WG Putting Prices Up

[jesse4585]

Whats wrong with you that a girl is taking a risk meeting you? 

Maybe I'm so good at sex there's a chance of them getting EAS & then heartbroken.   

[jesse4585]

Same goes for police officers, or traffic wardens, security guards and all sorts. Thet get paid pittens and they could be dead at the end of any shift.

This job only solicitors and some accountants make as much and they need to achieve AAB in A-Levels and go to university for at least 4 years to just become the bottom of the rung ladder for.

Yeah fair enough, I'm sure I'm in the minority on this.

The way I see it, deciding what's a fair rate for a WG is quite a complex thing. Maybe you have a better handle on it than me. I agree the armed forces, police officers, security guards etc get paid too little.

With much of the professions you mention though, hard work is its own reward, in addition to the financial compensation. They're vocations at least for some, with relatively high job satisfaction. To be fair so is being a sex worker, that scores above average on at least one recent study.

But that's only the average. In quite a few cases WG's seem hate their job, or at least certain sessions with bad clients, only doing it out of desperation. WG's take risks to their physical & sexual health, and then theres the risk of social stigma even after they've retired. Much of this doesn't apply to the other occupations you mention. And while some WGs seem to be happy in the job for decades, it's seem much more common for them to burn out after only a couple of years, compared to lawyers and accountants.

Anyhow Im probably not going to reply more on this as it might be going off topic. But it is an interesting issue.

[smiths]

It's great in theory but would never happen, you could never get every punter to support it. All we can do is make our feelings known and do what we can as individuals and maybe boycott the one's who increase prices.

Indeed, which has been my point of course. And you will never know as you cant know whether a punter who posts on here he is boycotting a WG who has increased her prices actually has boycotted her. Posting on here and what a punter does could be 2 entirely different things for all anyone would know as fact.

Punters can elect to stick to Tontober WGs of course, and good luck to them. I tell you what I do, I stick to WGs whose rates I am prepared to pay for an hour or 2, if she becomes a reg I haggle on longer bookings BUT I am not stupid, I don't mention that on here and possibly cut my own throat.

[finn5555]

Fairly high rates are well deserved by WG's IMO,  considering the risks they take

What a totally ridiculous statement 

[cunningman]

What a totally ridiculous statement 

Why?

If I work as a contractor I can do 8 straight hours (OK, lunch break in there too), just one client, no cost of sales once I'm in, no 'in between' downtime through the day.

I suspect some of the more fucked-up-in-the-synapse-department round here including finn and james think life is like that for an SP given the drivel they spout.

I really think its not - we all whinge about back to back girls and a production line.  We like girls that seem to have had at least a half hour off to recover and shower, and that answer their own phones for bookings, and can see us when we want rather than when they can 'slot us in'.  It just adds up to a high rate that's smeared over a longer period.

So - why?

Can we have a coherent answer instead of the usual one-line throwaway BS that you normally post?  and let's face it, you post a lot of one-line-BS.

[Steely Dan]

What actually often happens is a WG gets a number of positive reviews on here and then in my experience often then becomes much harder to book as suits me, and some then put their prices up to cash in while they can. All great for the WG concerned, terrible for me. As 1 example, Ameera who I punted with early on in her getting reviews on UKP was easy to book initially as suited me, a number of reviews later she was virtually impossible to book to suit me. And she was never a regular of mine so when she put her prices up a while later I would of had to pay them which I decided not to do. She cashed in big time off the back of UKP as did Michelle Independent who for a long time when based in Chingford area was £100 an hour, some reviews later her prices went up and she moved to Kensington area when in London, or at least that was where she worked from for a while, at £20-40 an hour more.

Some good and some very good posts here (after I got through the tax bullshit ... though a tad amusing I admit).

Anyway, the above (v.g. post) suggests that UKP can have an effect on escorts rates. I happen to believe this. I was suggesting to the OP (who buggered off I know), and others, that he try a girl who is Tontober compliant.  I have no argument or data to prove this helps bring rates down.  But maybe it helps... a little anyway.

My ignored questions was (and is), what's the worst that can happen?

Today I fucked a girl who was Tontober (silver) compliant, and it was an awesome fuck.  I didn't do this for anyone but me. But Tontober made me think of booking her.  Good hot sex, cash left in my pocket.

[smiths]

Some good and some very good posts here (after I got through the tax bullshit ... though a tad amusing I admit).

Anyway, the above (v.g. post) suggests that UKP can have an effect on escorts rates. I happen to believe this. I was suggesting to the OP (who buggered off I know), and others, that he try a girl who is Tontober compliant.  I have no argument or data to prove this helps bring rates down.  But maybe it helps... a little anyway.

My ignored questions was (and is), what's the worst that can happen?

Today I fucked a girl who was Tontober (silver) compliant, and it was an awesome fuck.  I didn't do this for anyone but me. But Tontober made me think of booking her.  Good hot sex, cash left in my pocket.

Indeed, and since the 1st of October I have punted with a WG who charged me £90 for the hour, review already done previously, that is her normal rate at present. I also thought of Tontober but more so that I was going to be near her anyway.

There is no downside to Tontober.

[Steve2]

There is no downside to Tontober.

Spot on mate.

There are enough girls about who charge £100/hr or less and provide a very good service

[LLPunting]

What a totally ridiculous statement 

Take a long look at yourself in the mirror, resist the urge to toss yourself off, and ask mother how much a half decent woman would want to be paid to have sex with you for 30 mins.

[Beamer]

What a totally ridiculous statement 

Why? Can you explain please?

[bobby1973]

i never pay over £100 for the hour
there's loads of girls out there in my area charging £150+
i just put 100 max in my search and that's it easy
if there's no one i want to see then i save my money and have a wank
but there's always someone there if you look hard enough 

[finn5555]

Take a long look at yourself in the mirror, resist the urge to toss yourself off, and ask mother how much a half decent woman would want to be paid to have sex with you for 30 mins.

Hit a nerve did I 

[finn5555]

Why? Can you explain please?

Why should they be paid more due to risks taken is my main point, what a load of bollocks 

Pros$ies can charge what they want from £100 an hour to £1000 an hour I don’t really care at the end of the day it’s their choice, I know how much I’m prepared to pay, and of course higher prices doesn’t equal better service 

[freeze44]

i never pay over £100 for the hour
there's loads of girls out there in my area charging £150+
i just put 100 max in my search and that's it easy
if there's no one i want to see then i save my money and have a wank
but there's always someone there if you look hard enough 

Is that for fs or massage? I've had some fs punts at £100 ph but there pretty rare for what I like.

Massage with hj etc are easy to find at under £100 ph.

[Jian_Cheng]

They put their prices up because people will still pay it.
It's true of any business.
Moaning to them about it won't get you any discounts. The only way to save money is not to pay them at all.

Inflation, C.L.Index and market forces 

There are bargain bucket SP's many of them..but like with most everything, you get what you pay for 

[James999]

Maybe I'm so good at sex there's a chance of them getting EAS & then heartbroken. 

Odd that ou talk about being a danger to Pro$sies and when asked to elaborate you decide it's a joking matter 

[James999]

Inflation, C.L.Index and market forces 

There are bargain bucket SP's many of them..but like with most everything, you get what you pay for 

Are you a Pro$sie 

[scutty brown]

Inflation, C.L.Index and market forces 

There are bargain bucket SP's many of them..but like with most everything, you get what you pay for 

In most cases you don't get what you paid for................and price does not correlate to service or quality

[finn5555]

In most cases you don't get what you paid for................and price does not correlate to service or quality

Exactly many over value themselves and deliver a shit service

[Jian_Cheng]

Exactly many over value themselves and deliver a shit service

 

Exactly so if as the OP  1 hour for $ 80 you know what you're going to get   

[Beamer]

Why should they be paid more due to risks taken is my main point, what a load of bollocks 

Pros$ies can charge what they want from £100 an hour to £1000 an hour I don’t really care at the end of the day it’s their choice, I know how much I’m prepared to pay, and of course higher prices doesn’t equal better service 

As in any business the price should reflect the costs and margin expectations of the service provided.
SP's who don't follow the simple rules of supply and (especially) demand deserve to have a dusty phone.
We all have our limits on price and service, if SP's don't acknowledge that they won't be around for long.

[blend57]

What is being argued for is a consumer boycott of prostitutes. Boycotts only tend to work if there is a single target (i.e. a large corporation) and it is possible to mobilise enough of the customer base to engage in the boycott. Social media does help here but UKP hardly qualifies as a widely used social media platform. You would need Twitter and Facebook to organise a successful boycott. It could also bring unwanted attention from the non-punting world.

[James999]

Exactly so if as the OP  1 hour for $ 80 you know what you're going to get   

Again..................

Are you a Pro$sie 

[scutty brown]

Exactly so if as the OP  1 hour for $ 80 you know what you're going to get   

WTF are you on about? The whole point is you DON'T know what you're going to get.

[tesla]

Inflation, C.L.Index and market forces 

There are bargain bucket SP's many of them..but like with most everything, you get what you pay for 

total bollocks, I have been punting for 40 years and price has no relevance to service delivered,

some of my best punts have been in very down market parlours and some have been independents
like wise my worst punts have been in down market parlours and independents

[smiths]

Inflation, C.L.Index and market forces 

There are bargain bucket SP's many of them..but like with most everything, you get what you pay for 

What a load of shit, I most certainly DONT necessarily get what I pay for when punting. Punting isnt the same as buying an inanimate object, whether I get a good service off a WG depends on her attitude NOT what she happens to charge.

And its been proved by countless reviews on here and my own personal experience that price is NO indicator in punting, you clearly haven't read UKP. Where DO you people come from, and by that I mean the clueless who don't know how punting works.

[freeze44]

What a load of shit, I most certainly DONT necessarily get what I pay for when punting. Punting isnt the same as buying an inanimate object, whether I get a good service off a WG depends on her attitude NOT what she happens to charge.

And its been proved by countless reviews on here and my own personal experience that price is NO indicator in punting, you clearly haven't read UKP. Where DO you people come from, and by that I mean the clueless who don't know how punting works.

+1...this one been making stupid posts in other parts...another idiot returner? 

[blend57]

The problem with this hobby is that everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a good punt. Whilst the reviews on this board are useful they do not guarantee that you will have a good punt with a WG. A WG can have 100 positive reviews here but when you visit you could have a crap time.

It is called punting for a reason.

[Mallow841]

The problem with this hobby is that everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a good punt. Whilst the reviews on this board are useful they do not guarantee that you will have a good punt with a WG. A WG can have 100 positive reviews here but when you visit you could have a crap time.

It is called punting for a reason.

Very good points.
Although I’d say having 100 reviews means you’re more likely to get good service over bad than if the escort had no reviews for example. But it’s still not guaranteed.

[Payyourwaymate]

Fairly high rates are well deserved by WG's IMO,  considering the risks they take, how much  pleasure they give, etc.

Not really, I think most of the time, they are just charging what they think they can get away with.  If you are talking about a WG that puts her prices that cover her costs, whilst also trying to deliver a good value for money service and also leaving her with extra cash as profit, then maybe so...However, in most circumstances, that overpriced WG you see on AW charging £200+ for no real reason is most likely that.... overpriced  .

The risk they take is not that high when truly independent; I mean, they can pick who they choose to see, refuses to see someone if they do not like the look of him before he even comes in, have a list of do's and do not's, ask for deposits, call the police as a last resort and punters still comply. The risk they manage is more controlled.  If anything the punter may be more at risk venturing into an unknown area at a random time which could be a setup, getting blackmailed if he has a wife, getting outed, paying all that money and getting shit in return, getting scammed, bait and switched, the list could go on  .  As for the pleasure they give corresponding to what they charge, I'm sure we all know by now that the price charged and pleasure received does not correlate, at all.

[ulstersubbie]

The problem with this hobby is that everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a good punt. Whilst the reviews on this board are useful they do not guarantee that you will have a good punt with a WG. A WG can have 100 positive reviews here but when you visit you could have a crap time.

It is called punting for a reason.

Yes, every punter is different I suppose, 100 positive reviews on UKP would hopefully mean quality but the 101st punter might think otherwise. As for prices, you choose to pay what the SP charges or you don't. Constantly moaning about pricing gets you nowhere, when I no longer want to pay the asking rate, I will simply stop punting.

[Moby Dick]

Fairly high rates are well deserved by WG's IMO,  considering the risks they take

Speak for yourself.
You must be a dodgy ugly fucker?
Nothing risky about seeing me, I’d even go as far as to say they look forward to seeing me

[Mallow841]

Not really, I think most of the time, they are just charging what they think they can get away with.  If you are talking about a WG that puts her prices that cover her costs, whilst also trying to deliver a good value for money service and also leaving her with extra cash as profit, then maybe so...However, in most circumstances, that overpriced WG you see on AW charging £200+ for no real reason is most likely that.... overpriced  .

The risk they take is not that high when truly independent; I mean, they can pick who they choose to see, refuses to see someone if they do not like the look of him before he even comes in, have a list of do's and do not's, ask for deposits, call the police as a last resort and punters still comply. The risk they manage is more controlled.  If anything the punter may be more at risk venturing into an unknown area at a random time which could be a setup, getting blackmailed if he has a wife, getting outed, paying all that money and getting shit in return, getting scammed, bait and switched, the list could go on  .  As for the pleasure they give corresponding to what they charge, I'm sure we all know by now that the price charged and pleasure received does not correlate, at all.

I don’t believe a punter is more at risk. Although we are not risk free that’s for sure.
Most WG’s will see a significant amount of men a day/week compared to a punter like me for example who maybe only punts once a week or a month.

From that, the risk is higher for the WG in regards to rape/sexual assault/stealthing and so on.
The more people she sees the more her risk may be increased, also services.
If she is barebacking punters her risk would be increased there too.

I agree price and service doesn’t correlate, I’ve had great bookings on the cheaper scales and rubbish ones at the more expensive scale, and vice versa.

If nobody was paying the rate on the profile they wouldn’t be able to charge it.

[Mallow841]

Speak for yourself.
You must be a dodgy ugly fucker?
Nothing risky about seeing me, I’d even go as far as to say they look forward to seeing me

Same. I’m a catch. 

[finn5555]

Same. I’m a catch. 

Something beginning with C possibly 

[blend57]

Not really, I think most of the time, they are just charging what they think they can get away with.  If you are talking about a WG that puts her prices that cover her costs, whilst also trying to deliver a good value for money service and also leaving her with extra cash as profit, then maybe so...However, in most circumstances, that overpriced WG you see on AW charging £200+ for no real reason is most likely that.... overpriced  .

I have always taken the view that whatever you see during the punt you  pay for. Condoms, toiletries in the shower, lubricants, clean towels and bedding (they do not wash themselves apparently)......anything the WG needs to conduct her business, you are paying for.

And there does not appear to be any correlation between how much stuff she has verses how much she charges. You might ask one WG if she has any toys and find that all she has is a couple of dildos. Ask the same question to another WG who charges the same and she will show you a sex shop in her wardrobe and ask you to be a bit more specific. You would think that the second one would need to charge more if only to cover the amount of batteries she would need, let along the shear capital outlay to buy all the toys.

[LLPunting]

Speak for yourself.
You must be a dodgy ugly fucker?
Nothing risky about seeing me, I’d even go as far as to say they look forward to seeing me

At least until they here your music or scope what's in your pants 

[LLPunting]

Hit a nerve did I 

Ah, deflection!  The ultimate affirmation.

[finn5555]

Ah, deflection!  The ultimate affirmation.

Not at all, just looking at your field reports I see you like the lower end of the market price wise so a bit hypocritical.... maybe you can’t afford the higher rates so you come across as all bitter and twisted 

[LLPunting]

I have always taken the view that whatever you see during the punt you  pay for. Condoms, toiletries in the shower, lubricants, clean towels and bedding (they do not wash themselves apparently)......anything the WG needs to conduct her business, you are paying for.

And there does not appear to be any correlation between how much stuff she has verses how much she charges. You might ask one WG if she has any toys and find that all she has is a couple of dildos. Ask the same question to another WG who charges the same and she will show you a sex shop in her wardrobe and ask you to be a bit more specific. You would think that the second one would need to charge more if only to cover the amount of batteries she would need, let along the shear capital outlay to buy all the toys.

Wrong!  Condoms can be had for free and girls do ask punters to get them (along with fags and drinks) from the shops on the way over (some girls reimburse).  Toiletries etc accumulate as they spend very little cash on such; one punt can provide for a week of that so why aren't the rest of the punters getting a discount?
The girls only buy things if they have the money, when was the last time you heard an SP talking about clawing back set-up costs?  Plenty of fluffy punters bring gifts whether consumables or outfits or toys.  Some girls have a side line in selling perfume and drink.  Chocolates stack up on shelves or get munched and lead to hefty weight gains.

[mrfishyfoo]

Some good and some very good posts here (after I got through the tax bullshit ... though a tad amusing I admit).

Anyway, the above (v.g. post) suggests that UKP can have an effect on escorts rates. I happen to believe this. I was suggesting to the OP (who buggered off I know), and others, that he try a girl who is Tontober compliant.  I have no argument or data to prove this helps bring rates down.  But maybe it helps... a little anyway.

My ignored questions was (and is), what's the worst that can happen?

Today I fucked a girl who was Tontober (silver) compliant, and it was an awesome fuck.  I didn't do this for anyone but me. But Tontober made me think of booking her. Good hot sex, cash left in my pocket.

Exactly !!! 

I Take One For Me TOFM not anyone else.

BUT and as a member of this community I chose to get involved and make an effort as collectively we can make a difference.

BUT if I want to fuck a lass that charges £1000ph I will as it's got fuck all to do with anyone how I spend my hardearned money. I would then review that just like I would a £100ph punt.

[Mallow841]

Exactly !!! 

I Take One For Me TOFM not anyone else.

BUT and as a member of this community I chose to get involved and make an effort as collectively we can make a difference.

BUT if I want to fuck a lass that charges £1000ph I will as it's got fuck all to do with anyone how I spend my hardearned money. I would then review that just like I would a £100ph punt.

 

[mrfishyfoo]

Agreed. I'm glad it won't be possible to get every punter to support.  Some reduction would be good, but if every punter signed up to a buying group the prices could be driven down too low. Fairly high rates are well deserved by WG's IMO,  considering the risks they take, how much  pleasure they give, etc.

That's one of the most retarded comments I've read in here for quite some time. 

[Gordon Bennett]

Just from a cost of living perspective £100 from 4 years ago would be worth £120ish today. Any tradesperson who is charging the same rates as 2015 would be taking quite a pay cut.
The only hope for us punters is market forces or supply and demand putting downward pressure on prices. The only part of the equation we can influence is demand..... Just punting a bit less often perhaps?

[Rochelle]

Wrong!  Condoms can be had for free and girls do ask punters to get them (along with fags and drinks) from the shops on the way over (some girls reimburse).  Toiletries etc accumulate as they spend very little cash on such; one punt can provide for a week of that so why aren't the rest of the punters getting a discount?
The girls only buy things if they have the money, when was the last time you heard an SP talking about clawing back set-up costs?  Plenty of fluffy punters bring gifts whether consumables or outfits or toys.  Some girls have a side line in selling perfume and drink.  Chocolates stack up on shelves or get munched and lead to hefty weight gains.

So most girls get free condoms? I certainly don't. Advertising for me is around £150 per month. There are also other costs.
The hourly rate may be high compared to many other jobs, but you have no idea how busy or quiet a girl is.
Last week I had 5 outcalls, two of them were booked quite a bit in advance. The nine or ten days prior I had zero.

[finn5555]

The nine or ten days prior I had zero.

The dildo took a hammering then 

[blend57]

Wrong!  Condoms can be had for free and girls do ask punters to get them (along with fags and drinks) from the shops on the way over (some girls reimburse).  Toiletries etc accumulate as they spend very little cash on such; one punt can provide for a week of that so why aren't the rest of the punters getting a discount?
The girls only buy things if they have the money, when was the last time you heard an SP talking about clawing back set-up costs?  Plenty of fluffy punters bring gifts whether consumables or outfits or toys.  Some girls have a side line in selling perfume and drink.  Chocolates stack up on shelves or get munched and lead to hefty weight gains.

Hold on a minute. Any business be it a plumber, electrician or a WG has set up costs, as well as on going costs. For the business to make money, those costs have to be covered otherwise the business is a loss making one that will fail and cease trading at some point in the future. Are you trying to say that WGs are a special kind of business that has no operating expenses?

[finn5555]

those costs have to be covered

Plumbers don't  charge £100 plus an hour 

[mrfishyfoo]

So most girls get free condoms? I certainly don't. Advertising for me is around £150 per month. There are also other costs.
The hourly rate may be high compared to many other jobs, but you have no idea how busy or quiet a girl is.
Last week I had 5 outcalls, two of them were booked quite a bit in advance. The nine or ten days prior I had zero.

That's your choice as even us punters get offered free condoms, if we want them, when we go to the GUM.

As for whores wages according to the twats that know this shite even a £100ph whore is getting nearly ×8ph more than what the UK average wage is per hour.

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If she sees one punter a day for one hour and only works 40 weeks a year that's still an average wage. 

[Rochelle]

That's your choice as even us punters get offered free condoms, if we want them, when we go to the GUM.

As for whores wages according to the twats that know this shite even a £100ph whore is getting nearly ×8ph more than what the UK average wage is per hour.

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If she sees one punter a day for one hour and only works 40 weeks a year that's still an average wage. 

My point was there are often times it's very quiet.