AW escort phone numbers now only visible to registered AW members

[pbrown355]

I've just looked on AW and read something that may change my mind. Apparently, logged in you can search for those with a number showing. That would have forever been one of my search criteria if I knew of it's availability.
For my own risk/reward ratio this may mean I actually create an account.
I still think there'll be thousands who don't and AW may have begun their own demise.

[scutty brown]

I've just looked on AW and read something that may change my mind. Apparently, logged in you can search for those with a number showing.

Only if you pay

[FiveKnuckles]

The difference between UKP and AW, is that UKP is selling nothing, and never wants to contact members and doesn't communicate with anyone. It's a FORUM, not an interactive website (at least at present).

AW is acting a "go-between" for punters and WGs, and this traffic is/can be/will be stored somewhere, if they choose.

It's a remote possibility (but may get less remote with any future AW money making changes), that anyone would bother to hack  into AW.

But, we have seen on UKP about blackmailers (pointlessly) contacting punters even on their punting phones after visiting WGs, asking for £1,000 or whatever.

If I joined AW, I THINK ?? there would be/will be more info about me on AW than on UKP. If I were a hacker I would attack AW long before UKP.

I have never said ANYONE on AW is going to get their details hacked and i have never accused anyone of being a fool to log on to AW, because scattering insults is not my preference. I've just recommended thinking carefully of the possible risks.

BUT if AW decide in future to charge punters for access, with financial card details stored on AW, then will be the time to watch out.

perhaps it's time for you to create an AW account and see what info is needed, rather than write a load of tripe with all the assumptions?   

What's a hacker going to do with a fake name and email?   there is no requirement to log a debit card number.  they use to take paysafecard and if buying AW credit exposes your real identity, just don't buy any.   AW will have your IP and so does UKP, what's the big fuss?

 
AW takes a huge slice of converting AW credits into real cash.  the more punters that are registered gives them better odds of getting more income.

[deek12345]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.







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[FiveKnuckles]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.

if you break it down like that, we're all fucked     

so the hackers have the fb, sony and other hacked datebases.  they get the AW database and cross check IP's to get our real info? 

need to get onto Dr.fox and order some #chillpills 

[GingerNuts]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.

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Keep in mind that most casual (e.g., non-business) email senders can only be traced to the service through which they sent their email, not their physical address.

I followed that guide and traced an e-mail I sent to myself. What it traced was the IP address of my e-mail provider.

[RedKettle]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.







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I think you are completely misunderstanding the article you attached - it is not saying that if I create an AOL email in the name John Smith you can then find my other email account in my real name of Dan Jones.  Try and read it again.

[FiveKnuckles]

I followed that guide and traced an e-mail I sent to myself. What it traced was the IP address of my e-mail provider.

a determined hacker will then access your ISP's database and associated that IP to a real address.   Would pay well if they found trump or bezos 

[GingerNuts]

a determined hacker will then access your ISP's database and associated that IP to a real address.   Would pay well if they found trump or bezos 

So:

- They hack say AW to to find my throw my throw away e-mail address and presumably then have to find an actual e-mail I've sent to find the IP address associated with it.

- They then have to hack my e-mail provider to find my real IP address and internet provider.

- Then they have to hack my internet provider to find a physical address to go with my IP address.

I really don't think I've got anything to worry about.

[daviemac]

Ignorance is bliss.

It certainly is. You still don't get it do you, your IP address is on here, what difference would it make if it was also on AW.   

[Murray Mint]

I haven’t read the whole of this thread, but it seems to me that unless you’re totally paranoid (in which case you shouldn’t be engaging in this hobby), I can’t see what the fuss I all about.

I have a punting email address. As for my use of AW, I’ve had an account since it started, but I very seldom opened it since I never use their booking system (except for that rare occasion) and have never written an AW review. If the SP didn’t display a phone number or email address, then (again, except for that rare occasion) I looked elsewhere. Hence, I didn’t need to log into my account.

This has had an unfortunate consequence. During the lockdown, AW sent an email to my punting address to the effect that as my account had been dormant for a long time, they were going to deactivate it unless I responded to the email within a set time. That time was long gone by the time I decided to resume punting and read the email.

I wasn’t going to bother opening a new account, but with their rule change, I’ve had to. It’s no big issue.

[lillythesavage]

It certainly is. You still don't get it do you, your IP address is on here, what difference would it make if it was also on AW.   

Unless you are totally online paranoid with no online presence, which if you are here you have not, why so paranoid about AW?  Hackers are surely more interested in accounts linked to payment cards or bank accounts not you going for a bunk up? 

[Payyourwaymate]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.







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Can't you get around this by using a VM (Virtual Machine) to use a disposalable/temp email to create the real "fake" email address? It won't trace to your original email outside of the VM then won't it? Since you never used an original email in the first place right?

Plus what's the odds that a punters details will get traced and will warrant some form of blackmail unless they have potential blackmail value. Any politicians or millionaires, celebs amongst us?

[lamboman]

So:

- They hack say AW to to find my throw my throw away e-mail address and presumably then have to find an actual e-mail I've sent to find the IP address associated with it.

- They then have to hack my e-mail provider to find my real IP address and internet provider.

- Then they have to hack my internet provider to find a physical address to go with my IP address.

I really don't think I've got anything to worry about.

Indeed ridiculous to think anyone would bother.

[KatieEdinburgh]

We are all looking at our advertising options, however whatever method we use they are costly, one site I use is £250 a month and many others are similar costs, that is why AW has become so big as it's charges are relatively small in comparison.
I would love to charge 1990's prices, if my landlord in central London charged me 1990's rent lol

Tryst is free to advertise on and is more sex worker friendly compared to AW as it is run by SP I believe.

Would be great if more WGs got set up there as one of the only main downsides is due to that it’s not as popular, which will mean less clients will use it as only a handful of results might show for the city they’re searching for.

[lamboman]

as it is run by SP I believe.

Not you is it?
Do you have a link because a Google search throws up nothing.

[daviemac]

Not you is it?
Do you have a link because a Google search throws up nothing.

Tryst escort advertising   

[MrMatrix]

Spot on . I am registered , but 80% of the time I just click and ring .

As indeed do most of us

Just checked this out. What a ball ache having to log into AW each time for a phone number

[lamboman]

Tryst escort advertising   

  that's an issue already the name is unlikely to be near the top of a search although she hasn't stated the correct name to be fair.
Site's a mess,AW has it's faults but is funcionality is excellent.

[tynetunnel]

Ignorance is bliss.

Anyone who thinks that using a so-called "fake" email address...eg Joepunter34567@yoohoo.co uk...means that that can't be traced easily (by the recipient) back to the ORIGINAL email account....does not know how tracing works.

Its not about guaranteeing you will be hacked...just being catious

I think?? Facebook recently sold about X million of their clients contact and other details. The clients did not KNOW.

You need to be pretty computer savvy to create a real FAKE email. Good luck.







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You’re the ignorant one, and no you don’t need to be “computer savvy to create a real FAKE email” address…. You plainly aren’t computer savvy if you believe what you’re posting. I’m logged into this site, AW, and others with fake email addresses. I could even use disposable ones if I wanted to, but have no need as I am computer savvy and have covered all the bases already to avoid being outed by any n’er do well types.
 
Please stop posting alarmist bollocks. If your knowledge is this poor, perhaps paper and invisible ink would be a safer communication method for you ? 

[daviemac]

that's an issue already the name is unlikely to be near the top of a search although she hasn't stated the correct name to be fair.
Site's a mess,AW has it's faults but is funcionality is excellent.

Did you try searching for "Tryst escort advertising"?? it's top of the list on Bing.   

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[Strawberry]

Did you try searching for "Tryst escort advertising"?? it's top of the list on Bing.   

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Tryst Escort works well, top of Google. Seeing it mentioned on a few forums including here I went to check my profile which I've had for a couple of years, I'm going to fire it up.

[lamboman]

Did you try searching for "Tryst escort advertising"?? it's top of the list on Bing.   

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I'm not a yank so I don't use Bing,I just searched for Tryst as the lady advised.
If she had said Tryst escort advertising i'd have searched for that.

[KatieEdinburgh]

Not you is it?
Do you have a link because a Google search throws up nothing.

No it’s not a site with anything to do with me, I don’t know who owns it but I heard it is a collective group of escorts.

You won’t even find an ad for me on there either since I’m not currently working. But I know some people do use it, so it could be an option and I wanted to suggest something that could help other ladies and Vic said she was spending £250 on some sites so at the very very least it’s free.

Don’t think it necessarily is a replacement for AW as won’t generate that many enquiries, would need a lot more SPs to join first before punters would also be checking there since right now the main con is it’s not so popular yet in UK so not useful for either group.

link for it is  >   External Link/Members Only   (mods you can remove if not allowed)

[Vic69]

Tryst is free to advertise on and is more sex worker friendly compared to AW as it is run by SP I believe.

Would be great if more WGs got set up there as one of the only main downsides is due to that it’s not as popular, which will mean less clients will use it as only a handful of results might show for the city they’re searching for.

I joined Tryst a couple of weeks ago, thanks for advice though x

[scutty brown]

Tryst escort advertising   

Well that looks a waste of time
Just tried a search within 50km of Preston and the only hits were Leicester, Northampton, Northampton, Nottingham, Nottingham
Tried the same with Lancaster and got Cardiff, Cardiff, Vancouver
Site need fundamental work if its going to function

and only the basic package is free for the girls - there are multiple price tiers
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[scutty brown]

Tryst Escort works well, top of Google. Seeing it mentioned on a few forums including here I went to check my profile which I've had for a couple of years, I'm going to fire it up.

Searching on "Kendal" or "Ulverston" doesn't find you Ruth

[Moby Dick]

Searching on "Kendal" or "Ulverston" doesn't find you Ruth

In Manchester
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Edit, To display a phone number I had to enter 5 letter code to prove I wasn’t a robot
That’s 20% more effort than AW 

[Moby Dick]

Tryst 5 letter codes:
Twats
Cocks
Pussy
Cunts
Boobs
Norks
Clunge
Dicks
Spunk
Butts
Spank
Sperm
Wanks
Minge
Sluts
Tarts
Fanny
Farts
Crack
Whore
Penis

[Strawberry]

Searching on "Kendal" or "Ulverston" doesn't find you Ruth

I was under the impression I need to verify the account for my profile to be visible.

Also the closest location on their location  list is Manchester, I do travel there so that's the place I'll choose.

[scutty brown]

In Manchester
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Which should have shown in my Preston search
Just shows the site isn't fit for purpose

[A Decent Fist]

I've just looked on AW and read something that may change my mind. Apparently, logged in you can search for those with a number showing. That would have forever been one of my search criteria if I knew of it's availability.
For my own risk/reward ratio this may mean I actually create an account.
I still think there'll be thousands who don't and AW may have begun their own demise.

The brilliant AW Civilizer plugin for Chrome created by UKP member Kuck (there's a long thread about it on here – search for AW Chrome Extension) lets you narrow down an AW search to those profiles showing a phone number – without paying anything. It even shows you cached numbers for those profiles which have temporarily taken it off.

But following last week's change you still have to be logged in to AW to see the numbers.

[scutty brown]

The brilliant AW Civilizer plugin for Chrome created by UKP member Kuck (there's a long thread about it on here – search for AW Chrome Extension) lets you narrow down an AW search to those profiles showing a phone number – without paying anything. It even shows you cached numbers for those profiles which have temporarily taken it off.

But following last week's change you still have to be logged in to AW to see the numbers.

Not just Chrome
I've got it running in Edge, and it will run in Opera

[A Decent Fist]

I've got it running in Edge

Me too. It's basically Chrome but separate, and all my kinky stuff is done in Edge.

[daviemac]

I'm not a yank so I don't use Bing,I just searched for Tryst as the lady advised.
If she had said Tryst escort advertising i'd have searched for that.

Are you just another one who need to be spoon-fed information.

If you can't use your own initiative and add what the site is about to the search . . . . . . . .  .

[bops909]

a determined hacker will then access your ISP's database and associated that IP to a real address.   Would pay well if they found trump or bezos 

A determined hacker is probably much more interested in using ransomware to take down large organisations by holding their systems to ransom than going after individual credit cards or tracing individual IP addresses. Much more money in it.

I'm no expert, I just read the news, : 

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[scutty brown]

Surely the main problem with this change isn't security.
It's simply the sheer PITA buggeration factor of having to jump through another hoop when you're trying to contact a girl quickly without the wife catching you. It's a delay in the chain.
It's going to result in a lot of blokes thinking "fuck that, can't be arsed" and giving up - probably going to the pub or bookies instead.
Accept the fact: for a lot of blokes using one e-mail account is hard. The concept of a second dummy account is a lot harder for them to grasp, and they won't think of it themselves.

[Jiimmy]

Since last week or so, the AW seems to have updated their website, which now requires one to register and login to get contact details of the SPs  . Seems like they shot themselves in the leg and more traffic would move to Vivastreet. 
Not every time punter would have time to login to get contact details of the SPs, it could be too time consuming and some may also not be comfortable registering and giving away email ids etc. I know most of us have a separate emails / phones etc for punting, but I still feel this now adds one more unnecessary and useless step. I am definitely not gonna register and would depend on Vivastreet or Gumtree for fun.

[GingerNuts]

Do you think this only affects London and no one else noticed for nearly a week?

AW escort phone numbers now only visible to registered AW members

[Chris1990mcr]

Wonder how many have been on AW without an account, just thought loads of numbers aren’t showing and sacked off the search.

[Strawberry]

Which should have shown in my Preston search
Just shows the site isn't fit for purpose

I didn't notice Preston on the list, I would have chosen that. Just tried to change but location changes are only allowed once every 30 days.

[scutty brown]

I didn't notice Preston on the list, I would have chosen that. Just tried to change but location changes are only allowed once every 30 days.

Ulverston Kendal and Lancaster are all on the search list

[scutty brown]

I didn't notice Preston on the list, I would have chosen that. Just tried to change but location changes are only allowed once every 30 days.

One location change per month isn't much use for tourists

[Strawberry]

Ulverston Kendal and Lancaster are all on the search list

I could not see any of those on the location menu presented within my profile dashboard. I will contact Tryst.

[deek12345]

Let us suppose some state sponsored hackers (most of whom are a little bit cleverer than we UKP/AW punters) hack accounts of 20,000 punters on a site (those NOT computer savvy enough to cover their tracks).

They email them ransomware that infects and locks their computers (yes!! it CAN be and is done all the time) and remove all their pc content unless they pay say £1,000 to the hackers. Half pay up. They get £10million.

People are mixing up the issues.
Is it less easy now to use AW ?
Will a punter's info always be secure
Can a hacker get past "fake" emails ?
Will hackers bother.?

Anyone who thinks that to even raise these questions is "paranoid" or "alarmist" needs a moment of quiet contemplation and a bit of background reading.

Most people would use their normal email to go onto secretemail.com...to start their unique "fake" account, to use on AW, leaving a trail straight back to their own email account, if anyone can be bothered to look for it.

FFS, these guys can get into the Pentagon and Fort Knox computers. When the Pentagon's scared, brother I'm scared (or maybe I'm just paranoid).
 

[alabama1]

Let us suppose some state sponsored hackers (most of whom are a little bit cleverer than we UKP/AW punters) hack accounts of 20,000 punters on a site (those NOT computer savvy enough to cover their tracks).

They email them ransomware that infects and locks their computers (yes!! it CAN be and is done all the time) and remove all their pc content unless they pay say £1,000 to the hackers. Half pay up. They get £10million.

People are mixing up the issues.
Is it less easy now to use AW ?
Will a punter's info always be secure
Can a hacker get past "fake" emails ?
Will hackers bother.?

Anyone who thinks that to even raise these questions is "paranoid" or "alarmist" needs a moment of quiet contemplation and a bit of background reading.

Most people would use their normal email to go onto secretemail.com...to start their unique "fake" account, to use on AW, leaving a trail straight back to their own email account, if anyone can be bothered to look for it.

FFS, these guys can get into the Pentagon and Fort Knox computers. When the Pentagon's scared, brother I'm scared (or maybe I'm just paranoid).

If they can get into The Pentagon, then being "computer savvy" is not gonna save you is it 

[deek12345]

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Yep..u r right

I'm not computer savvy at all..I just read the papers.

[alabama1]

reply to alabama

Yep..u r right

I'm not computer savvy at all..I just read the papers.

I wasn't referring to you specifically, but everyone in general. 

[deek12345]

Somebody should have told CyberEye that all they needed was a fake email address, and that would have stopped these Russians.

i hope this event won't make CyberEye 'paranoid' or "alarmist"

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[Moby Dick]

Let us suppose some state sponsored hackers (most of whom are a little bit cleverer than we UKP/AW punters) hack accounts of 20,000 punters on a site (those NOT computer savvy enough to cover their tracks).

They email them ransomware that infects and locks their computers (yes!! it CAN be and is done all the time) and remove all their pc content unless they pay say £1,000 to the hackers. Half pay up. They get £10million.

People are mixing up the issues.
Is it less easy now to use AW ?
Will a punter's info always be secure
Can a hacker get past "fake" emails ?
Will hackers bother.?

Anyone who thinks that to even raise these questions is "paranoid" or "alarmist" needs a moment of quiet contemplation and a bit of background reading.

Most people would use their normal email to go onto secretemail.com...to start their unique "fake" account, to use on AW, leaving a trail straight back to their own email account, if anyone can be bothered to look for it.

FFS, these guys can get into the Pentagon and Fort Knox computers. When the Pentagon's scared, brother I'm scared (or maybe I'm just paranoid).

Earlier comments about you being paranoid are just.