Author Topic: The Definitive UK Punting Guide to Filming Punts?  (Read 39482 times)

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Pumps can I ask what your lighting set up is ? You say you shoot POV, presumably the light is offset is some way otherwise it would be shining into the models eyes. Assuming no or limited daylight, can you light effectively just using domestic lamps rather than photographic equipment?


loooooooooooooooooooooooool "models".

Yeah domestic / hotel lighting is usually adequate most of time, but if its lacking I will usually top it up with one of these.


1. If you film on your phone and want to keep things ultra basic get an external LED light that plugs into your microphone jack

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You can find them on ebay under "selfie light", they have 3 brightness settings and I've never had any escort complain it was blinding their eyes. (except one romanian, but that was more due to the fact she was a romanian and we know they'll do anything to screw up a punt)

If the domestic lights terrible / dim as fuck (or I'm filming from abit further back out of the selfie lights range), which is usually due to these "models" just being real women and they're shy / lack abit of self confidence or are latinas and think you won't see all the surgery scars for ass implants  :lol:


I have two of these which I offset as you said so its not directly in a girls eyes but lights up the area.

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Knog qudos Action light - which has several light modes

You definitely can't shine it directly into anyone's eyes, but even with just one of these it can make a pitch black room suitable for filming. (But I wouldn't attempt to film in a pitch black room (unless its FOC), if the prossies charging for filming she needs to play ball and supply a minimum standard of light).


They're not the best light(s) for filming this sort of thing if you want a professional look IMO - I only have them because I use my camera for other outdoor activities that needed good lighting and good depth of water resistance and found myself porting them over to this hobby.
 


Also I find it best to discuss with the "model" about the camera you intend to use, and show her the lights and switch them on so she's happy with everything thats gonna go down before paying....these "models" often don't like surprises sprung on them loool.

 
If anyone else has any input on their lighting setups I would love to hear?

I've also been looking into gimbals, any intel would be good.
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Ideally film during the day time

Request that the curtain is open in day time(if discretion will not be compromised)

Also request that all lights in the room are switched on

It also helps to have a camera with good low light performance if lighting in the room is poor along with supplementary LED lighting as mention in earlier posts

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If anyone else has any input on their lighting setups I would love to hear?

I've never used lighting always relying on daylight, which I'm sure is best if you can get enough of it, or whatever is available  in the model's ;) room. It isn't always good enough though so I really need to pull my finger out and invest in a discreet little portable set up. Good stuff pumps, you're an inspiration.


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I've never used lighting always relying on daylight, which I'm sure is best if you can get enough of it, or whatever is available  in the model's ;) room. It isn't always good enough though so I really need to pull my finger out and invest in a discreet little portable set up. Good stuff pumps, you're an inspiration.

Yep daylights always the best way - with the it getting dark early, by 4pm there is barely enough daylight for decent filming.

The last model I went to had 4 candles lit  :sarcastic: that was her idea of lighting! lol

I'm also an after dark punter, I don't actually know why... I assume it must be something to do with discretion, less traffic on the roads, no parking restrictions....  :sarcastic:

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Yep daylights always the best way - with the it getting dark early, by 4pm there is barely enough daylight for decent filming.

The last model I went to had 4 candles lit  :sarcastic: that was her idea of lighting! lol

I'm also an after dark punter, I don't actually know why... I assume it must be something to do with discretion, less traffic on the roads, no parking restrictions....  :sarcastic:
Yep it's a dilemma for me too. I like it dark for arrival discretion but it fucks the film quality! But 4 candles? I hope you didn't get saw tips with your O's ... got any pumps?  :lol:
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Yep it's a dilemma for me too. I like it dark for arrival discretion but it fucks the film quality! But 4 candles? I hope you didn't get saw tips with your O's ... got any pumps?  :lol:

I ended up walking for other reasons, but yes 4 candles!   

I don't understand the last part of your sentence, my brains being slow tonight lol




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No updates on the filming thread for ages but I just came across an issue that I hope a fellow filmer has an answer to. I have quite a lot of folders containing still images from different scenes from the videos I've made. Has anyone got a software solution whereby I can automate the process of taking one shot from each folder and placing a copy in a new folder. I want to make a long slideshow of  my stills to, ahem... enjoy leisurely   :blush:

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No updates on the filming thread for ages but I just came across an issue that I hope a fellow filmer has an answer to. I have quite a lot of folders containing still images from different scenes from the videos I've made. Has anyone got a software solution whereby I can automate the process of taking one shot from each folder and placing a copy in a new folder. I want to make a long slideshow of  my stills to, ahem... enjoy leisurely   :blush:

Windows movie maker. pre-installed on windows OS..

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I wonder if any of you can tell me what the options for real time monitoring to a remote screen are? Is it a trailing cable or is wireless linkage possible?

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Windows movie maker. pre-installed on windows OS..
thanks pumps but not sure that does what I want. I must have hundreds of folders containing stills from films I've made. Eg one meet might produce 20 scenes, variants on being sucked, giving o, sex in a few positions etc. I could manually go through each folder and copy and paste one still into a new folder. Id rather get a piece of software to trawl through them all and do it for me a) cos I'm being lazy and b) cos there'd be a bonus of not knowing which particular stills I'll get to see

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I wonder if any of you can tell me what the options for real time monitoring to a remote screen are? Is it a trailing cable or is wireless linkage possible?
Now that sounds a bit stalker-like! What activity have you in mind for such capture?

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thanks pumps but not sure that does what I want. I must have hundreds of folders containing stills from films I've made. Eg one meet might produce 20 scenes, variants on being sucked, giving o, sex in a few positions etc. I could manually go through each folder and copy and paste one still into a new folder. Id rather get a piece of software to trawl through them all and do it for me a) cos I'm being lazy and b) cos there'd be a bonus of not knowing which particular stills I'll get to see

Are you talking about a photo or the preview  of your video file windows gives you?


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Most girls refused to be filmed. And when they accept they want to wear a mask....
How to convince them?

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Are you talking about a photo or the preview  of your video file windows gives you?
A photo - stills from the video

Offline pumps

Most girls refused to be filmed. And when they accept they want to wear a mask....
How to convince them?

find alternative prostitutes which happily do filming.

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any good free video editing software ?

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Now that sounds a bit stalker-like! What activity have you in mind for such capture?
If you ever watch a Dirty Director vid, there is usually a monitor positioned behind the pov cameraman  so that the girl (woman /granny) can see herself in the shot. He often asks if she can see herself ok. In some instances it would be easier to view a monitor rather than having to glance down at a handheld camera viewfinder/screen.

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any good free video editing software ?
I use videopad and recommend it.

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If you ever watch a Dirty Director vid, there is usually a monitor positioned behind the pov cameraman  so that the girl (woman /granny) can see herself in the shot. He often asks if she can see herself ok. In some instances it would be easier to view a monitor rather than having to glance down at a handheld camera viewfinder/screen.
I guess it's possible to use chromecast but I've not tried it.

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Question on storage - can I assume a password protected USB is the favoured option?

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Question on storage - can I assume a password protected USB is the favoured option?
I'd recommend an encrypted partition on your hard drive for better security lots of space and ease of access when you want to view your handiwork. TrueCrypt, Vera crypt are good examples. Password protection alone isn't much protection, strong encryption is the way forward

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I'd recommend an encrypted partition on your hard drive for better security lots of space and ease of access when you want to view your handiwork. TrueCrypt, Vera crypt are good examples. Password protection alone isn't much protection, strong encryption is the way forward

+1 to this. I always move the recordings onto an encrypted drive as soon as I get home, and then remember to take a few photos of the garden or something a few days later to scupper the chances of someone running file recovery on the memory card.

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+1 to this. I always move the recordings onto an encrypted drive as soon as I get home, and then remember to take a few photos of the garden or something a few days later to scupper the chances of someone running file recovery on the memory card.
I shred the files on the memory card using avg in a right click menu on explorer. In my tests recuva didn't find anything afterwards but it does pick up partially overwritten files, of the type that I guess could be found by your photo overwrite method?

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I shred the files on the memory card using avg in a right click menu on explorer. In my tests recuva didn't find anything afterwards but it does pick up partially overwritten files, of the type that I guess could be found by your photo overwrite method?

File shredding is definitely going to be the most reliable method. I usually fill up my cards within a few weeks with work stuff, so they are rarely in a recoverable state for long.

At least the cameras give the files mundane names, IMG0001.JPG is far less conspicuous than Ellen_Anal_001.jpg!

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Hmm a lot of these things sound wise but sadly also far beyond my technical abilities - hence a password protected USB being on the cards...

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Whenever I have needed to get rid of stuff - securely - whether porn or other, Eraser has been the best for me.
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My approach in filming sex that I've developed with trial and error has been that I have five cameras rather then relying on one.
If you look at a sports event for example boxing they have lot's of cameras pointing at the ring and cut to the one which is showing the action best depending on where it goes.
As another example Backroom Casting has three or more which he switches across.
For that reason and generally I wouldn't go over the top on price and spec but best to get the same one to keep things simple.
And have some basic idea as to how you'd cut and paste segments to make a video that switches viewpoint as required.

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I stick a couple onto the ceiling over the bed either ends
One on a tripod
One close to hand for POV highlights eg point at her as you enter her ass etc
One lower down on a wall where she would be facing in doggy etc

For sticking on the ceiling or wall this is my homemade solution

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I've filmed about 20 girls using this setup in the time since I stopped posting on the forum so over a 2 and half year period.
If it's a punt in practice an outcall would work best so you can setup in your own time.

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I've filmed about 20 girls using this setup in the time since I stopped posting on the forum so over a 2 and half year period.
If it's a punt in practice an outcall would work best so you can setup in your own time.
Fuck me nice to hear from you again mate. Glad you're still around and clearly pushing the frontiers of selfie porn. I've been pretty static on that development front, perhaps the shove I need is this news of your impressive five cam set up!

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Lol damn.... 5 cameras.

There's no hiding for the prossie lol

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My approach in filming sex that I've developed with trial and error has been that I have five cameras rather then relying on one.
If you look at a sports event for example boxing they have lot's of cameras pointing at the ring and cut to the one which is showing the action best depending on where it goes.
As another example Backroom Casting has three or more which he switches across.
For that reason and generally I wouldn't go over the top on price and spec but best to get the same one to keep things simple.
And have some basic idea as to how you'd cut and paste segments to make a video that switches viewpoint as required.

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I stick a couple onto the ceiling over the bed either ends
One on a tripod
One close to hand for POV highlights eg point at her as you enter her ass etc
One lower down on a wall where she would be facing in doggy etc

For sticking on the ceiling or wall this is my homemade solution

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I've filmed about 20 girls using this setup in the time since I stopped posting on the forum so over a 2 and half year period.
If it's a punt in practice an outcall would work best so you can setup in your own time.

Cameras stuck on ceilings, wouldn’t of thought of that, I have used one camcorder on a tripod for a long shot, and compact digital camera for closeups.

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Lol damn.... 5 cameras.

There's no hiding for the prossie lol

I used to have three, I noticed I missed things, like the look on her face in doggy.
Once setup you can not worry about filming and enjoy the moment (and pov as and when you want to).
Most of your footage will be crap but some basic editing and you'll have a quality show.

I'm surprised more people on here don't film.
There used to be a reviewer on here password02 who'd post about reviewing so he could read when he was an old man etc, why not film to view which is 100 times better.

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I've filmed about 20 girls using this setup in the time since I stopped posting on the forum so over a 2 and half year period.
If it's a punt in practice an outcall would work best so you can setup in your own time.

How do they react when you ask about filming them, and must admit, its a brilliant set up you have

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The latest iPhone is able to capture 4K with 60FPS. After downsampling to FullHD 60FPS video quality is very good.

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I used to have three, I noticed I missed things, like the look on her face in doggy.
Once setup you can not worry about filming and enjoy the moment (and pov as and when you want to).
Most of your footage will be crap but some basic editing and you'll have a quality show.

I'm surprised more people on here don't film.
There used to be a reviewer on here password02 who'd post about reviewing so he could read when he was an old man etc, why not film to view which is 100 times better.


I film alot, but usually only POV as I don't generally want to be on camera (face etc).  I can understand why alot of folks don't film....simply because its evidence....

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The latest iPhone is able to capture 4K with 60FPS. After downsampling to FullHD 60FPS video quality is very good.

the 60fps is abit of a red herring.

unless attemping a slow mo shot, but even then 60fps isn't really slow enough.... 120 +

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the 60fps is abit of a red herring.

unless attemping a slow mo shot, but even then 60fps isn't really slow enough.... 120 +

Yes, for slow-mo 120FPS is a minimum but for normal videos i always choose 60, it looks smooth.

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How do they react when you ask about filming them, and must admit, its a brilliant set up you have
I've only ever asked if it's on their likes list and usually their response is the same about any other query of a genuinely offered service. Often they like to be reassured that it's for personal use only, which is of course absolutely right and given the new laws on revenge porn you'd be mental to share without permission beyond your own eyes! Some though will try and charge extra, or back out, or impose restrictions on what you can film or for how long.

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I've only ever asked if it's on their likes list and usually their response is the same about any other query of a genuinely offered service. Often they like to be reassured that it's for personal use only, which is of course absolutely right and given the new laws on revenge porn you'd be mental to share without permission beyond your own eyes! Some though will try and charge extra, or back out, or impose restrictions on what you can film or for how long.

I really need to look into the laws about revenge porn, mainly whether it applies to paying a prostitute for the privilege to film her. Not that I want to share a single thing but it would be good to know exactly where I stand.

Obviously in 75% of cases with the prossies that will show their face on camera don't want it shared/ distributed which is fine and respected, where as the other 25% say they really dont give a fuck what you do with it and tell you to fill your boots, one even told me if I were to make any money from it she wanted 50% of the profits, I just laughed, but she was dead serious.

I know for example Miss Carter has backtracked as she no longer allows filming because according to her profile she was told "its been uploaded" but I categorically remember her being a prossie that didn't care who it was shared to etc, she even sent me a clip of her sucking dick/fucking that was in circulation :sarcastic:. now there's a sudden change of heart.



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Yes, for slow-mo 120FPS is a minimum but for normal videos i always choose 60, it looks smooth.

Yeah I did a 120fps facial with my mirrorless, it was alot of effort for what it was worth loool.




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I have been filming girls for a long time, but only if they show their face in the film. Sometimes a get a good movie, it depends on the girl and the tools you use.

For the girl you can do to little... sometimes she is trying to avoid looking at the camera or she stops the action and does something to spoil the movie. If she delivers a bad performance don't see her again, remember that paid her for the filming. There's nothing else you can do.

Regarding the material, that's what I do and advise:

-Use at least two cameras. I use the SJcam SJ7 Star, which is a cheap version of the GoPro and allows me to film in native 4K and use up to 32 Gb micro memory cards for 3 hours of filming. It used to have a problem provoked by a cool aesthetic design but not tested that made it a little bit practical, probably solved by now. The camera metal cover tended to overheat. It could be solved with the next two pieces of advice.
-Use a tripod for the 3rd person point of view. It also avoids the vibration and shakes or you being the cameraman and the actor.
-Use GoPro accessories like the magic arm, or suction cups for the POV. Also, use cages/boxes that allow you to pick up the camera easily.
-Edit the movie and select only the best takes and angles. The editing software NHC Video Pad is free, good and easy to use. Also, it is quite easy to find cracks and serials to open the pro features. One of its advantages is that it allows zooming!!! So you can select take that otherwise they wouldn't be good, but after zooming you remove/hide the part that you don't want in the movie :)
-Edit the sound. After creating the film that you wanted, use the original master sound and the sound of your movie to create the sound that will add to the final movie version. NHC also have WavePad that is very easy to use. Editing the sound basically consist of opening your movie with WavePad to extract the audio file. Doing the same with the master. Selecting and counting the time of the sound that you want to replace and finding the same time in the master, then copy paste in the right time point in the timeline. Finally, remove/unlink the sound of your movie and add the sound file that you have created, which is of the same time length that the one you are replacing. Finally, save the movie with the new sound as a new file. Repeat until you are satisfied with the sound. I have created new conversations and replaced wrong conversations with seducing conversations using this technique.
-Hint: I normally star the movie by the end, recording a BJ with a big cumshot on the girl.

And, please, do not upload the movies to xHamster, Vimeo, PornHub or the Tubes. They could stop showing their faces in the movies :(

Cheers.
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Good point on NCH software mate. It is very good for a free download and the ability to zoom in as well as apply other effects is very handy. I've not edited sound much but a couple of times I've apologised mid cumshot for splattering the eyes, hair or whatever. Now being a gent that felt right at the time but the perv in me that wants to watch it over and over for wank facilitation, doesn't want to hear it! So overlaying it with general background noise from elsewhere in the footage has worked a treat and allowed me to enjoy the messiest of facials I've given, without being reminded of the guilt I felt in the moment  :yahoo:

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anyone ever tried this? if so how does it compare to the head mount?

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Anybody else using Sony action cams?  One alternative to go-pros.
I find that it is so freaking easy to grip the tiny unobtrusive thing unmounted in your hand and angle, and you don't bother looking at any viewfinder to check what's in view, just point it.  Great image, stabilisation and sound.  I leave it on through the whole punt and just pick it up off the bed whenever I want to stick it in her face for the BJ, other close-ups, or POV fucking and then drop it back on the bed when I want to use 2 hands on her.
Mine is quite old, but the later models still have the same compact form factor.
Of course, I'd also have a tripod mounted camcorder filming separately.

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Anybody else using Sony action cams?  One alternative to go-pros.
I find that it is so freaking easy to grip the tiny unobtrusive thing unmounted in your hand and angle, and you don't bother looking at any viewfinder to check what's in view, just point it.  Great image, stabilisation and sound.  I leave it on through the whole punt and just pick it up off the bed whenever I want to stick it in her face for the BJ, other close-ups, or POV fucking and then drop it back on the bed when I want to use 2 hands on her.
Mine is quite old, but the later models still have the same compact form factor.
Of course, I'd also have a tripod mounted camcorder filming separately.

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All action cameras work,

I tried one of these cameras, The image quality was good....but overall I'd say I'm not a fan of that form factor for various reasons.

Also view finders are good because if lighting is bad and you don't realise it, it'll be evident there and then, instead of getting home and finding super grainy footage.


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Cameras stuck on ceilings, wouldn’t of thought of that

Based on experience I've found that the ceiling ones are the ones I always watch afterwards.

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Managed to film my first punt.  Discovered that my camera only films for 15 mins max....

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Managed to film my first punt.  Discovered that my camera only films for 15 mins max....

Five minutes to spare then  :D