largely appeal to a certain demographic of teenage and early 20 year old men. Trump being the exception as he isn't really pushing ideology the same in terms of two hour "talk" videos.

The solution to their problems is far simpler, stop watching these long videos and arguing with "pillers" and actually start talking to women.

As strange as it sounds I don't think we have a left and right anymore just different subgroups. Look who got kicked out of the lefty club for saying stuff about trans people? Or the righty club if they are seen as being too woke or a turncoat like Boris. It's all just sad fuckers with too much time on their hands. Most people don't give a shit about whose the most left or right if they work full time and have relationships. We had all this shit with music, who was keeping it real. It's juvenile.

[Ali Katt]

Also forgot to add with Tate's wealth and fitness, fair play he did it off his own back. Although the real interesting question isn't whether he did a rape, but whether his casinos are legal; Romanian gambling is a lot less restricted than the UK or USA. To me it seems like posing for attention to teenage boys, pictures with supercars, attractive women etc - it's all just a cry for attention.

[MLawro93]

Imho there are two types of men who really believe that "men are under attack."

The ones with a very low self esteem/insecurities/fragile egos and the misogynists who can't stand the idea of women becoming assertive and demanding equal treatment. Some men are even those two types combined into one. I would class Tate as being the two in one.

Pretty much bang on. I wish we could get this message across everywhere, but some people just like being delusional.

[bigden40]

Thought this was interesting.

The Culture Secretary wrote to Rumble to ask for Brand to be demonetised.

Rumble have told her very publicly to fuck off. 

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[PepeMAGA]

Thought this was interesting.

The Culture Secretary wrote to Rumble to ask for Brand to be demonetised.

Rumble have told her very publicly to fuck off. 

External Link/Members Only

Was just about to post that. Good on Rumble, interesting the things that government are willing to stick their noses into.

[kuck]

Thought this was interesting.

The Culture Secretary wrote to Rumble to ask for Brand to be demonetised.

Rumble have told her very publicly to fuck off. 

External Link/Members Only

Too corporate a reply, would have been so much fun if they just asked them to fuck off. Pirate bay style
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[Jonestown]

Thought this was interesting.

The Culture Secretary wrote to Rumble to ask for Brand to be demonetised.

Rumble have told her very publicly to fuck off. 

External Link/Members Only

Wow, that's a fairly strong indication for it being a stitch up.

The whisper is that the next name on the hit list (that doesn't exist) is Neil Oliver.

[mills_and_bhuna]

Was just about to post that. Good on Rumble, interesting the things that government are willing to stick their noses into.

We knew that was going on already.
The Twitter Files proved it.
Interesting that Rumble constantly gets attacked by the mainstream as being full of Right-wing extremists .
Not even sure what Right and Left means nowadays.
I consider myself left-wing as I regard both main parties as full of Establishment protecting, Corporate friendly, Imperialist , Warmongering phoneys.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered that being anti-war and anti-censorship and a little cautious about condoning people with cocks and beards being granted access to women's changing rooms that I'm actually a fascist.

[Colston36]

What evidence do you have that men are under attack?

64% of MPs are Male
91% of CEO are Male
70% of High Court Judges are Male

What evidence do you have that that false accusation by Females are believed?
1% of reported rapes lead to a conviction
External Link/Members Only

Very good points.

[DastardlyDick]

Too corporate a reply, would have been so much fun if they just asked them to fuck off. Pirate bay style
Hidden Image/Members Only

I still like "I refer you to the answer given in Arkell vs Pressdram"

[willie loman]

I see the BBC are "investigating" whether they did in fact pay for taxis for 16 year Brand may have had a relationship with.

I'd be interested how you investigate that years after the event. And perhaps at same time BBC could tell us if its common practice for them to pay for taxis for people with nothing to do on their shows.

their accounts will find that in a few seconds, it will all be logged, and itemised.

[Colston36]

It’s been fairly widely reported he had sex with 14/15 year old girls.

Where?

Anyhow as to the glories of the press, 53 years ago a product I was selling was described as unsafe and my business collapsed. I was able to discover that the tests on which their article was based had been rigged. When I spoke to an eminent lawyer for advice he asked how much money I had - and of course I had very little by then. He said, "Well these newspaper fellows have very deep pockets, you know."

[PMAC123]

What evidence do you have that men are under attack?

64% of MPs are Male
91% of CEO are Male
70% of High Court Judges are Male

What evidence do you have that that false accusation by Females are believed?
1% of reported rapes lead to a conviction
External Link/Members Only

The type of person that would make that statement doesn't believe in evidence lol, I wouldn't bother with the logic

It's a poor attempt to be seen as a victim in a world where that couldn't be further from the truth

[kuck]

I still like "I refer you to the answer given in Arkell vs Pressdram"

Haha yea had forgotten about that one

[catweazle]

I still like "I refer you to the answer given in Arkell vs Pressdram"

My favourite, too. Used it a few times as well.

[badsin]

Wow, that's a fairly strong indication for it being a stitch up.

The whisper is that the next name on the hit list (that doesn't exist) is Neil Oliver.

Haha, if Neil Oliver is on 'the list '..... then there is something seriously wrong with the world 

[mills_and_bhuna]

Haha, if Neil Oliver is on 'the list '..... then there is something seriously wrong with the world 

There is. You haven't noticed?

[badsin]

There is. You haven't noticed?

Links please, I don't watch GB news, so not aware of what he discusses 

[webpunter]

Links please, I don't watch GB news, so not aware of what he discusses 

Thats it you've opened up the flood gates
[have a look on hypersonics]
Requesting stuff from Boner
He'll be sporting one thats for sure so excited with your post, usually most UKPers ignore him
Prepare for the tidal wave of bollox 

[timsussex]

Haha, if Neil Oliver is on 'the list '..... then there is something seriously wrong with the world 

Apparently he has quit the Scottish Royal Society because he thinks climate change isnt mainly man made and he compares the Covid vaccination campaign to the Nazis propaganda campaign in 1941 blaming the Jews for the spread of Typhus.

He was only asked to join in 2020, hasnt contributed anything to meetings  and resigned earlier this year before he was pushed !

[RedKettle]

Thats it you've opened up the flood gates
[have a look on hypersonics]
Requesting stuff from Boner
He'll be sporting one thats for sure so excited with your post, usually most UKPers ignore him
Prepare for the tidal wave of bollox 

oh fuck this will be another thread swamped and almost unreadable.

[PepeMAGA]

We knew that was going on already.
The Twitter Files proved it.
Interesting that Rumble constantly gets attacked by the mainstream as being full of Right-wing extremists .
Not even sure what Right and Left means nowadays.
I consider myself left-wing as I regard both main parties as full of Establishment protecting, Corporate friendly, Imperialist , Warmongering phoneys.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered that being anti-war and anti-censorship and a little cautious about condoning people with cocks and beards being granted access to women's changing rooms that I'm actually a fascist.

(Self removed, forgot it's not the politics thread)

[kuck]

Oh bollocks, Soros's list got leaked?
Not good. He should have just used his space lasers instead of hiring actors to appear in inane documentaries.

(Is it still Soros with kids these days, or is it the WEF?  )