Very good post, cheers.
Question to you (and any other SA users reading this) - how would you compare SA to apps like Tinder & Bumble (even though there are differences between those apps themselves)? Specifically in terms of:
- Overall effort & time spent
- Attractiveness of the girls you meet
- How often the first meet ends in sex
- Quality of the sex
Obviously I'm well aware that answering the above will involve big generalisations and significantly depends on many personal factors (including location, what you're like, the approach you take (on the apps and SA), what you negotiate/offer to pay etc) but any attempt at answering would be appreciated.
As you elude to, it does depend, including the 'type of app' too, eg tinder is known more for hookups vs a Coffee Meets Bagel which is more for relationships. It also depends on the 'category' of girl you interact from my previous post:
1. Straight up hookers - pro/photoshopped pics, EEs - avoid
2. Pro SBs – ridic allowances and as above
3. Platonics – even more ridic and avoid
4. Pic/vid/panty sellers and scammers - avoid
5. Students – very flaky, some very disillusioned but some good gems
6. Middle grounders – understand they need to provide sex for some sort of consideration whether that is ppm/monthly allowance or upmarket dinner and drinks.
7. Daters – interesting category that want to rub shoulders with wealthy and/or successful men
IMO categories 5, 6 and 7 have the widest range IMO, from girls who will be upfront in pricing up and quoting for a couple of hours or night of their time from one end of the spectrum, to girls who dont really have a 'set' price but want to get to know you well and up for negotiating, sometimes meeting in the middle or treat as a date at no allowance and seeing where it gets to.
The latter is where I play in these categories because there is *value* to be had if you have good game and others (looks, physique, social value etc).
I'll sum up my observations for you:
- Overall effort & time spent
Slightly less. The reason being is that on normal dating apps men outnumber women so in terms of psychology they have the upper hand so your game has to be pretty decent in order to secure a date with a hot girl. On SA it’s the other way around so girls are much more willing in order to get your attention and time.
- Attractiveness of the girls you meet
Without a doubt, SA has a higher average and tighter spread (7 average and av range between 5 and 9), whereas Tinder has a lower average range (5.5 and av range between 3 and 9). As is more like a marketplace (albeit without transparent pricing), more often than not average girls on SA don’t get a look in, will be offered ‘humiliating’ rates and so the girls will just leave.
- How often the first meet ends in sex
I don’t talk about sex or engage in sex chat on SA (apart from mentioning a mutual beneficial arrangement is what I want and an allowance will only be given once that starts) – therefore I go on most SA ‘dates’ not 100% knowing whether or not ill sleep with the girl or not, but I have around a much better conversion rate than on tinder for first dates (double). You simply can not accept you’ll go on an SA date, not put in any effort and get laid.
- Quality of the sex
I’ve had pretty decent sex in both but are different in a number of ways. I think the range is wider on Tinder and SA has a better average.
On average a girl on SA will put in a better performance in the bedroom because theres an element that she wants another meet (and therefore payment) with you (eg shes willing to initiate sex throughout the night). The average effort put in by them is higher.
Girls on Tinder can differ wildly (from girls who just want some fun and sometimes cant really be bothered to put in effort in the bedroom) to others who really like you emotionally and therefore put in an out of world performance in.
I’ve not had a bad lay on SA (maybe I’ve just been lucky)
@andyhot @yobbra (or any other SA aficionados) – I’d be happy to swap stories, observations or tip/tricks in getting good value from the non-pros on SA. As with those it depends on you as a person and your approach rather than being just a wallet. I'd rather do this through private chat or group because its not in the best interest to discuss this openly on a forum. Although I don’t have access to the locked thread nor can I send a direct message…
