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Offline Arley Hall

I was feeling very bored today, so I decided to give free rein to my inner geek by analysing this last week's UKP reviews (roughly 250). These are my findings .....

Percentage of positive reviews by nationality

British ........... 76%
Hungarian ..... 57%
Polish ............ 65%
Romanian ...... 38%
Spanish ......... 55%

The above list is relatively short because I omitted nationalities with fewer than 10 reviews in total. I didn't think these would be statistically valid.

Percentage of positive reviews by price band (per 1 hour incall)

up to £99 ..... 61%
£100-124 ..... 63%
£125-149 ..... 79%
£150-174 ..... 82%
£175 + ........ 70%

Percentage of positive reviews by age range

18-20 ..... 61%
21-25 ..... 68%
26-30 ..... 68%
30 + ....... 77%

Comments  I may repeat the exercise and analyse a larger sample if I get the the time. This would enable me to include more nationalities. It would also give me more data on the 30+ age group, allowing it to be split into smaller age ranges. The figures seem to support the notion that price has little bearing on service, though there does appear to be a small advantage in going for the £125 - £174 price band. The 30 + age group also come out well but, again, there's not a lot in it as far as age is concerned. Nationality makes by far the biggest difference, with Brits coming out best and Romanians worst. Even so, more than a third of Roms were deemed to be delivering a good service. Overall the reviews were 71% positive.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 11:40:36 PM by Arley Hall »
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Interesting data but I'm not sure it's scientifically valid. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at you or your figures, just that there is a long boring list of things that you need to ensure that a dataset is valid and representative. I'm guessing that you already know that since anyone who's idea of a good time is statistical analysis of punting reviews is probably in a data related profession.  :D

I would be interested in why anyone thinks that the 30+ age group is so highly regarded. I suppose that girls that have been in the biz for a decade or more have to be comfortable with themselves and their profession and have also learned many of the lessons about comms and services that young girls haven't got yet or just don't care about but that are really appreciated by punters

Offline Candyman

Supports the poor reputation Romanians have of being cold, uninterested and unenthusiastic. I'm sure that would be the case with a larger data set too. Shame because some of them are great looking and there are more than any other nationality

Offline fairfield

Thanks for the analysis - must have been quite some hard work.

But don't you think the £175+ positives might be somewhat self-selecting? Are you less likely to report a neg - if you have spent that kind of money?

And i can only go on my own 'anecdotal' evidence, but 100% of my knockbacks have come from English WG's. You state your requirements and get instantly blocked. Only one had the decency to explain "don't do THAT with old men."  So am convinced English WG's ARE more choosy. Tho maybe the guys that do get to see them, benefit as a result.
( ofc just bcs the EE/Asian WG's agree to the services prior to the punt, it doesn't mean they actually deliver. Usually the opposite.)   

Offline Swansea lad

My guess is younger girls get more offers of work which makes them less reliable.

Girls 30+ probably have more financial commitments and probably less offers of work so less likely to disappoint.

The main problem with this type of analysis, is the inconsistency of reviewers.

Offline Flunt

The main problem with this type of analysis, is the inconsistency of reviewers.

The bigger problem is sample sizes and the fact that one negative can swing the stats wildly.

My guess is that the older pro$$ies offer a particular service which is discussed and agreed pre punt, maybe more expensive and maybe English?

The other thought is that the under 30s are cheaper EEs and one in three wasn't worth the trip?

All of which means that some lucky punter banged a hot EE and enjoyed a great punt for less than £100, while another paid through the nose for a bitter old pro$$ie and had a shit punt  :unknown:

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My guess is younger girls get more offers of work which makes them less reliable.

Girls 30+ probably have more financial commitments and probably less offers of work so less likely to disappoint.


YMMV, with any W/G

Offline oring123

i may be wrong but when i went to school % always add up to a total of 100 %
so Percentage of positive reviews by nationality

British ........... 76% guess25%
Hungarian ..... 57%          19%
Polish ............ 65%         21%
Romanian ...... 38%         13%
Spanish ......... 55%         22%
total               291 %      100%
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i may be wrong but when i went to school % always add up to a total of 100 %
so Percentage of positive reviews by nationality

British ........... 76% guess25%
Hungarian ..... 57%          19%
Polish ............ 65%         21%
Romanian ...... 38%         13%
Spanish ......... 55%         22%
total               291 %      100%

The figures quoted are the percentage of positive reviews per nationality so don't have to add up to 100%. For the British there is another 24% of neutrals and negatives to make up the total and the same for the others.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 08:48:01 AM by Mysterion »

Offline Arley Hall

Interesting data but I'm not sure it's scientifically valid. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at you or your figures, just that there is a long boring list of things that you need to ensure that a dataset is valid and representative. I'm guessing that you already know that since anyone who's idea of a good time is statistical analysis of punting reviews is probably in a data related profession.  :D

I would be interested in why anyone thinks that the 30+ age group is so highly regarded. I suppose that girls that have been in the biz for a decade or more have to be comfortable with themselves and their profession and have also learned many of the lessons about comms and services that young girls haven't got yet or just don't care about but that are really appreciated by punters

Yes - you're right about the validity of the dataset etc. I did try to make it as valid as possible, by excluding FBSMs for example. In hindsight I think it would also have been better to only include reviews of girls with an AW profile. That would have restricted the dataset, but made it more consistent. I'm not a statistician, but am in a numerate profession - let's put it that way!

Agree about the 30+ age group too - though I don't usually punt in that age range myself.
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Offline Arley Hall

There are loads of interesting points here that I'd like to reply to. I will do so when I get a bit more time.
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Offline mgtow15

"don't do THAT with old men."

What are you trying to do with them  :D?
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 09:10:27 AM by mgtow15 »
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Offline oring123

What are you trying to do with them?
hard to know how old you are from e/mail/text
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Offline Roth

Thanks for the analysis - must have been quite some hard work.

But don't you think the £175+ positives might be somewhat self-selecting? Are you less likely to report a neg - if you have spent that kind of money?

And i can only go on my own 'anecdotal' evidence, but 100% of my knockbacks have come from English WG's. You state your requirements and get instantly blocked. Only one had the decency to explain "don't do THAT with old men."  So am convinced English WG's ARE more choosy. Tho maybe the guys that do get to see them, benefit as a result.
( ofc just bcs the EE/Asian WG's agree to the services prior to the punt, it doesn't mean they actually deliver. Usually the opposite.)

You should name and shame them.  :angry: :angry:

Offline Fagin Again

A most interesting and erudite statistical analysis!

As to why younger escorts get a lower satisfaction score, I would suggest that one reason is that most women become more sexually adventurous and uninhibited as they get older, and therefore also more at ease about having sex with strangers – and indeed about doing the diverse things that appeal to some of us!  (The Enjoys Lists of slightly older escorts tend to be longer and more enterprising...)

Another reason may be that the older girls are a bit nearer the age of most punters than the young ones are, so the age gap is less uncomfortable for them; and therefore they feel more relaxed.
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As to why younger escorts get a lower satisfaction score, I would suggest that one reason is that most women become more sexually adventurous and uninhibited as they get older, and therefore also more at ease about having sex with strangers – and indeed about doing the diverse things that appeal to some of us!  (The Enjoys Lists of slightly older escorts tend to be longer and more enterprising...)

Another reason may be that the older girls are a bit nearer the age of most punters than the young ones are, so the age gap is less uncomfortable for them; and therefore they feel more relaxed.
Is it also down to expectations before the punt so if i'm going to see a stunning 21 year old with a fit tight body my expectation is to be blown away but if her attitude or service if off then she may not rate as a positive.
On the other hand if a guy is going to see an older girl who doesn't look as good and carries a few extra pounds then his expectation may not be so high however she is great to get on with and delivers the advertised services exceptionally well, this girl is more likely to get a positive rating.
In my experience it's not just about the sex but the whole package, i want to feel like the girl actually wants me there for the duration of the punt even though she may not / doesn't. 

Offline cueball


In my experience it's not just about the sex but the whole package, i want to feel like the girl actually wants me there for the duration of the punt even though she may not / doesn't.

Excellent summary  :thumbsup:

A most interesting and erudite statistical analysis!

As to why younger escorts get a lower satisfaction score, I would suggest that one reason is that most women become more sexually adventurous and uninhibited as they get older, and therefore also more at ease about having sex with strangers – and indeed about doing the diverse things that appeal to some of us!  (The Enjoys Lists of slightly older escorts tend to be longer and more enterprising...)

Another reason may be that the older girls are a bit nearer the age of most punters than the young ones are, so the age gap is less uncomfortable for them; and therefore they feel more relaxed.


Agree with that. I cannot hand on heart say I have had a bad punt with a WG in her 30s and above.

Top 10 punts have been for the most part with ladies in the 35 to 50 age group

Offline mgtow15

Top 10 punts have been for the most part with ladies in the 35 to 50 age group

Are you an OAP if you don't mind me asking?
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Offline punther

Great posts   :hi:

You're findings reflect what ive experienced punting

Nationality: Romanians are generally the worst service providers and british generally the best

Age: The best punts are with older women. They are more experienced and comfortable with themselves. Also their maturity has taught them its important to give a good service

Price: Beyond a certain point there is no added benefit in seeing a more expensive girl and punts at the extreme bottom of the market are generally shit

Offline fairfield

hard to know how old you are from e/mail/text
Don't wanna distract from this topic - its too interesting.  But i always now tell the WG's in initial negotiations that i am an OAP wanting DFK etc. Got fed turning up and being knocked back in person.

In the young  vs old debate - have to admit my (limited) experience is completely the opposite. Pimped 18/19 yr olds are the best at delivering the agreed services. Guess they are sort of pseudo 'subs.'
After a punt with 50+ WG ( Kirsten review if anyone's interested.) would never repeat. Boasting 30 years experience under her belt. she managed to avoid even taking me upstairs!

Offline pking_paul


Agree with that. I cannot hand on heart say I have had a bad punt with a WG in her 30s and above.

Top 10 punts have been for the most part with ladies in the 35 to 50 age group

Me too.

It is all so subjective but to be fair to the OP he accepts that. I've been avoiding younger girls for the kinds of reasons discussed and trying to find older woman who are still fit, and ideally can converse too. Not an easy task from experience as they all carry those extra pounds or if they are still slim, aren't available when I want them to be.  :unknown:

Offline Candyman

i may be wrong but when i went to school % always add up to a total of 100 %
so Percentage of positive reviews by nationality

British ........... 76% guess25%
Hungarian ..... 57%          19%
Polish ............ 65%         21%
Romanian ...... 38%         13%
Spanish ......... 55%         22%
total               291 %      100%

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