Pretty negative points!
Of course everyone punts for themselves but there is a real incentive to try and reduce/moderate prices for all of us. As in any walk of life when selling something, those selling want the best return and those buying want to pay less and a variety of factors come into play to set rates including reviews and the belief that a number of punters here are honest.
Tontober has worked previously and there are other examples of punters working together as well.
I also know from my experience this site has made me much more aware of what value is and what a fair going rate is to pay wg's as well as service etc.
Power to the punters
What you see as negative I see as being the real punting world outside UKP. I said Tontober is a good idea and I have and still praise Cueball and TCM who brought it up as a concept.
My overall point is in London anyway and in my area of it specifically I know how the market works, I have been punting in it for over 35 years. It wont be changed by punters on here. If some choose to think it will thats up to them. There are far too many punters who wont know about UKP, far too many foreign punters here on business, far too many who punt through agencies some of whom have been going for years which tells me they get punters even at the ridiculous to me prices they charge.
What actually often happens is a WG gets a number of positive reviews on here and then in my experience often then becomes much harder to book as suits me, and some then put their prices up to cash in while they can. All great for the WG concerned, terrible for me. As 1 example, Ameera who I punted with early on in her getting reviews on UKP was easy to book initially as suited me, a number of reviews later she was virtually impossible to book to suit me. And she was never a regular of mine so when she put her prices up a while later I would of had to pay them which I decided not to do. She cashed in big time off the back of UKP as did Michelle Independent who for a long time when based in Chingford area was £100 an hour, some reviews later her prices went up and she moved to Kensington area when in London, or at least that was where she worked from for a while, at £20-40 an hour more.
So the reality in my observations is getting positive reviews can be amazing for a WGs business but not for me. Which is why I may only now do a positive review once I have had the fill of a WG so wont be returning. And another thing with some of these forum darling WGs is they also start demanding punters jump through their hoops having to have A/W feedback for instance. Not a game I play, I am after a punt NOT going for a job interview.
So good for the idealists on here to post their views, I shall stick to the realism of what I know from experience. And in practice in my case I often punt at or around the £100-120 an hour mark, I will pay more dependent on the WG but have often paid less. Certainly prices in my area have gone up on average in the last couple of years no doubt about that. EE WGs who were £60-90 an hour before may be £100-120 or more an hour now.