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Would you prefer I compared Brand to the late Queen's third born?
Maybe Dinenage can write on official Commons stationery funded by the taxpayer to his big brother asking him to cut off his funding of his errant sibling for his past friendship with a convicted child trafficker?
Will it happen?
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Stick to the subject of this thread, you've posted enough political bullshit.


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Stick to the subject of this thread, you've posted enough political bullshit.
I stand chastened. And apologise to all.
But sometimes………

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I stand chastened. And apologise to all.
But sometimes………

Actions speak louder than words, please dont encourage Boner
If you fall under his spell you could become his new bestie
Beware coz his last disciple got banned  :lol:
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Seems the Attorney-General, Victoria Prentis has written to newspapers and media editors warning them about their coverage of the Brand accusations and contempt of court laws, strange state of affairs seeing as these laws don't become applicable until the courts are actually involved, ie after someone has been interviewed / arrested / charged. Is this an attempt by the state to muzzle the media ?

A barrister suggests we are in new territory , new waters with the government letters on the Brand matter.

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It must have been nice to visit St Petersburg a few years back — though personally I would like to have visited rather more beautiful places than Rasputin histories. I guess many find them fascinating though!

I saw a great deal in St P, not just the Yusupov Palace.  I went to Tsarskoyoe Selo to the Catherine Palace ( home to the reconstructed Amber Room), the Hermitage Museum, tvarious amazing churches ( including the one with the tombs of the Tsars), sailed down the canals and waterways of the Neva River.......glorious place.

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I saw a great deal in St P, not just the Yusupov Palace.  I went to Tsarskoyoe Selo to the Catherine Palace ( home to the reconstructed Amber Room), the Hermitage Museum, tvarious amazing churches ( including the one with the tombs of the Tsars), sailed down the canals and waterways of the Neva River.......glorious place.

It sounds a very interesting place. The reconstructed Amber Room looks amazing. I'll have a look around on Streetview.  :thumbsup:

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I saw a great deal in St P, not just the Yusupov Palace.  I went to Tsarskoyoe Selo to the Catherine Palace ( home to the reconstructed Amber Room), the Hermitage Museum, tvarious amazing churches ( including the one with the tombs of the Tsars), sailed down the canals and waterways of the Neva River.......glorious place.

I was getting all set to go, Lonely Planets et all prepped, trying to decide whether do part by boat to get there, then Ukraine broke out and it doesn’t seem such a good idea in the present situation.

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It sounds a very interesting place. The reconstructed Amber Room looks amazing. I'll have a look around on Streetview.  :thumbsup:

Firstly, before I get scolded for taking the topic off its original focus, my apologies to the Mods.

I came across  an offer online to do a Northern Cities cruise, with no single supplement,  at a price too good to miss ( it was leaving in 5 days time). I managed to visit Amsterdam, Copenhagen,  Tallinn, St Petersburg ( 2 days), Berlin, Stockholm and Helsinki ( as well as Skagen in North Denmark  , which isn't really a city)
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Firstly, before I get scolded for taking the topic off its original focus, my apologies to the Mods.

I came across  an offer online to do a Northern Cities cruise, with no single supplement,  at a price too good to miss ( it was leaving in 5 days time). I managed to visit Amsterdam, Copenhagen,  Tallinn, St Petersburg ( 2 days), Berlin, Stockholm and Helsinki ( as well as Skagen in North Denmark  , which isn't really a city)

Sounds lovely. (Apologies to mods seconded). How much did you snag the cruise for?

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Sounds lovely. (Apologies to mods seconded). How much did you snag the cruise for?

I had to look back through my bank  statements, and finally found it.   It was £564. I did have to arrange flights  to/from Amsterdam (£157) and I added the drink package onto the cruise for £370, premium unlimited drinks.

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I had to look back through my bank  statements, and finally found it.   It was £564. I did have to arrange flights  to/from Amsterdam (£157) and I added the drink package onto the cruise for £370, premium unlimited drinks.

Blimey! That was awesome!  :thumbsup:

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I added the drink package onto the cruise for £370, premium unlimited drinks.

Was RB doing the entertainment on the cruise [to supplement his reducing TV work] ?

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what does that drink package work out per day?

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What the F*ck has the previous posts got to do with Russell Brand?

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What the F*ck has the previous posts got to do with Russell Brand?

Exactly
I was taking the piss [TTP]
In one sense, off piste

Tho it is the case that Brand's TV work has dried up since 2018-19
When it came to the attention of those in the media as to his activities / MO
They couldn't accuse him / mention worried about litigation & how they would look
So binning him out is the next best thing 

Edit:  @WL might have been TTP too.  Served xtra dry.  Quality  :thumbsup:
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Talking of people twats who disappeared from our screens David Walliams is suing the producers behind Britains got talent for the Data protection breach which leaked his off camera comments on contestants
He was recorded calling a pensioner a “c***” and saying that another woman “is like the slightly boring girl you meet in the pub that thinks you want to f*** them, but you don’t”

Most people think he is mad to stir up that shit again but apparently he is desperate to get back on TV

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Talking of people twats who disappeared from our screens David Walliams is suing the producers behind Britains got talent for the Data protection breach which leaked his off camera comments on contestants
He was recorded calling a pensioner a “c***” and saying that another woman “is like the slightly boring girl you meet in the pub that thinks you want to f*** them, but you don’t”

Most people think he is mad to stir up that shit again but apparently he is desperate to get back on TV

Mad ?
Insane
I wasn't even aware of it, until now
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, he's blown it off
Not quite the national treasure that he was / is aspiring to be
Timing is everything, he could have let the dust settle on Randy Brandy [RB]
Leave things until next year, move on from the year which is RB Phil & Huw, build from there
The diva just cant help himself
Good luck in Court  :rolleyes:
I do like leaks like this, it shows what people are actually like

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I do like leaks like this, it shows what people are actually like

But Little Britain was funny wasn’t it?

Probably getting banned now …

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But Little Britain was funny wasn’t it?

Probably getting banned now …
The Ting Tong sketch and Walliams blacking up have indeed been removed from iPlayer.

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The Ting Tong sketch and Walliams blacking up have indeed been removed from iPlayer.

What about the Emily Howard sketches?

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How him & Matt Lucas kept a straight face i have no idea
They must have had to do a few takes, getting the giggles

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The Ting Tong sketch and Walliams blacking up have indeed been removed from iPlayer.

The moral (rather than legal) point is surely whether it is culturally harmful. Something that’s very hard to judge.

Ricky Gervais in his stand-up shows has a sophisticated way of self-exposing all his edgy jokes as containing content he doesn’t agree with in real life and makes the audience feel guilty for laughing at them. Re-working Little Britain to such an extent would be incredibly hard work, but it was acceptable at the time and delighted thousands — people who on the whole did not suddenly become racist on account of it. (The same might be said for the Black & White Minstrel Show adored by many of our parents in their day without feelings of racism).

Educated people on the whole are not racist. They realise it is bad taste to use the n word or even the nk abbreviation when ordering Chinese food. These things mostly become harmful when used routinely and unthinkingly by many of the lower classes.

I say ‘lower classes’ intentionally, not to suggest a person in the upper or middle class is ‘better’ but simply as an observation of cultural difference in a sort of anthropological way. Classes exist, irrespective of whether they ‘should’. One cannot expect a school-drop-out to speak like an Oxbridge man. Won’t happen. But English etiquette evolved (from Victorian times if I’m right) as a means of keeping the lower classes in check and for the upper classes stay in control by what they said and how they acted, without engaging in violence of words or actions (which are the mainstay of much of the lower classes).

These days it is harder to tell. Reese-Mogg, love him or hate him, is upper class. Dan Wootton is lower class but with money. Quite a disgusting state of affairs.

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Talking of people twats who disappeared from our screens David Walliams is suing the producers behind Britains got talent for the Data protection breach which leaked his off camera comments on contestants
He was recorded calling a pensioner a “c***” and saying that another woman “is like the slightly boring girl you meet in the pub that thinks you want to f*** them, but you don’t”

Most people think he is mad to stir up that shit again but apparently he is desperate to get back on TV
I don't really get what the premise is with the guy. Is he supposed to be a straight man, playing a gay character when he's doing entertainment jobs? Mean that as a serious question. He seems to only date women, but only makes flirty comments with men on bgt etc

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Talking of people twats who disappeared from our screens David Walliams is suing the producers behind Britains got talent for the Data protection breach which leaked his off camera comments on contestants
He was recorded calling a pensioner a “c***” and saying that another woman “is like the slightly boring girl you meet in the pub that thinks you want to f*** them, but you don’t”

Most people think he is mad to stir up that shit again but apparently he is desperate to get back on TV

Well presumably he didn’t leak the videos in the first place but Cowell and co can rightly claim he should have known backstage stuff was recorded.

Yet they need a comedian on the panel. Cowell is the centrepiece, Holden and the ex-Strictly woman are just there for a bit of glamour (if I’m PC) and soothing words — they add nothing. Wallians was a loose cannon and should know he has to draw a line between his comedy and off-the-cuff remarks. Walliams was popular. That’s hard shoes to fill. It’ll probably be settled out of court.

I doubt Gervais would go on the show and a bit too cutting anyway. Katherine Ryan might. She could be more entertaining than Holden. X-fac/BGT were the first ‘talent’ shows where it’s not about the talent. The show is about the judges.

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I don't really get what the premise is with the guy. Is he supposed to be a straight man, playing a gay character when he's doing entertainment jobs? Mean that as a serious question. He seems to only date women, but only makes flirty comments with men on bgt etc
Not exactly Larry Grayson or Duncan Norville is he?

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I don't really get what the premise is with the guy. Is he supposed to be a straight man, playing a gay character when he's doing entertainment jobs? Mean that as a serious question. He seems to only date women, but only makes flirty comments with men on bgt etc
Don't take this the wrong way but who actually gives a shit?
I think he just does it to wind people up. And to keep people guessing. It clearly works.

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Probably the best thread for this as i believe this issue was mentioned in an earlier post but NI have just changed their law to provide anonymity to sex offender suspects until they are charged

I've long said people shouldn't be named as it makes them a target and if they are then found innocent there will still be enough people who think they got away with it, sling enough mud and some sticks.
There was the case not so long ago in Cumbria where a girl invented multiple stories about being abused, she was eventually jailed but not before the wrongly accused men were attacked and their lives were made hell  :thumbsdown:

The downside to this of course is that if the person is guilty then other victims won't come forward as a result of hearing about the other cases and it still won't stop shit being posted on social media and the subsequent trial by social media 

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Probably the best thread for this as i believe this issue was mentioned in an earlier post but NI have just changed their law to provide anonymity to sex offender suspects until they are charged

I've long said people shouldn't be named as it makes them a target and if they are then found innocent there will still be enough people who think they got away with it, sling enough mud and some sticks.
There was the case not so long ago in Cumbria where a girl invented multiple stories about being abused, she was eventually jailed but not before the wrongly accused men were attacked and their lives were made hell  :thumbsdown:

The downside to this of course is that if the person is guilty then other victims won't come forward as a result of hearing about the other cases and it still won't stop shit being posted on social media and the subsequent trial by social media 

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It’s an incredibly difficult area. We have cases where Channel4 or similar does an investigation responsibly and turns material over to the police and police didn’t act quickly enough for fear of being called racist. Obviously it was people coming out against Weinstein that brought about prosecution — but others were wrongly castigated. Panorama seems ready to go after someone else maybe on Monday according to reports. Netflix have a fairly believable thriller out just now called Accused where social media wrongly accuse someone (of being a terrorist) and right wing militants go after him.

What I find lamentable is that Brand has been almost headline news for several days. Not just the DM. Gratuitous sleaze about a public figure. Everything in bite-size attention-grab helpings instead of News affecting the country. It’s dirt-digging season. Then it’s Dan Wooton in headlines for laughing inappropriately. Both things that are of concern, just not of national concern.

No rational discussion on immigration.
Not a peep on drugs (laughing gas is to be made illegal while Scotland is making legal houses for really dangerous drugs).
No even-sided discussion about the ongoing impact of Ukraine.

Instead the nation is glued to phone and tv screens in fevered anticipation to see if a celebrity broke the law and to see what happens to someone who laughed inappropriately.

You couldn’t make it up.

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It’s an incredibly difficult area. We have cases where Channel4 or similar does an investigation responsibly and turns material over to the police and police didn’t act quickly enough for fear of being called racist. Obviously it was people coming out against Weinstein that brought about prosecution — but others were wrongly castigated. Panorama seems ready to go after someone else maybe on Monday according to reports. Netflix have a fairly believable thriller out just now called Accused where social media wrongly accuse someone (of being a terrorist) and right wing militants go after him.

What I find lamentable is that Brand has been almost headline news for several days. Not just the DM. Gratuitous sleaze about a public figure. Everything in bite-size attention-grab helpings instead of News affecting the country. It’s dirt-digging season. Then it’s Dan Wooton in headlines for laughing inappropriately. Both things that are of concern, just not of national concern.

No rational discussion on immigration.
Not a peep on drugs (laughing gas is to be made illegal while Scotland is making legal houses for really dangerous drugs).
No even-sided discussion about the ongoing impact of Ukraine.

Instead the nation is glued to phone and tv screens in fevered anticipation to see if a celebrity broke the law and to see what happens to someone who laughed inappropriately.

You couldn’t make it up.

+1, 100%.

The TV news channels worse than the newspapers which is saying something. Last night I couldn't believe the prominence being given by both the BBC and Sky to the GBN episode. Turned over to the Euronews channel for a more serious and balanced view of world happenings.

Is this obsession with unimportant tittle-tattle really what the public want ? - I fear it is. Also, is the picture as bad in other Western countries ? In the past my impression was that news treatment was rather more grown-up abroad but my globe-trotting days are long past so I am in no position to judge.

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+1, 100%.

The TV news channels worse than the newspapers which is saying something. Last night I couldn't believe the prominence being given by both the BBC and Sky to the GBN episode. Turned over to the Euronews channel for a more serious and balanced view of world happenings.

Is this obsession with unimportant tittle-tattle really what the public want ? - I fear it is. Also, is the picture as bad in other Western countries ? In the past my impression was that news treatment was rather more grown-up abroad but my globe-trotting days are long past so I am in no position to judge.

People need to wake up and stop being children. You are adults. Can't you see the news is not there to inform, it is there to control you. It is there to distract you from the serious topics you mentioned.
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Probably the best thread for this as i believe this issue was mentioned in an earlier post but NI have just changed their law to provide anonymity to sex offender suspects until they are charged

I've long said people shouldn't be named as it makes them a target and if they are then found innocent there will still be enough people who think they got away with it, sling enough mud and some sticks.
There was the case not so long ago in Cumbria where a girl invented multiple stories about being abused, she was eventually jailed but not before the wrongly accused men were attacked and their lives were made hell  :thumbsdown:

The downside to this of course is that if the person is guilty then other victims won't come forward as a result of hearing about the other cases and it still won't stop shit being posted on social media and the subsequent trial by social media 

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How that is a really good change. It should be rolled out to the rest of the UK.
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People need to wake up and stop being children. You are adults. Can't you see the news is not there to inform, it is there to control you. It is there to distract you from the serious topics you mentioned.
Exactly.
And additionally why the need for Ofcom and why does no one seem to have a problem with the existence of this body?

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Interesting how not one of the usual suspects seem to see this as suspiciously timed and coordinated.
The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.
That UK government spokesperson being married to someone high up in the 77th Brigade (the censorship arm of the armed forces).
This is fascism writ large.
Due process out the window.
Trial by Corporate media.
And these same people will accuse Russell Brand of 'spouting right wing talking points'.
Proof that some idiots will accept tyranny as long as its their team doing it

The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.

When? And how? What proof?

What are "corporate" media? All significant media are owned by companies.

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The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.

When? And how? What proof?

What are "corporate" media? All significant media are owned by companies.

Have a look at the politics & hypersonics threads
Boner is all but ignored
& on ignore
Hence why he's migrated to Brand
Catching out unsuspecting UKPers not familiar with his relentless drivel

Best not to get him going
It'll be never ending
You've let the genie out of the bottle  :rolleyes:
Good luck trying to get it back in !

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Have a look at the politics & hypersonics threads
Boner is all but ignored
& on ignore
Hence why he's migrated to Brand
Catching out unsuspecting UKPers not familiar with his relentless drivel

Best not to get him going
It'll be never ending
You've let the genie out of the bottle  :rolleyes:
Good luck trying to get it back in !

100% agree.  Please don't quote him  either; those of ignoring  him end up seeing his one track drivel.

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The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.

When? And how? What proof?

What are "corporate" media? All significant media are owned by companies.
Reply #350 will also apply to you.

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The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.

When? And how? What proof?

What are "corporate" media? All significant media are owned by companies.
Rumble released the screenshot of the letter sent by Dinenage and the CEO's reply on their Twitter feed.
I think that constitutes proof.
There is a difference between a multinational media organisation like Reuters, AP, Newscast, Bloomberg and News International and an independent one like Grayzone or the like.
And what constitutes significant?
Does the Government, the EU, and the financial sector targetting you allow you to call yourself significant?

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Reply #350 will also apply to you.
I tried to delete my reply but something went awry.
Just a bit of explanation.
I'm trying I really am.
But it's difficult to avoid some kind of political discussion in this case.
None of us know the facts.
It's all speculation.
And a lot of it informed by previous opinion of Brand.
Anyway I'll stay off this particular thread from now on.

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Have a look at the politics & hypersonics threads
Boner is all but ignored
& on ignore
Hence why he's migrated to Brand
Catching out unsuspecting UKPers not familiar with his relentless drivel

Best not to get him going
It'll be never ending
You've let the genie out of the bottle  :rolleyes:
Good luck trying to get it back in !
I'm sure Colston hangs on your every word.

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+1, 100%.

The TV news channels worse than the newspapers which is saying something. Last night I couldn't believe the prominence being given by both the BBC and Sky to the GBN episode. Turned over to the Euronews channel for a more serious and balanced view of world happenings.

Is this obsession with unimportant tittle-tattle really what the public want ? - I fear it is. Also, is the picture as bad in other Western countries ? In the past my impression was that news treatment was rather more grown-up abroad but my globe-trotting days are long past so I am in no position to judge.
Well it must be serious if even the Daily Fail decide to terminate Dan Wootton's contract, like rats turning on each other  :drinks:

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I tried to delete my reply but something went awry.
Just a bit of explanation.
I'm trying I really am.
But it's difficult to avoid some kind of political discussion in this case.
* You truly are!

Your reply #390 shows you have totally ignored the warning and it isn't difficult to keep away from politics, most posters manage it.

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As others have pointed out Brand is a creep and a twat. That doesn't make him guilty of rape.
Women increasingly use the coercion and control argument now at the drop of a hat to describe anything they don't like. In this regard, women are the same as men: ruthless vindictive buggers who use whatever tools are available to get their pound of flesh.
Retrospectively deciding that a sexual act was rape because you've looked back at it and decided you didn't like it may not be rape. It may just be rewriting memories to suit how things are thought about now.
Having said that, some of the testimony indicates that what the obnoxious idiot was up to was much more than that and was not just subjectively a violation but objectively one too. Both factors should surely be present in any conviction for sexual assault and rape.

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As others have pointed out Brand is a creep and a twat. That doesn't make him guilty of rape.
Women increasingly use the coercion and control argument now at the drop of a hat to describe anything they don't like. In this regard, women are the same as men: ruthless vindictive buggers who use whatever tools are available to get their pound of flesh.
Retrospectively deciding that a sexual act was rape because you've looked back at it and decided you didn't like it may not be rape. It may just be rewriting memories to suit how things are thought about now.
Having said that, some of the testimony indicates that what the obnoxious idiot was up to was much more than that and was not just subjectively a violation but objectively one too. Both factors should surely be present in any conviction for sexual assault and rape.
Going off topic slightly, but I know a married couple that split up recently. She said he was controlling, it turned out she prioritised going out and getting drunk over taking care of her kids. I wasn't initially on his side and maybe he went the wrong way about but he's in the right on this. There's these buzzwords that circulate: controlling, coercive, abusive, predatory and our first thoughts are rapist and woman beater.

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I think what's interesting is just how much dumber the public has become and how much identitarian. I remember when the Clinton Lewinsky happened. Clinton is way worse than Brand when it comes to being accused of sexual offences.

Have you noticed when ever something like this happens it's seems to be a case of each side doing its own theories. Russell Brand has enemies that want to deplatform him, incel bollocks like women are evil or on the other Brand being considered some sort of modern day outlaw when he is a mediocre actor and comic who had sex with a lot of women. He lived the dream, IMO it's a shame he chose to do a subpar Douglas Murray routine for the whole gym bros above making it in America. I do respect him for getting off the drinks and drugs though as so many fail at that - Katy Perry being one.

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The bottom line is we maybe really don’t know yet if he will be charged and found guilty of anything.

He collected quite a few left wing fans when he delved into politics. As secret4u mentioned there’s an awful lot of vaguely-incriminating buzzwords doing the rounds (and the left do seem to like buzzwords lately). There was a case this week I think it was where a prominent sportsperson was charged with sexual harassment. Turned out he had called a waitress ‘pet’ and touched her elbow to get attention. She felt she was being sexually harassed but the court threw it out.

A few women seem to have neurotic fantasies where their minds turn innocent behaviour into imagined harassment, and harassment of a sexual nature. Basically similar to the chip-on-the-shoulder that convinces a minority of minorities that they are being discriminated against on account of their minority status when they’re basically just an accident waiting to happen.

The provocative nature of Brand’s persona might have included genuinely unacceptable acts or it might just have encouraged such ‘accidents’ among unhappy women. Perhaps the judiciary will decide (or not) before it provokes even more media frenzy.