AW escort phone numbers now only visible to registered AW members

[daviemac]

I’ve posted the link to petition on saafe forum thread. Page 18.

Whatever you have posted about the petition was picked up by the auto sensor and deleted. If you have tried to bypass that it will lead to a ban.

Anyone in authority going to answer that question? I'd like that link and googling didn't find the petition.

The auto sensor keeps picking it up so higher up than me will have to decide.

[TommyDin]

Whatever you have posted about the petition was picked up by the auto sensor and deleted. If you have tried to bypass that it will lead to a ban.

Actually my post with link is still active on SAAFE forum.

[MrMohican]

As a day-to-day way of frustrating adultwank in this dumb ass move of theirs it would be good if when posting reviews going forward along with the AW link people could include the phone number of the lady in the review itself.

[Moby Dick]

As a day-to-day way of frustrating adultwank in this dumb ass move of theirs it would be good if when posting reviews going forward along with the AW link people could include the phone number of the lady in the review itself.

Good idea but Probably against the rules if it ain’t publicly advertised. 

Many well reviewed SP already have their phone numbers on their review summary page or wiki.

[Vic69]

As a day-to-day way of frustrating adultwank in this dumb ass move of theirs it would be good if when posting reviews going forward along with the AW link people could include the phone number of the lady in the review itself.

That's a good idea!

[Maak]

Prossie logic doesn’t work like that.
Dusty phone, less punters, need to put up prices to take home what I would normally earn.

One of my regulars added a discounted offer blow & go for £40, OW

[GingerNuts]

One of my regulars added a discounted offer blow & go for £40, OW

Out of interest, why no reviews of your regulars?

[PaulRuff]

Out of interest, why no reviews of your regulars?

Perhaps he can help the girl out by providing a link to her profile...

[daviemac]

Actually my post with link is still active on SAAFE forum.

How are you registered on SAAFE, are you a service provider.   

I have nothing to do with what is posted on there BTW.

[gray99999]

Ive seen SP already voicing their complaints on Twitter and Saafe about this change, and considering closing their accounts

AW didn't even inform them about it, but still want them to pay for displaying their numbers, and have now seen a significant drop in calls. Seem that the majority of SP and punters don't like this change

[lamboman]

If you want to be on SAAFE you just register.

[FiveKnuckles]

As a day-to-day way of frustrating adultwank in this dumb ass move of theirs it would be good if when posting reviews going forward along with the AW link people could include the phone number of the lady in the review itself.

one of the few positives from this AW change, stop SP swapping sims too often.  I was after a 2nd meet with a SP and didn't get a text reply, checked her profile and she changed numbers. 

Also, there's enough leeching without us having to post numbers in our reviews.   For me it's not a big deal logging onto AW.  If you want to meet the girl, login and get the number or stay home  and have a toss 

[deek12345]

if you look up the WGs list of previous reviews on UKP...often the phone number is shown there...or was this morning

[deek12345]

I agree with what Moby Dick posted in one of his reviews...the AW system of logging is b*****ks.

[Band1t]

I don’t see what the problem is. It’s simple and painless to create an account and no big deal logging in.
If you don’t like the site don’t go on it.

[Moby Dick]

I agree with what Moby Dick posted in one of his reviews...the AW system of logging is b*****ks.

No I didn’t post that.
if you are going to quote someone then do it properly.

I think the booking process is bollocks, since it is designed to provide beneficial positive feedback to the SP with little recourse for the punter should the SP decide to cancel or ghost you.
If there is an SP that insists on the booking process then I will play to their rules and I have enough feedback to get bookings without any issues. I don’t need anymore, but I needed it several years ago when I went through my film n fuck a pornstar phase.

I have no problem logging in, accessing my hot lists,  newsfeeds,  updates, checking messages, checking if the SP is online, logging in regularly etc since all this can help improve the chances of securing a booking or looking elsewhere. Sometimes I find that more convenient and less painful than randomly texting/phoning especially if not met before. Both have their place.

I have no concerns about my made up ID and throwaway phone number being shared by AW or stolen by Hackers.

I think many of you are limiting your punting opportunities by not being AW members, regardless  of the new non display of phone numbers.

I really don’t understand what the issue is, but I ain’t complaining, WG can now concentrate on logged in members. 

[Lou2019]

No I didn’t post that.
if you are going to quote someone then do it properly.

I think the booking process is bollocks, since it is designed to provide beneficial positive feedback to the SP with little recourse for the punter should the SP decide to cancel or ghost you.
If there is an SP that insists on the booking process then I will play to their rules and I have enough feedback to get bookings without any issues. I don’t need anymore, but I needed it several years ago when I went through my film n fuck a pornstar phase.

I have no problem logging in, accessing my hot lists,  newsfeeds,  updates, checking messages, checking if the SP is online, logging in regularly etc since all this can help improve the chances of securing a booking or looking elsewhere. Sometimes I find that more convenient and less painful than randomly texting/phoning especially if not met before. Both have their place.

I have no concerns about my made up ID and throwaway phone number being shared by AW or stolen by Hackers.

I think many of you are limiting your punting opportunities by not being AW members, regardless  of the new non display of phone numbers.

I really don’t understand what the issue is, but I ain’t complaining, WG can now concentrate on logged in members. 

But what works for you may not work for everyone else

[Moby Dick]

But what works for you may not work for everyone else

Didn’t say it did.

Thank fuck everyone is different, but I am not hearing any convincing arguments not to be a member.

I remember in the days before t’internet, and mobile phones, “worrying” that my girlfriend at the time might find my Sunday Sport in the back of my car with various numbers circled and addresses and times written in the margins. I don’t miss carrying all that change for the pay phone.

So I ain’t going to worry about other members on here who are happy to have an email address to log in here but think it is too risky to have one for AW. 

[A Decent Fist]

I had an outcall booking with a young escort tonight (positive review to follow before too long).

She has her phone number showing on her AW profile when she's working, so during our wind-down (and without any mention of UKP) I asked her if she had heard about the major change that Adultwork had just made. She had not.

After I explained, she told me she'd had far fewer calls during the last two days than usual and had been wondering why. She was rightly indignant that they would do this without even warning her.

This is going to impact SPs far more than punters in the first instance, and though I've been registered on AW for more than 10 years and have no worries about that, I fear the fallout from this stupid move will make it much harder to find good providers as they switch to totally untrustworthy places like Vivastreet.

As someone else pointed out, this is a good opportunity for some savvy entrepreneur to set up a new platform and steal all Adultwork's unhappy SPs. Only wish I had the know-how and/or the capital to do it myself.

[sparkus]

Didn’t say it did.

Thank fuck everyone is different, but I am not hearing any convincing arguments not to be a member.

I remember in the days before t’internet, and mobile phones, “worrying” that my girlfriend at the time might find my Sunday Sport in the back of my car with various numbers circled and addresses and times written in the margins. I don’t miss carrying all that change for the pay phone.

So I ain’t going to worry about other members on here who are happy to have an email address to log in here but think it is too risky to have one for AW. 

I think it's a step too far and even with email masking/redirects it seems iffy and I won't go along with it.

It's a pain to some extent but I've plenty of punting options off AW so all it will do is halve them, not obliterate them.

[lamboman]

 but I am not hearing any convincing arguments not to be a member.

Exactly you can't have any argument if you are a member here.

[deek12345]

My quote was from a Moby Dick review. Feb 28 2020. I must get along to specsavers.





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[Moby Dick]

My quote was from a Moby Dick review. Feb 28 2020. I must get along to specsavers.





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Yawn...

Yes goto specsavers and then learn to read, and then learn to quote people without adding extra words.

I agree with what Moby Dick posted in one of his reviews...the AW system of logging is b*****ks.

No I didn’t.
This is what I wrote:

TylerGFE MMF, Manchester, Northern Quarter

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Quick and easily organised on the day via phone calls and text. No AW bollocks. Never met her before.

I never said logging in was bollocks.
(I have explained above that I think the booking process is bollocks, I have no problem logging in)

So stop acting like a twat ‘cos you can’t explain why having a login for AW is more riskier than having a login for here.

[MrBeano]

just found out about this aw change really not impressed, with this change and the removal of verification pictures (which was great and needed to be there so you have a good idea of the sp) the site is just becoming a joke

[finn5555]

I don’t know why punters are kicking off, just register with a generic email and job done ✔️

Some on here need to get a grip 

[isaac_gauss]

It doesn't affect me directly. But, indirectly, it'll likely cause some disruptions.

I'm reading lots of SPs complaining about the unwanted change on Twitter. Their bookings are way down, so they're looking to other sites to advertise. So I suppose I'll have to venture out of the familiarity and 'safety' of AW, and head over to these other sites too, if that's where the action is.

It'd be good to have an aggregating search engine that searches all of the various listing sites (that I've been looking into seriously for the first time in the past few days). And perhaps the agencies. And Twitter too, why not. That might be a fun weekend project.

[Vic69]

I've just noticed if you log in and do a search for SP displaying a phone number it takes you to a subscription page, charging you for quick access to SP phone numbers ranging from 2.38 for 30 minutes to 71.40 for 6 months.

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[Lou2019]

I've just noticed if you log in and do a search for SP displaying a phone number it takes you to a subscription page, charging you for quick access to SP phone numbers ranging from 2.38 for 30 minutes to 71.40 for 6 months.

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But it’s still requires subscription???

[Vic69]

That's what I dont get.....unless their next step is to hide all our numbers and have phone number search as a subscription only service

[Vic69]

Gents, at the moment we are able to put our external website link at the bottom of our profile page, how long we are able to do that is debatable as it takes traffic away from AW, but at least we can get our contact details out to non members for the time being.

[pbrown355]

I've just found out about this and read the thread. There's a lot already been said that I agree and disagree with.
My individual take is something that I think is not understood by those who say "what is the difference between being on here and having an AW account"?
For someone like me who has very little understanding of the web, perceived risk and perceived security, an AW account is a significant perceived risk. I have insufficient knowledge to manage an AW account that I understand sends a "you logged in" message. I don't have another device that such a message could safely appear on.
I know some of you may post why I am mistaken about all of my points raised, but that doesn't help my perception of the possibilities, and there will be masses of people out there like me.
Finally, I have a number of phone numbers for current WGs which I will continue to use while they are current. After that I will rely on VS and agencies. This will make my punting life poorer until someone starts a new site to replace AW. This will happen as surely as night follows day. When it does let's hope that it's done by someone as good as the guys running this place.

[scutty brown]

I've just noticed if you log in and do a search for SP displaying a phone number it takes you to a subscription page, charging you for quick access to SP phone numbers ranging from 2.38 for 30 minutes to 71.40 for 6 months.

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That's been the case for years.

[A Decent Fist]

I know some of you may post why I am mistaken about all of my points raised

I'll start...

An AW account that I understand sends a "you logged in" message

I've been an AW member since 2005 and don't recall ever receiving such a message. I get messages to my punting email address when an escort replies to a message I send, when someone leaves me feedback, or when a new escort signs up in my area, but I have chosen to receive those messages in the member preferences.

I understand that some people are not IT savvy, but surely you must have used a "secret" email address to be on UK Punting? Even if you don't monitor that email on any device afterwards, after the sign-up process you will still be able to log in to AW. What's the big difference?

Unlike UK Punting, AW logs you out after 20 minutes of inactivity. Annoys the hell out of me but must be welcome to someone in your position.

PS: for the first five years of AW membership I was still with my very jealous and suspicious (with good reason) ex-wife so had similar security concerns. She never found out about my punting.

[Strawberry]

AW may send a message if you log in using a different device.

[Moby Dick]

I've just found out about this and read the thread. There's a lot already been said that I agree and disagree with.
My individual take is something that I think is not understood by those who say "what is the difference between being on here and having an AW account"?
For someone like me who has very little understanding of the web, perceived risk and perceived security, an AW account is a significant perceived risk. I have insufficient knowledge to manage an AW account that I understand sends a "you logged in" message. I don't have another device that such a message could safely appear on.
I know some of you may post why I am mistaken about all of my points raised, but that doesn't help my perception of the possibilities, and there will be masses of people out there like me.
Finally, I have a number of phone numbers for current WGs which I will continue to use while they are current. After that I will rely on VS and agencies. This will make my punting life poorer until someone starts a new site to replace AW. This will happen as surely as night follows day. When it does let's hope that it's done by someone as good as the guys running this place.

Yep just set up a “mickey mouse” email address for registration.
Then never use that email address again.
Use a device that no one else has access to (like you already do for UKP  )

[pbrown355]

You miss my point. Possibly my fault. You have explained rationally why I may as well have an AW account. You are probably right. But my lack of internet savvy is the issue. The ability, or lack of it, to correctly quantify the risk is the problem for the many out there, possibly including me. If you are unable to quantify the risk you won't take it. That will leave dusty phones and people looking for another punting site. Those people will be SPs and punters.
Sorry if I am incorrect about the login messages, I thought I read it earlier in this thread. Thanks for the clarification.

[Moby Dick]

I hope this does mean SPs have to reconsider how they advertise and attract new clients.
One way would be to offer discounts to AW members, win win for all concerned. 

[marc_hotsteppa]

AW logs you out after 20 minutes of inactivity. Annoys the hell out of me

Solution if you are using Chrome on a PC, install the extension "Tab Reloader" which is a page auto refresh that you can set to say 5 minutes 

[deek12345]

Well Moby Dick thinks i'm a twat. Looks like a few other twats like me on here over this issue.  . I don't quite understand why I'm the only one considered "paranoid", but not everyone is logical, and we must try to be tolerant with those who think abuse is the best way to conduct a discussion.

The difference between UKP and AW, is that UKP is selling nothing, and never wants to contact members and doesn't communicate with anyone. It's a FORUM, not an interactive website (at least at present).

AW is acting a "go-between" for punters and WGs, and this traffic is/can be/will be stored somewhere, if they choose.

It's a remote possibility (but may get less remote with any future AW money making changes), that anyone would bother to hack  into AW.

But, we have seen on UKP about blackmailers (pointlessly) contacting punters even on their punting phones after visiting WGs, asking for £1,000 or whatever.

If I joined AW, I THINK ?? there would be/will be more info about me on AW than on UKP. If I were a hacker I would attack AW long before UKP.

I have never said ANYONE on AW is going to get their details hacked and i have never accused anyone of being a fool to log on to AW, because scattering insults is not my preference. I've just recommended thinking carefully of the possible risks.

BUT if AW decide in future to charge punters for access, with financial card details stored on AW, then will be the time to watch out.

You just need some Mumsnet hacker who think punting is a sin, as Julian Assange thinks war (by the USA anyway) is a sin, and it's all wide open.

MobyD now says (by way of correction) that he finds no problem with actually logging in to AW, buts its the CONTACTING girls process he (in a review) described as bollocks, so he was contacting (at least one) WGs without logging on to AW.  I missed the distinction. Well, seems like the amount of "contacting" bollocks he will suffer is about to increase, because now (like all others) he will have to log in to AW, and then go through the bollocks process every time.

When looking for AW motive, follow the money etc.

[Moby Dick]

Well Moby Dick thinks i'm a twat.

You haven’t got a clue what I am thinking.

I wrote you are “acting like a twat.”

I wrote that not because you have a different view regarding AW login, security etc but because you keep misquoting me as if I somehow have a problem logging into AW.

I don’t, I haven’t corrected myself or changed my point of view,  so why can’t you accept that?
And stop acting like a twat.

[Vic69]

I hope this does mean SPs have to reconsider how they advertise and attract new clients.
One way would be to offer discounts to AW members, win win for all concerned. 

I think I would be more inclined to offer a discount to anyone who finds me outside of AW   AW are making it so hard for non members to find us, it would be an incentive for punters to ditch AW

[Moby Dick]

I think I would be more inclined to offer a discount to anyone who finds me outside of AW   AW are making it so hard for non members to find us, it would be an incentive for punters to ditch AW

Why don’t you just advertise in the back of local rags / classified ads or phone boxes (do they still exist?) for those that don’t like to use the internet. Give them a bigger discount, 1990s prices, although you may have to have a different phone number or ask how did they find you to make it “exclusive”.

[Vic69]

We are all looking at our advertising options, however whatever method we use they are costly, one site I use is £250 a month and many others are similar costs, that is why AW has become so big as it's charges are relatively small in comparison.
I would love to charge 1990's prices, if my landlord in central London charged me 1990's rent lol

[petermisc]

The difference between UKP and AW, is that UKP is selling nothing, and never wants to contact members and doesn't communicate with anyone. It's a FORUM, not an interactive website (at least at present).

AW is acting a "go-between" for punters and WGs, and this traffic is/can be/will be stored somewhere, if they choose.

l There is no record on AW that I have ever had a punt, as I don't use their booking system.  But both you and I have left detailed reviews on here, as a record of our punting activities.

As others have said, use a throwaway email address to set up an account.  Then make your bookings direct with the SP by phone.  AW will have no records, other than what pages you have viewed.

[daviemac]

If I joined AW, I THINK ?? there would be/will be more info about me on AW than on UKP. If I were a hacker I would attack AW long before UKP.

That is what you can't grasp, or are pretending to not understand.  Normally when one registers on a site like this it is done using a fake name and a spurious 'throw away' email address totally separate from one's everyday life.

Normally when someone registers on AW it is done using a fake name and a spurious 'throw away' email address totally separate from their everyday life. The only difference with AW is the facility to add further information about yourself should you wish to do so.

If you can't see the similarities in what information is stored about you then there's nothing more to say really, make yourself a tinfoil hat or stop in bed under the duvet.

[JonnyS]

So members only can see it.
Maybe some SPs will welcome this as a way to cut timewasters / improve quality of enquires?
At least until they have a quiet day 

Will you get your profile took down if you post your number on your profile, or provide a link to another website that shows your number?

There are many other adult escorting websites that seem to “harvest” profiles from AW and display the SPs numbers. Never understood why they exist.

UKP also has phone numbers displayed for many SPs on their review summary page. I guess linked to the punting wiki.

Any idea how you can change an SP’s number on their summary page here? One of my regs mentioned it’s her old number on here, so if non-AW members look here for her number they’ll get the wrong one

[daviemac]

Any idea how you can change an SP’s number on their summary page here? One of my regs mentioned it’s her old number on here, so if non-AW members look here for her number they’ll get the wrong one

Yes, go and see her then post a review and if her phone number is openly advertised then you can include it. If you think the mods or admin have the time or inclination to alter old threads to advertise on behalf of SPs you are sadly mistaken.

Whoever wants to contact her can message her and get her number.

[scutty brown]

Yes, go and see her then post a review and if her phone number is openly advertised then you can include it. If you think the mods or admin have the time or inclination to alter old threads to advertise on behalf of SPs you are sadly mistaken.

Whoever wants to contact her can message her and get her number.

He means the review summary page, not the reviews themselves.
Presumably the number on the review summary list page is snap-shotted automatically when a review is indexed.
Do subsequent reviews for the same girl update that snapshot?
But presumably from now on capturing the phone number automatically will become difficult anyway - unless there's a way of doing it from a permanently logged-in state?

[Sexpest]

He means the review summary page, not the reviews themselves.
Presumably the number on the review summary list page is snap-shotted automatically when a review is indexed.
Do subsequent reviews for the same girl update that snapshot?
But presumably from now on capturing the phone number automatically will become difficult anyway - unless there's a way of doing it from a permanently logged-in state?

Agree with this when the girls change their numbers some of them are not correct at the top of the review pages. A lot of them are openly advertising their numbers on Twitter so can we link Twitter profiles to reviews if they are open and for work only? It’s not about advertising the service provider it’s about helping punters get the number here rather than joining adultwork if they don’t want to.

[daviemac]

He means the review summary page, not the reviews themselves.
Presumably the number on the review summary list page is snap-shotted automatically when a review is indexed.
Do subsequent reviews for the same girl update that snapshot?
But presumably from now on capturing the phone number automatically will become difficult anyway - unless there's a way of doing it from a permanently logged-in state?

Same answer applies, you are asking us to manually update an SPs phone number. This would also mean us checking if the number is openly advertised on a current advert first.

If you try an SP's phone and it's no longer in use message her for her new number.