Author Topic: Kiev, Ukraine punting tips ?  (Read 28544 times)

Well once you've booked up let me know  :D

I'm out there March also; at this rate maybe it's worth a UKP meet-up?  :yahoo: :lol:

Offline VanceRef

Does anyone have any numbers that they can share?

Back from a 2 week trip here (ended up extending my stay as the flights were cheap and I was having too much of a good time!) and here are a list of nightclubs, brothels, bars etc with details for anyone interested and what you can expect. Also towards the bottom is a recommendation on a couple of pay for services.

The well known clubs:

D-Fleur - Higher end, used to be called D*lux but has been rebranded and refurbished. Under the previous name I highly rated this place. Now it’s a little bit more expensive, although nothing outrageous. On both nights I went I had an OK time - 4:1 ratio to women:men but quite a few prostitutes in the higher end (4,000 upwards/ £100 upwards range). Don’t attempt to go unless you are very smartly dressed. Plenty of English speaking girls.

Caribbean Club - Lower end, wear pretty much anything except sportswear and you’ll be allowed in. More of a cabaret type club with singers and dancers at various intervals on some nights. Quite a few prostitutes here and some very hard to spot some until they whisper in your ear how much they charge (which is pretty early on so you don’t waste your time and theirs). Some are even paid for by the club itself as you need to pay the club a commission on their services. Prices ranged between 2,500 and 4,000 (£68/£115) for the girls for 2/3 hours. The ones who stand out as prostitutes are the higher end and the ones who just look like girl-next-door girls are at the lower end.
However there are also plenty of local girls looking to hookup which won’t cost you anything except a 200 (£5) taxi fair to send them home in the morning! Had plenty of luck here without paying for it but good luck in working out who’s who! I’d say 50% of the girls I spoke to here could understand English.

Chi - High end club full of gorgeous girls who document their lives on Instagram while they are there. Pretentious place. Had 1 good night here and picked someone up but the second time I went back there were hardly any women there and it was just a cock fest. Worth going to if you like the higher class of girl just might be a bit hit an miss with how many girls are actually there. The days I went were Friday/Saturday nights so should have been busy. Lots of English speaking girls.

Forsage - Student club situated near the university area. Only 18-25s go here and you don’t find many tourists in there. If you’re over 40 you’ll stand out like a sore thumb - one poor chap spent the whole night leaning on the bar with no-one near him. Had a brilliant couple of nights here and because it’s a young locals place not a prostitute in sight, just genuine girls looking a for a good night. Being younger girls a lot of them spoke English aswell which is handy. Easy to chat with girls and pick some up. Everything was extremely cheap here and getting laid in a threesome cost me 1/4 bottle of Vodka!

Shooters - Very small club and a bit of a mixed bag in terms of a review. Years ago it was rammed with arrogant aggressive Turks and I hadn’t been since but decided to give it another go and it’s improved a lot. Plenty of girls looking for a good night here and if you’re out of luck they’ll always be a couple of paid for girls sitting at the bar. If you pay for a table here the venue always provide you with a couple of girls - although they don’t tell you this (or probably admit it) it’s pretty obvious when you see the same girls dancing with groups of ugly blokes who booked a table on the 3 nights I visited. I suspect this in common place in most clubs. Most girls I’ve spoken to here could speak English.

The unknown bars: Take a taxi to the other side of the river to the East and you’ll find loads of locals bars and clubs. There are a strip of them on Rusanivska Embarkment or you could try around Mykoly Bazhana (Vodka Grill and a few other places around there) - you won’t have to pay any girls in these areas, all local girls looking for a good time. This was my favourite place to start a night out and sometime take girls with you to club back in the centre. Being a locals area finding an English speaking girl can be a bit harder but they do exist.

General nightclub advice: If you plan on staying in any of these clubs for any length of time then I highly recommend getting a table. Whatever you pay for the table is, in nearly all clubs, just a deposit for drink so you don’t actually pay for the table. If you get a table and have a bottle of Vodka/Gin/Whiskey on your table then it’s like flies around shit. If you fail to pull a girl when you’ve got a table and bottle of drink then there is something wrong with you. It helps if you’re travelling with a friend or two as this lowers the bill as it’s split between more than one person, and most girls are in pairs, 3s or 4s. Also, don’t get too drunk - girls don’t like it if you can’t talk or stand up. Another tip, if you’re buying a girl drinks and towards the end of the night when you want to get them home and they suggest going to a karaoke bar say no - they are on commission to get you there. It’s also shit unless you can sing in Ukrainian/Russian!

Now the pay for services....

Salon Dream - Wow...The girls are out of this world. Prices between £40 and £100 for a body to body massage and various other extras depending on which service you go for. Highly recommend the two girl VIP which includes plenty of touching and kissing both girls. Expensive if you consider how much you can pay to fuck someone here but it’s a very good service and worth every penny if you’ve got some free time during the day. I used it twice in the two weeks I was there.

Brothels - Hard to describe where the place I went is as I’d consumed a bottle of Vodka and various other drinks before arriving but from what I remember it is on Sofiivska Street going towards Independence Square about halfway down the road set back behind the buildings. If you get in a taxi and they ask if you want to go to a brothel, which they will all ask you if you’re a bloke in a taxi late at night with no girl with you, then say yes near independence square and it will probably be the same one. We negotiated a price with the taxi driver before we were taken there but didn’t specify extras - at that time of the night/early morning I didn’t need any, just a hole to pump for an hour. Everything was with a condom and no reverse oral. I think it cost 2000 UAH for an hour. Good selection of girls once inside. A girl for everyone, big tits, small tits, size 6, size 18. You sit down in a lounge area surrounded by girls in lingerie sat around with drinks though then line up infront of you and you take your pick. While the girl you choose goes off to get ready the other girls look after you. There are plenty of brothels like this around Kiev.

Escorting websites - If someone has glossy photo shoot photos then most likely B&S. Stay clear of the bargain basement 800 UAH girls - those are fucking dreadful. At £22 an hour you shouldn’t really be surprised but don’t be tempted unless you’ve just got in at 5am and can’t see straight. Remember you can always send a girl away if you aren’t happy with what has turned up but you’ll have to pay her taxi - about 150-200 UAH (they’ll claim!) It’s easier just going to a club and looking for a Sex Worker there as you can just see them in the flesh and take your pick - you’ll pay the same as booking online but will have the benefit of chatting to them for free before deciding to proceed or not. They won’t require a drink buying for them and will leave immediately so they can fuck you and get back to the club. Always negotiate on the time of the meeting and extras though before handing over any money.

Prostitute friendly hotels:
Hotel Tourist - Need to sign in with reception and require ID
Royal De Paris - No need to sign in but it’s a shithole.
Dnipro Hotel - They used to charge you if they arrive after 9pm
Ukraine Hotel - Sometimes have to sign in as security at the lift but a couple of times there was no one there.

There are probably a lot more prostitute friendly hotels as prostitution is rife and they frequent a lot of the hotel lobbies but above are the only ones I’ve stayed in. My advise as always is get an apartment to save the hassle but not everyone likes to do this.

When you went to forsage and had a 3 some did you go alone or with friends? I'm traveling over in early march by myself and didn't want to go alone if this was something strange. Would I be able to chat to people without seeming like a loner (may happen in the UK)

With a couple of friends but there are plenty of people doing it alone out there. I’m usually with friends but I’ve done it alone a handful of times and it doesn’t seem to make much difference as a lot of girls are just in pairs anyway rather than out in groups like they seem to do in the UK.

Mr Anonymous good tips and good intel on Kiev. I'm in Ukraine every few months for work and yes any decent looking chap in good shape can get laid without paying . For P4p services In Kiev decent looking girls are looking for atleast 100 USD/hr with premium club girls charging a lot more ..The apartment girls are Ok but there are hygiene , no oral without and no Gfe issues .
Most of the websites have fake pics and the girl arriving on the doorsteps is far from the pic on the website.
Pulling a girl in club will require social skills and  bringing your top game to the table. :drinks: Chi and De Fleur girls charge european rates unless you are in good shape and are a great charmer.



Does anyone have any numbers that they can share?

Apartment girls change numbers often and IMHO it would be better to visit apartment and decide there or go for outcall next time on with the chosen girl. Most websites have fake pics and girl invariably will be different from the pics....

Offline webpunter

GC,

thanks for the intel
Adding to anonymous input
 :thumbsup:

Looking at a long w/e trip
For EE land have done berlin, warsaw & budapest
Wanna try somewhere new

Think with the vagaries of the escorts, especially outcall, i'll start with the parlours
Any recommendations ?
TIA

Webby

Edit:  will deffo go 'on the pull' with plans B C D E ... in reserve
And parlours for hangover horn cure late morning early afternoon  :yahoo:
 
« Last Edit: February 05, 2020, 10:00:21 pm by webpunter »

Wow guys great thread whats the situation with C19 Do have to quarantine on entry there wouldn't mind a short break

Wow guys great thread whats the situation with C19 Do have to quarantine on entry there wouldn't mind a short break

Currently it'a 2 week quarantine for all foreigners when they arrive and you have to give your details and location of abode.  But word is they aren't really enforcing it.  Not sure I'd want to risk it as there are prison sentences for even minor violations of quarantine.

Hopefully it will change soon as it is changing everywhere else.

Offline Spurt

Thinking of a trip later in the year .The salon's on line look incredible is the reality as good as that advertised?

Offline Sullivan

Thinking of a trip later in the year .The salon's on line look incredible is the reality as good as that advertised?

The women are fucking amazing. Everywhere you look. WGs and non.

And you go to a venue and it’s all local girls. No Romanians bussed in, living in digs and resenting the punters.

The first girl I slept with and one of the masseuses who did the happy beginning and ending and b2b are amongst the prettiest girls I’ve ever seen, never mind had sex with or wanked me off.

I’ve no idea what the story is with COVID or quarantine, but don’t worry about the quality of women.

Offline itsmydrug

Probably a stupid question but is there a good time of the year to go?  Assumed it would be better to go out of the normal tourist season?  More normal civie lasses for me then  :lol:

Offline maniaxx

in the summer, June, July, August..winter is fkin cold in Ukraine, expect -10, -20 December, January, February :scare:

I go all year round. Best time to avoid is when champions league football is on though - if you’re paying for it prices seem to increase. Punting in spring, summer, autumn and winter is fine - doesn’t make any difference. But yes winter can be extremely cold (-10 and windy) but it doesn’t stop the clubs being full!

Offline itsmydrug

Thank you guys, have been wanting to for for a couple of years but never got around to it, going by myself kind of puts me off.  Fell in love with Slavic girls on my trip St Pertersberg, i honestly got bored of telling 10/10 lasses to piss off in the clubs it was crazy.

As for the cold im not too fussed, used to those kind of temperatures as big into skiing, lust as long as the local girls still go to the bars & clubs its all good with me  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: July 09, 2020, 12:17:25 pm by itsmydrug »

Offline bbois77

Anyone been recently, if so how did you get on with rules regarding COVID health insurance?

Restrictions in response to coronavirus
Entry and borders
From 15 June, Ukraine has reopened its borders to foreign nationals. Upon arrival, all foreign nationals will be required to provide proof of health insurance that covers COVID-19 observation and treatment for the duration of their stay. Insurance must be purchased from a company registered in Ukraine or a foreign company that has a representative office or an insurance partner in Ukraine.


Offline TomB22

Ukraine Covid situation is not good despite the fact that borders are open. I would be careful planning a trip there.

Offline Jimbo1984

Ukraine Covid situation is not good despite the fact that borders are open. I would be careful planning a trip there.

Thanks for that info, I'd imagined it's not going to be great but could you elaborate? Are you living there? Have you been recently? Do you know anybody who has been?

Offline wtfb


Foreign office advising against all but essential travel or in some areas no travel at all. Insurance won't be valid because of this advice but you pays your money and makes your choice.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine has more details.

You can get travel insurance cover to countries even when the FCO advise against travel..  this link is the one that I know.  It's surprisingly reasonable as well.
https://www.battleface.com/

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/ukraine-to-re-seal-its-borders-as-corona-cases-continue-to-spike/

Borders shut again until October 31st.  Not sure if it's the same as last time where all flights are just cancelled, meaning if you are there now you are stuck there until borders open again.  I wish I was there and stuck there, blinding excuse to the missus to stay in the land of pretty women instead of bonkers UK!

Offline webpunter

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/ukraine-to-re-seal-its-borders-as-corona-cases-continue-to-spike/

Borders shut again until October 31st.  Not sure if it's the same as last time where all flights are just cancelled, meaning if you are there now you are stuck there until borders open again.  I wish I was there and stuck there, blinding excuse to the missus to stay in the land of pretty women instead of bonkers UK!

Err subsequently exposed as being fake
Message to the missus - please send ££

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Offline piotrskut

Err subsequently exposed as being fake
Message to the missus - please send ££

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what's fake? ukraine is closed

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine

Offline wtfb


Unless it's moved, Valencia is in Spain! No relevance to Ukraine at all fake or not

what's fake? ukraine is closed

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine

I was assuming he meant the picture of the news story he posted was fake

Also I had heard conflicting reports that the closure was only until September instead of october as the news article suggests. This link seems to confirm September date as I have heard from locals, but locals also say they are very likely to extend the closure beyond september 28th unless things get much better..
« Last Edit: September 01, 2020, 06:22:49 pm by CockMonster »

Offline MrT222

This is an interesting thread. I know fuck all about Ukraine in all honesty - what's the language barrier like?

If you're able to pick up locals, presumably it can't be that bad.

Offline Jimbo1984

This is an interesting thread. I know fuck all about Ukraine in all honesty - what's the language barrier like?

If you're able to pick up locals, presumably it can't be that bad.

English is widely spoken and understood amongst the young and especially amongst birds you'd wanna smash

For everything else theres Google translate

Offline Mazarin

English is widely spoken and understood amongst the young and especially amongst birds you'd wanna smash

For everything else theres Google translate
You must have struck lucky when it comes to the language. I was there about a year ago and apart from the hotel, most people were really struggling to understand and communicate in English. However, the language barrier certainly did not get in the way of a most enjoyable time and I am an old guy!!

This is an interesting thread. I know fuck all about Ukraine in all honesty - what's the language barrier like?

If you're able to pick up locals, presumably it can't be that bad.

The younger you go for (18-25) the more likely you are to find good English speakers.

Online vindici

Going to add to this thread rather than create a new one.

I have a business trip planned to Kiev from Thursday 19th November for a week. Gonna try and get a few outcalls in during that time. I'll post my own trip report once done, however in the meantime if anyone is about and would like to meet up, send me a pm 😎👍

I've done my research and will try to book from UKRGO and some of the other sites listed in this thread. I'm not too concerned about B&S, since I prefer older curvier ladies, more about quality of service i.e. GFE & OWO should be on the menu.

Any tips regarding curvy milf types would also be appreciated 🤪


Offline FLYING BLUE

Aahh, Kiev - Scene of my most embarrassing moment ever, in punting, as I've reported elsewhere on this very forum  :cry: :blush: :blush:


I have a business trip planned to Kiev from Thursday 19th November for a week.

It would be wise to see them first incall and then call them for an outcall later on - B & S in that part of the world is quite common. Although you might like old and curvy ladies the hygiene standards amongst some women there are pretty low and hence the former words of advice.
Most WGs that I came across charge around 1000 UAH extra/hr for owo so negotiating this before would help. If you speak russian even to intermediate level it can change your game to the next level. There are lot of single women(civvies & pro) in late 30's and upwards there (and surrounding places) looking for 'business' man so you I doubt you will be disappointed. Looking forward to your debrief in coming days.  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 01:55:35 pm by Greenchilli »

The younger you go for (18-25) the more likely you are to find good English speakers.

18 are they available so young ?

Offline Marmalade

It would be wise to see them first incall and then call them for an outcall later on - B & S in that part of the world is quite common. Although you might like old and curvy ladies the hygiene standards amongst some women there are pretty low and hence the former words of advice.

I thought this was cute... "I'll show you all the holes on VIBER"  :yahoo:
shorturl.at/gwES6

But annoying there's no prices shown.  :thumbsdown: