AW escort phone numbers now only visible to registered AW members

[Moby Dick]

All the SPs will do in the end is probably use this as another excuse for jacking up prices as part of an annual refresh to cover their additional £5/day or whatever the AW number hosting rental costs them.

Most likely
£5 per day , divide by 10clients = 50p per booking.
Add Margin, and round up to the nearest tenner. 
Extra £10hh, £20ph

[jonnw16]

I have to say I am bemused by all this paranoia about creating fake email/AW accounts from people who are registered on, and logged into, a forum about punting in the UK!

[Doc Holliday]

I have to say I am bemused by all this paranoia about creating fake email/AW accounts from people who are registered on, and logged into, a forum about punting in the UK!

I cannot understand it either 

Whatever security measures you have in place for UKP just do the same.

However from an SP point of view we know that most punters are not members of punting forums and those who previously just accessed AW, will now have to create an account. I think many will do so, but not all and I could be wrong. Only time will tell?

[BlueBirb]

I have to say I am bemused by all this paranoia about creating fake email/AW accounts from people who are registered on, and logged into, a forum about punting in the UK!

+1

[MissWolf]

Me too, think they must be on about EH. 

There is a thread on saafe and on Escortinghub (EH) it's getting a lot of escorts and punters angry, this is a total piss take by AW and they may have shot themselves in the foot tbh

[TommyDin]

I’m trying to find a thread on saafe but can’t see it.

[kevinb79]

Just reactivated my AW account but can understand why many prefer not to have one. I suspect this will hit many SP's pretty quickly.

[scutty brown]

I’m trying to find a thread on saafe but can’t see it.

There's a whole subforum dedicated to AW, only visible to logged-in members

[golden bull]

Well I hope all the SPs in those forums are complaining to AW vehemently!!

[Vic69]

Well I hope all the SPs in those forums are complaining to AW vehemently!!

I've sent 2 emails to them and gone on live chat explaining the implications of what they have done, they just said they are sorry and to fill a form in (which I already have done), and given me a link to their help centre.
They have also removed the paid for email link to non members, the link to my website and Twitter is still visible in the desktop version (but I suspect that will disappear soon as well)

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[lamboman]

I've sent 2 emails to them and gone on live chat explaining the implications of what they have done, they just said they are sorry and to fill a form in (which I already have done), and given me a link to their help centre.
They have also removed the paid for email link to non members, the link to my website and Twitter is still visible in the desktop version (but I suspect that will disappear soon as well)

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What explanation did they give?Poor form when it's peoples livelihood.

[Vic69]

What explanation did they give?Poor form when it's peoples livelihood.

That's their explanation above! Last Thursday I received 29 phone calls, this Thursday I have received 1 call! Have paid out for phone number display (£1) profile featuring (£20 ) available today (5)travel costs (£30) hotel (£130).  Looking on SAAFE everyone else is in the same boat...

[golden bull]

That's their explanation above! Last Thursday I received 29 phone calls, this Thursday I have received 1 call! Have paid out for phone number display (£1) profile featuring (£20 ) available today (5)travel costs (£30) hotel (£130).  Looking on SAAFE everyone else is in the same boat...

Wow that is telling….. and they said it wouldn’t impact on calls and bookings!! What a load of tosh.
Someone needs to set up a rival site if ever there’s an opportunity to challenge AW

[Vic69]

Wow that is telling….. and they said it wouldn’t impact on calls and bookings!! What a load of tosh.
Someone needs to set up a rival site if ever there’s an opportunity to challenge AW

Exactly! AW has become too big and is now calling the shots, many many girls are now looking for alternatives to AW, I've spent all day trying to get my head round what to do, luckily I set up my website about a year ago as I didnt want to be entirely reliant on AW, so I do have that security.  It's a perfect opportunity for an entrepreneur to set up a competitor site to AW as there are so many pissed off people looking for an alternative

[lamboman]

That's their explanation above! Last Thursday I received 29 phone calls, this Thursday I have received 1 call! Have paid out for phone number display (£1) profile featuring (£20 ) available today (5)travel costs (£30) hotel (£130).  Looking on SAAFE everyone else is in the same boat...

Sorry didn't click your image (thought it was your emails).
What a load of BS.

[scutty brown]

Exactly! AW has become too big and is now calling the shots, many many girls are now looking for alternatives to AW, I've spent all day trying to get my head round what to do, luckily I set up my website about a year ago as I didnt want to be entirely reliant on AW, so I do have that security.  It's a perfect opportunity for an entrepreneur to set up a competitor site to AW as there are so many pissed off people looking for an alternative

Plenty of alternative sites
Just needs you girls to form a consensus over which ones to use

[lamboman]

Plenty of alternative sites

Plenty? For all it's faults AW is easy for punters to use.

[Vic69]

Plenty of alternative sites
Just needs you girls to form a consensus over which ones to use

I've been looking at directory sites such as City of Love, eros London Escort Guide etc

[Vic69]

Plenty? For all it's faults AW is easy for punters to use.

Yes, for us too, that's why finding an alternative is difficult.

[deek12345]

moby dick...you're not listening...a "false" (no such thing) email address still links back to your computer..for any hacker who knows how to trace it.

[sparkus]

Plenty? For all it's faults AW is easy for punters to use.

It also has a lot more verification than VS, not to mention indexing of profiles.

[Moby Dick]

moby dick...you're not listening...a "false" (no such thing) email address still links back to your computer..for any hacker who knows how to trace it.

Your the one not listening.
I don’t use a computer.
Just a mobile phone and a made up email address that I don’t use for anything else.
What they gunna do when they find me..... harpoon me for paying for legal sex 

[TommyDin]

There is petition going online about it.
Am I allowed to paste the link or not?

[daviemac]

moby dick...you're not listening...a "false" (no such thing) email address still links back to your computer..for any hacker who knows how to trace it.

You seem to be quite concerned about being hacked, are you as paranoid in everyday life, with all the dangers there are in the big bad world do you ever actually go out.   

The reason people use spurious emails with a fake user name is not to hide from hackers but to keep punting activities detached from normal everyday civvy life.

[scutty brown]

Yes, for us too, that's why finding an alternative is difficult.

see this thread for alternatives
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279443.0

[lamboman]

see this thread for alternatives
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279443.0

Too niche not an alternative.

[lamboman]

moby dick...you're not listening...a "false" (no such thing) email address still links back to your computer..for any hacker who knows how to trace it.

You're paranoid a decent hacker has far bigger fish to fry.

[Malvolio]

moby dick...you're not listening...a "false" (no such thing) email address still links back to your computer..for any hacker who knows how to trace it.

So what - I expect 50% of men look at porn on the internet, and if I was a hacker those sites are what I'd be targeting.

There are bigger things to worry about in this world.

[Vic69]

see this thread for alternatives
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=279443.0

Thankyou x much appreciated x

[Baklava]

Hey mates do you know any other trustworthy websites other than aw? I hate logging in cause I’m too forgetful and my Mrs too smart.  Cheers

[Sexpest]

What I’m worried about in all of this is that more women from aw now go across to only f’s and online rather than physical meets. If they can’t earn their money you don’t just think they are gonna stay in it. They will all pack it in and do something else. This does not leave us in a good position.
Adultwork are ass holes doing this to them before Xmas let’s be honest how many of them have big pots of savings to get them through 2 years of covid and now this.
I have an account so I’m ok however I would see what adultwork have done as a massive blow to the independents as a whole.
I’m not too into using agencies I like to speak to the service provider on the phone and make my own mind up.

[A Decent Fist]

There is petition going online about it.
Am I allowed to paste the link or not?

Anyone in authority going to answer that question? I'd like that link and googling didn't find the petition.

[daviemac]

Anyone in authority going to answer that question? I'd like that link and googling didn't find the petition.

The auto sensor keeps picking it up so higher up than me will have to decide.

[hunkybc]

I think this is down to security. Maybe AW want to create an audit trail. They will be able to see which accounts have viewed which sp profiles etc. In the event of the need for an enquiry they will be able to help narrow down which punters have see who etc.

There's obviously more to this than we know.
..
 

[shagmore]

Think they could have shot themselves in the foot, as not everyone will want to register, its not an issue, but a faff, but it will make life easier as will be able to block out wg that don't want to see.
Its now saying you need to register / log on
This will surely have an impact on the number of punters get to see the WG
Be interesting o see what a Wg perspective is on this.

[scutty brown]

Thankyou x much appreciated x

It could be worth posting a link to that thread on SAAFE
I tried posting the same list there but Amy preferred to ban me rather than let a man post something helpful.

[scutty brown]

I think this is down to security. Maybe AW want to create an audit trail. They will be able to see which accounts have viewed which sp profiles etc. In the event of the need for an enquiry they will be able to help narrow down which punters have see who etc.

There's obviously more to this than we know.
..

It's not about security.
It's about creating a customer database which they can monetarise / market.
Remember - at the moment AW only make money out of girls who webcam or  sell photos (plus a tiny amount for posting phone numbers) and  nothing out of most punters. This gives them a list of customers who can be mailshotted, and they're also hoping that once logged into their site punters will be more likely too videochat / buy films and photos. They're forcing punters into the shop gateway

[deek12345]

Scutty brown says:-

It's not about security.
It's about creating a customer database which they can monetarise / market.
Remember - at the moment AW only make money out of girls who webcam or  sell photos (plus a tiny amount for posting phone numbers) and  nothing out of most punters. This gives them a list of customers who can be mailshotted, and they're also hoping that once logged into their site punters will be more likely too videochat / buy films and photos. They're forcing punters into the shop gateway

Well at least one person thinks (as I do) that AW will probably end up using your AW login data (and site movements) for something you might ?? prefer they didn't

By the way, for those still living in the 1950s, the iphone is a now a computer., yes really...it's a little computer. Who could guess that ??. That's why you can use it to browse the web, get emails and log on to AW.

I dont use a computer, I use an iphone...LO(very)L.

Whether trusting bunnies accept/like it or not, the more sites that you have logged into, the more chance of your details being hacked. It's not about prohibition, its about caution. The fact that everyone on this forum does NOT already have an AW account, proves that many believe this.

There is no argument. The safest way to contact a WG is by texting/phoning from a pay as you go, anonymous phone. From reading UKP, many agree and do.

Anyone who thinks this change by AW is to benefit punters or WGs, is up among the fairies. The question is, how is it going to be used to benefit AW. ?

UKP will be more useful in future, as many switch to using (ie gambling) Kommons and GT and VS ladies

 

[daviemac]

Scutty brown says:-

I think you've been here long enough to know how to use the quote function, it makes your post so much easier to read and understand. Which part is what you are trying to say and which is what Scutty is saying.   

By the way you are going on about being hacked makes me wonder why you are risking being here.

[Doc Holliday]

Whether trusting bunnies accept/like it or not, the more sites that you have logged into, the more chance of your details being hacked. It's not about prohibition, its about caution. The fact that everyone on this forum does NOT already have an AW account, proves that many believe this.

God knows how many online accounts I have amassed over the years all for the real Doc Holliday. All with genuine emails and my real name, address even card details etc. That is where the real security risk lies. Not the likes of AW or UKP where I have no personal details?

On what do you base the assumption that nobody on this forum has an AW account?

[Moby Dick]

You come across rather paranoid geek12345.

You have an account on here but not adultworks?
Explain your logic behind that rather than trying to be superior.

[RedKettle]

God knows how many online accounts I have amassed over the years all for the real Doc Holliday. All with genuine emails and my real name, address even card details etc. That is where the real security risk lies. Not the likes of AW or UKP where I have no personal details?

On what do you base the assumption that nobody on this forum has an AW account?

Absolutely.

Also frightening if you use software to check how many of those online accounts have had data breached and it tells you the email and password you used with them. I tightened up my online security after that, but my AW account with a punting email and mobile is no concern to me at all.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

There's a whole subforum dedicated to AW, only visible to logged-in members

Speaking to a well known SP last night there're all mighty pissed off with it and a lot are claiming their getting less work since it was implemented!...

[deek12345]

Quote from a Moby Dick review in 2020

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Quick and easily organised on the day via phone calls and text. No AW bollocks[/b]

Is it just me that is "paranoid" ??

Isn't it odd how a simple polite message to punters...with no ulterior motive ...to just be careful.....often brings out the manic antagonism and personal insults. Can't say I'm bothered.

After all, one sees such people often, screaming at each other because someone steps out on a crossing in front of their car.

My details are available all over. i just don't trust AW (among others)  to keep them private, if it suits them to do otherwise. But then maybe I'm paranoid. I really dont trust people - generally.

[Vic69]

Anyone in authority going to answer that question? I'd like that link and googling didn't find the petition.

I have the link, how can I get it to you?

[MrMohican]

As a punter there's two game-changing features that AW has over any competitors sites

• geographic search by postcode.
If im in a particular part of the city its great to know what my options are within a specified radius.

• comprehensive 'enjoys' list
so i know what a specific WG says she will offer before I even have to pick up the phone.
Vivastreet do a stripped down version but it doesnt offer things like CIM.

If a competitor sprang up that offered the same level of functionality I'd drop AW like a stone. I hate the site.

Its supposed to verifiy pics which in itself would be another useful feature if it actually worked. The amount of skanks and scammers and bait and switchers it allows despite this does my head in.

Its shitty, tiny little thumbnail pics, the bad navigation and design that hasnt been updated literally for decades.

and now the fact that they are trying to arm twist people into becoming members before they'll release the phone number of an escort is the final straw for me.

Its a fuckwit move that frustrates both users and WGs.

Come on there's got to be some entre-porn-eurs out there wanting a new project to invest in...

someone develop an alternative with the functionality outlined above and you'll have people flocking to you!

[Moby Dick]

Quote from a Moby Dick review in 2020

Comms
Quick and easily organised on the day via phone calls and text. No AW bollocks[/b]

Is it just me that is "paranoid" ??

Isn't it odd how a simple polite message to punters...with no ulterior motive ...to just be careful.....often brings out the manic antagonism and personal insults. Can't say I'm bothered.

After all, one sees such people often, screaming at each other because someone steps out on a crossing in front of their car.

My details are available all over. i just don't trust AW (among others)  to keep them private, if it suits them to do otherwise. But then maybe I'm paranoid. I really dont trust people - generally.

Not paranoid, I have a login for AW.
I stated the facts, I didn’t use the AW booking system, but I have done for other meets.
You’re the one throwing around insults. I am just trying to understand the concern.
You don’t really explain what your concerns are about. Just answer the questions and stop being so defensive. There is no need to go into peoples post history.
What are they going to do with a made up email address and a disposable SIM / phone that isn’t linked to any other profiles or used for anything other than punting?

[PaulRuff]

Speaking to a well known SP last night there're all mighty pissed off with it and a lot are claiming their getting less work since it was implemented!...

Excellent news, perhaps more reasonable pricing may see a resurgence in interest from those punters willing to use AW?

I won't hold my breath for logic to become endemic however...

[Moby Dick]

Excellent news, perhaps more reasonable pricing may see a resurgence in interest from those punters willing to use AW?

I won't hold my breath for logic to become endemic however...

Prossie logic doesn’t work like that.
Dusty phone, less punters, need to put up prices to take home what I would normally earn.

[TommyDin]

The auto sensor keeps picking it up so higher up than me will have to decide.

I’ve posted the link to petition on saafe forum thread. Page 18.