Rant!

[ness4]

I get the feeling this rant may be echoed by lots of married guys but here goes.

So it's Christmas; I get to cook Xmas dinner, see the in laws, spend more money on buying presents for member of the larger family than is justifiable, act as taxi driver, smile through everything and generally be as nice as I can and my question is this: why do I have to make all this effort and yet it's far too much fucking effort for my OH to suck my cock once in a while? You married me so why don't you fuck me occasionally??

So it's alright to get a cleaner, a gardener and a decorator to do all the other jobs you don't like doing so I think it's double standards that getting a prossie is so against the rules. In the same way that I can come home and find the cleaner hoovering I think it should be acceptable for her to come home and find me balls deep in some young tart. Might learn a thing or too

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[Ben4454]

This is why I choose never to get married!

[Sonny Crockett]

This is why I choose never to get married!

+10000

[RedKettle]

I get the feeling this rant may be echoed by lots of married guys but here goes.

So it's Christmas; I get to cook Xmas dinner, see the in laws, spend more money on buying presents for member of the larger family than is justifiable, act as taxi driver, smile through everything and generally be as nice as I can and my question is this: why do I have to make all this effort and yet it's far too much fucking effort for my OH to suck my cock once in a while? You married me so why don't you fuck me occasionally??

So it's alright to get a cleaner, a gardener and a decorator to do all the other jobs you don't like doing so I think it's double standards that getting a prossie is so against the rules. In the same way that I can come home and find the cleaner hoovering I think it should be acceptable for her to come home and find me balls deep in some young tart. Might learn a thing or too

so agree with every word of this.

[Biscuitman]

Exactly why I will never get married.

[NelsonH]

There is an upside to marriage.

My wife does all the shopping, washing, cleaning and most of the gardening and cooks proper meals every day.
She has a couple of well paid jobs and cheerfully settles half the bills.

OK she is a complete prude who puts her pyjamas on first, then removes her bra, so no-one ever sees anything.
Oh and she is gym fit and can still get into her Wedding dress. And still a perky 32 DD, not that it matters.

She more or less takes no interest in anything I do and is in fact revolted by any kind of intimacy, sexual or just affectionate.

[DogFace36]

  Seems strange to me that you'd do all these things for her and get nothing in return.  You have to make her realise it's not a one-way street. How you do that is up to you - after all, you married her - but here's a couple of websites you could look at for advice:

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[Biscuitman]

I still live with my parents & I'm 37 yrs old. My 3 older brothers are all married with kids & already miserable. I get the benefits of home cooking & my mums ironing & also have the freedom to go out & shag who ever I like without the ear ache, only downside is having to pay for it and not being able to book a visit at my home. 😏

[bokkaboy]

Putting on some black stockings and talking it up the arse once a year wouldn't do anyone any harm either.
Thank God for prossies 

[SUMO61]

I get the feeling this rant may be echoed by lots of married guys but here goes.

So it's Christmas; I get to cook Xmas dinner, see the in laws, spend more money on buying presents for member of the larger family than is justifiable, act as taxi driver, smile through everything and generally be as nice as I can and my question is this: why do I have to make all this effort and yet it's far too much fucking effort for my OH to suck my cock once in a while? You married me so why don't you fuck me occasionally??

So it's alright to get a cleaner, a gardener and a decorator to do all the other jobs you don't like doing so I think it's double standards that getting a prossie is so against the rules. In the same way that I can come home and find the cleaner hoovering I think it should be acceptable for her to come home and find me balls deep in some young tart. Might learn a thing or too

Let me guess, but i'll wager that when you were dating, she fucked like a bunny. All lacy gear, stockings, rampant for it, suggesting sex and how horny she was ...

On goes the Ring and off goes the sex tap..

Sex with women is a wide spectrum, ranging from WGs, who are smart enough to charge for sex, to women who understand why you have to keep hubby happy, to frigid wives, who've used sex to get what THEY want from a man....

Don't ever assume she doesn't know you use WGs. She knows what you need, she has just decided she isn't providing any more.  Accept that's how it is, her choice and do what you need to do. Shut Up, Move On ( SUMO) or you'll remain a victim to it.

Funnily enough, i've not paid attention to wifey now for two years, after she played the same frigid game on me for years.  Guess what, she wanted a shag last night.  It's all a battle of wills and i've just got her to blink first. Wasn't a great shag, mind, but it's a start and saved me a bit of money.

[FriendlyPineapple]

Then why don't you just get a divorce?

[SUMO61]

Then why don't you just get a divorce?

No mortgage,  £80k in the bank, big house, nice motor, Prem League season ticket, golf holidays abroad, semi retired, earn £300 a day when I fancy it...

Yes, i'll swap all that for a flat above a shop, good thinking 

[ness4]

What he said! Besides there are lots of good things about being married that I really enjoy. I just want to get my end away occasionally.
A couple of hundred quid a month (or so) to fuck sexy prossies is a lot cheaper than a divorce I guess! :-)

[tonysoprano]

No mortgage,  £80k in the bank, big house, nice motor, Prem League season ticket, golf holidays abroad, semi retired, earn £300 a day when I fancy it...

Yes, i'll swap all that for a flat above a shop, good thinking 

That's actually what would happen? I'm not an expert but if divorce is that harsh on men, i'm staggered any man with a brain would get married.

They should make pre-nuptial agreements compulsory.

[tonysoprano]

I still live with my parents & I'm 37 yrs old. My 3 older brothers are all married with kids & already miserable. I get the benefits of home cooking & my mums ironing & also have the freedom to go out & shag who ever I like without the ear ache, only downside is having to pay for it and not being able to book a visit at my home. 😏

What the fuck, 37 and you live with your parents??? Rent a fucking room or something mate. You can afford hookers but you can't afford to get your own place?

You need to sort that out.

[vw]

Actions have consequences you chose family, quit your whining and trying to ruin our singletons Christmas.   

[Nagilum]

I was married for 10 bloody years!

While the sex was never an issue, I did grow tired of being infected with Onegina, highly contagious but I cured myself! I used to tell my ex missus, that if she ever did that then expect me to finding something additional to her.  Perhaps you ought to tell your other half that!

Now I would never ever get married again!

Like many punters I have my own place, work a decent job which pays well and I can afford the luxury of my hobby.  Best part is I don't have to hide anything 

[cueball]

What the fuck, 37 and you live with your parents??? Rent a fucking room or something mate. You can afford hookers but you can't afford to get your own place?

You need to sort that out.

That's a good point, I had me own gaff from my early twenties, no way could I live at parents house at 37.

Great having your own gaff even as a single lad

[LL]

I get the feeling this rant may be echoed by lots of married guys but here goes.

So it's Christmas; I get to cook Xmas dinner, see the in laws, spend more money on buying presents for member of the larger family than is justifiable, act as taxi driver, smile through everything and generally be as nice as I can and my question is this: why do I have to make all this effort and yet it's far too much fucking effort for my OH to suck my cock once in a while? You married me so why don't you fuck me occasionally??

So it's alright to get a cleaner, a gardener and a decorator to do all the other jobs you don't like doing so I think it's double standards that getting a prossie is so against the rules. In the same way that I can come home and find the cleaner hoovering I think it should be acceptable for her to come home and find me balls deep in some young tart. Might learn a thing or too

I hear you, OP. I'm in exactly the same position as you. Once upon a time I would accrue brownie points for good deeds that might have been exchangeable for sexual favours but now those good deeds are apparently taken for granted. I work very hard over Christmas, flat out. Same as you - entertaining inlaws, jumping through hoops, putting everybody else's interests before my own. I'm not asking for much. Do you know that I still give my wife RO regularly and yet she still refuses to suck my cock. Well she's got more excuses than a prossies you've turned up to see who's double-booked! "I don't feel like it"; "not today"; "I'm tired"; "I'll do it another time". What kind of fucking mug am I?!

Now I'm not so deluded that I think my cheating is entirely justified but it certainly takes the edge off my own guilt (of seeing prossies) when I remind myself that I regularly service the needs of my wife and she refuses to do the same for me.

[Nagilum]

I hear you, OP. I'm in exactly the same position as you. Once upon a time I would accrue brownie points for good deeds that might have been exchangeable for sexual favours but now those good deeds are apparently taken for granted. I work very hard over Christmas, flat out. Same as you - entertaining inlaws, jumping through hoops, putting everybody else's interests before my own. I'm not asking for much. Do you know that I still give my wife RO regularly and yet she still refuses to suck my cock. Well she's got more excuses than a prossies you've turned up to see who's double-booked! "I don't feel like it"; "not today"; "I'm tired"; "I'll do it another time". What kind of fucking mug am I?!

Now I'm not so deluded that I think my cheating is entirely justified but it certainly takes the edge off my own guilt (of seeing prossies) when I remind myself that I regularly service the needs of my wife and she refuses to do the same for me.

Honestly I think you are entirely justified LL.  A good sex life is part of a healthy marriage and unfortunately when partners are not fulfilling this need we men will punt.  I would do the exact same thing in your position.  If she was performing her duty as a wife towards you, as you do as her husband, then fair enough you would not be justified.

[Taggart]

I just dont bother trying any more. Saves a bruised ego.
Mrs  T's excuses are legendary. Regardless of what I do for her. They include:   IBS, pain in the hip, joggers nipple, tired, got to be up early for work, kids might her us and she is the only woman who has 14-day periods.   Before the aisle, it was BJs, CIM/COF, 5-6 times per night, perfume, any room in the house, the full lingerie display, etc.

Now it's chavvy grey pants and vest in bed or Bridget Jones knickers in summer, back towards me and if I am unlucky, an occasional fart.

Punting is more predictable. And enjoyable.

[DoberManic]

I always thought I was missing out on something by never getting married or having kids...

But the more I hear from you guys, the more I'm beginning to appreciate that I may have dodged a bullet! 

Probably best stick to my dogs for affection and pro$$ies for the sex! 

[LL]

Honestly I think you are entirely justified LL.  A good sex life is part of a healthy marriage and unfortunately when partners are not fulfilling this need we men will punt.  I would do the exact same thing in your position.  If she was performing her duty as a wife towards you, as you do as her husband, then fair enough you would not be justified.

Thanks mate. I made a promise to myself that I wouldn't punt over Christmas. I'm on holiday for 2 weeks. I thought that I might get some action at home for a change. Hold-back from punting and instead swallow my pride and resort to persuasion / seduction tactics at home. Any married man will know what I'm talking about. You bite your tongue all day. Put up with her shit but keep schtum and don't say anything to avoid killing the mood. Treat her like a princess even though you're the pauper rather than the prince. Appear selfless in order to get head. But it's not happening. I'm putting in the effort and not getting any results. Now I'm hornier than a 4-balled tomcat and desperate for a punt!

So if I had to resort to punting this Christmas break, I'll know that I tried very hard to avoid it. God bless prostitutes

[Ben4454]

Let me guess, but i'll wager that when you were dating, she fucked like a bunny. All lacy gear, stockings, rampant for it, suggesting sex and how horny she was ...

On goes the Ring and off goes the sex tap..

Sex with women is a wide spectrum, ranging from WGs, who are smart enough to charge for sex, to women who understand why you have to keep hubby happy, to frigid wives, who've used sex to get what THEY want from a man....

Don't ever assume she doesn't know you use WGs. She knows what you need, she has just decided she isn't providing any more.  Accept that's how it is, her choice and do what you need to do. Shut Up, Move On ( SUMO) or you'll remain a victim to it.

Funnily enough, i've not paid attention to wifey now for two years, after she played the same frigid game on me for years.  Guess what, she wanted a shag last night.  It's all a battle of wills and i've just got her to blink first. Wasn't a great shag, mind, but it's a start and saved me a bit of money.

When wifey turns off the sex you turn off the attention. For women attention is like sex. This is why they fuck till the ring gets on. Also say no to sex a few times to vary it up a bit. Anyone who does this the sex will come back.
 

[DoberManic]

When wifey turns off the sex you turn off the attention. For women attention is like sex. This is why they fuck till the ring gets on. Also say no to sex a few times to vary it up a bit. Anyone who does this the sex will come back.

One of my ex civvy girlfriends was like that;  if I ever turned down sex in the evening, she would practically jump my bones the next morning... ahhh happy memories.... still, glad I didn't marry the insane bitch though!!! 

[Clark Gilbert]

I seem to be picking up some misogyny in this thread. I am in the same position as some of you. Perhaps a bit more than many of you in terms of the balance of effort I put into keeping things going at home. I work crazy hours (incl. many/most weekends) to pay for cleaners/gardeners/whatever while she shows no interest in getting a job (kids left home) and spends the day socialising, watching TV and on Facebook. But I cannot actually force someone I love to have sex with me. Whenever I feel resentment because of this I remind myself of the Socratic principle that if I harm someone else I ultimately harm myself.
The issues between us seem unresolvable and divorce is too costly (more for her than me) so I take a very deep breath and resolve to have an extra punt to compensate. However expensive it is costs less than a divorce. No need for me to hate my partner or project any guilt/anger I feel on to her. Most of all for me it is not to have negative feelings towards women in general.
I am aiming to spend a lot of time and money in 2016 punting (much more than 2015) and will be a better person for it. It has become a major part of my life. But I will never allow myself to hate women, least of all my wife.

[LL]

I seem to be picking up some misogyny in this thread.

Which comment?
I certainly don't hate women. On the contrary, I love women. And herein lies the problem. I love all women. If I only had eyes for the main love of my life, I wouldn't be a punter. And if that lady serviced my needs regularly I wouldn't be a punter either. Proof? First few years of marriage when I got plenty of action - I didn't punt.

No I can't make someone who loves me have sex with me. I wouldn't want to. It shouldn't even come to this. I have needs, she has needs. I thought we loved each other.
I'm not convinced you're even male. I have another term for you to look up in the dictionary - not far from misogyny is misandry. Perhaps you've never heard of it. Indeed my phone auto/correct had never heard of it! . The fact it's not a mainstream term is not only worrying but representative of the bias that we have in society today.  That the women must be looked after as they are vulnerable and persecuted. Meanwhile men up and down the country are locked in sexless marriages. Yet by definition we're men. So we're the bad guys.

[Nagilum]

I seem to be picking up some misogyny in this thread. I am in the same position as some of you. Perhaps a bit more than many of you in terms of the balance of effort I put into keeping things going at home. I work crazy hours (incl. many/most weekends) to pay for cleaners/gardeners/whatever while she shows no interest in getting a job (kids left home) and spends the day socialising, watching TV and on Facebook. But I cannot actually force someone I love to have sex with me. Whenever I feel resentment because of this I remind myself of the Socratic principle that if I harm someone else I ultimately harm myself.
The issues between us seem unresolvable and divorce is too costly (more for her than me) so I take a very deep breath and resolve to have an extra punt to compensate. However expensive it is costs less than a divorce. No need for me to hate my partner or project any guilt/anger I feel on to her. Most of all for me it is not to have negative feelings towards women in general.
I am aiming to spend a lot of time and money in 2016 punting (much more than 2015) and will be a better person for it. It has become a major part of my life. But I will never allow myself to hate women, least of all my wife.

Firstly welcome to the board.

Nobody is hating their wife either or women, in fact it's our love of women that drives the hobby. Married punters stay with their wife out of love, bringing up kids and companionship etc. However the point being made is that a marriage must consist of a happy sex life. Why go through the routine, please the wife, put up with gatherings as LL is pointing out only to be shunned? A basic carnal need, needs to be satisfied and if they won't do it, then a WG will. This amongst many reasons is why it's the oldest profession in the world.

Being formally married for 10 years I totally get it and what you mean about divorce.

[Nagilum]

Which comment?
I certainly don't hate women. On the contrary, I love women. And herein lies the problem. I love all women. If I only had eyes for the main love of my life, I wouldn't be a punter. And if that lady serviced my needs regularly I wouldn't be a punter either. Proof? First few years of marriage when I got plenty of action - I didn't punt.

No I can't make someone who loves me have sex with me. I wouldn't want to. It shouldn't even come to this. I have needs, she has needs. I thought we loved each other.
I'm not convinced you're even male. I have another term for you to look up in the dictionary - not far from misogyny is misandry. Perhaps you've never heard of it. Indeed my phone auto/correct had never heard of it! . The fact it's not a mainstream term is not only worrying but representative of the bias that we have in society today.  That the women must be looked after as they are vulnerable and persecuted. Meanwhile men up and down the country are locked in sexless marriages. Yet by definition we're men. So we're the bad guys.

Beat me to it 

[vw]

I seem to be picking up some misogyny in this thread.

Possibly from yourself then I don't read any.

This word is often brought here by wankers or punter haters that don't have a clue what it means.  Most common user of this phrase in the was was a wanker called Quaesadilla who considers himself better than all other punters, perhaps better than all over living people.

Hope your not that type of person.

[Mr Farkyhars]

I seem to be picking up some misogyny in this thread

God bless prostitutes

[King Nuts]

I just dont bother trying any more. Saves a bruised ego.
Mrs  T's excuses are legendary. Regardless of what I do for her. They include:   IBS, pain in the hip, joggers nipple, tired, got to be up early for work, kids might her us and she is the only woman who has 14-day periods.   Before the aisle, it was BJs, CIM/COF, 5-6 times per night, perfume, any room in the house, the full lingerie display, etc.

Now it's chavvy grey pants and vest in bed or Bridget Jones knickers in summer, back towards me and if I am unlucky, an occasional fart.

Sorry, I know I shouldn't, but this made me laugh.

[Rod trotter]

Great thread and close to my heart.i had the balls to walk away cos she wasnt whst i needed sexually.

Nowerdays you guys have a choice, fuck off or put up with it, i think yous are in the ideal situation, you like the home comforts too much or youd leave so shes stopped having sex, great, let her play her game its giving you the green light to go shag a wg.deny her if by a miracle she wants it and you will see her reaction and it lets you punt even more.

Women go off sex, mine does often.currently she is rampant, ive fucked her 4 times since xmas eve and the only thing she doesnt do is cim, so its happy days but she does go off sex now and then but the good thing is she admits it.

All this said, i still like variety but i refrain when shes in this mood 

Its not all bad lads, frees you up to punt

[King Kenny]

She is in fact revolted by any kind of intimacy, sexual or just affectionate.

Are you me?

[King Kenny]

I just dont bother trying any more. Saves a bruised ego.
Mrs  T's excuses are legendary. Regardless of what I do for her. They include:   IBS, pain in the hip, joggers nipple, tired, got to be up early for work, kids might her us and she is the only woman who has 14-day periods.   Before the aisle, it was BJs, CIM/COF, 5-6 times per night, perfume, any room in the house, the full lingerie display, etc.

Now it's chavvy grey pants and vest in bed or Bridget Jones knickers in summer, back towards me and if I am unlucky, an occasional fart.

Punting is more predictable. And enjoyable.

Fuck. It's like looking in a mirror going on this site at times.

[cueball]

I were podging prossies long before meeting mrs cueball.

Our sex life has more or less dried up but I'm ok with that, I can punt to get that out if my system.

I'm still happy to be with the mrs, she's my best mate and wouldn't swap her for all the tea in China.

If you're like me then punting avoids chasing civvie skirt and embarking on a potentially disastrous affair.

[claretandblue]

Firstly welcome to the board.

Welcome to the board?I think you meant to say welcome back 

[charming_red]

Interesting points in this thread, apart from the twat mentioning misogyny.

Looking at it another way, do you guys still find your wives attractive or at least fuckable?

Similarly, do you guys think your wives find you physically attractive?

[Taggart]

You could argue that this denial of sex is a form of controlling behaviour.
Women are told not to accept or put up with controlling, abusive relationships, so is refusal of sex any different?

[Mr Farkyhars]

You could argue that this denial of sex is a form of controlling behaviour.
Women are told not to accept or put up with controlling, abusive relationships, so is refusal of sex any different?

+1

[zulu]

No mortgage,  £80k in the bank, big house, nice motor, Prem League season ticket, golf holidays abroad, semi retired, earn £300 a day when I fancy it...

Yes, i'll swap all that for a flat above a shop, good thinking 

and you risk this " fantastic" life-style by using brasses,

 lets hope shes as thick as you think she is,or it will be an entertaining divorce petition,

 in my nearly 60 years ive had dozens of affairs with married women, apart from the odd post-natal depression they dont go off sex, they like it as much as us, sometimes more,
 they look for it elsewhere like we do.
 I guarentee you ask your next prossie (who can speak English) about married guys whose wives have gone "frigid" clients,and they will tell you about the rotten teeth, bad breath,cheesy bell-ends and toilet paper sticking out of the dirty arse,or simply the personality of a house-brick, and then they complain the girl "was crap!"

[Bigus Dickus]

and you risk this " fantastic" life-style by using brasses,

 lets hope shes as thick as you think she is,or it will be an entertaining divorce petition,

 in my nearly 60 years ive had dozens of affairs with married women, apart from the odd post-natal depression they dont go off sex, they like it as much as us, sometimes more,
 they look for it elsewhere like we do.
 I guarentee you ask your next prossie (who can speak English) about married guys whose wives have gone "frigid" clients,and they will tell you about the rotten teeth, bad breath,cheesy bell-ends and toilet paper sticking out of the dirty arse,or simply the personality of a house-brick, and then they complain the girl "was crap!"

What's your point? If you can't add anything to the thread fuck off somewhere else and post your bollocks!

[yorkshire123]

and you risk this " fantastic" life-style by using brasses,

 lets hope shes as thick as you think she is,or it will be an entertaining divorce petition,

 in my nearly 60 years ive had dozens of affairs with married women, apart from the odd post-natal depression they dont go off sex, they like it as much as us, sometimes more,
 they look for it elsewhere like we do.
 I guarentee you ask your next prossie (who can speak English) about married guys whose wives have gone "frigid" clients,and they will tell you about the rotten teeth, bad breath,cheesy bell-ends and toilet paper sticking out of the dirty arse,or simply the personality of a house-brick, and then they complain the girl "was crap!"

You write like a trollop pretending to be one of the boys 

[cueball]

You write like a trollop pretending to be one of the boys 

Ya know, I thought it were just me that thought that.

[Rod trotter]

and you risk this " fantastic" life-style by using brasses,

 lets hope shes as thick as you think she is,or it will be an entertaining divorce petition,

 in my nearly 60 years ive had dozens of affairs with married women, apart from the odd post-natal depression they dont go off sex, they like it as much as us, sometimes more,
 they look for it elsewhere like we do.
 I guarentee you ask your next prossie (who can speak English) about married guys whose wives have gone "frigid" clients,and they will tell you about the rotten teeth, bad breath,cheesy bell-ends and toilet paper sticking out of the dirty arse,or simply the personality of a house-brick, and then they complain the girl "was crap!"

hi mrs...............

right wee chip on your shoulder love

[Mr Farkyhars]

I guarentee you ask your next prossie (who can speak English) about married guys whose wives have gone "frigid" clients,and they will tell you about the rotten teeth, bad breath,cheesy bell-ends and toilet paper sticking out of the dirty arse,or simply the personality of a house-brick, and then they complain the girl "was crap!"

If husbands get that way, it's likely because of the frigid wives who ridicule their every attempt to look after themselves by sneering "who's the floozy you're doing all that for?"

[Sparquin]

Getting back on topic, the thing that boils my piss the most is that Mrs. S will not acknowledge any responsibility on her part for my infidelity whatsoever.  If she had borne children, contributed to the family finances then I could understand a certain sense of betrayal. However neither of these apply. I find I am married to an entitled cold fish, to whom I am supposed to remain faithful. 

Not possible.

[firingblanks]

I feel your pain.
As of Jan 9th 2016
I'm moving in to my own apartment.
Sick of paying vast amounts of money out on everything imaginable for Her Indoors and getting fuck all back sexually.
I'm walking.

[smartieshouse]

Pay for sex and enjoy the liberation it brings with it.