seeking.com - Open Topic

[andyhot]

No payment first meet is a rule of mine only if there’s something on offer

[Jpmcgee]

I would add an eighth category to your very accurate list.  Married/taken for women in long term civvy relationships who want a discrete affair and use seeking as a high class/discrete version of tinder and with the right guy looks/personality wise they have no intention of wanting money to meet (if you offered a woman like this an allowance for sex she would probably blow you out because she has had numerous offers like that already and has taken offense from it) and will only meet you if they full on fancy you phyiscally AND love your banter and you show a level of discretion that is way above average compared to most guys on seeking.  These are very few and fair between but do exist and are amazing when they work.

I have one lined up to meet next week after spending the last two days talking to her pretty much non stop and receiving all types of pics of her.  I know the pics are genuine as i always ask a girl to do something in the pics to prove they are hers and taken specifically for me.

You are right! That list was just an initial conversation starter. I'd love to rack your brains sometime yobbra, you seem like an oracle!

I've never really given the 30+ women on there a second look but maybe im missing a trick. Better change my search terms now 

[Jpmcgee]

Wouldn't be getting in the habit of a paid intro meeting just for drinks without any sex tbh.    Don't think there is much need to do that if you are paying an allowance for a first meet you should be getting laid or definitely more than just a M&G.  Any time a girl wants a M&G its with zero money and at a location to suit me.  If she isn't willing to do that then she just gets blocked.

100% agree with this.

dont get attached to her either, with the turnover of women on there, there will be another 5 who will join in the next week just like her...

Remember, as a guy on there with cash to spend, you are in demand and you have the upper hand.

[yobbra]

100% agree with this.

dont get attached to her either, with the turnover of women on there, there will be another 5 who will join in the next week just like her...

Remember, as a guy on there with cash to spend, you are in demand and you have the upper hand.

Totally you have to be willing to treat girls like shit to get the best out of seeking.  If you do at the start you will meet the girls you don't have to treat like shit longer term.  It is much less painful longer term.   I am lucky in that i have 10 hours a day i can 'grind' the site and i probably C&P 1000+ girls a month my initial message in my area.   I don't expect to meet more than 5 of them in real life and maybe only 1 to actually enjoy fucking.  900+ will be blocked instantly after  their intital reply just to give you an idea of how brutal i operate.  Its a high volume game and 99% of emails you send will be worthhless.  If you can't handle the rejection it probably isn't for you.

[yobbra]

I have offered a student tonight a £4000 a month cash allowance for a year and she has sstill turned me down.   I was joking but i just wanted to see what she actually expected.  She was literally 10/10 and had a rack to die for.   It is incredible what some of these young fit whores expect.   £4000/month after tax is like earning £80k a year for one night a week as a uni student.   It still isn't enough.  What are they signing up for?  what do they expect?

[Edward Trotter]

Totally you have to be willing to treat girls like shit to get the best out of seeking.  If you do at the start you will meet the girls you don't have to treat like shit longer term.  It is much less painful longer term.   I am lucky in that i have 10 hours a day i can 'grind' the site and i probably C&P 1000+ girls a month my initial message in my area.   I don't expect to meet more than 5 of them in real life and maybe only 1 to actually enjoy fucking.  900+ will be blocked instantly after  their intital reply just to give you an idea of how brutal i operate.  Its a high volume game and 99% of emails you send will be worthhless.  If you can't handle the rejection it probably isn't for you.

Seriously? Do you even think there are 1000+ new girls a month in your area worthy of a C&P? I may be wrong but I smell a faint whiff of something unpleasant.

[BigSaviour]

Advice taken lads. It's just that she is too hot and my first experience.
Now talking to this other chick equally hot, d-t-f but now saying first meet not just sex?

[yobbra]

100% agree with this.

dont get attached to her either, with the turnover of women on there, there will be another 5 who will join in the next week just like her...

Remember, as a guy on there with cash to spend, you are in demand and you have the upper hand.

Even as a guy who doesn't spend cash on there you can be that brutal.  There is a tiny % of seeking whores who actually get turned on by the arrogance of you rejecting them.  They fucking hate it and some will meet and fuck just to see if your arrogance is worth it. 

[freeze44]

I have offered a student tonight a £4000 a month cash allowance for a year and she has sstill turned me down.   I was joking but i just wanted to see what she actually expected.  She was literally 10/10 and had a rack to die for.   It is incredible what some of these young fit whores expect.   £4000/month after tax is like earning £80k a year for one night a week as a uni student.   It still isn't enough.  What are they signing up for?  what do they expect?

She probably thought you are a bullshiter....

[yobbra]

She probably thought you are a bullshiter....

She ticks all the boxes of a nervous first timer who isn't a whore and her mates told her about seeking but she can't go through with it.  I have proofed pics/selfies that i specifically asked for to prove her pics are real and she is a proper 10/10 darling.  She just isn't a whore and can't fuck guys twice her age even with huge money.   I have never offered a girl money like this in my life to fuck her and she still turns me down when i have fucked loads of students her age for free.  Sometimes they just don't want to do it.  Their morals/family are too good.  you just have to suck that up if you want the genuine freebies. 

[wonko88]

I just looked, in my area there are 8 women who've logged into SA in the last 6 months. I am above the age range specified by 3, another 3 specify no romance or sex.

Leaving 2

2 is not 1000

If it's a numbers game.........

[Kev40ish]

I just looked, in my area there are 8 women who've logged into SA in the last 6 months. I am above the age range specified by 3, another 3 specify no romance or sex.

Leaving 2

2 is not 1000

If it's a numbers game.........

Where do you live? The Outer Hebrides??

[wonko88]

East Anglia, a town.

Not well served by AW or, it seems, SA.

[Orion1953]

I have offered a student tonight a £4000 a month cash allowance for a year and she has sstill turned me down.   I was joking but i just wanted to see what she actually expected.  She was literally 10/10 and had a rack to die for.   It is incredible what some of these young fit whores expect.   £4000/month after tax is like earning £80k a year for one night a week as a uni student.   It still isn't enough.  What are they signing up for?  what do they expect?

Nervous first timer or not, the girl is clearly streetwise, not naive as you naively must have assumed. She saw right through your bullshitting. I wonder how many offers like this she has received.

[Kev40ish]

East Anglia, a town.

Not well served by AW or, it seems, SA.

Ahh I see what you mean and feel for you if you can’t travel much further afield..

[yorkieyorkie]

You are right! That list was just an initial conversation starter. I'd love to rack your brains sometime yobbra, you seem like an oracle!

I've never really given the 30+ women on there a second look but maybe im missing a trick. Better change my search terms now 

Oracle  more like a bullshitter

[BigSaviour]

Guys,  what are your experiences on the first M&G, for example if u know the girl is down to shag what would you do or where to take her before the action? 

[wonko88]

Guys,  what are your experiences on the first M&G, for example if u know the girl is down to shag what would you do or where to take her before the action? 

I am under the impression that quite a lot of women like food, maybe even a drink or 2, even some forms of entertainment.

So fish and chips with a full fat coke, wandering around eating them outside the chippy, watching the locals mug other locals, seems ideal

The probability is whomever you meet isn't a martian, just be 'nice' and try not to piss her off enough to blow your 'sure' thing. The same as you would treat anyone you wanted something from.

Then again - I'm in my 50s, occasionally seeing the odd SP, what do I know about women.

[andyhot]

What is your Experience of freebies from SA Girls

Met a stunning 22year old uni student last night for drinks just doesn’t want money for a overnights just to be wined and dined obvious I’m going for it on Friday without hesitation as she brought it up

Iv had a few of theses freebie meets Previous experience with these long term is that Iv ended up taking the girls shopping which cost a lot more than simple paid meets I didn’t care great for short term 1/2 months for me

[Babu]

I was messaging a SB and stated my offer - £100 for a few hours of fun and work up to £200 overnight (which I have no intention of) and she said that was too low, she had a previous SD fly her and her friend to his holiday home in Florida.

Sounds like BS but I’m wondering do some SDs really do this?

[andyhot]

With a longer term girl Iv done overseas trips lady year took a SB girl to the seychelles but we had been seeing each other 4/5 months on a regular basis never / never as a first meet that would be fucking nuts

Only done it with one girl tho

[yobbra]

What is your Experience of freebies from SA Girls

Met a stunning 22year old uni student last night for drinks just doesn’t want money for a overnights just to be wined and dined obvious I’m going for it on Friday without hesitation as she brought it up

Iv had a few of theses freebie meets Previous experience with these long term is that Iv ended up taking the girls shopping which cost a lot more than simple paid meets I didn’t care great for short term 1/2 months for me

Don't take them shopping then and find out if it really is a freebie would be my advice.  If they not interested if no shopping then you are effectively paying for it.

[yobbra]

Guys,  what are your experiences on the first M&G, for example if u know the girl is down to shag what would you do or where to take her before the action? 

I have pre arranged meets like this where we agree to meet at my hotel and fuck before going out for dinner and then fuck again after.  That tends to work well for me.

[yobbra]

I just looked, in my area there are 8 women who've logged into SA in the last 6 months. I am above the age range specified by 3, another 3 specify no romance or sex.

Leaving 2

2 is not 1000

If it's a numbers game.........

Certain areas of the uk are just pointless trying to use seeking.  That is a downside and you will never justify the monthly fee.  Ideal spot is big university towns as it drives the competition and allowance rates (if any) down.

[Niggledebits]

A couple of observations from me. feel free to chime in gents and add.

I’ve seen the following categories on SA:
1.   Straight up hookers - pro/photoshopped pics, EEs - avoid
2.   Pro SBs – ridic allowances and as above
3.   Platonics – even more ridic and avoid
4.   Pic/vid/panty sellers and scammers - avoid
5.   Students – very flaky, some very disillusioned but some good gems
6.   Middle grounders – understand they need to provide sex for some sort of consideration whether that is ppm/monthly allowance or upmarket dinner and drinks.
7.   Daters – interesting category that want to rub shoulders with wealthy and/or successful men

This isn’t an exhaustive list and pretty generalised.

You should register as an SB and see the quality of what else is out there. Seriously, if you are a ‘normal’ guy, you’ll do pretty well. I’d say:
-   Don’t be overly sexualised in your prof
-   Put up some sort of picture, even if you blur your face
-   Don’t put your wealth is £10m or anything else ridic (youll be surprised at how many middle aged guys have taken a selfie in their parent’s dated bathroom and put they earn 1m a year!)
-   Avoid any horror selfies. I’d go as far as saying avoid any shirtless shots – even if youre ripped
-   Keep the text normal, show some personality and don’t try and be too ‘alpha’

Once you get talking to a SB, run game like you would do on tinder/bumble etc. Avoid transactional or sexualised chat as a lot of these girls don’t want to ‘feel’ like an escort – and some are quite easily startled. Being younger, cooler, fitter and having some game will help you get laid easier but not necessarily cheaper.

Some other tips from me:

- avoid any girl with a trout pout – they are invariably hookers, EEs, pro SDs with ridic demands and/or thick as sh*t
- avoid any profiles which have the words ‘spoilt’
- i'm wary of the girls who have been on there for over a year or less than 2 weeks
+ try and move the conversation the conversation over to whatsapp within 5 messages.
+ a quick phone call before a meet can sometimes wean out the flakers
+ non social media linked punting phone etc
- i personally avoid anyone giving me their kik. kik can be less personal than a phone number and hence there are a higher % of scammer/timewasters.
+ don’t pay upfront; includes train tickets and meets (be wary of girls who would take money and run out a bar)
+ carry plenty condoms, a lot of girls are pretty blasé about protection and there may be a line of thought that SBs could be riskier than hookers
- Don’t pre book any hotel rooms. Dayuse is great and you don’t get burned if you don’t use.
~ against my better judgement – ive brought girls back to my flat (I’ve got a decent place in central in a decent area) and the jurys still out for me on this – better to trust your judgement. My view is that the women on SA are more vindictive and crazier than on tinder/bumble etc
- students for me are the flakiest and never turn up on time. Probably because they haven’t matured yet but you can find good ‘value’ in this category.

As everyone else has mentioned, its hugely time consuming but can be extremely fun... enjoy

Apologies for quoting the whole of the excellent advice above but struggling to cut and paste certain sections. However I want to reiterate a couple of points based upon my 6months on Seeking. These points are covered in the closed Seeking group so this is aimed at those new to Seeking.

Point 5 Students - very flaky. Also tend to be the ones who will try to extract money out of you up front by either selling videos / pictures, asking for train fares, giving you a sob story over lack of funds etc etc. I have had best success with ex students who have graduated and want a bit extra alongside their current job or are in between jobs. This leads onto my second point

Never under ANY circumstances pay money up front for anything even if it starts at something like £5. They will keep pestering for more and there is a zero chance of ever meeting up. I have learnt the hard way, telltale signs are the super hot photos and the offer of intimacy for a really low amount. It is a minefield out there but the genuine ones won’t ask for any money up front.

One last point, treat any meets as an arms length transaction. Don’t believe for one minute that a hot 8/10 20 year old is seriously interested in a relationship with a 50 year old unless you are in the rich / super rich category. It is fun meeting these younger girls and doing the things you used to do when you met the missus early doors.

For the record I have 4 regulars who I enjoy my time with. All are articulate and driven so I feel I can offer something other than just monetary rewards.

Enjoy but be careful.

[daviemac]

Apologies for quoting the whole of the excellent advice above but struggling to cut and paste certain sections.

No need to cut and paste, just quote the whole post then highlight and delete the sections you don't want.   

[Orion1953]

[quote

Never under ANY circumstances pay money up front for anything even if it starts at

For the record I have 4 regulars who I enjoy my time with. All are articulate and driven so I feel I can offer something other than just monetary rewards.

Enjoy but be careful.
[/quote]

Thank you very much for sharing this Niggledebits. I have been browsing for a while but only very recently become a full member.
Do you have any recommendations for the Yorkshire /North East region?
Any girl I better avoid? I am talking to a bird that is logging on from abroad but says she is based in UK. Probably a scammer? Another one just asked me for some travel money upfront for M&G - just £25 for a Taxi? She is hot, so I am tempted. Should I risk it?

[yobbra]

[quote

Never under ANY circumstances pay money up front for anything even if it starts at

For the record I have 4 regulars who I enjoy my time with. All are articulate and driven so I feel I can offer something other than just monetary rewards.

Enjoy but be careful.


Thank you very much for sharing this Niggledebits. I have been browsing for a while but only very recently become a full member.
Do you have any recommendations for the Yorkshire /North East region?
Any girl I better avoid? I am talking to a bird that is logging on from abroad but says she is based in UK. Probably a scammer? Another one just asked me for some travel money upfront for M&G - just £25 for a Taxi? She is hot, so I am tempted. Should I risk it?

You know the answer to your questions already.  This is how scammers prey on men.  If they want taxi paid for M&G say you will happily meet at a location of their choice close to where they live and you will travel to them.  Then if they are genuine they have no issue.  If scammer they will block you.  If they come back with 'i don't want to meet locally' then say your taxi will be reimbursed in cash on arrival at my location of choice.  If they say they have no cash tell them you will send a driver/taxi to collect them that you will pay for from their neighbourhood locally not from their exact house as that will just be another excuse.  If they decline all three of these options how can they be anything other than a scammer as all they want is money sent to them and not a fully paid taxi to actually meet you.

If they do agree to that then ask to have a brief video chat prior to meeting on whats app so they can prove who they are in their pictures.  Again genuine girls will have no problem with this.  If this isn't an option then ask for a selfie of them doing something specific with their hands or face to prove to you they have just taken the selfie for you and it is them in the picture.  Anyone who is a scammer will flat out refuse to do this for obvious reasons so you can just instantly block/report them to seeking for scamming.

Regarding overseas sign ins on their profile they are mostly scammers although some girls can just be abroad on holiday/overseas students back home for the uni holidays. I tend to take no risks with this and just block tbh.  There are so many options on seeking in the heavily populated areas there is no need to ever expose yourself to any financial risk.

[Niggledebits]

No need to cut and paste, just quote the whole post then highlight and delete the sections you don't want.   

Perfect, thanks!

[yobbra]

Bank holiday weekends are also a peak time for genuine new girls to sign up usually as they have time on their hands to do their profile.  This weekend is also not quite payday yet so a lot of girls are skint and tempted.

[Paul1738]

I just looked, in my area there are 8 women who've logged into SA in the last 6 months. I am above the age range specified by 3, another 3 specify no romance or sex.

Leaving 2

2 is not 1000

If it's a numbers game.........

You’ve probably got your search filter set to 0. Try changing it to 25m or 50m radius.

[wonko88]

You’ve probably got your search filter set to 0. Try changing it to 25m or 50m radius.

I don't drive, any more, and have a walking range of a couple of hundred meters on a good day, so extending out of my local area isn't really possible. For me it's local public transport or nothing.

[yobbra]

I don't drive, any more, and have a walking range of a couple of hundred meters on a good day, so extending out of my local area isn't really possible. For me it's local public transport or nothing.

Paying the £70 for seeking probably isn't going to be worth it for yourself then.  It doesn't suit everyone and traditional SP's are much more efficent for some guys depending on location/time available.

[wonko88]

Paying the £70 for seeking probably isn't going to be worth it for yourself then.  It doesn't suit everyone and traditional SP's are much more efficent for some guys depending on location/time available.

This is the conclusion I keep on reaching, despite the fact that I'd like a little more than SPs provide.

[stampjones]

This is very true as well.  I wouldn't be on seeking if i was married but then i would be more interested in why i was married if i wanted to be on seeking this so often.  Just get a divorce life is too short.  Seeking is a good looking single man's game to optimize the benefits.  If you are an old/fat/ugly/bald married guy with little time you much better off financially seeing escorts hour by hour for the time needed than paying to use seeking.   You have to choose what suits your circumstances.

What a pile of shite. You are presumably implying you are not an old/fat/ugly/bald married guy, so how the fuck would you know what it’s like for them? I fit quite nicely into those categories and I do just fine when I go onto SA.
Also for those asking about photos, I never have a photo in my profile and am reluctant to send one to girls - that limits my options but it certainly doesnt prevent me fucking enough hot young student types to keep me happy

[yobbra]

This is the conclusion I keep on reaching, despite the fact that I'd like a little more than SPs provide.

Not sure on your personal situation but if you are single or able to have a weekend away once a month in a localish city via train, stay overnight/weekend in a hotel outside the train station and spend the month arranging to meet up with local seeking girls in that city and make it a regular thing monthly if you fancy something different to sp's and money/time isn't that much of an issue.

[noreply]

My profile on SA is showing a lot fewer results with the same filter on as before.

Anyone know why, it's just a free account but today I my results are a lot limited compared to before.

I made another free account and getting all the results back 8 pages compared to 4 pages.

[yobbra]

What a pile of shite. You are presumably implying you are not an old/fat/ugly/bald married guy, so how the fuck would you know what it’s like for them? I fit quite nicely into those categories and I do just fine when I go onto SA.
Also for those asking about photos, I never have a photo in my profile and am reluctant to send one to girls - that limits my options but it certainly doesnt prevent me fucking enough hot young student types to keep me happy

if you pay the asking price you will always get what you want in life if you are happy paying over the odds for convenience. Thats fine.  SA is an escort site for the right guys willing to do no work and pay the dollar.  Surely this site is about getting it cheaper than you should and learning how to.  If you are 50/fat/ugly/bald and married you aren't doing that very often like i am.

[itk]

If you are not in a relationship then seeking maybe a good option,there are many of us who don't get the opportunity to wine and dine girls and have over nights unless we are away on business, that's why we have escorts.Also you are more likely to get caught by the o/h using seeking.

Totally agree, being with someone makes SA very difficult, that’s my experiences anyway. The sex is 10 times greater with a girl from there though, although EAS is difficult to avoid.  What I found was most meets to begin with were more expensive and time consuming than punting, although the rewards were greater. Went and became a member on SA again recently but found most of the same girls were still on there from a couple of years ago and prices quoted were through the roof.
Being single I would imagine it’s a gold mine for pussy

[NightKid]

What I found was most meets to begin with were more expensive and time consuming than punting, although the rewards were greater.

One of the fundamental rules of life I suppose ... high risk, high reward.

[stampjones]

if you pay the asking price you will always get what you want in life if you are happy paying over the odds for convenience. Thats fine.  SA is an escort site for the right guys willing to do no work and pay the dollar.  Surely this site is about getting it cheaper than you should and learning how to.  If you are 50/fat/ugly/bald and married you aren't doing that very often like i am.

Again, how the fuck do you know? This site is about sharing things that have happened to you that you actually know rather than making up a load of crap that you (if you are to be believed) have no way of knowing.
This thread has a lot of good advice on it - so maybe just listen rather than filling the space with rubbish

[wonko88]

Again, how the fuck do you know? This site is about sharing things that have happened to you that you actually know rather than making up a load of crap that you (if you are to be believed) have no way of knowing.
This thread has a lot of good advice on it - so maybe just listen rather than filling the space with rubbish

+1

...and paying the asking price guarantees nothing in my experience. The asking price simply reflects what the seller hopes for, not what something is worth.

[Phil1980]

I'm very tempted to give SA a go, but there's a few things putting me off...

1. The membership fee is a joke! Up to £30 or so would be fair, I think.
2. It seems like it's a lot of work, almost as much as actual dating. I'm single and I've been on a dating site for ages with no success. Somehow, I'm sceptical that some hottie would spend the night with me for £300...
3. Unlike girls from AW or agencies there are no reviews, so it's a lot harder to judge what you're getting into.

My 2 pennies anyway, if it wasn't so expensive I'd probably take the plunge.

1. It's a sugar daddy site, so the membership fee is intentionally high to keep out the types that cant afford to be a sugar daddy

Your 2nd & 3rd points are valid points, and are the crux of the problems & frsutration I've had with seeking

[Phil1980]

If you're single with 800+ per month disposable income - then you'll enjoy seeking. Less than that and I think it could be a struggle if you want a shag once a week or so.

This. If you don't have 800+ quid a month cash to burn, ie. most people, don't waste your time on seeking.

Even after a year on seeking & doing quite well I've decided to go back to AW bc ultimately the girls seeking didn't make me more satisfied sexually and emotionally than fucking my regular AW girl

[yobbra]

1. It's a sugar daddy site, so the membership fee is intentionally high to keep out the types that cant afford to be a sugar daddy

Your 2nd & 3rd points are valid points, and are the crux of the problems & frsutration I've had with seeking

The fact the membership fee is so high is great as it massively reduces the supply of men on the site.  It doesn't mean you have to be able to have huge amounts of cash to operate on the site. I wish the fee was £100+ per month tbh

[tynetunnel]

I’m not planning to re-sub anymore. For the most part the site is full of students who want the money but don’t want to do anything for it.

I’ll be sticking to AW - tried and tested and reviewed girls win hands down every time 

[Marmalade]

Maybe someone would like to put on record on this thread where fees to seeking.com enter the picture and how much. Never used the site but I thought it was £100 to join. Their website advertises itself as free but then goes on about credit card subscriptions in the terms and conditions.

[hungrypunt]

Maybe someone would like to put on record on this thread where fees to seeking.com enter the picture and how much. Never used the site but I thought it was £100 to join. Their website advertises itself as free but then goes on about credit card subscriptions in the terms and conditions.

It was only 50 odd until recently, now its 70 and they have took away the paypal option so revolute etc is needed if you want privacy.
you cant send any meaningful messages unless you are paid up premium, you do get some free ones if you put a profile pic up (cant remember exactly but 10 I think) so cant really respond or interact. its all designed to hook you in as usual.
there are others out there if you search for sugar daddy sites, but seeking has got it boxed.
Membership can be cancelled anytime, dont worry about the subscription.

[Jpmcgee]

I am lucky in that i have 10 hours a day i can 'grind' the site and i probably C&P 1000+ girls a month my initial message in my area.   I don't expect to meet more than 5 of them in real life and maybe only 1 to actually enjoy fucking.  900+ will be blocked instantly after  their intital reply just to give you an idea of how brutal i operate.  Its a high volume game and 99% of emails you send will be worthhless.  If you can't handle the rejection it probably isn't for you.

10 hours a day.. that is some dedication for p*ssy my man! 

Even as a guy who doesn't spend cash on there you can be that brutal.  There is a tiny % of seeking whores who actually get turned on by the arrogance of you rejecting them.  They fucking hate it and some will meet and fuck just to see if your arrogance is worth it.

whats your gambit in getting laid for 'free'? target uni students and promise them a high allowance, hit it and then ghost, or just not even bring up/entertain any allowance chat and treat as a date and try and convert?

I've avoided the whole sub 23 age category mainly for the reason that they tend to be the flakiest, have the most ridic asks and are generally  the most immature - so i dont have the patience to deal. if there is gold to be struck i might have to change my search criteria 

What is your Experience of freebies from SA Girls

Met a stunning 22year old uni student last night for drinks just doesn’t want money for a overnights just to be wined and dined obvious I’m going for it on Friday without hesitation as she brought it up

Iv had a few of theses freebie meets Previous experience with these long term is that Iv ended up taking the girls shopping which cost a lot more than simple paid meets I didn’t care great for short term 1/2 months for me

I would avoid shopping. First of all you don't have any control, secondly they will have a mindset of treating you like an ATM but more importantly, its *your* time - who the f would like to take some jumped up little brat to selfridges? if you do an activity, make sure its something you enjoy doing too.

be careful that you dont end up getting strung along just to take her to nice restaurants. intimacy is expected 2nd date max and never anything fancy or any payment until they put out. As discussed, you could suggest coming to your hotel/place first, then going out...?

[Spencer Fobby]

whats your gambit in getting laid for 'free'? target uni students and promise them a high allowance, hit it and then ghost, or just not even bring up/entertain any allowance chat and treat as a date and try and convert

So you’d consider promising a girl money and then fucking her and giving her nothing? That’s such a cuntish move.  Jesus.