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Offline Marmalade

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Marmalade mentioned in the film thread the movie Wrong turn 4. Crap film but I wanted to add.. the sex scenes were nice.
Trivia.. the girl having sex in the beginning was on Big brother. Good looking fit girl.

Over the years, ive seen and noticed many horror films  especially the B grade ones usually have a nice sex scene with a good looking actress.
Wrong turn 4 is a good example and wishmaster 4.
I wish I can remember the rest..I've seen so many but tend to forget names of the b grade horror films.

I know the feeling. Couple of all-nighters at a horror film festival and it's hard to remember the name of one that finished at 1am when getting a burger in the interval at 3am, much less a few months later.

I can sit through a Wrong Turn 4 knowing exactly what will be dished up even if it's not as polished as Last House on the Left or as cutting edge as a Hellraiser. No thinking cap necessary as with a Nightmare Alley. Just a side step from Chucky or Toxic Avenger. Stuff that's in a b-movie genre of its own. Gore and nudity just wash over the screen like a heavy metal alternative to Songs of Praise. I bet seeing an actress on Big Brother first might add to the enjoyment?

I can quite enjoy the tongue in cheek stuff as well, but some stuff I just find boring. The Loved Ones (limited top-half nudity) for instance, an Aussie comedy-horror but the story and editing is just not slick enough to make the popcorn enjoyable; and I felt Men was similarly a waste of space even if it was more professionally put together; but Sam Raimi's Drag Me To Hell is a classic for many horror fans.

It's nice to have a bit of uncensored gash but the story has to be enough to justify the length. Most lists of 'explicit' films are so vague. What's explicit? I near jumped out of my seat like everyone else at the end of Brown Bunny but was it worth wait? For me, I think we need a difference between men's cocks waving about (which doesn't interest me) and hot female characters getting realistic with their honey pots.

Importantly, the film should work at some level on its own merits I think, not just for the sex – otherwise the sex bits could probably be watched on hamster. Thirdly as some people have suggested, there's films that are unbelilevably hot even if the amount of explicitness was minimal (Basic Instinct) or the small degree of nudity made up for by a hot atmosphere (Eyes Wide Shut). Finally a separate category for ones that are explicit but not at all erotic (Anatomy of Hell) or too edgy or basically nasty for most tastes. I expect we'll all have different preferences, but an interesting thread.




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Game of thrones is a good shout, lots of nice scenes, episode 1 ending, doggy style on top of tower was nice and Emilia Clarke was lovely.
I mean margot Robbie and just random scenes in wolf of Wall st got me excited and there wasn't even any proper sex scenes.

There was this Canadian actress I liked back in the 90s  Shannon tweed. Body chemistry 4 had a good scene.

In the late 90s Channel 5 managed to sort its post launch flagging fortunes by programming loads of Shannon Tweed/Red Shoe Diaries type soft porn in the post pub slot on a Friday night. It was soft to the point of barely porn at all, women in CG with their bras on type stuff.

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What was great about post-pub Channel 5 soft porn was that it was so acceptable to have on and also on at all - you'd probably not put a porno on if you pulled when you went out but that was fine and made for handy conversation back at yours/hers parents'.

One sticks in my mind as it was quite removed from the usual tits and arse fare as it involved a plot of a man feigning injury to kidnap his neighbour, after which he and his mate fucked her etc. Quite edgy for TV and also because she didn't look particularly remarkable clothed but had a massive pair deceptively.

Bravo then got in on the act and routinely screened UK sex comedies and Euro softish porn on Friday and Saturday nights, including the uncut 'Ups and Downs of a Handyman' (which featured one scene of copious eating out of a mother and daughter, hence the cuts).

Looking back, it's amazing what they did show back then, I remember being grossed out by Lauren Laverne amiably mocking a very weird bestiality flick one night on Channel 4 at 1am.

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I remember Eurotrash on channel 4 during the 90's always had a lot of titillating in it . The programme itself was completely bonkers mind. Trash was an apt description for it. Amazingly It ran from 1993 to 2016.
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Eurotrash on channel 4 was bizarre, I remember that huge tittied girl Lola. They showed a lot of erotic films from Europe late night at some point, can't recall names.
Thanks to channel 5, I became a fan of Shannon tweed after seeing Scorned and another movie where she gets fucked on a snooker table. They also showed the Pamela Anderson erotic films. I'd pay big too fuck Pamela at that age.
There was a erotic TV show called Compromising situations. That was pretty good.




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I remember Eurotrash on channel 4 during the 90's always had a lot of titillating in it . The programme itself was completely bonkers mind. Trash was an apt description for it. Amazingly It ran from 1993 to 2016.

I think 2016 was a one-off "nostalgia piece" as part of some sort of C4 birthday celebrations. It had definitely ended as a regular series many years earlier.

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What was great about post-pub Channel 5 soft porn was that it was so acceptable to have on and also on at all - you'd probably not put a porno on if you pulled when you went out but that was fine and made for handy conversation back at yours/hers parents'.

One sticks in my mind as it was quite removed from the usual tits and arse fare as it involved a plot of a man feigning injury to kidnap his neighbour, after which he and his mate fucked her etc. Quite edgy for TV and also because she didn't look particularly remarkable clothed but had a massive pair deceptively.

Bravo then got in on the act and routinely screened UK sex comedies and Euro softish porn on Friday and Saturday nights, including the uncut 'Ups and Downs of a Handyman' (which featured one scene of copious eating out of a mother and daughter, hence the cuts).

Looking back, it's amazing what they did show back then, I remember being grossed out by Lauren Laverne amiably mocking a very weird bestiality flick one night on Channel 4 at 1am.

I used to stay up late watching those softcore film, had my finger on the return channel button incase my parents walked in on me, sometimes I would hit return and pretend that I was asleep. :D

But yes it's mad thinking about how acceptable these movies were back then, you could never get away with that now. Even erotic thrillers like Fatal Attraction has died out.

I also miss the 90s/00s ladette culture, even Big Brother a breakfast show was quite racy at times and pushed some boundaries, used to love shows like Bits with Emily Booth. I wish this type of TV would come back but as seen with the recent G4TV incident too many prudish feminist liberals who can't have a bit of fun.



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I was do disappointed with nymphomaniac vol 1 and 2.
The movie still (below) kept me thinking it will be great but NO.
I've seen so many movies or TV shows with nymphomaniac.
I think there's diary of a nymphomaniac, confessions of a nymphomaniac...European one, .nothing memorable. Just the brazilian one (can't recall name) had a fit actress

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I mean I saw Jackie brown a few weeks ago..Nice sexual tension ruined by a comic sex scene (below)
Robert de Niro in ending of dirty grandpa is another hilarious sex scene.

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I was do disappointed with nymphomaniac vol 1 and 2.
The movie still (below) kept me thinking it will be great but NO.
I've seen so many movies or TV shows with nymphomaniac.
I think there's diary of a nymphomaniac, confessions of a nymphomaniac...European one, .nothing memorable. Just the brazilian one (can't recall name) had a fit actress

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I'm sure I read somewhere that they used CGI in a lot of the scenes

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Re Bangman: Similar. N1&2 was an ordeal to sit through. Saw it at the cinema so uncut but hardly any of the sex and nudity sexy. Director Triers does have a bit of an obsession with fucked up mental states though doesn’t he? I’m a bit of QT fan but Jackie Brown is the one movie of his I didn’t enjoy that much. Maybe I missed the point but I just found it a bit meh. He’s had some really sexy characters but not really done a sizzling explicit sex scene.

Triers’ horniest is probably The Idiots, (uncut) which is kind of clever as you work out whether to feel guilty laughing or getting turned on. Very clever idea. I think Waves was not bad as well but ages since I’ve seen it. Melancholia has an utterly beautiful scene [spoiler] with Kirsten Dunst spread out on the hillside waiting serenely for the world to end. It’s also his best comment IMO, and a very positive one, on mental attitudes and potentially mistaken ideas on what constitutes fucked-up states.

Offline EclipseBlue

I can't see that this has been mentioned yet, early nineties series called "A Time To Dance" about a 50 year old banker who has an affair with an 18 year old girl.

I absolutely loved Dervla Kirwen and have a thing for the accent from this series.  So bad the BBC banned it, I'd love to watch it again, I had so many pleaseurable moments to this one.

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"At the time, the storyline and the mildly explicit love scenes between Ronald Pickup and Dervla Kirwan provoked such a furore that the BBC banned the series from ever being repeated. Afterwards Kirwan let it be known she felt exploited and was offered no support from the producers. She said her decision to film an open air sex scene with a man twice her age in this Melvyn Bragg drama was the worst she'd made in her life." 

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She said her decision to film an open air sex scene with a man twice her age in this Melvyn Bragg drama was the worst she'd made in her life."

Draw from it what you will. The film Pleasure, a docu-drama on the pornography industry (lots of explicit nudity and some parts are quite sexy), goes into the very specific lists that are used, checklists to have in writing what the actress is and isn't up for, as well as the right to stop at any time. All explained in a very down to earth and professional way. Mainstream cinema is catching up with 'intimacy' advisers or whatever they're called. But there is always the possibility (not saying it happened to the woman in the Bragg movie) that even with full disclosure, safeguards, guidance and advice, a young actress will still make a stupid decision and LATER regret it, heaping bad press on others there at the time. Not everyone is as bright and successful at it as a Helen Mirren! The girl mentioned said it was her decision. Bragg, in all the interviews I've watched him, comes across as a very thoughtful person. It's a problem, but one that actresses must solve. Others need to solve it for their own protection against later claims. The movie Bombshell btw does a pretty good job of showing how insidious it can be. (Good movie, recommended, though no nudity).

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A Time To Dance seems to be on YouTube. First half also on Vimeo. Flicked through it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem to have anything explicit other a couple of flashes of her tits in the countryside and dressing in undies and suspenders plus the dodgy storylines. There's also an attempted or partial rape at the start of the film (no nudity). The story was 'explicitly' between an old guy and an 18yr old. Probably intended to raise questions. Comment: Clearly, the relationship was wrong. The guy should have found an 18 yr old prostitute to fuck (i.e. someone already committed to it, who realises what's involved, and any lifelong 'trauma' would, if it happened, be about having been a prostitute, not about the ages of the johns she fucked).

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I'll have to have a look, its possible I misremembered how explicit it was.  It certainly made an impression on my then young mind, I know that.

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I'll have to have a look, its possible I misremembered how explicit it was.  It certainly made an impression on my then young mind, I know that.

Yeah it's interesting. I wasn't criticising. It's really hard to get down to what is the nitty gritty. Psycho and Onibaba blew my mind for their explicitness as a teenager, both great movies and interesting for the sexual content. Worth mentioning I think but I'd also add there is not much if any content we'd call 'explicit' by today's standards. Actually, just checking IMDb, Onibaba maybe does have some reasonably explicit stuff. Yet it's an old black and white film, subtitled. (The IMDb Parental Guides are sometimes very helpful but not always accurate). Enjoying the discussion on the thread.

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Think I've mentioned it before but I fucking love the sex scenes in A History of Violence.

Not only a fantastic film with great directing and actors but you get to watch Maria Bello dressed as a cheerleader getting pounded by the extremely talented Viggo Mortensen. There is rough sex scene on the stairs later too.

9 out of 10 film if you've not seen it.

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Think I've mentioned it before but I fucking love the sex scenes in A History of Violence.

Not only a fantastic film with great directing and actors but you get to watch Maria Bello dressed as a cheerleader getting pounded by the extremely talented Viggo Mortensen. There is rough sex scene on the stairs later too.

9 out of 10 film if you've not seen it.

I'm interested in anything Cronenberg does, even if it can be a bit uneven. His film that you mention is on AppleTV (without subscription) and iTunes, as is his equally explicit Eastern Promises. I notice Apple also has the explicit (but sexy with it) Immoral Tales which was nominated for a Bafta. Four erotic tales from diffrent times in history. The first is the sexiest, a rather novel seduction by a young man and the girl he fancies. Then there's a very wierd one of a young woman obsessed with religious imagery and wanking off to it. The other two are closer to the tradition of Tinto Brass and fairly orgiastic with very heavy helpings of nudity. (Trailer) External Link/Members Only
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There was some pretty strong (for the BBC)  sex scenes in this last week

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lesbian 69'ing towards the end of the episode. 

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There was some pretty strong (for the BBC)  sex scenes in this last week

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lesbian 69'ing towards the end of the episode.

Would you care to give some more details? To what degree do you think the series is worth watching for its own sake?
Was the lesbian 69'ing complete with tits n fannies or just highly erotic, and was it short or long?

 :drinks:

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Would you care to give some more details? To what degree do you think the series is worth watching for its own sake?
Was the lesbian 69'ing complete with tits n fannies or just highly erotic, and was it short or long?

 :drinks:

I didn’t see any more of the programme as I was just channel hopping. Click the link and go to about the 37 minute mark to see for yourself

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Back in the pre-internet day, Channel 4 launched their “red triangle” series which caused
 loads of controversy in the media but to young me was a guide to tune in in the knowledge of great wanking potential. This was basically Chanel 4 trying to get away with showing soft porn under the guise of art. One I still recall regularly had a woman fucked by a sausage that had been loaded into the turret of a remote control tank. Art at its most beautiful.

Also, In the early days of Sky (or BSkyB as it was originally), you used to get German channels since there weren't many English ones. There was a programme called something like Manna Magazin which was a German show with an audience where they had journalists visiting all sorts of weird sex places in Germany and Austria which usually involved loads of nudity. There was also some sort of quiz show where the contestants got their clothes off. To this day I have no fucking idea what I was watching, but as a young kid it was better than anything on British TV.

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The streaming channels already have my credit card information. If I had young children at home from whom I wished to censor so-called ‘harmful contenta’, I could add a parental lock. It would be simple for any streaming service to add an IMDb link to ‘parental advisory’ details.

Why the fuck oh why I do not know why providers want to ‘shield’ me from moments in a film that the creator had decided were appropriate but the artistically-challenged censors of streaming services decide are not. It is patronising in the extreme, and even more so that it is done without explicit acknowledgment. Thankfully they are not permitted to airbrush Caravaggio or Botticelli!

I wonder if they would like me to “round down” payments to the nearest pound so I don’t have to see messy and misleading prices one penny short of a pound?