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Shamima Begum has reformed

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Didn't realise that makeovers were available in refugee camps !

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Offline Rick2468

Haha convenient timing given the recent court ruling!

Editted: got political so removed text.
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Offline David1970

Haha convenient timing given the recent court ruling!

Personally I think UK were wrong to strip her of citizenship. She did an awful thing but she was born and raised here so she's our problem she should be punished here. I think the Home Secretary was trying to score some popularity points ahead of his failed leadership attempt.

Shamima Begum is certainly having a shit time of it at the moment!

Moving into political and religious territory

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Fooling nobody. What's that old saying about leopards and spots?.....

Offline Private Parts

Put a terrorist in a dress.
They are Still a terrorist
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What terrorist act was she convicted for out of interest?
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Probably should have posted it in this thread  :D

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=276534.0

did think about putting the picture on that or the Asian thread

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What terrorist act was she convicted for out of interest?
Nothing yet. I'm quite happy for her to return and face trail back here.

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What terrorist act was she convicted for out of interest?

She hasn't been convicted of any, she would be if she came back but she can't. How unlucky for her.
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If she had to turn to escorting to get by I'd do her.

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She hasn't been convicted of any, she would be if she came back but she can't. How unlucky for her.

So she is guilty already? Prior to a trial?

Wow, the moral high ground on a punting site....
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So she is guilty already? Prior to a trial?

Wow, the moral high ground on a punting site....

Of course she is guilty, she left the UK to fight for a terrorist group, married a terrorist and now all her kids and husband are dead she wants back in the UK, I don't think it should be allowed she is a threat to the UK, but there are too many do gooders and snowflakes in this country who thinks she has a right to be here but they forget she gave up that right when she went to fight and support a terrorist organisation
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No I wouldn't... sorry thought that was going to be the question!

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So she is guilty already? Prior to a trial?

Wow, the moral high ground on a punting site....

So people that punt have no morals how odd.
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Offline lewisjones23

Of course she is guilty, she left the UK to fight for a terrorist group, married a terrorist and now all her kids and husband are dead she wants back in the UK, I don't think it should be allowed she is a threat to the UK, but there are too many do gooders and snowflakes in this country who thinks she has a right to be here but they forget she gave up that right when she went to fight and support a terrorist organisation

What did this person get banned for if their post is correct?

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So people that punt have no morals how odd.

No, just surprised you can place yourself as judge, jury and executioner. No one knows the full story here, but you have convicted her already. Well done you, but your shit smells of roses too....
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What did this person get banned for if their post is correct?

I think the comment refers to this post: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=277126.msg3146163#msg3146163

The twat got another post out before Kev40ish banned him.



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What did this person get banned for if their post is correct?
Apologies I have changed the banning reason..  :hi:

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No, just surprised you can place yourself as judge, jury and executioner. No one knows the full story here, but you have convicted her already. Well done you, but your shit smells of roses too....

Im pretty sure she'll be found guilty just based on her own admissions during interview. Aiding and abetting terrorist organisations for example.
I'd also like those that have returned under the radar to face court proceedings also :hi:

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I do not mind her facing justice, but that is my point, she should be allowed to face it (and the consequences if guilty) rather then us washing our hands of her on the basis of press reports, that is a very dangerous and slippery road to go down. IMHO
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I do not mind her facing justice, but that is my point, she should be allowed to face it (and the consequences if guilty) rather then us washing our hands of her on the basis of press reports, that is a very dangerous and slippery road to go down. IMHO
Agreed completely. If she can get her arse back, she can be arrested and face trial.
In my opinion, she is a product of her environment, as we all are :hi:

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Agreed completely. If she can get her arse back, she can be arrested and face trial.
In my opinion, she is a product of her environment, as we all are :hi:

 100% agree, I would still smash her too if she needed a contribution to the legal fees...
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Shamima Begum has reformed

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Didn't realise that makeovers were available in refugee camps !

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The only thing I need to know about this treacherous cunt is in her first TV interview after being found in the camp she said she wasn't bothered by seeing severed heads in buckets. Of course she was in IS dress then. :rolleyes: This in my view was her real views uncensored and crucially before the lawyers and human rights brigade got to her and used their PR spin. Like telling her change into western clothing as it will help with her image. :rolleyes:

I don't care about her age at the time, she fucked this country off to go to become an IS bride, she knew fully well they were murdering scumbags. She still chose to go and for ME that equals she made her bed and fuck her, she can sleep in it. I also don't care what happens to her, she is human filth not worthy of me spending time concerned about her rights. My sympathy is for those her beloved IS murdered and their family and friends.

I hope she is never let back into the UK and if she ends up in some hell hole somewhere she would only have herself to blame. Perhaps she might reflect on the decision to put IS before her country of birth. She is no Brit in my eyes now, she is a traitor to my way of life which is very far from perfect but far better than what IS had as their vision. Its for a court to decide ultimately what happens to her, we shall see what they decide. If let back in no doubt the tax payer will foot the huge bill to protect her identity for life, give her a place to live and maybe a job. :rolleyes:

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So. Not mincing your words Smiths
Good man
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Offline tintin100

Pretty sure she can still appeal. She is a UK born and does not hold any other passports, under international law she cannot be stateless. She obviously made a grave error at 15. All I can say is wait and see and probably will cost the tax payer more money.

Offline winkywanky

;)
So people that punt have no morals how odd.


Yes, but she is still innocent until proven guilty.

Offline winkywanky

What did this person get banned for if their post is correct?


The post isn't correct, she cannot be 'guilty' until tried and found to be so in a British court. I have little sympathy for her (well OK, a little, she was 15 at the time) but nevertheless she is innocent until proven guilty.

Offline winkywanky

Apologies I have changed the banning reason..  :hi:


Kev, please don't apologise for banning someone who thoroughly deserved it  :hi:

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The only thing I need to know about this treacherous cunt is in her first TV interview after being found in the camp she said she wasn't bothered by seeing severed heads in buckets. Of course she was in IS dress then. :rolleyes: This in my view was her real views uncensored and crucially before the lawyers and human rights brigade got to her and used their PR spin. Like telling her change into western clothing as it will help with her image. :rolleyes:

I don't care about her age at the time, she fucked this country off to go to become an IS bride, she knew fully well they were murdering scumbags. She still chose to go and for ME that equals she made her bed and fuck her, she can sleep in it. I also don't care what happens to her, she is human filth not worthy of me spending time concerned about her rights. My sympathy is for those her beloved IS murdered and their family and friends.

I hope she is never let back into the UK and if she ends up in some hell hole somewhere she would only have herself to blame. Perhaps she might reflect on the decision to put IS before her country of birth. She is no Brit in my eyes now, she is a traitor to my way of life which is very far from perfect but far better than what IS had as their vision. Its for a court to decide ultimately what happens to her, we shall see what they decide. If let back in no doubt the tax payer will foot the huge bill to protect her identity for life, give her a place to live and maybe a job. :rolleyes:

another man who uses the c word for no reason.

Offline winkywanky

another man who uses the c word for no reason.


If you wanted enough of a reason to apply the word cunt to a woman, joining ISIS and knowing full well what that entailed might well be one of them.

Offline willie loman

its really a legal decision, to an ordinary man its clear that she is still actually british. i note that australia for one has sent  adult nutcases back to britain, as they considered them to be still british even when they has left here as children.
Good example of aussie humour if nothing else.

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If you wanted enough of a reason to apply the word cunt to a woman, joining ISIS and knowing full well what that entailed might well be one of them.

there is never a reason to use the c word, its like the n word, if you need that explained there is no hope for you.

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king nuts, smiths , now you like using the c word, case closed i think.

Offline Blackpool Rock

Pretty sure she can still appeal. She is a UK born and does not hold any other passports, under international law she cannot be stateless. She obviously made a grave error at 15. All I can say is wait and see and probably will cost the tax payer more money.
Correct however -

How do you lose your citizenship?
In the UK, someone can have their citizenship stripped by the home secretary, for the following reasons:

It is "for the public good" and would not make them stateless
The person obtained citizenship through fraud
Their actions could harm UK interests and they can claim citizenship elsewhere
Ms Begum was stripped of her citizenship for the public good reason.

The UK has responsibilities under international law to avoid people being left stateless. But in February 2020, a tribunal ruled that removing Ms Begum's citizenship was lawful because she was "a citizen of Bangladesh by descent"


Have to say I agree with Smiths post on this and don't think she should be allowed to set foot back in the country as once she's back on British soil we'll never get rid of her whatever the ruling is

Imagine she's allowed back -
UK tax payer stump up for her flight etc
Guess who then pays for her legal fees
Some smart lawyer then argues that she was only 15 and didn't know what she was doing, moreover she's actually a victim and it's somehow the fault of the UK Govt
Obviously she now deserves a few Million compo etc etc

Let her fester like a cockroach in some shitty camp as a direct result of the choices she made, reap what you sow  :drinks:

Offline Blackpool Rock

there is never a reason to use the c word, its like the n word, if you need that explained there is no hope for you.
I agree that the C word is strong however if used very infrequently then it demonstrates the strength of feeling on a particular issue therefore i'd say it's justified.
I'm not sure how you manage to link it to the N word though as they bear no comparison

Offline winkywanky

there is never a reason to use the c word, its like the n word, if you need that explained there is no hope for you.

Loving your judgment there willie.

Tell you what, why don't you go and spout some more inaccurate drivel on the Vaccine thread, or perhaps even say again, how you think legalising the supply of heroin would be a good idea?

Another couple of willie 'classics'. Twat.

Offline winkywanky

I agree that the C word is strong however if used very infrequently then it demonstrates the strength of feeling on a particular issue therefore i'd say it's justified.
I'm not sure how you manage to link it to the N word though as they bear no comparison


Clearly willie thinks he is above ever using such a word.

Offline tynetunnel

Correct however -

How do you lose your citizenship?
In the UK, someone can have their citizenship stripped by the home secretary, for the following reasons:

It is "for the public good" and would not make them stateless
The person obtained citizenship through fraud
Their actions could harm UK interests and they can claim citizenship elsewhere
Ms Begum was stripped of her citizenship for the public good reason.

The UK has responsibilities under international law to avoid people being left stateless. But in February 2020, a tribunal ruled that removing Ms Begum's citizenship was lawful because she was "a citizen of Bangladesh by descent"


Have to say I agree with Smiths post on this and don't think she should be allowed to set foot back in the country as once she's back on British soil we'll never get rid of her whatever the ruling is

Imagine she's allowed back -
UK tax payer stump up for her flight etc
Guess who then pays for her legal fees
Some smart lawyer then argues that she was only 15 and didn't know what she was doing, moreover she's actually a victim and it's somehow the fault of the UK Govt
Obviously she now deserves a few Million compo etc etc

Let her fester like a cockroach in some shitty camp as a direct result of the choices she made, reap what you sow  :drinks:

Absolutely this  :thumbsup:

Offline winkywanky

king nuts, smiths , now you like using the c word, case closed i think.


You do like lumping in people together, in a convenient little box where you can throw mud at them, don't you willie?

It might surprise you to know that I agree with some of what they say, sometimes, and sometimes disagree...hell, I even agree with what you say sometimes  :lol:. People have opinions which don't always fit into convenient boxes willie, if you had half an ounce of intellect, you would know that.

So anyway, on the basis of your own measurement scale, I'm currently putting you in a box with JRC. The label on the box says: strong opinions, based on few facts and pretty well no coherent reasoning. You can climb out of the box any time you like, it's entirely up to you  :unknown:.

Offline willie loman

she was stripped of her citizenship to appease the public rage, she has never been a threat to britain. 

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You do like lumping in people together, in a convenient little box where you can throw mud at them, don't you willie?

It might surprise you to know that I agree with some of what they say, sometimes, and sometimes disagree...hell, I even agree with what you say sometimes  :lol:. People have opinions which don't always fit into convenient boxes willie, if you had half an ounce of intellect, you would know that.

So anyway, on the basis of your own measurement scale, I'm currently putting you in a box with JRC. The label on the box says: strong opinions, based on few facts and pretty well no coherent reasoning. You can climb out of the box any time you like, it's entirely up to you  :unknown:.
objecting to provocative use of offensive terms, is not throwing mud, its actually making a principled stand.

Offline winkywanky

Correct however -

How do you lose your citizenship?
In the UK, someone can have their citizenship stripped by the home secretary, for the following reasons:

It is "for the public good" and would not make them stateless
The person obtained citizenship through fraud
Their actions could harm UK interests and they can claim citizenship elsewhere
Ms Begum was stripped of her citizenship for the public good reason.

The UK has responsibilities under international law to avoid people being left stateless. But in February 2020, a tribunal ruled that removing Ms Begum's citizenship was lawful because she was "a citizen of Bangladesh by descent"


Have to say I agree with Smiths post on this and don't think she should be allowed to set foot back in the country as once she's back on British soil we'll never get rid of her whatever the ruling is

Imagine she's allowed back -
UK tax payer stump up for her flight etc
Guess who then pays for her legal fees
Some smart lawyer then argues that she was only 15 and didn't know what she was doing, moreover she's actually a victim and it's somehow the fault of the UK Govt
Obviously she now deserves a few Million compo etc etc

Let her fester like a cockroach in some shitty camp as a direct result of the choices she made, reap what you sow  :drinks:


Personally, this troubles me somewhat. Can any of us think back to how we thought when we were 15yrs old? How impressionable we were?

Back to the present day, and I guess it boils down to whether she still thinks the same way as she did then, and therefore would she be a big problem here, perhaps encouraging others to do the same? Or would she simply disappear into a somewhat mediocre but normal life, ultimately being a productive/contributing member of society?

Offline winkywanky

objecting to provocative use of offensive terms, is not throwing mud, its actually making a principled stand.


Let me say willie, WHAT you say is FAR more offensive than how you say it. Can you undertsand that simple principle?

Offline winkywanky

she was stripped of her citizenship to appease the public rage, she has never been a threat to britain.


I would say strong possibility of that.

Doesn't make her any less of a cunt for joining ISIS though. And if you had a relative who was beheaded into a bucket, perhaps you might feel the same, who knows  :unknown:.

But then again, because you know no one who died of Covid and you have a couple of (perhaps imaginary) friends who work in hospitals, you seem to think the whole pandemic response is bogus and trumped up.

Why don't you stop considering only your own little circle, and thinking it represents the whole world? The sheer arrogance of it  :dash:.

Offline Blackpool Rock

she was stripped of her citizenship to appease the public rage, she has never been a threat to britain.
Aren't there laws in the UK though about collective guilt / responsibility etc  :unknown:

So if a 15 year old boy is part of a gang and they go round stabbing people he can also be deemed guilty even if he's never touched the knife

When you run with a pack of dogs be prepared to get bitten  :hi:

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Personally, this troubles me somewhat. Can any of us think back to how we thought when we were 15yrs old? How impressionable we were?

Back to the present day, and I guess it boils down to whether she still thinks the same way as she did then, and therefore would she be a big problem here, perhaps encouraging others to do the same? Or would she simply disappear into a somewhat mediocre but normal life, ultimately being a productive/contributing member of society?
Impressionable yes but I knew right from wrong and if I wasn't happy about something I was being pressured into then I distanced myself from those people