Emotional Attachment Syndrome

[Brazilian Martian]

Absolute joke, complete utter Mug

[NigelF]

when you leave it is a peck on the cheek or the lips.....always brings me back to the real world...sorry to those who are deluded 

I always thought that was because they knew I wouldn't want a full on snog. I love my DFK but after I cum, I prefer to keep it lip-based, at least for a good few minutes. If they go full on afterwards it always seems a bit yucky to me (I seem to be much more aware of the sensations too) - the same applies to good looking civvies as well (not that I've had many of them  ).

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said.

[bigmanbigman]

Look a punter to a wg is like a dogs shit on her shoe ! Not nice but if your job is walking dog's you cant avoid it.
Doesn't mean she has to like it !

[VOLPONE]

Look a punter to a wg is like a dogs shit on her shoe ! Not nice but if your job is walking dog's you cant avoid it.
Doesn't mean she has to like it !

Brilliantly put !!

[Honolulu]

Look a punter to a wg is like a dogs shit on her shoe ! Not nice but if your job is walking dog's you cant avoid it.
Doesn't mean she has to like it !

You got a case of the low self esteem mate. 

[monstar]

Ok that did not go so well. I hate to admit it you guys where right. Hpwever I am pissed about people on here going through my posts and finding out who the WG was, emailing her on AW and telling her shit that I was not saying on here. Not cool. Now knowing what I now know, I could not give a crap about how she feels about it but it was compromising me. However on the other side of the coin you did me a favour.

I'm still a 'fluffy' bell end and I still don't agree with alot of your opinions but you where right on this one.

This is how the whole sorry incident transpired. I can see it now with clarity and not through 'fluffy' tinted goggles.

Recap: So I asked her out. What I noticed when I did that was she dropped out of escort bullshit mode and was a totally different woman. The way she looked at me was totally different. She explained why she didnt want to date. I was cool with it. I said I understand and she was right. Never pushed it. I was ready to fuck off and not return. However she then adds 'I'll think about it'. 'I'll see you in 2 weeks and invite you for a coffee'.

2 weeks later. There's been no contact from either side. So I text her 'How about that coffee?'. No answer. 3 days later I send another text on the lines of 'Listen I'm not trying to get free services. I propose I'll pay for an in-call and all we do is have a coffee and get to know each other'. No answer. 5 days later. I go the official route. Call her and leave a voice mail requesting an in-call. Texted with a follow up as I always do. All very official. No mention of coffee etc.

A couple of hours later I get a email on AW 'I don't think we should meet. I don't want to get to know you. I don't mix business with pleasure. This is my job (really? I thought she was a flower girl). Take care'. Bullshit escort signature at the end.

I replied with a lengthy email, not nasty, stateing the facts of how she had not played fair and got into my head. Have a happy life. Thanks for the good time. Blocked her on AW, deleted off my HL and deleted from my phone.

After speaking with my regular about this I agree with her opinion and that this woman seen I liked her, I am fluffy and played me like a cheap violin. She got £300 out of me in 2 weeks, 3 positive ratings and a fluffy field review. What did I get? I got emotionaly fucked.

I'm not going to post who it is (I know a number of people know who she is by now so feel free to reveal who it is. I don't care) because I don't want to come across as sour grapes but this is what I now think of this woman from an objective point of view.

Physically very attractive and sexy
Very smiley, happy, chatty, fluffy etc. However I now believe this to be part of the whole dog and pony show. Not the real her.
The services are pretty good but very generic.
A good GFE but too much bullshit thrown in there trying to make you think you are special compared to every other client.

Ok now here is the downside.
She constantly talks about herself 'Are you nervous because I am powerful and sexy?' . 'Are you addicted to me?'. She showed no interest in me. Did not use my name until the 3rd meet. However I knew everything about her and her 'real' name. The woman is borderline narcissistic.
Talked about other clients and even showed me texts from a client who was 'addicted to her'. God knows who she is showing my texts and emails to and what she says about me. Over stepping boundaries much?
Got really shitty with me on the phone because she thought I was posting, on here, that she was offering free services. Didn't care I had been compromised and that I was also upset about it. I took her to the posts I had made. She said everything was cool and there is no problem but still spoke to me shitty and did not apologise.

So if you want a reasonable GFE, with a curvy, attractive, sexy EE with narcissistic tendencies, lots of fluffiness and absolute verbal bullshit that she has used on the 5 previous clients, you could do worse. Also £100 is a good price.

However if you are fluffy like me keep your guard up or she will go for the jugular, manipulate you and get into your head. I would not believe anything she tells you.

It's not that she said no to an off the clock date it is how she acted, treated me after and dealt with the whole situation after I had asked her. We could have talked it out and more than likely we could have carried on our meetings as business transactions. Because of the fact that she did not want to talk about it was a big red flag.

I feel I had to get this out because there is so much emphasis put on being very respectful to WGs which I am and certainly the majority of clients are as well but it seems to be ok for some WGs (most certainly not all) to show little respect in return. I was royally, emotionally screwed with no apology and no explanation. Yes I was stupid to let her get into my head but the fact is she should not took advantage.

I could become a cynic after this but I wont change who I am. My guard is well and truely up now and this will NEVER happen again and I wont judge all escorts by her low professional standards.

I have lost interest in any sort of GFE. I don't want to be fed bullshit by a WG. All I want now is genuine honesty from an escort. Im not there to get my ego stroked. It doesn't need to be. I'll be just sticking with my regular for the time being as she is genuine, definately honest, never stroked my ego and and all round good woman. When my wounds have healed I shall venture forth and book someone new.

This is why EAS and believing the GFE act is more than an act is not good for either side. Unfortunately it's always going to happen as people will believe 'there is a chance'.

I'm not trying to be harsh JP:
In our current times ignoring multiple texts is her telling you she isn't interested. This may be shitty but she knows her alternative solution isn't great either - you wanted a clear answer. She gave you a clear fair answer that you didn't like and look how you reacted - read the words you use before and after. She used to be a girl you wanted to date then suddenly she is a narcissist and all the ploys that attracted you to her are now deceitful tricks. I'd say she is just being good at her job and you blurred the lines because of EAS and then got mad at HER.

Plus then your regular affirmed your beliefs - do you really think she is going to tell you that you were wrong and potentially lose her regular (income)? 

It's been said multiple times before, to definitively cure EAS or prove she likes you for you (not wallet) - ask for a free booking. 

[JohnnyPark]

Look a punter to a wg is like a dogs shit on her shoe ! Not nice but if your job is walking dog's you cant avoid it.
Doesn't mean she has to like it !

Yes indeed. I am no longer as fluffy as I was. The positive is, it give me a reality check.

I did rag on the GFE earlier but my very first time was the GFE with a highly recommended and stunning woman called Sexy Lou from Manchester. I left that meet with a spring in my step and a big smile on my face. I left the Hungarian woman with a feel of confusion and thinking 'do not see that woman again'.

Here's the difference. Sexy Lou is British and like all UK women, I have met, they set the boundaries from the off. The GFE is very good. When that has finished the UK woman tends to switch back into a more business like role. Still friendly, so you can have a good chat but the boundaries are still in tact. Hug, smile, kiss on the cheek. You then leave and everybody is happy.

Ok Hungarian woman. Starts well. All over me like a cheap suit. Get into the GFE. The bullshit is constant. 'You are such the sweetest man', 'You are so cute', 'Am i making you nervous because I am sexy', 'will you dream about me?' Etc, etc, etc. Wanting constant validation.

Ok mid session break and it's on to 'oh poor me spiel' about why she become an escort, her family, going on holiday by herself and I should go with her, she's single, why can't she get a boyfriend?, thinking about giving up escorting, going to Uni, other clients having bad breath. Etc etc etc

Part 2 is then finished, 30 mins past curfew. In and out the shower. Said escort sitting on bed. More waffle this time saying 'don't get addicted to me'....what???. She proceeds to talk about another client who had been seeing her for 2 years and was 'addicted to her'. She then proceded to show me texts from him. I scanned them and pretended to read them. I was not comfortable with looking at another man's text.

Ok 1 hour 40. All done. More hugging and FK and I am out the door. Absolute head fuck. It felt like an emotional rollercoaster. The sex was great. She come across as a nice, friendly, funny woman but what the fuck was all that personal, poor me, vunerable woman crap and over stepping boundaries talking about other clients? My inner voice said 'Do not go back to that woman. It will end badly'. However my fluffy side and genitals won that argument. If she does the same routine with other clients as she did with me that must seriously mentaly drain her.

In a matter of less than 2 months, since I last seen her, her ratings have gone through the roof. Her profile has gone from selfies to professional photos and there is a video which will cost you the princely sum of £18 to watch!
So she is obviously doing something right. From experience I know what that is.

You can take this as a semi-review so you know what to expect if you go to see her.

She has a Hungarian mate who is very sexy and I have also been to see her. A total contrast in experience. Very honest and difficult to make conversation with but I prefer the honesty to the dishonest fluff. I am fluffy but I like honest fluff. I enjoyed the meet, I left with a smile and not my head up my arse.

[bigmanbigman]

To see a wg is to pay for a dream meeting
Its not fair for you to complain
THEY are too good at their
Job !

[JohnnyPark]

This is why EAS and believing the GFE act is more than an act is not good for either side. Unfortunately it's always going to happen as people will believe 'there is a chance'.

I'm not trying to be harsh JP:
In our current times ignoring multiple texts is her telling you she isn't interested. This may be shitty but she knows her alternative solution isn't great either - you wanted a clear answer. She gave you a clear fair answer that you didn't like and look how you reacted - read the words you use before and after. She used to be a girl you wanted to date then suddenly she is a narcissist and all the ploys that attracted you to her are now deceitful tricks. I'd say she is just being good at her job and you blurred the lines because of EAS and then got mad at HER.

Plus then your regular affirmed your beliefs - do you really think she is going to tell you that you were wrong and potentially lose her regular (income)? 

It's been said multiple times before, to definitively cure EAS or prove she likes you for you (not wallet) - ask for a free booking. 

I understand what you are saying but read my last post. I didn't want to date her. I wanted to spend time off the clock with her and get to know her. That's all I said to her.

Why I am saying these things now is because yeh I am pissed but I also can see it for what it was and not through fluffy goggles. She certainly does have narcissistic traits. Ok she may have been genuine about telling her personal, inner diary, I don't know. She has feelings, needs to unload like everbody else and felt she could trust me. I'm a good, genuine guy who is really easy going I can understand that. However you gotta remember the environment you are in. You are getting sexually intimate with each other. Feelings are amplified. This is not 1 of the HR girls in work I am talking to on lunch.

As I have said all I did was listen. I liked her in the first 30 seconds of the meeting. I could feel something different. No doubt she tapped into this. Who reveals their personal life and shows texts off clients in the first meet? As far as I am concerned it was her who over stepped the boundaries and blurred the lines. Over the next 2 meets she just then continued to dig deeper. She could have backed off but didn't. I NEVER once asked her any personal questions or tryed to become the white knight. Everything she revealed about herself was down to her. I would maybe expect this kind of detail after multiple meets over an extended period of time. However she shared from day 1.

Ok at the end of meet 3 I ask to see her off the clock. Now the dynamic changes. She slips out of escort mode and starts talking about her life and her plans. She is clearly getting upset. I don't want her to cry. I kiss her on the forehead and say I understand, you are right. I get dressed and apologise for asking her out and to just forget it.

I have told this so many times but all that comes back is I had EAS and blurred the lines. No. I still standby that she blurred the lines. She handled it badly after I had asked her out and showed no respect for my feelings or me as a client.

Nothing nasty or bad has transpired between us. She said no to my in-call. I respected that. I wished her a happy life. Blocked her on AW, deleted her on my phone and I never want to see her again.

As an escort she is good at her job. She's definately not a bad person. I just think she handled, what transpired between us very badly. I honestly could not tell you if she is a lovely person or not. I got snippets of the real her mixed in with her escort ego. I also got her shitty side.

I don't know if she felt something for me or not. Maybe she did and did not know how to process it. To me she just came off as deceitful and self serving.

That's all I have to say on the matter. I am finished venting.

[Brazilian Martian]

I understand what you are saying but read my last post. I didn't want to date her. I wanted to spend time off the clock with her and get to know her. That's all I said to her.

Why I am saying these things now is because yeh I am pissed but I also can see it for what it was and not through fluffy goggles. She certainly does have narcissistic traits. Ok she may have been genuine about telling her personal, inner diary, I don't know. She has feelings, needs to unload like everbody else and felt she could trust me. I'm a good, genuine guy who is really easy going I can understand that. However you gotta remember the environment you are in. You are getting sexually intimate with each other. Feelings are amplified. This is not 1 of the HR girls in work I am talking to on lunch.

As I have said all I did was listen. I liked her in the first 30 seconds of the meeting. I could feel something different. No doubt she tapped into this. Who reveals their personal life and shows texts off clients in the first meet? As far as I am concerned it was her who over stepped the boundaries and blurred the lines. Over the next 2 meets she just then continued to dig deeper. She could have backed off but didn't. I NEVER once asked her any personal questions or tryed to become the white knight. Everything she revealed about herself was down to her. I would maybe expect this kind of detail after multiple meets over an extended period of time. However she shared from day 1.

Ok at the end of meet 3 I ask to see her off the clock. Now the dynamic changes. She slips out of escort mode and starts talking about her life and her plans. She is clearly getting upset. I don't want her to cry. I kiss her on the forehead and say I understand, you are right. I get dressed and apologise for asking her out and to just forget it.

I have told this so many times but all that comes back is I had EAS and blurred the lines. No. I still standby that she blurred the lines. She handled it badly after I had asked her out and showed no respect for my feelings or me as a client.

Nothing nasty or bad has transpired between us. She said no to my in-call. I respected that. I wished her a happy life. Blocked her on AW, deleted her on my phone and I never want to see her again.

As an escort she is good at her job. She's definately not a bad person. I just think she handled, what transpired between us very badly. I honestly could not tell you if she is a lovely person or not. I got snippets of the real her mixed in with her escort ego. I also got her shitty side.

I don't know if she felt something for me or not. Maybe she did and did not know how to process it. To me she just came off as deceitful and self serving.

That's all I have to say on the matter. I am finished venting.

Seriously what are you trying to achieve by posting all of this on a forum ? You come across as a real buffoon with your ramblings

[JohnnyPark]

To see a wg is to pay for a dream meeting
Its not fair for you to complain
THEY are too good at their
Job !

Of course it is fair. Just like it is fair for the WGs on SAAFE to complain about us.

[JohnnyPark]

Seriously what are you trying to achieve by posting all of this on a forum ? You come across as a real buffoon with your ramblings

I said I'm done. Are you mad bro?

[monstar]

I understand what you are saying but read my last post. I didn't want to date her. I wanted to spend time off the clock with her and get to know her. That's all I said to her.

Why I am saying these things now is because yeh I am pissed but I also can see it for what it was and not through fluffy goggles. She certainly does have narcissistic traits. Ok she may have been genuine about telling her personal, inner diary, I don't know. She has feelings, needs to unload like everbody else and felt she could trust me. I'm a good, genuine guy who is really easy going I can understand that. However you gotta remember the environment you are in. You are getting sexually intimate with each other. Feelings are amplified. This is not 1 of the HR girls in work I am talking to on lunch.

As I have said all I did was listen. I liked her in the first 30 seconds of the meeting. I could feel something different. No doubt she tapped into this. Who reveals their personal life and shows texts off clients in the first meet? As far as I am concerned it was her who over stepped the boundaries and blurred the lines. Over the next 2 meets she just then continued to dig deeper. She could have backed off but didn't. I NEVER once asked her any personal questions or tryed to become the white knight. Everything she revealed about herself was down to her. I would maybe expect this kind of detail after multiple meets over an extended period of time. However she shared from day 1.

Ok at the end of meet 3 I ask to see her off the clock. Now the dynamic changes. She slips out of escort mode and starts talking about her life and her plans. She is clearly getting upset. I don't want her to cry. I kiss her on the forehead and say I understand, you are right. I get dressed and apologise for asking her out and to just forget it.

I have told this so many times but all that comes back is I had EAS and blurred the lines. No. I still standby that she blurred the lines. She handled it badly after I had asked her out and showed no respect for my feelings or me as a client.

Nothing nasty or bad has transpired between us. She said no to my in-call. I respected that. I wished her a happy life. Blocked her on AW, deleted her on my phone and I never want to see her again.

As an escort she is good at her job. She's definately not a bad person. I just think she handled, what transpired between us very badly. I honestly could not tell you if she is a lovely person or not. I got snippets of the real her mixed in with her escort ego. I also got her shitty side.

I don't know if she felt something for me or not. Maybe she did and did not know how to process it. To me she just came off as deceitful and self serving.

That's all I have to say on the matter. I am finished venting.

There was no feelings on her side, it was all an act. You cannot get annoyed she did her job well - you returned three times in two weeks. She tried to let you down gently (ignored texts) but you wanted the answer.

This is a classic case of EAS and why it's so hard for punters with it to acknowledge even when it's pointed out. You tried the EAS test (free booking - social or sexual) and are still questioning if she had feelings for you... 

Luckily on this occasion you didn't give her a 'loan' or waste too much of your time. Live and learn. 

[Shearer1955]

Sounds like you are in the wrong game because you "want to believe" this girl had feelings for you - if you are susceptible it might well happen again.  I am always friendly with the girls I meet & can chat away with small talk which when they open up can blur the lines...but I know it is a charade & they don't want to meet you outside of the "room". Im an older guy so am realistic that I get to see them because I'm paying. Some younger guys fancifully think they can create an attachment leading to more but this game is fraught with "false emotion" & you have to understand it...a meeting is simply a brief interlude from reality.

In real life even if you somehow became close to a WG you have to realise fantasy is different to reality...you have arguments, you have disappointments...it is not simply sex all the time - I haven't even mentioned the way she earns her cash which inevitably will lead to problems over time.

Never get close to a WG because it will eventually go tits up whatever you might hope...sorry to disappoint you

[Brazilian Martian]

I said I'm done. Are you mad bro?

First off were not bro's we both come from completely different stocks. It's just this subject has been covered to death and white knights, fluffies we all know how it ends up 

[JohnnyPark]

Sounds like you are in the wrong game because you "want to believe" this girl had feelings for you - if you are susceptible it might well happen again.  I am always friendly with the girls I meet & can chat away with small talk which when they open up can blur the lines...but I know it is a charade & they don't want to meet you outside of the "room". Im an older guy so am realistic that I get to see them because I'm paying. Some younger guys fancifully think they can create an attachment leading to more but this game is fraught with "false emotion" & you have to understand it...a meeting is simply a brief interlude from reality.

In real life even if you somehow became close to a WG you have to realise fantasy is different to reality...you have arguments, you have disappointments...it is not simply sex all the time - I haven't even mentioned the way she earns her cash which inevitably will lead to problems over time.

Never get close to a WG because it will eventually go tits up whatever you might hope...sorry to disappoint you

No apologies needed Shearer. That's the best reply I have read. It's something that will NEVER happen again. It does not put me off wanting to do this. It's a hard lesson that has been learnt

[OakTree]

Seriously what are you trying to achieve by posting all of this on a forum ? You come across as a real buffoon with your ramblings

Couldn't have put it better myself.

This fool seems to think he's on dating site and we should all be sympathetic to his plight.

Jonnypark, She did exactly what it said on the tin.....GFE. You made a complete tit of yourself by misreading the situation and have only compounded that by your unrelenting hole digging.

I really don't think punting is for you. No punter with any nounce about him would pursue a WG for a date and the fact that you did, leads me to believe you're not in this just for the "fuck and go". Like a few others on this thread, I strongly suspect you too seek some form of relationship and use the convenience of payed sex for an easy introduction.

[Brazilian Martian]

Couldn't have put it better myself.

This fool seems to think he's on dating site and we should all be sympathetic to his plight.

Jonnypark, She did exactly what it said on the tin.....GFE. You made a complete tit of yourself by misreading the situation and have only compounded that by your unrelenting hole digging.

I really don't think punting is for you. No punter with any nounce about him would pursue a WG for a date and the fact that you did, leads me to believe you're not in this just for the "fuck and go". Like a few others on this thread, I strongly suspect you too seek some form of relationship and use the convenience of payed sex for an easy introduction.

The guy is either a fantasist or a complete idiot but I'm fed up with his hit air. The bit that made me laugh the most was him saying he does not want a relationship with her but wants to see her off the clock. She's fucking running a business who does he think he is don juan 

[JohnnyPark]

Wow i am deeply wounded. I do not care what a bunch of mysoginistic, old, beta males think of me. What's the date today?

See ya around but I wouldn't count on it. I'm done with you. That was fun 

[cueball]

Wow i am deeply wounded. I do not care what a bunch of mysoginistic, old, beta males think of me. What's the date today?

See ya around but I wouldn't count on it. I'm done with you. That was fun 

What a soppy wanker

You're not an April fool... you're a fool every day

[Brazilian Martian]

Wow i am deeply wounded. I do not care what a bunch of mysoginistic, old, beta males think of me. What's the date today?

See ya around but I wouldn't count on it. I'm done with you. That was fun 

I would say it's been fun but it hasn't

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[Jeff_withpetersen]

So by the end of it he was claiming it was all an April Fool's gag and that somehow he's not one of us sad 'beta males'? That must come as news to those who saw his rambling on for days/weeks and the WG he referred to as having been alerted by numerous people to his lunacy on this forum? Bahahahahahaha.

[Brazilian Martian]

So by the end of it he was claiming it was all an April Fool's gag and that somehow he's not one of us sad 'beta males'? That must come as news to those who saw his rambling on for days/weeks and the WG he referred to as having been alerted by numerous people to his lunacy on this forum? Bahahahahahaha.

I tell you what if you read through the recent part of this thread, you will see he had another person that supported and bought into his nonsense 

[bigmanbigman]

Agreed another A*""" Fool

[nervous1]

Got to admit that I've a touch of the EAS with one SP.  Always knew this was a risk as I'm a bit vulnerable emotionally.  Last time I saw her she said it was a shame she doesn't see me more then asked when I was coming back only to apologise instantly.  Never returned after that but as time has went on I think I may have been reading too much into it.  Now I'm of the opinion that we just had good chemistry and she valued that.  Probably best I don't go back but the idea of the lines being blurred a little appeals to me as long as I never forget she wouldn't look at me twice in normal circumstances.

[OakTree]

Got to admit that I've a touch of the EAS with one SP.  Always knew this was a risk as I'm a bit vulnerable emotionally.  Last time I saw her she said it was a shame she doesn't see me more then asked when I was coming back only to apologise instantly.  Never returned after that but as time has went on I think I may have been reading too much into it.  Now I'm of the opinion that we just had good chemistry and she valued that.  Probably best I don't go back but the idea of the lines being blurred a little appeals to me as long as I never forget she wouldn't look at me twice in normal circumstances.

I suggest you remove all thoughts of that. You've already recognised that you are emotionally vulnerable and this really would be dancing round the edge of the abyss.

As for the value of you chemistry? Do not entertain such thoughts, the value is purely in your cash. I would suggest you move on to pastures new and realise firmly that this is about fantasy and nothing more.

The mere fact you have to pay these women (As we all do on here) to fuck them should sober any thoughts that she would look at you twice in the real world.

[Shearer1955]

Got to admit that I've a touch of the EAS with one SP.  Always knew this was a risk as I'm a bit vulnerable emotionally.  Last time I saw her she said it was a shame she doesn't see me more then asked when I was coming back only to apologise instantly.  Never returned after that but as time has went on I think I may have been reading too much into it.  Now I'm of the opinion that we just had good chemistry and she valued that.  Probably best I don't go back but the idea of the lines being blurred a little appeals to me as long as I never forget she wouldn't look at me twice in normal circumstances.

Just remember "cash is king" - the prossie mind that that way first & foremost

[cueball]

With the current trend of prices creeping up, I'm getting emotionally attached...... to my money.

[NigelF]

With the current trend of prices creeping up, I'm getting emotionally attached...... to my money.

 

As for the value of you chemistry? Do not entertain such thoughts, the value is purely in your cash.

Everything OakTree said is spot on.

Just to add to it: your value is the fact that you are a source of easy cash. You're reliable, easy to please and don't make the booking a "hassle" for her. That's a far cry away from real "chemistry". Those things don't even make you special but they do mean she would rather have more bookings from you than lots of newcomers or a sometimes flaky regular.

[rebelscum]

As others have said, and it's great advice, if you find yourself getting attached, enquire about seeing your SP for free, etc, her answer might knock the EAS out of you...

[Jeff_withpetersen]

As others have said, and it's great advice, if you find yourself getting attached, enquire about seeing your SP for free, etc, her answer might knock the EAS out of you...

That should pretty much be rule #1 of punting, yet so many guys ignore it, because they'd rather lie to themselves wondering 'what if' than actually ask and be told that ... no, it's all an act that they genuinely like you haha. To be fair to WGs though, I do think that the fact that the first time they meet us it is as paying punters, who they then have to vet to check aren't psychos when we walk in the door - that must ruin any chance of ever striking up a genuine friendship in 99% of cases (arguably on both sides).

There have been threads on SAAFE in which some WGs extol the virtues of milking clients for every penny by pretending to like them - and again in fairness, most SAAFE members wade in against this but you'd be surprised how many seem to think it's ok, and in some cases women seem to think it's pretty much half the job of punting to suck people in to coughing up loads of cash without even needing to shag them any more, before spitting them out broken.

There's a few threads on here as well that invariably proceed along the lines of a) Do I have EAS? b) No, you're wrong, she really does like me and then c) When she'd bled me dry, she fucked off. Including that bloke earlier on this thread who was totally humiliated then pretended he was trolling all along bahahahaha.

[Brazilian Martian]

With the current trend of prices creeping up, I'm getting emotionally attached...... to my money.

 

[Brazilian Martian]

That should pretty much be rule #1 of punting, yet so many guys ignore it, because they'd rather lie to themselves wondering 'what if' than actually ask and be told that ... no, it's all an act that they genuinely like you haha. To be fair to WGs though, I do think that the fact that the first time they meet us it is as paying punters, who they then have to vet to check aren't psychos when we walk in the door - that must ruin any chance of ever striking up a genuine friendship in 99% of cases (arguably on both sides).

There have been threads on SAAFE in which some WGs extol the virtues of milking clients for every penny by pretending to like them - and again in fairness, most SAAFE members wade in against this but you'd be surprised how many seem to think it's ok, and in some cases women seem to think it's pretty much half the job of punting to suck people in to coughing up loads of cash without even needing to shag them any more, before spitting them out broken.

There's a few threads on here as well that invariably proceed along the lines of a) Do I have EAS? b) No, you're wrong, she really does like me and then c) When she'd bled me dry, she fucked off. Including that bloke earlier on this thread who was totally humiliated then pretended he was trolling all along bahahahaha.

Now when I read posts from guys that claim to have eas or their stories of how things are spiralling out of control I have zero sympathy for them. It's their own stupidity that got them into that situation, almost like when I hear story's of old women marrying a young men from Zambia and once they man has got his stay in uk he leaves the old cow.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

Personally i do have sympathy for EAS sufferers until they come on here, get told they're being idiots and still go off and get merrily bent over by abusive WGs. And yes I would say abusive because WGs must know whats going on but the lure of the cash clearly takes precedence.

If only all men were as shallow and cock-led as we are made out to be then things would actually be much simpler haha.

[bigmanbigman]

Quote from poster above rings true for other women too

( and in some cases women seem to think it's pretty much half the job of punting to suck people in to coughing up loads of cash without even needing to shag them any more, before spitting them out broken. )
What some on here forget is owning up to reality is sometimes more painfull
Than kidding yourself !!

[Marmalade]

You could go speed dating -- not to get anything, but at least put you in touch with real people and really how ugly hoors are!

[nervous1]

I suggest you remove all thoughts of that. You've already recognised that you are emotionally vulnerable and this really would be dancing round the edge of the abyss.

As for the value of you chemistry? Do not entertain such thoughts, the value is purely in your cash. I would suggest you move on to pastures new and realise firmly that this is about fantasy and nothing more.

The mere fact you have to pay these women (As we all do on here) to fuck them should sober any thoughts that she would look at you twice in the real world.

You're right, of course, as is everyone else who commented.  In my defence, when I refer to chemistry I was more thinking about it in a punting context.  I wasn't meaning asking her out on a date or anything cringey like that.  I've never had a regular and in my current self-imposed (temporary) exile from punting I've been thinking it would be a worthwhile thing to have one instead of wasting money on WG's who just have no idea how to please me despite that they aren't doing anything wrong.  I'm finding it hard to explain here.  As I said, I've got it in a mild form and I need to be careful, but I still haven't seen more than half my hotlist so there's hope for me yet.

All advice appreciated.

[Shearer1955]

Certainly nothing wrong with having a regular girl who readily provides all  services you enjoy in a friendly and conscientious manner and most importantly you are happy and are not misplacing her affection in the meet for something more personal and intense - you are paying for a fantasy and she is providing it. I think the problem with seeing a girl often is you can for whatever reason sometimes develop a deeper affection but that is because she is good at roleplay...it is not real

My thoughts are too move on to other girls regularly....this business doesn't allow for deep emotions & they are nearly never reciprocated even when there is the impression given of real friendship and a bond

[Fishface]

Any WG worth her salt should have the decency to recognise when someone is going off the deep end with regards to EAS and knock it on the head with a gentle let-down.

I suspect a lot of these issues are caused by a combination of deluded, lonely, possibly mentally ill men + greedy WGs who either fully intend to exploit them for all they are worth, or just 'play them for a bit for a few extra quid, after all what's the harm' and then let them down gently, by which point it's too late.

I honestly don't know what universe some of the posters on this thread are beaming in from.

This post makes sense. I can see how EAS happens but its just a waste of good emotions, she's a hooker, its a job and its all about the money.

[Brazilian Martian]

This post makes sense. I can see how EAS happens but its just a waste of good emotions, she's a hooker, its a job and its all about the money.

Some guys fail to realise this, they sometimes think that she wants saving and they can rescue her from the horrible world of prostitution 

[Mr_Shins]

SAAFE members seem to have EAS of their own.

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[Trenlover]

Some guys fail to realise this, they sometimes think that she wants saving and they can rescue her from the horrible world of prostitution 

id be surprised if that was true, EAS is really evolutionary mind control, its been biologically designed to override logical and rational thoughts to make the guy commit to the girl to stick around and raise the offspring.

you really start to lose control of yourself when EAS manifests. Its an interesting subject because it really calls into question just how much are we in control of ourselves compared to how much we *think* we are.

[Brazilian Martian]

id be surprised if that was true, EAS is really evolutionary mind control, its been biologically designed to override logical and rational thoughts to make the guy commit to the girl to stick around and raise the offspring.

you really start to lose control of yourself when EAS manifests. Its an interesting subject because it really calls into question just how much are we in control of ourselves compared to how much we *think* we are.

It's not always the prossies fault some of these guys act so smitten it actually puts some of the girls off. Most cases I've read about were guys not knowing the difference between punting and a real life relationship 

[Shearer1955]

It's not always the prossies fault some of these guys act so smitten it actually puts some of the girls off. Most cases I've read about were guys not knowing the difference between punting and a real life relationship 

correct - reality is blurred in your mind - not the escorts and you have a perception of something more meaningful...it is sad in many ways but there will be only one loser if you fail to see through the veil of illusion...and that is often much harder to eventually take than acknowledging the reality from the outset...both emotionally & no doubt financially!

[Brazilian Martian]

correct - reality is blurred in your mind - not the escorts and you have a perception of something more meaningful...it is sad in many ways but there will be only one loser if you fail to see through the veil of illusion...and that is often much harder to eventually take than acknowledging the reality from the outset...both emotionally & no doubt financially!

Exactly when I hear stories of this I never blame the pro$$ie I always thinks the punter is the idiot for this, as he has the option to walk away.

[Mr_Shins]

Given from those topics at SAAFE, some WGs do get into relationships with clients, there must be a few clients who think it could be them.

And if a particular WG has got into one (which then ended) and you know about it, you may well think you are in with a chance.

[puntingpumping1920]

Given from those topics at SAAFE, some WGs do get into relationships with clients, there must be a few clients who think it could be them.

And if a particular WG has got into one (which then ended) and you know about it, you may well think you are in with a chance.

 
Of course it happens to prostitutes and clients on both sides. Sex is a physical activity that creates emotional bonds.
 
In my opinion EAS can happen to any one, you just have to emotionally protect yourself the best way you can. 
 
The best way I handle EAS is to never see a girl more than twice. Make sure appointments are short and for sex only, no social meets. Never have regulars. And have a sex life outside of prostitutes.
 

[Brazilian Martian]

 
Of course it happens to prostitutes and clients on both sides. Sex is a physical activity that creates emotional bonds.
 
In my opinion EAS can happen to any one, you just have to emotionally protect yourself the best way you can. 
 
The best way I handle EAS is to never see a girl more than twice. Make sure appointments are short and for sex only, no social meets. Never have regulars. And have a sex life outside of prostitutes.

Many punters on here have regulars and they dnt develop EAS, I agree it tends to be punters that don't have much going on in their social life. Or those that probably dnt have much of a sex life outside of visiting prossies.

Either way imo it's fucking saddos that develop feelings for a prossie and I have no sympathy when things go tits up.

[puntingpumping1920]

Many punters on here have regulars and they dnt develop EAS, I agree it tends to be punters that don't have much going on in their social life. Or those that probably dnt have much of a sex life outside of visiting prossies.

Either way imo it's fucking saddos that develop feelings for a prossie and I have no sympathy when things go tits up.

 
I was sharing how I handle EAS, if I had a regular that I was seeing every month it would be easier for me to get attached. I understand everyone is not the same. 
 
I've been emotionally attached to the wrong girl, so I have more empathy towards punters that suffer from EAS.

[FWK1]

In my very humble opinion I think EAS could be translated into trying to get a freebie..!!

Because from personal experience yeh I might genuinely like the SP and get on her with famously (god that makes me sound like I'm Edwardian)  but in the back of my mind I'm either trying to get a discount or a freebie..