seeking.com - Open Topic

[Jpmcgee]

So you’d consider promising a girl money and then fucking her and giving her nothing? That’s such a cuntish move.  Jesus.

I'm just asking the question..

[yobbra]

I make it clear from the start that there will be no allowances its totally wrong to do otherwise.  Whatever other people do is up to them.  Not all girls on seeking want money/gifts whatever people think most do but the tank is plenty big enough for the 1% left over to still be worth chasing.

[Brumish]

I make it clear from the start that there will be no allowances its totally wrong to do otherwise.  Whatever other people do is up to them.  Not all girls on seeking want money/gifts whatever people think most do but the tank is plenty big enough for the 1% left over to still be worth chasing.

Quite interesting Yobbra. Do you get much repeat custom? And roughly how
Many would you say you’ve had a non financial arrangement with?

[Marmalade]

Sounds as if the facility was abused.

Perhaps more practical would be a wiki with basic info and tips, like how much, and how not to make an ass of oneself. Just a quick reference for anyone else wondering wtf?

[TPreston]

Sounds as if the facility was abused.

Perhaps more practical would be a wiki with basic info and tips, like how much, and how not to make an ass of oneself. Just a quick reference for anyone else wondering wtf?

There is a wiki

External Link/Members Only

Some of the info will have dated with the tread rule change- and the wiki was put together sporadically/ ad hoc , so isn't the most free flowing information chart. But there is some good info there that should help you decide if seeking is for you

[yobbra]

Quite interesting Yobbra. Do you get much repeat custom? And roughly how
Many would you say you’ve had a non financial arrangement with?

Around twenty i would say in four/five years.  Three of which were long term at least 3 months.  One several years on and off who ended up more like a gf casually which was perfect..   Probably seen more with small allowances as a one off (never paid more than £200 for an overnight) as well last minute when i fancy a one and done style one off.

Several of my friends had similar results tbh In different parts of the uk (outside of London).  Never heard of anything other than $$$$$$$ in London so no one i know even bothers to look there.

[distancetravel20]

I’ve signed up to Seeking for my 3rd attempt.
Having no luck in London between the scammers, fantasists and the girls who have no intention of meeting
Did have one good drink with a girl who seemed well up for it but then ghosted me
I am wondering if it works better outside of London where there are more girl next door types?
I don’t mind paying to be clear but even that doesn’t help

[Marmalade]

There is a wiki ...

True enough... but maybe some kind person who is well versed in Seeking and able to do concise fact summaries could do an initial paragraph (especially with the new restrictions on access to the thread). There’s some good stuff there: but you do have to scroll through to find it and as you say, much of it is a tad out of date now that one can’t refer to the UKP thread itself. I hope that’s not making mountains outta molehills.      Cheers.

[Shanks]

I have been a member on Seeking a few times. I’ll reply to some of the point you make.

1) I think membership was £40 per month when I first joined, now £70. Yes it is a lot of money but that’s the whole point of Seeking; if membership was affordable to loads of guys then every Tom, Dick and xyfek would be a member and it would be like any dating site where guys massively outnumber girls. By having a membership fee for guys that is a bit on the high side this means there’s less guys than girls on the site which makes the odds on meeting attractive girls higher.

2) I’m a very average guy in my early 50s and I have fucked quite a few different girls from the site. Maximum I have paid any girl is £250, lowest is £100. Yes you do have to add drinks, maybe dinner, hotel costs (unless one of you are willing to accommodate) so it does all add up. But remember that you are not paying someone who has not fucked multiple men already that day, and you are not paying per hour. And if you both agree to have some bedroom fun it’s because you both want to.

3) The biggest issue with Seeking are the number of timewasters, flakes and scammers. So long as you keep your wits around you and follow your gut instinct then you won’t get scammed, and certainly I have not. I’ve probably met around 20 girls from Seeking over the past 3 years and only two have disappointed me in terms of how crap they were in bed. The rest have generally been excellent shags with younger attractive girls that I wouldn’t have a hope to fuck in any other situation.

My last two regulars have been a 23 year old Nepalese slim student nurse and a 30s English slim tall milf with great tits. I’d put both at 7/10 in terms of looks. Most importantly both are much better shags and better value for money than seeing my favourite girl on AW who charges £120 per hour.

Cheers , helpful and informative
I might give it a go

[billybobsmith]

I stopped using SA a couple of years ago I believe.  Couldn't really justify the membership fee increase seeing as I lived away from the more student heavy areas and there were too many flakes, non-responders and escorts operating there to make the effort of finding a gem and driving 2-3hrs to them worthwhile.

My present job in the NW has me working with a few 20ish yo women and there's at least one who openly talks about getting a small allowance towards petrol for shagging him.  A friend of hers I know is on Myfreecams.
There's definitely scope for sleeping with some girls there for some sort of "reward" as they seem quite relaxed about sugar daddies and suchlike, although a lot of them do tell each other everything so discretion there is probably non-existent.  That said, at least I can get to know them and spend time with them rather than meeting up from the off in a hotel room etc. 
To be honest, buying some a KFC would be enough to get their clothes off.  They can be easily impressed by very little and see token gestures as a really good thing.  Might be a NW thing?

I don't mind the very occasional AW meet to serve my needs (although work gets in the way of most times they're available, or they don't reply), but with the number of young women I work with being quite sexually open (and a few have cheated on their boyfriends so wouldn't think much of doing so again in the right circumstances), taking a chance and having a load of extra cash in my pocket works well for me.
AW at present has a few I would try out, although a lot just don't appeal to me or reviews here aren't that favourable.  Makes a change, on AW, from around 1 decent one back home!  SA there has an amount I could count on one or two hands and half those have been there for months or longer.

The other issue with SA is that I don't know who's who on there now.  Since losing access to the dedicated thread, I've no idea which girls are known scammers, flakes, want £££££££, want no sex etc.  Don't really want to spend loads and/or waste hours of my time trying to filter them out.
At least AW gets you a pretty guaranteed shag, whether it's crap or decent, should that be what you're after.

 




 

[Payyourwaymate]

there's at least one who openly talks about getting a small allowance towards petrol for shagging him.
 
To be honest, buying some a KFC would be enough to get their clothes off.  They can be easily impressed by very little and see token gestures as a really good thing.  Might be a NW thing?

What sort of girls are these that they are putting out for petrol money and KFC?

Your post is not the only one I have read in this thread lately which has changed direction from the original post, alluding to these girls taking what is effectively chump change to do all these things on a site which is meant to be filled with "Wealthy" men.

Funnily enough I once worked with a girl that claimed she had a SD and he paid her £2k a month for some time. And her friends were getting £5k plus and had places etc, she also told me about the whole networking process for SDs and SBs and events where they could go to in order to seek out the genuine well off guys. This is in London though; and perhaps there was a chance she was talking out her arse, although she had plenty expensive clothes to show for it  . 

However, I thought the whole dream sold by SA was to meet "Wealthy older gentlemen"? If these girls are really putting out for such "amenities", then I am honestly.... amazed   

[Punterenas]

Apparently SA does run courses, summits, boot camps (no pun intended) call it what you will for prospective SBs.

External Link/Members Only

I had a look for my area and its all spray tans, pouty poses and definitely none of the cut price bunk ups alluded to by some on here, maybe I should go back up north or maybe I should just stick to punting. 

[yobbra]

Most guys in london on business at ceo level can easily put through ex's for the sb's through the firm so effecitely they are getting laid for free.  The girls don't care as they are getting £2k a month worth of exs or living at a ceo's mid week flat full time whilst he stays there 2 nights a week on company businses foc and spends the rest of the week at his house witth his wife and kids.  this is way more likely to happen in london than anywhere else so why london girls always expect top dollar.  Its just simple supply and demand.  If you don't want to pay top dollar don't search london girls.  This is why they ask for it because they can get it.   The men don't pay it their businesses do but don't realise.

[yobbra]

What sort of girls are these that they are putting out for petrol money and KFC?

Your post is not the only one I have read in this thread lately which has changed direction from the original post, alluding to these girls taking what is effectively chump change to do all these things on a site which is meant to be filled with "Wealthy" men.

Funnily enough I once worked with a girl that claimed she had a SD and he paid her £2k a month for some time. And her friends were getting £5k plus and had places etc, she also told me about the whole networking process for SDs and SBs and events where they could go to in order to seek out the genuine well off guys. This is in London though; and perhaps there was a chance she was talking out her arse, although she had plenty expensive clothes to show for it  . 

However, I thought the whole dream sold by SA was to meet "Wealthy older gentlemen"? If these girls are really putting out for such "amenities", then I am honestly.... amazed   

Some girls are not on seeking for money full stop.  You just have to invest the time to find them.   I have fucked model type girls who would be £300 an hour on aw on seeking because i was willing to listen to them and stroke their ego.  It's pretty obvious women are simple creatures if you stroke their ego.

[RayGuy]

It's pretty obvious women are simple creatures if you stroke their ego.

Much like yourself then

[AnotherTime]

I posted frequently when using SA last year, but the SA site has died the death of a thousand cuts and is a pale shadow of what it was - certainly in Scotland. It was a great ride, if you’ll pardon the awful pun.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

Most guys in london on business at ceo level can easily put through ex's for the sb's through the firm so effecitely they are getting laid for free.  The girls don't care as they are getting £2k a month worth of exs or living at a ceo's mid week flat full time whilst he stays there 2 nights a week on company businses foc and spends the rest of the week at his house witth his wife and kids.  this is way more likely to happen in london than anywhere else so why london girls always expect top dollar.  Its just simple supply and demand.  If you don't want to pay top dollar don't search london girls.  This is why they ask for it because they can get it.   The men don't pay it their businesses do but don't realise.

Really? That’s highly unlikely

[billybobsmith]

What sort of girls are these that they are putting out for petrol money and KFC?

Your post is not the only one I have read in this thread lately which has changed direction from the original post, alluding to these girls taking what is effectively chump change to do all these things on a site which is meant to be filled with "Wealthy" men.

Funnily enough I once worked with a girl that claimed she had a SD and he paid her £2k a month for some time. And her friends were getting £5k plus and had places etc, she also told me about the whole networking process for SDs and SBs and events where they could go to in order to seek out the genuine well off guys. This is in London though; and perhaps there was a chance she was talking out her arse, although she had plenty expensive clothes to show for it  . 

However, I thought the whole dream sold by SA was to meet "Wealthy older gentlemen"? If these girls are really putting out for such "amenities", then I am honestly.... amazed   

I'm sure there are girls out there getting £££££, but it's amazing how, at least away from the site, how a simple bit of attention, 69p bag of Haribo sweets etc. can get a girl fawning over you. 
As said earlier, some girls like the attention, whether it be "look at me!" through to someone giving them a second thought.
Quite a few do seem to have some emotional issues (maybe just lonely?) behind their outward façade, and if you're willing to spend time with them, listen to them, show the slightest kindness or token gesture (or even take advantage of them), the benefits can be reaped for practically nothing.

As for the girl with petrol money (around £80 every now and again she said), she's nice enough but not somewhere I would really go.  She's got a bit of a reputation from what I've heard from the other girls and would easily put out for dinner or something.

Well, originally when I joined SA, you were looking at £300-£400 a meet or thereabouts - maybe half of AW.  Eventually £150 became the norm with some getting freebies or meets for even less than that.
As others have said, it's not always about designer clothing, fancy jets etc. for women.  Some just need something to get them by, a friend, attention, a nice guy, escapism and so on.
It's amazing, to coin the phrase, how many women out there can be in a room full of people yet totally alone.



 

[yobbra]

Really? That’s highly unlikely

Why is it highly unlikely for a ceo to have a mid week apartment in London with all his bills paid for?  and return home to his family home at the weekend?  His SB gets to effectively use his flat and save herself huge London living costs and he gets all the SB benefits for free effectively via his position of power.  You really think that doesn't go on at the higher ends of seeking?

[Spencer Fobby]

Why is it highly unlikely for a ceo to have a mid week apartment in London with all his bills paid for?  and return home to his family home at the weekend?  His SB gets to effectively use his flat and save herself huge London living costs and he gets all the SB benefits for free effectively via his position of power.  You really think that doesn't go on at the higher ends of seeking?

More proof that seeking attracts the delusional of both genders.

[heathen666]

More proof that seeking attracts the delusional of both genders.

 

[Punterenas]

I'm sure there are girls out there getting £££££, but it's amazing how, at least away from the site, how a simple bit of attention, 69p bag of Haribo sweets etc. can get a girl fawning over you. 
As said earlier, some girls like the attention, whether it be "look at me!" through to someone giving them a second thought.
Quite a few do seem to have some emotional issues (maybe just lonely?) behind their outward façade, and if you're willing to spend time with them, listen to them, show the slightest kindness or token gesture (or even take advantage of them), the benefits can be reaped for practically nothing.

As for the girl with petrol money (around £80 every now and again she said), she's nice enough but not somewhere I would really go.  She's got a bit of a reputation from what I've heard from the other girls and would easily put out for dinner or something.

Well, originally when I joined SA, you were looking at £300-£400 a meet or thereabouts - maybe half of AW.  Eventually £150 became the norm with some getting freebies or meets for even less than that.
As others have said, it's not always about designer clothing, fancy jets etc. for women.  Some just need something to get them by, a friend, attention, a nice guy, escapism and so on.
It's amazing, to coin the phrase, how many women out there can be in a room full of people yet totally alone.



 

I'm showing my age but while reading that I had the music from Simon Bates "our tune" running through my head.

[Marmalade]

So would someone like to answer please?

Once your photo is on seeking, as required by the registration rules, can anyone see it?

Are there any other privacy issues one should know about?

(I’m just using my phone so maybe it’s out there and I haven’t seen it, but all info appreciated.  )

[Marmalade]

Their policy for instsnce, just states:

when you submit a post or comment to the Seeking Services, visitors to and users of the Seeking Services will be able to see the content of your posts and comments, the username associated with your posts or comments, and the date and time you originally submitted the post or comment. Although some parts of the services may be private or quarantined, they may become public and you should take that into consideration before posting to the Seeking Services.
When you send private messages or messages, the recipients of those messages will be able to see the content of your message, your username, and the date and time the message was sent. Please use caution when sharing information about yourself to third parties, as we have no control over how they will use the information you share with them.
When other users view your profile, they will be able to see information about your activities on the Seeking Services, such as your username, prior posts and comments, etc.

So it sounds to me although it doesn’t specifically mention photo, that any curious person could simply visit and go “that’s BiggusDickus from next door  “

[TPreston]

So would someone like to answer please?

Once your photo is on seeking, as required by the registration rules, can anyone see it?

Are there any other privacy issues one should know about?

(I’m just using my phone so maybe it’s out there and I haven’t seen it, but all info appreciated.  )

you don't need a photo to register or sign up. Opinions vary but i feel it helps get you attention on there and many won't engage without a photo. it helps set you apart from the probably 60:40 faceless profiles to normal photos.

Some girls will still engage without it. but in my opinion its a hurdle for starters and most will want to know what you look like before meeting.

When you have no photo on the site, its often assumed you're married or in a relationship which will put you off some of the girls who are more relationshipy (they will still want to be paid mind even if you're single)

There is an option to upload a photo and then have it hidden and only shared with people you are interested in if worried about seeing your other halfs friends or acquaintances or women you know IRL.

If you have the photo on public anyone who opens a seeking account as a sugar baby can see it. Other sugar daddys can't see it unless they open a fake sugar baby account. The sugar baby account can be opened by anyone with an email address and no further details are needed.

Odd journalist types open accounts and fish for information and fluff pieces but its rare.

Once shared with the site they comply with GDPR quite comprehensively from what i can see and as far as I can tell your data, should you tick the relevant boxes when deleting your profile, will be 'removed'. Aware there are still risks with this but it seems pretty solid from my novice understanding.

If you open a seeking account with a photo you get 10 free messages to send to girls but this is pointless really as you cannot read their replies and you cannot send contact details of their software has safeguards in place to prevent sending numbers, kik or snapchat usernames. If you dont upload a photo you dont get the 10 free messages. Once you pay for a sub you can send and receive messages as you please

If you have a significant other seeking becomes a lot more difficult and in my opinion from using seeking for a few years now - i wouldn't recommend as its time consuming, expensive and fraught with risk that would outweigh the simplicity of an hour or so punt a week.

[Kev40ish]

So would someone like to answer please?

Once your photo is on seeking, as required by the registration rules, can anyone see it?

Are there any other privacy issues one should know about?

(I’m just using my phone so maybe it’s out there and I haven’t seen it, but all info appreciated.  )

You have to upload a photo, but can keep it private. You then have the option to share it with whoever you want.

It is not there for everyone to see

[TPreston]

True enough... but maybe some kind person who is well versed in Seeking and able to do concise fact summaries could do an initial paragraph (especially with the new restrictions on access to the thread). There’s some good stuff there: but you do have to scroll through to find it and as you say, much of it is a tad out of date now that one can’t refer to the UKP thread itself. I hope that’s not making mountains outta molehills.      Cheers.

i can't be arsed to be fair. It would be half hour plus  to sort out and not sure who would read - you yourself mentioned curiosity to see a wiki and didn't see whats already here.

i think there is enough content on UKP overall about seeking for someone to make an informed choice. Even the current open AW Vs Seeking thread has relevant info spread amongst the bullshit on there.
 

[billybobsmith]

I'm showing my age but while reading that I had the music from Simon Bates "our tune" running through my head.

I remember listening to that as well

Seriously, every medium has it's pros and cons.
If I want to be balls deep, have some foot fetish, enjoy BDSM etc., then AW could have me sorted within an hour or two with little effort.  Then again, quite a few I've tried never respond, and when you can't even pay a women who's job it is, something could be wrong
SA has an initial outlay, that to some could be a guaranteed 30 min or so punt, and takes a lot of groundwork and time sometimes for little in the way of results through to some great times, sex etc.
Civvy street can range from "I'll shag anyone but you" to the love of your life.

There are women out there who will drop their knickers for very little.  Others that require a lot of cash, bullshitting, talking the talk and so on.  Even then, if you not some 6ft, Thor like man, even that may not be enough.
They're not all the same at the end of the day so what works for one may not work with another.  SA is proof of that where you target 20 women with "£200 for a shag?" and perhaps 3 will respond favourably.

I personally like more of an emotional connection during sex.  Sure I just want to cum in a woman from time to time with no emotional attachment, but at the end of the day, I love giving (or at least trying to give) a woman pleasure and having her put her head on your chest and wrap her arms around you as she dozes off afterwards is really nice and you don't generally get that from AW.

[Marmalade]

Thank you for your fulsome response TPreston. Did you quote it or write it? I think it would make an excellent introductory paragraph to the (somewhat wordy) UKP wiki page on SA. Perhaps someone will add it ...

[JAYZ]

I remember listening to that as well

Seriously, every medium has it's pros and cons.
If I want to be balls deep, have some foot fetish, enjoy BDSM etc., then AW could have me sorted within an hour or two with little effort.  Then again, quite a few I've tried never respond, and when you can't even pay a women who's job it is, something could be wrong
SA has an initial outlay, that to some could be a guaranteed 30 min or so punt, and takes a lot of groundwork and time sometimes for little in the way of results through to some great times, sex etc.
Civvy street can range from "I'll shag anyone but you" to the love of your life.

There are women out there who will drop their knickers for very little.  Others that require a lot of cash, bullshitting, talking the talk and so on.  Even then, if you not some 6ft, Thor like man, even that may not be enough.
They're not all the same at the end of the day so what works for one may not work with another.  SA is proof of that where you target 20 women with "£200 for a shag?" and perhaps 3 will respond favourably.

I personally like more of an emotional connection during sex.  Sure I just want to cum in a woman from time to time with no emotional attachment, but at the end of the day, I love giving (or at least trying to give) a woman pleasure and having her put her head on your chest and wrap her arms around you as she dozes off afterwards is really nice and you don't generally get that from AW.

I agree that having an emotional connection is is a bonus if it can be achieved. I appreciate that it is not for everyone however.

[Payyourwaymate]

Some girls are not on seeking for money full stop.  You just have to invest the time to find them.   I have fucked model type girls who would be £300 an hour on aw on seeking because i was willing to listen to them and stroke their ego.  It's pretty obvious women are simple creatures if you stroke their ego.

I'm sure these model women can find plenty of men that will listen to them and stroke their ego through their social media no? Men that will quickly go over to meet them at the drop of a hat if they let them but instead they go on to seeking for a listener?  Mannn  but fair enough I'll believe you; you have no reason to lie I would like to think.

[Payyourwaymate]

I'm sure there are girls out there getting £££££, but it's amazing how, at least away from the site, how a simple bit of attention, 69p bag of Haribo sweets etc. can get a girl fawning over you. 
As said earlier, some girls like the attention, whether it be "look at me!" through to someone giving them a second thought.
Quite a few do seem to have some emotional issues (maybe just lonely?) behind their outward façade, and if you're willing to spend time with them, listen to them, show the slightest kindness or token gesture (or even take advantage of them), the benefits can be reaped for practically nothing.

As for the girl with petrol money (around £80 every now and again she said), she's nice enough but not somewhere I would really go.  She's got a bit of a reputation from what I've heard from the other girls and would easily put out for dinner or something.

Well, originally when I joined SA, you were looking at £300-£400 a meet or thereabouts - maybe half of AW.  Eventually £150 became the norm with some getting freebies or meets for even less than that.
As others have said, it's not always about designer clothing, fancy jets etc. for women.  Some just need something to get them by, a friend, attention, a nice guy, escapism and so on.
It's amazing, to coin the phrase, how many women out there can be in a room full of people yet totally alone.

 

Hmmm, alright. An interesting perspective, thank you for your response.

It seems if the average price dropped to such a state, then it means that the golden days of girls thinking they could get £30k yearly salaries for turning up are over.  No wonder my old work colleague that claimed to previously have an SD quickly found herself pregnant with a workaholic guy that earns a lot of money  . what a shame   . 

[Punterenas]

I tend to agree, there is a lot of BS (yes yobbra, I'm talking about you you 50 something year old millionaire stud) on this thread but there's some truth too.
Obviously I would love a genuine emotional connection with any of the women that I see (nothing breaks the illusion of a GFE quicker than a girl who claims not to be a clock watcher getting itchy feet once the hour is up) but my dating skills and patter are legendarily bad (How I ever got married is still a complete mystery to me), women tend to be able to twist me round their little finger so SA would not be a good idea plus the time and effort I would have to put in to weed out the scammers, timewasters and leeches. Secondly my wife did give me a pass to get it elsewhere provided she doesn't know and the potential complications from anything more than a paid fuck could ruin several lives. I reckon I'm ok looking for 50 but nature is cruel (see incels thread) and I am grateful I have the means and the opportunity to see WGs. I do fantasise about a fuck buddy / FWB but its never going to happen. At least with a WG i know what the outlay and what I am getting will be.

[billybobsmith]

Hmmm, alright. An interesting perspective, thank you for your response.

It seems if the average price dropped to such a state, then it means that the golden days of girls thinking they could get £30k yearly salaries for turning up are over.  No wonder my old work colleague that claimed to previously have an SD quickly found herself pregnant with a workaholic guy that earns a lot of money  . what a shame   .

A lot of that £30k/year thing was hype from SA and then the media.
Whether much of that outside of the US ever existed, who knows for sure?
We've always said that anyone with that sort of disposable income wouldn't need to go on SA.  At the very least, a quick drive by in your top of the range car, and you'd have women creaming themselves over you.

Not sure if competition played a part in the pricing.  There weren't that many men on the site (lot of doubts about whether this was another scam site with 1 woman to 100 men or bots sending fake messages) yet loads of students etc. (in certain areas) so it was like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes. 
Coupled with the fact that £150/meet to student types worked out a quite a bit of (disposable) income to them, it's not surprising a lot were happy to accept these offers.
There's always the potential of more along the way as well....

My first SA meet a few years ago wanted £500 for our time.  I countered with £200 and she accepted.
Whilst it didn't go fully to plan, compared to AW, it was a completely different experience and well worth the outlay.

SA works as a numbers game.  Target a range of women with an offer and some will accept.  No point in paying over the odds unless you're made of money, bragging, or there's something/one you just have to have.

I'm sure these model women can find plenty of men that will listen to them and stroke their ego through their social media no? Men that will quickly go over to meet them at the drop of a hat if they let them but instead they go on to seeking for a listener?  Mannn  but fair enough I'll believe you; you have no reason to lie I would like to think.

Well, if you go to say a club and see some total hotty on the dancefloor, at the bar etc., you're pretty much guaranteed that she will be hit on all night. 
Perhaps she knows she's hot and loves the attention, but on the other hand, being groped, touched up, chatted up everywhere she goes maybe doesn't do it for her. 
Then along comes someone who perhaps isn't objectifying her in the same way, talks to her as a person and takes time to get to know her rather than saying what she wants to hear to bed her.

Then again, a lot of them will still end up shagging the same type every week and then complain about how they can't find anyone nice....

[Payyourwaymate]

A lot of that £30k/year thing was hype from SA and then the media.
Whether much of that outside of the US ever existed, who knows for sure?
We've always said that anyone with that sort of disposable income wouldn't need to go on SA.  At the very least, a quick drive by in your top of the range car, and you'd have women creaming themselves over you.

Not sure if competition played a part in the pricing.  There weren't that many men on the site (lot of doubts about whether this was another scam site with 1 woman to 100 men or bots sending fake messages) yet loads of students etc. (in certain areas) so it was like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes. 
Coupled with the fact that £150/meet to student types worked out a quite a bit of (disposable) income to them, it's not surprising a lot were happy to accept these offers.
There's always the potential of more along the way as well....

My first SA meet a few years ago wanted £500 for our time.  I countered with £200 and she accepted.
Whilst it didn't go fully to plan, compared to AW, it was a completely different experience and well worth the outlay.

SA works as a numbers game.  Target a range of women with an offer and some will accept.  No point in paying over the odds unless you're made of money, bragging, or there's something/one you just have to have.

Well, if you go to say a club and see some total hotty on the dancefloor, at the bar etc., you're pretty much guaranteed that she will be hit on all night. 
Perhaps she knows she's hot and loves the attention, but on the other hand, being groped, touched up, chatted up everywhere she goes maybe doesn't do it for her. 
Then along comes someone who perhaps isn't objectifying her in the same way, talks to her as a person and takes time to get to know her rather than saying what she wants to hear to bed her.

Then again, a lot of them will still end up shagging the same type every week and then complain about how they can't find anyone nice....

Very clear valid points, I found myself physically nodding in agreement with what you said. Thanks for your response once again. All the best .

[hungrypunt]

Some good advice on here and some total fantatsists.
Ive been a member of SA since it first started in the UK, and it has changed almost beyond recognition. Ive done the London thing, Z listers/ex failed coked up models, Ive done arrangements with single mums up North, USA,OZ, Spain,etc I had A big Russian once who i thought was gonna kill me , and young girls so sweet, I couldnt believe the how the nerves impacted on some of them,(of course these ones should be handled as such) but they are in need on cash and yes in some cases mentoring. I have mentored and still am supporting one girl and her family 4 years later, she turns 25 in July.

Ive had scammers, where the (supposed) big brothers and big dad turn up after the deed trying to be threatening, Ive had a girl wanting bruises so bad that she obvs needed help,(everything just no broken bones was the remit)  Ive been with girls who have gone on to successful careers and I still speak to after 3 or 4 years, Ive seen most of it I reckon. and Ill tell you .....the site was called seeking arrangement, and was set up for "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" to connect, no mongerels looking to use the innocent ones. EG see wild bills sds hodden cam videos from USA, slimeball.

Now back in the day if you aint got the dough to even join up then you should have questioned whether the site is right for you. If you are on looking for freebies, then again you should asked yourself the same question.
In some guys minds they thing after they have met and fucked a girl, because she hasnt asked outright for the money doesnt mean she didnt want it, THEY ALL want it, and yes some prefer gifts etc as it takes away the "escort" vibe, but they all signed up because the site promoted the "sugar". Just because they didnt ask, could have meant they are nervous, felt like a whore ( ive had many a girl cry when the money time came) so have many other Sds on the locked thread.

Ive had long term Sbs tell me about guys who "fucked them over" , but probably in some instances, this is where the guy THINKS its a freebie because she was too scared to ask, and the guys dont even realise, remember in some cases these girls are 18-21 yo and you've just fucked the living daylights out of them, possibly for the first time in there lives.
There are obvioulsy some hard noses bitches/scammers/blokes etc on there too, pic sellers, money up front blah blah blah but in general it used to be girls looking for the golden ticket., sold as such by Brandon Wade and his cronies.

Now fast forward 1028-2019, it is now more of a market place to trade "hours worths" of sex and not so much connection/help/mentoring (and yes sex) over weeks/months even years.
Its got more hard nose scammers/girls trying to get a few quid the other way round USING blokes, not blokes using girls. The prossie vibe is easy 50% Id say and when I say prossie vibe, i mean girls who dont have the time/courage/position to go to full time escorting. The what id call, "normal" Sbs, are still easy enough to spot , but are becoming more rare, as the same vibe has spread to tinder (sd profiles) craigslist yes craigslist, then the other copycat sites, whatsyourprice (not the best) secrectbenefits (shite) sugardaddy uk (a joke) loads of em, none really compare to SA.

One thing I would say, is forget the freebie aspect people on here are peddling and man the fuck up, pay your dues, help someone out with what they are asking and the rewards can follow.
We had a guy or 2 on the locked down thread a few years ago bragging that the girls in the end PAID HIM,  to let him fuck them in the garden shed, sometimes 3somes???  now no offence YOBRAA but your previous name on here wasnt Andy69 was it ??? as he started like your comments, and had a very similar "bragging" style, and he was laughed off the other thread. (was he called andy??...fk knows think he was) Im sure TP will correct me of Im wrong.

Anyway, Sa is not what it used to be, and there aint freebies flowing all over, but yes Its worth a months subs to see for yourself and decide if you can play the long game, Ive met many cracking girls form there, and see plenty from time to time for erm "a brew" even now, BUT if you aint got the dough , you know where to go
Its also good to know AW is still there for the "professional" girls who will get the job done when required

Good luck

[Spencer Fobby]

One thing I would say, is forget the freebie aspect people on here are peddling and man the fuck up, pay your dues, help someone out with what they are asking and the rewards can follow.

Exactly!!!!!

[Asurmen]

Some good advice on here and some total fantatsists.
Ive been a member of SA since it first started in the UK, and it has changed almost beyond recognition. Ive done the London thing, Z listers/ex failed coked up models, Ive done arrangements with single mums up North, USA,OZ, Spain,etc I had A big Russian once who i thought was gonna kill me , and young girls so sweet, I couldnt believe the how the nerves impacted on some of them,(of course these ones should be handled as such) but they are in need on cash and yes in some cases mentoring. I have mentored and still am supporting one girl and her family 4 years later, she turns 25 in July.

Ive had scammers, where the (supposed) big brothers and big dad turn up after the deed trying to be threatening, Ive had a girl wanting bruises so bad that she obvs needed help,(everything just no broken bones was the remit)  Ive been with girls who have gone on to successful careers and I still speak to after 3 or 4 years, Ive seen most of it I reckon. and Ill tell you .....the site was called seeking arrangement, and was set up for "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" to connect, no mongerels looking to use the innocent ones. EG see wild bills sds hodden cam videos from USA, slimeball.

Now back in the day if you aint got the dough to even join up then you should have questioned whether the site is right for you. If you are on looking for freebies, then again you should asked yourself the same question.
In some guys minds they thing after they have met and fucked a girl, because she hasnt asked outright for the money doesnt mean she didnt want it, THEY ALL want it, and yes some prefer gifts etc as it takes away the "escort" vibe, but they all signed up because the site promoted the "sugar". Just because they didnt ask, could have meant they are nervous, felt like a whore ( ive had many a girl cry when the money time came) so have many other Sds on the locked thread.

Ive had long term Sbs tell me about guys who "fucked them over" , but probably in some instances, this is where the guy THINKS its a freebie because she was too scared to ask, and the guys dont even realise, remember in some cases these girls are 18-21 yo and you've just fucked the living daylights out of them, possibly for the first time in there lives.
There are obvioulsy some hard noses bitches/scammers/blokes etc on there too, pic sellers, money up front blah blah blah but in general it used to be girls looking for the golden ticket., sold as such by Brandon Wade and his cronies.

Now fast forward 1028-2019, it is now more of a market place to trade "hours worths" of sex and not so much connection/help/mentoring (and yes sex) over weeks/months even years.
Its got more hard nose scammers/girls trying to get a few quid the other way round USING blokes, not blokes using girls. The prossie vibe is easy 50% Id say and when I say prossie vibe, i mean girls who dont have the time/courage/position to go to full time escorting. The what id call, "normal" Sbs, are still easy enough to spot , but are becoming more rare, as the same vibe has spread to tinder (sd profiles) craigslist yes craigslist, then the other copycat sites, whatsyourprice (not the best) secrectbenefits (shite) sugardaddy uk (a joke) loads of em, none really compare to SA.

One thing I would say, is forget the freebie aspect people on here are peddling and man the fuck up, pay your dues, help someone out with what they are asking and the rewards can follow.
We had a guy or 2 on the locked down thread a few years ago bragging that the girls in the end PAID HIM,  to let him fuck them in the garden shed, sometimes 3somes???  now no offence YOBRAA but your previous name on here wasnt Andy69 was it ??? as he started like your comments, and had a very similar "bragging" style, and he was laughed off the other thread. (was he called andy??...fk knows think he was) Im sure TP will correct me of Im wrong.

Anyway, Sa is not what it used to be, and there aint freebies flowing all over, but yes Its worth a months subs to see for yourself and decide if you can play the long game, Ive met many cracking girls form there, and see plenty from time to time for erm "a brew" even now, BUT if you aint got the dough , you know where to go
Its also good to know AW is still there for the "professional" girls who will get the job done when required

Good luck

A great post HP.

[snowbum]

The problem with SA is that it is very time consuming and you have to enjoy the chase.

Ghosting and last minute cancellations are the norm when they get cold feet or a better offer.

There are so many picture sellers and scammers who expect you to send money in advance.

Lost count of the ones that expect £2k monthly allowance or previous SD gave me £600 per meet.

Feels like they are getting coaching or just other SB's bragging.

It can work out but needs much tenacity and diplomacy !

[freeze44]

Some good advice on here and some total fantatsists.





One thing I would say, is forget the freebie aspect people on here are peddling and man the fuck up, pay your dues, help someone out with what they are asking and the rewards can follow.
We had a guy or 2 on the locked down thread a few years ago bragging that the girls in the end PAID HIM,  to let him fuck them in the garden shed, sometimes 3somes???  now no offence YOBRAA but your previous name on here wasnt Andy69 was it ??? as he started like your comments, and had a very similar "bragging" style, and he was laughed off the other thread. (was he called andy??...fk knows think he was) Im sure TP will correct me of Im wrong.

Think YOBRAA been called out 

[Kev40ish]

Think YOBRAA been called out 

The problem with seeking is it is difficult to call out the fantasist and dreamers, as there are a lot of inexperienced girls on there that do like to explore sex in many ways.

So anyone can really say anything and there is probably someone who has experienced a similar situation.

It when it happens often that you start to question it as in this case..

[Punterenas]

The problem with seeking is it is difficult to call out the fantasist and dreamers, as there are a lot of inexperienced girls on there that do like to explore sex in many ways.

So anyone can really say anything and there is probably someone who has experienced a similar situation.

It when it happens often that you start to question it as in this case..

I get the impression from people who have been on SA for some time that this may have been the case when S.A. started but that it is no longer the case.
Most half decent women will have many different options to "explore their sexuality" (ever heard of Match.com? They're subs are equally eyewateringly high but with a much lower chance of meeting a wrong un!).
SA was and is primarily a site for SBs to make some money. Of course you may have chemistry with someone you meet and take it into more relationship type territory but that could happen with a WG (especially a part timer). It is not a dating or NSA sex site.

[leo_26]

Do you have to be extremely attractive to have any luck on seeking like you do with conventional dating sites such as POF or Tinder?

[Steve2]

Do you have to be extremely attractive to have any luck on seeking like you do with conventional dating sites such as POF or Tinder?

The more attractive, the better your chances

[JAYZ]

The problem with seeking is it is difficult to call out the fantasist and dreamers, as there are a lot of inexperienced girls on there that do like to explore sex in many ways.

So anyone can really say anything and there is probably someone who has experienced a similar situation.

It when it happens often that you start to question it as in this case..

does that mean some young women use SA to find perhaps an older man to give them guidance in sensual pleasures? I have met a few escorts who say they definitely prefer being with older men who have more experience than with men of their own age.

[TPreston]

does that mean some young women use SA to find perhaps an older man to give them guidance in sensual pleasures? I have met a few escorts who say they definitely prefer being with older men who have more experience than with men of their own age.

it something girls will tell the men paying them

[NightKid]

it something girls will tell the men paying them

Bit of a half-truth in it though, I suppose.

[Brumish]

Do you have to be extremely attractive to have any luck on seeking like you do with conventional dating sites such as POF or Tinder?

Attractiveness is quite subjective. Majority of the time that too can be overcome with Pound notes.

[Babu]

I just got banned of SA for soliciting sex - does anyone know how to get round it? 

[wristjob]

As somebody who has never really taken notice of SA before - how exactly does it work? I assumed you book 1 girl for months on end but this thread almost points at 1/2 meetings - how long typically and what is a typical price?