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[Barneypunt]

Yep, same.  Had a pretty decent evening with her.   

[sugardaddy0511]

So I saw a SB in 2022 with a ppm of 200 . She reconnected last month and we agreed on a date to meet . She wanted to confirm ppm and I said 250-300 ? She came back saying her rates are now much higher lol (her words ) this happens when some of us who have deeper pockets or are much more generous spend a lot more ! Some of them may see them only once like an escort but in that SBs mind she is worth a lot more and she limits the number of SD she can afford. I think 🤔 as SD on this forum we should be mindful of this when going over 500 per meet . However, each to their own , this is just a brotherly suggestion.

[southcoastpunter]

The other issue linked to this is that some SB’s vary their PPM considerably depending on who is asking - the more “appealing” the person ( younger, fitter etc) the less the PPM, the older and /or uglier you are the high PPM plus how they are at the time of asking!

[Barneypunt]

The other issue linked to this is that some SB’s vary their PPM considerably depending on who is asking - the more “appealing” the person ( younger, fitter etc) the less the PPM, the older and /or uglier you are the high PPM plus how they are at the time of asking!

This is very true

[sugardaddy0511]

The other issue linked to this is that some SB’s vary their PPM considerably depending on who is asking - the more “appealing” the person ( younger, fitter etc) the less the PPM, the older and /or uglier you are the high PPM plus how they are at the time of asking!

  fair enough however paying a lot of money does spoil them

[Punting2022]

Sb will also try and get as much as they can. So make any figures up. Someone accepts it bonus for them and it becomes the norm. If they get lots of rejects then likely to lower it. Jas listed isnt that attractive. Id only offer 300 for her. If she says no, plenty more on site.

If stunners are the 500 plus range. Not average gnd

[southcoastpunter]

  fair enough however paying a lot of money does spoil them

Oh I don’t disagree with you - but as I have said before on this thread , we have to remember that London is one of “THE” cities of the world and as such, we have a lot of rich guys living here or visiting here!

[bigden40]

The other issue linked to this is that some SB’s vary their PPM considerably depending on who is asking - the more “appealing” the person ( younger, fitter etc) the less the PPM, the older and /or uglier you are the high PPM plus how they are at the time of asking!

There are attributes other than youth, looks and money that come into this equation. 

[Barneypunt]

There are attributes other than youth, looks and money that come into this equation.

Hence the “etc”. No one said those were the only attributes. 

[southcoastpunter]

There are attributes other than youth, looks and money that come into this equation.

Yes. You are right

Hence the “etc”. No one said those were the only attributes. 

Yes , you are right- I did not try to list all the various factors that some girls will take into account! There are a fair number of them and it varies from girl to girl!

[Punting2022]

Sugar DADDY Meet is now 300 dollars for a month. Not worth it.
Best stick to Seeking

[koshkaj]

Yes , you are right- I did not try to list all the various factors that some girls will take into account! There are a fair number of them and it varies from girl to girl!

For the uninitiated who thought those were the only attributes that counted, could you list some additional ones? I have a friend who wants to know.

[Punting2022]

For the uninitiated who thought those were the only attributes that counted, could you list some additional ones? I have a friend who wants to know.

All depends on their mood too and at that time of the month how their finances are at a given time. If in a bad way at that time of month, they will prob try their luck with a higher figure.

Best thing is you set your max PPM budget. Stunners id usually say 450 to 600ppm. Afternoon together or Evening.

GND average girls 200 to 350,
If none meet your max budget. Just message someone else. Plenty on site

[Famy8989]

**SCAMMER**
I know I said I would stop contributing here but thought I’d let yous know so it can be prevented.

Nikola, Niko, Nicola, Nikola Mulczynska- External Link/Members Only

Met her at Salford the alchemist. Ate, had a good time (so I thought) until she headed to the toilet, she came back zoning out every couple of minutes and then snapping back to character. From another user on the site, I found out that she is a bit of a coke addict and she must have increased her usage since their meet. After our dinner, she faked her friend needing something from Nando’s, where the friend works. while we walked, she asked for money upfront, said it isn’t you she would just prefer it. I forgot to withdraw and I had no cash so I transferred (thankfully) like a dickhead. She was quite attractive and I thought surely it could not happen to me and she went in the Nando’s and didn’t come back out. She either left through the staff entrance or I have no clue.
Immediately contacted my bank, managed to recover 200/300 I transferred. Will contact the bank to ask why only 200. Not as jarring now that I got some money back but still what a waste of time and money.
Always put your ego aside and be careful. There are evil men and women who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire
Anyway, I’m left in Manchester heading back to London now haha. Wish me luck.

[Punting2022]

**SCAMMER**
I know I said I would stop contributing here but thought I’d let yous know so it can be prevented.

Nikola, Niko, Nicola, Nikola Mulczynska- External Link/Members Only

Met her at Salford the alchemist. Ate, had a good time (so I thought) until she headed to the toilet, she came back zoning out every couple of minutes and then snapping back to character. From another user on the site, I found out that she is a bit of a coke addict and she must have increased her usage since their meet. After our dinner, she faked her friend needing something from Nando’s, where the friend works. while we walked, she asked for money upfront, said it isn’t you she would just prefer it. I forgot to withdraw and I had no cash so I transferred (thankfully) like a dickhead. She was quite attractive and I thought surely it could not happen to me and she went in the Nando’s and didn’t come back out. She either left through the staff entrance or I have no clue.
Immediately contacted my bank, managed to recover 200/300 I transferred. Will contact the bank to ask why only 200. Not as jarring now that I got some money back but still what a waste of time and money.
Always put your ego aside and be careful. There are evil men and women who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire
Anyway, I’m left in Manchester heading back to London now haha. Wish me luck.

Good you got your cash back from Bank. What did you say to them BTW.
But the girl does have your real name too from Bank Transfer, so at risk maybe of her finding you

[Famy8989]

Good you got your cash back from Bank. What did you say to them BTW.
But the girl does have your real name too from Bank Transfer, so at risk maybe of her finding you

I’m not too fussed that she has my name. I have quite a common name, there’s not much she can do with it. I also know her full name anyway. I made a part truth to my banking app. So I said we met at a dating app (technically did) and that we had dinner. Once dinner was over, asked for £30 to help her friends for the food (rather than mentioning it was £300 for seeking) then I said she took my phone as I falsely trusted her and she input £300 on the app and “somehow magically” bypassed my phone Face ID and shut the phone off saying my battery died before going into the Nando’s. Once I turned the phone back on, by the time I saw £300 was transferred out she was gone. Bravo😂

[Illya Kurakin]

Been off and on with Seeking for ten years. Currently debating a return. But not sure they are not creating profiles to lure us back using AI.
Randomly I saw these two profiles next to each other in the London area (Newest). Tell me they are the same person. They even joined the same day! Not interested in either....

External Link/Members Only (Sam, 40)

and
External Link/Members Only (Grace 45).

[bigden40]

For the uninitiated who thought those were the only attributes that counted, could you list some additional ones? I have a friend who wants to know.

Wit, charm, a beard (seriously has several that explicitly wanted this), a nice voice, good conversation, knowledge or ability to mentor, there are some many things women want.

[Barneypunt]

Wit, charm, a beard (seriously has several that explicitly wanted this), a nice voice, good conversation, knowledge or ability to mentor, there are some many things women want.

Yup! My wit/charm is probably why I’ve never had to go over £250 for overnights.

Also agreed with the mentorship, I actually helped one of my past sbs get a job she really wanted lol

[koshkaj]

Wit, charm, a beard (seriously has several that explicitly wanted this), a nice voice, good conversation, knowledge or ability to mentor, there are some many things women want.

Hmm. Check, check, check, perhaps i should try my luck on seeking. 

[Punting2022]

Ive made a tinder profile. Put provider in description. Half the girls on seeking are there. 14.99 for gold sub. You can hide your profile and only girls who you like will see you. Worth a try rather then seekings 115 a month

[finn5555]

Ive made a tinder profile. Put provider in description. Half the girls on seeking are there. 14.99 for gold sub. You can hide your profile and only girls who you like will see you. Worth a try rather then seekings 115 a month

Taking your misogynistic approach towards women  there now? god help them 

[Punting2022]

Taking your misogynistic approach towards women  there now? god help them 

Again your opinion dont matter to me. Is also off topic to seeking. Here we are sharing seeking views and alternitives. Maybe you should make a new thread called misogynistic in off topic. Discuss all you want there. I also know top reporters is deffo you off post

[paul_tall_]

**SCAMMER**
I know I said I would stop contributing here but thought I’d let yous know so it can be prevented.

Nikola, Niko, Nicola, Nikola Mulczynska- External Link/Members Only

Met her at Salford the alchemist. Ate, had a good time (so I thought) until she headed to the toilet, she came back zoning out every couple of minutes and then snapping back to character. From another user on the site, I found out that she is a bit of a coke addict and she must have increased her usage since their meet. After our dinner, she faked her friend needing something from Nando’s, where the friend works. while we walked, she asked for money upfront, said it isn’t you she would just prefer it. I forgot to withdraw and I had no cash so I transferred (thankfully) like a dickhead. She was quite attractive and I thought surely it could not happen to me and she went in the Nando’s and didn’t come back out. She either left through the staff entrance or I have no clue.
Immediately contacted my bank, managed to recover 200/300 I transferred. Will contact the bank to ask why only 200. Not as jarring now that I got some money back but still what a waste of time and money.
Always put your ego aside and be careful. There are evil men and women who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire
Anyway, I’m left in Manchester heading back to London now haha. Wish me luck.

Banks can levy a fee of £100, how did you explain the fraud to them ?

[southcoastpunter]

Again your opinion dont matter to me. Is also off topic to seeking. Here we are sharing seeking views and alternitives.

I don’t think it is “off topic” - how some girls from Seeking treat us may depend, in part, on how they are treated by guys who communicate with them and/or meet! Also, I know for sure that some girls joined Seeking and then left within a couple of weeks because of the way some guys communicated with them (type and content of messages)!

So your behaviour ( and mine too come to that) can have a knock on indirect effect on other members!

[finn5555]

Again your opinion dont matter to me.

Hardly surprising really, as for off topic that’s your opinion but it doesn’t excuse your behaviour towards women in general on seeking 

[Famy8989]

Banks can levy a fee of £100, how did you explain the fraud to them ?

I mentioned it above what I said. Anyway an update now:
I work in a field where it makes me incredibly tech savvy. I’m able to find out who people are. I found everything about her, from who her parents are to her YouTube channel that she hasn’t posted on since 2019 to where she lives… I did not do anything to threaten her and left it at that but she unblocked me and called me twice on my way back to London. I asked her to text me as I was on a coach full of people and didn’t really want to talk about why I got scammed by my seeking arrangement but to no response, left on read. Today, she called and called. She sobbed over the phone how her bank got frozen and she needs my help to withdraw the fraud report. She can’t pay rent, she can’t do anything. She showed me proof. I’m between two minds. 1, I feel bad. She seemed genuinely upset and sorry. 2, crocodile tears, just needs me to help her after fucking me over. She said she wants to make it up to me blah di blah, I said I don’t need any of that and will sleep on it. Some advice would be great 

[Punting2022]

I mentioned it above what I said. Anyway an update now:
I work in a field where it makes me incredibly tech savvy. I’m able to find out who people are. I found everything about her, from who her parents are to her YouTube channel that she hasn’t posted on since 2019 to where she lives… I did not do anything to threaten her and left it at that but she unblocked me and called me twice on my way back to London. I asked her to text me as I was on a coach full of people and didn’t really want to talk about why I got scammed by my seeking arrangement but to no response, left on read. Today, she called and called. She sobbed over the phone how her bank got frozen and she needs my help to withdraw the fraud report. She can’t pay rent, she can’t do anything. She showed me proof. I’m between two minds. 1, I feel bad. She seemed genuinely upset and sorry. 2, crocodile tears, just needs me to help her after fucking me over. She said she wants to make it up to me blah di blah, I said I don’t need any of that and will sleep on it. Some advice would be great 

If you withdraw the fraud case, does the money go back to her account. Why would bank block her account, you got yours back end of story.

I would say technically you frauded her. She met you and took payment for what you both agreed to. Only you paid her too early. Should have said payment in room Most pay at end or in room and with cash.

You say you mnow everything about her. But she knows your real name, and can find out about you if wanted.

I have a meet soon, she wants bank transfer. Told her cash and she can deposit. She says she has monzo so has to be bank. But you can deposit to that in post office. Will say bank transfer but at end

[Jardent6]

I mentioned it above what I said. Anyway an update now:
I work in a field where it makes me incredibly tech savvy. I’m able to find out who people are. I found everything about her, from who her parents are to her YouTube channel that she hasn’t posted on since 2019 to where she lives… I did not do anything to threaten her and left it at that but she unblocked me and called me twice on my way back to London. I asked her to text me as I was on a coach full of people and didn’t really want to talk about why I got scammed by my seeking arrangement but to no response, left on read. Today, she called and called. She sobbed over the phone how her bank got frozen and she needs my help to withdraw the fraud report. She can’t pay rent, she can’t do anything. She showed me proof. I’m between two minds. 1, I feel bad. She seemed genuinely upset and sorry. 2, crocodile tears, just needs me to help her after fucking me over. She said she wants to make it up to me blah di blah, I said I don’t need any of that and will sleep on it. Some advice would be great 

Hmmm if your story is indeed true then this will be a good lesson for her. She was intent on scamming you and had you not reported and her account got frozen she would have been content with herself. I don’t think you defrauded her , you agreed to a service , she received payment without delivering. I wouldn’t fall for her sob story to be honest. granted she may make it up to you by delivering on said services but I think this one of those where you have to just tell her it’s not your problem as this is the consequence of her scamming you. She should figure it out with her bank . Now next time she would think twice about doing such a scam . I have also been scammed and I know what it’s like and I think these girls take the piss tbh . Most of us are working professionals we don’t have the equivalent time and energy that they put in to scam and as a result they get away with it far too often , I say leave her to suffer with the consequences.

[koshkaj]

I mentioned it above what I said. Anyway an update now:
I work in a field where it makes me incredibly tech savvy. I’m able to find out who people are. I found everything about her, from who her parents are to her YouTube channel that she hasn’t posted on since 2019 to where she lives… I did not do anything to threaten her and left it at that but she unblocked me and called me twice on my way back to London. I asked her to text me as I was on a coach full of people and didn’t really want to talk about why I got scammed by my seeking arrangement but to no response, left on read. Today, she called and called. She sobbed over the phone how her bank got frozen and she needs my help to withdraw the fraud report. She can’t pay rent, she can’t do anything. She showed me proof. I’m between two minds. 1, I feel bad. She seemed genuinely upset and sorry. 2, crocodile tears, just needs me to help her after fucking me over. She said she wants to make it up to me blah di blah, I said I don’t need any of that and will sleep on it. Some advice would be great 

She made her bed, let her lie in it. i think you should leave her to it, will teach her a good lesson.  Or, depending on how guilty you feel (no idea why you feel guilty, it's totally her fault), ask her why she did it and how many others she has done it to. Depending on her response, make a decision from there.

If you let her off the hook, she'll just go straight back to scamming others, imo.

[bash_eer]

I mentioned it above what I said. Anyway an update now:
I work in a field where it makes me incredibly tech savvy. I’m able to find out who people are. I found everything about her, from who her parents are to her YouTube channel that she hasn’t posted on since 2019 to where she lives… I did not do anything to threaten her and left it at that but she unblocked me and called me twice on my way back to London. I asked her to text me as I was on a coach full of people and didn’t really want to talk about why I got scammed by my seeking arrangement but to no response, left on read. Today, she called and called. She sobbed over the phone how her bank got frozen and she needs my help to withdraw the fraud report. She can’t pay rent, she can’t do anything. She showed me proof. I’m between two minds. 1, I feel bad. She seemed genuinely upset and sorry. 2, crocodile tears, just needs me to help her after fucking me over. She said she wants to make it up to me blah di blah, I said I don’t need any of that and will sleep on it. Some advice would be great 

Dont feel sorry for her, she only contacted you because she wants something from you. These type of girls need a life lesson and this should be one of them for her and let her deal with sorting it out now. Life isn't always as easy getting a free meal and walking off with 300 quid.

[Heph]

She is in the essential 'find out' stage: it would therefore be negligent of you [Famy8989] to not allow her the opportunity to properly understand why fraud and its secondary effects are so corrosive to society. Like a prescription of antibiotics, it's now essential that she completes the course for the medicine to work to her benefit.

[Famy8989]

Thanks for the advice. You’re right, It would only be fair to let her find out. It could prevent someone else from being scammed in the future. I do feel a sense of guilt but she made her bed and left me feeling like shit regardless if she planned it before meeting me or not.

[Famy8989]

Hmmm if your story is indeed true then this will be a good lesson for her.

Of course it’s true haha. I have no reason to make myself look like a fucking idiot on the forum apart from the fact that it helps people.

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[stampjones]

I would say two things. One is you don't know that you're the only person she's done this to. You did what you needed to do to recover your money. That's the end of your involvement. Like others have said lesson needs to be learned.

Point two, you said you weren't interested in her offer to make it up to you but worth pointing out that doing so could put you in a seriously dodgy place legally (not to mention morally) so wise choice.

[Punting2022]

Of course it’s true haha. I have no reason to make myself look like a fucking idiot on the forum apart from the fact that it helps people.

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I wouldn't meet her again, Might have some heavies etc to sort you out.
Block her move on.

[Barneypunt]

Just block and move on. We don’t need discourse on this

[Famy8989]

I wouldn't meet her again, Might have some heavies etc to sort you out.
Block her move on.

Definitely. Done

[smithjohn202607]

So I saw a SB in 2022 with a ppm of 200 . She reconnected last month and we agreed on a date to meet . She wanted to confirm ppm and I said 250-300 ? She came back saying her rates are now much higher lol (her words ) this happens when some of us who have deeper pockets or are much more generous spend a lot more ! Some of them may see them only once like an escort but in that SBs mind she is worth a lot more and she limits the number of SD she can afford. I think 🤔 as SD on this forum we should be mindful of this when going over 500 per meet . However, each to their own , this is just a brotherly suggestion.

I offer £1k ppm and I enjoy doing the whole wooing because I truly love seeing my SB happy.

Just because you assess it as market value does not mean we (the SDs with deeper pockets as you’ve put it) see it as market value or sex work even.

Some of us - myself included as a single SD - want an actual relationship and not a pump and dump or containment situation. 

I get this is predominantly a punting site and I am happy that it exists so I can vet potentials and ensure who I am wining and dining isn’t a SW… but what’s not within your budget will be within someone else’s.

[sugardaddy0511]

I offer £1k ppm and I enjoy doing the whole wooing because I truly love seeing my SB happy.

Just because you assess it as market value does not mean we (the SDs with deeper pockets as you’ve put it) see it as market value or sex work even.

Some of us - myself included as a single SD - want an actual relationship and not a pump and dump or containment situation. 

I get this is predominantly a punting site and I am happy that it exists so I can vet potentials and ensure who I am wining and dining isn’t a SW… but what’s not within your budget will be within someone else’s.

that’s up to you what you want to do , but why do you think SD offering lower PPM do not want to see their SB happy or see them as SW or want a pump and dump situation. I can afford to pay 1000 ppm but I do not do that as spend a lot of gifts (unsolicited) trips etc . I have had 4 long term arrangements of 2-4 years too .

[koshkaj]

Just because you assess it as market value does not mean we (the SDs with deeper pockets as you’ve put it) see it as market value or sex work even.

This is interesting. Did not think anyone would consider as anything else.

Some of us - myself included as a single SD - want an actual relationship and not a pump and dump or containment situation.

 

Then why bother with seeking at all as opposed to just dating a standard civvy?

[Prifessionallondinguy]

We wouldn’t be able to fuck them in real life without paying them, would we? Even if we had wit, charm, the ability to mentor and a fucking beard 

All but one SB I’ve met wouldn’t even look at me twice let alone whizz on me if I was on fire.

The Willy waving on here of late. 
Doesn’t impress, neither does it demonstrate that those traits are evident.

[paul_tall_]

Of course it’s true haha. I have no reason to make myself look like a fucking idiot on the forum apart from the fact that it helps people.

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Her account will only have been suspended whilst they investigate the transaction flagged by your bank. Has your bank credited the money back in already ? Surely if she rings them up and says the reverse that she met you and you sent her money then wouldnt it just be a stalemate situation. As someone else said there may be a history of flagged payments

[Barneypunt]

We wouldn’t be able to fuck them in real life without paying them, would we? Even if we had wit, charm, the ability to mentor and a fucking beard 

All but one SB I’ve met wouldn’t even look at me twice let alone whizz on me if I was on fire.

The Willy waving on here of late. 
Doesn’t impress, neither does it demonstrate that those traits are evident.

Speak for yourself lol. I still sleep with one of my past sbs from time to time. No ppm or anything, just friends with benefits. Your experience sounds a bit sad, I sympathise with you.

[Famy8989]

Her account will only have been suspended whilst they investigate the transaction flagged by your bank. Has your bank credited the money back in already ? Surely if she rings them up and says the reverse that she met you and you sent her money then wouldnt it just be a stalemate situation. As someone else said there may be a history of flagged payments

My bank instantly gave me the money back. I sent them proof that we had a history of messaging and it stopped the minute the funds were sent to her. They saw the missed calls and unread time stamped text messages, easy win by my bank. But yeah, I hope it makes her think twice before trying to scam someone else

[bistokid]

Does anyone else have a trigger that makes them instantly dismiss a profile?

If there's even a hint of The Eiffel Tower in any of the profile pictures then I'm out.

I have no idea why.

[Punting2022]

Does anyone else have a trigger that makes them instantly dismiss a profile?

If there's even a hint of The Eiffel Tower in any of the profile pictures then I'm out.

I have no idea why.

Dubai pics usually. You know they are asking for hourly rates of 600 or 1k for 1 hour or 2.

[Punting2022]

Speak for yourself lol. I still sleep with one of my past sbs from time to time. No ppm or anything, just friends with benefits. Your experience sounds a bit sad, I sympathise with you.

oh the elusive freebie lad. Its not free btw. Your paying for meals out, drinks, gifts probabbly.

[Barneypunt]

oh the elusive freebie lad. Its not free btw. Your paying for meals out, drinks, gifts probabbly.

No. No I’m not LOL

I pay for the hotel and that’s it 

[Jeffpike]

Does anyone else have a trigger that makes them instantly dismiss a profile?

If there's even a hint of The Eiffel Tower in any of the profile pictures then I'm out.

I have no idea why.

Well you can only go half way up(or down) these days

If the pictures are too perfect I move on, like magazine perfect.