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Author Topic: The Definitive UK Punting Guide to Filming Punts?  (Read 12957 times)

Offline socks

I've had a few PM discussions with members of UKP about filming, most usually asking for suggestions or making recommendations for film-friendly prossies. A recent exchange I had though has been really useful in terms of how to ensure the best possible selfie-porn gets produced. I've filmed a lot but just a few PMs identified some great ideas that I'd never thought of, from positions in which to get the best footage, to what cams to use and where, to how to display the final results for best post-punt "reflection".

As a result how about everyone who's up for it and who has got good ideas to share - or pitfalls to avoid - chips in on this thread so that we can collate an evolving resource of use to all of us? I have searched the forum and whilst there's plenty of topics about filming, only one actually focussed on tips, and it only scratched the surface and wandered off course a bit, managing 18 posts to the last one in Dec 2013.

My suggestions would be that we avoid discussion within this thread about whether or not filming is something you enjoy or find distracting. Instead how about aiming it at us punters who already do it, or have decided they want to do it and want to
-minimise the risk of the punt or the resultant videos being shit
-best direct the action so you get the selfie-porn you want
-avoid the footage getting into the wrong hands
-know about editing software/creative features
-share tales of great camera work etc etc etc

Offline infoseeker

Great idea for a thread socks.  :thumbsup:


Filming punts can lead to fantastic results.
My experience has been gained by filming punts and with gfs.


My advice for today is to Get A Tripod, it absolutely makes the world of difference!


Honestly any old or new or cheap one will do but if you are buying then Amazon Hama Star 61 is only £14 and more then does the job.
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Offline dkn

My advice for today is to Get A Tripod, it absolutely makes the world of difference!
+1 to getting a tripod!

Make sure your battery is charged and that you have enough space on your memory card!

I use my Panasonic Lumix camera for video. It does week, but does have an annoying 15 min video limit. So, over a long punt, I have to remember to keep restating it.  This has resulted in me losing a few key moments when we've been lost in action.

Offline The happy one

I brought a song camcorder and thought away I go. Total bollocks

I did not check how wide the view was

I have to hold it at arms length and zoom right out to get even just half the girls head and my cock in

So always check how close you have to be with the camara you want it within an easy hold the footage still to be wide so you can zoom in for the best strokes
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I bought a £400 Panasonic HD camcorder and the quality of the results are incredible. But I haven't used a tripod so far, just put the camera on a shelf or a set of drawers and that is a bit limiting. So tripod is a good idea. Also, if it's possible to have as much natural light as you can - while still being discreet - then that makes a world of difference.
On my next filmed punt I'm going to try some POV, including getting the girl to hold the camera while in action.

Another idea - if, like me, you like some stills of the action as well there are programs avaiable which will extract high quality stills from the video. You can set them to extract every x seconds or if you want every frame. My camcorder also let's me do something similar in a rather more clunky way.

Offline JR

Tips in summary:
Buy a HD camcorder & mini tripod, will get better results with a £200 camcorder than any phone, or try 2nd hand
If at all possible use diffuse natural light (daylight punt), if not try & keep the light source(s) out of shot
Mix hand held POV & tripod shots.
Long version
I have only done this a couple of times but got good results with one girl on an outcall to my home last summer during the day.
My house is not overlooked so lots of natural light. Oldish HD sony handycam with hard disc of many hours capacity.
Role play with the girl coming into my front room, I was sitting on one of my sofa's in the bay window with the light behind me but the sun had swung round to the other side of the house so got great well lit footage, no deep shadows. I was still sitting on the sofa for the BJ which concluded this part of the session, also nicely lit.
Upstairs for more fun, same side of the house, camera set on mini tripod on windowsill for wide shot of the bed, also great light.
The girls was also keen that the film turned out OK and helped me adjust the position of the camera to make sure all the action was in shot.
Nice memories!

Online Tiger63

I was filmed at a couple of swingers parties that I used to get invited too.It was areal professional outfit as well..TBH you forget about the man with the camera....the man with the lights and the Mic man.....theres that much going on ....its when you announce that you are about to come that it becomes a bit of a problem.
Everyone becomes focused on your cock, and as Iam quite a heavy cumer,there was quite a bit of interest. Fortunatley  I didnt let myself down and both vids were pretty good...still got a copy of one.

Not sure how it would be on a 1-2-1 with a wg with a camera set up in the corner as you would only see the same position.

I've recently wanted to start filming. I only have a 39 second bj so far done on my phone. It's a start..

I say bring £50 extra just in case. Ask at the start before you pay. Or email in advance. I hate the sound of my voice on tape, next one I'm saying nothing and will let her do the talking.

Action!  :hi:

Offline aardvark

It may make it a little scripted, but plan what you want to film and how you are going to do it.

Make sure that your camera is switched on when you reach a crucial point.  I missed a great POV facial cum shot because I hadn't made sure it was on.  I use my phone (which has a good camera) with a large capacity SD card, for POV stuff, so now I just leave it running next to the pillow and pick it up to use it when I need to.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2015, 11:15:17 AM by aardvark »

Offline Dime

This is something I'd be quite interested in. Only issue though is actually finding a WG who would allow you to film, as there would be a risk that the punter could upload it to a porn site, and then there is a chance of her real  identity being uncovered as the whole world could see her. During one punt, I secretly witched on my voice recorder on my phone in my jacket pocket,  then later on listened to myself fucking her, which was really satisfying.

Offline yorkshire123

To comply with sock's wish to avoid the why we do it discussions I've started another thread to do so
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=61455.new#new
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This is something I'd be quite interested in. Only issue though is actually finding a WG who would allow you to film, as there would be a risk that the punter could upload it to a porn site, and then there is a chance of her real  identity being uncovered as the whole world could see her. During one punt, I secretly witched on my voice recorder on my phone in my jacket pocket,  then later on listened to myself fucking her, which was really satisfying.

I'm not into filming but i did two very nice photo sessions with prossies. I just told them these photos i took are for my private usage only and will always stay on my HDD/SSD or other data mass storage like DVDs/Blurays. I will never share or upload them somewhere on internet.

Filming is not my thing but with my photo gear results would be spectacular. My Nikon DSLR captures uncompressed (raw) video in 1080p/60fps and small Leica captures compressed video in 2160p/30fps. On a top of this tripod and standard lens Nikkor 24-70mm f2.8 would do a great job.
But if i would go for video i would do "girl solo" only (prossie playing with herself, toying and all this stuff).

Offline socks

Chuffed to see the topic has been well received and indeed that Yorkshire has helped out by setting up that "why do you" thread to hopefully keep this one focussed on "best practise".

Having a tripod is almost as important as having a camera in my book, if you're going to get footage that is properly ummm... inspiring! But noting already that some feel a bit awkward lugging gear into a punt, what things have helped people in getting decent hand held vids?

Firstly, for me, I think you have to accept that this is the most intrusive way of filming as it really does detract from the punt in my experience - you have to be convinced that the lasting record is worth quite a reduction in unbounded excitement at the time itself.

You need to really focus on keeping your hand still and resisting the very strong temptation to move too quickly to different angles. I have lots of footage where on viewing I am frustrated that I haven't stayed long enough in one place, on the close up I'm capturing.

If you haven't got a forward facing view finder, or a front cam if using a phone, you need to practise spatial awareness. Because when you're filming a bj from arms length, it really is much better when you can watch your cock being licked and sliding in and out of the lady's mouth, rather than being stuck with 30 seconds of the back of her head bobbing around!

Watch POV porn and pay close attention to what shots you like most, practise them - and stick to them in the punt. Don't let yourself/the WG be distracted/distract you from what you're after getting. Too often I've been overtaken by the excitement of the punt and been diverted from my plan, with what seemed like good ideas at that moment. The results usually disappoint.

And the hardest discipline I've found is the POV facial. I have loads of half arsed handheld cumshot footage because the camera is all over the place. If POV cumming footage is your goal and you can't afford repeat visits to get it right, my tip would be to watch your ejaculation though the viewfinder, as that helps keep the cam still(ish) and pointing in the the right direction!

Here's hoping this thread builds into the comprehensive resource it's starting to become!  :drinks:
« Last Edit: July 09, 2015, 11:30:42 PM by socks »

Offline d00fer

Posting on both filming threads. I use my low-end DSLR (lots of memory and batteries, as well as plenty of awareness of the CCD time limits) on a fixed tripod, but with the view screen flipped so I can move the camera to improve the framing. I also use my GoPro on an angular stick for POV footage. I treat filming meets as if I'm directing some shitty home made porn (which is what is).

With the fixed camera I'm always mindful of the angles and view of the action reverting to stuff that will look better on camera than I'd necessarily prefer. POV footage is a bit easier to 'direct' due to the versatility of the rig.

Apart from reviewing whilst downloading the footage on to a non-internet connected computer and subsequent secure external HDD, I never look at it again apart from by accident. Fuck knows why I bother.

Offline Marmite

I am more a stills person myself but I have done some filming in the past.

Here's few things I would think about.

What is the film about, what do you want to see and not see, how long is going to last.

Plan it, story board it, placement of people and activity.

Camera height/angles. Deep of field for long shots and how close for close ups.

A lot of amateur filming is often too high, it is easier on the viewer to be just above or on a similar level with subject.  Point of view is common and good but the camera low down looking up gives a less common perspective but very effective.  (One my favourite directors is Yasujirō Ozu was well known for the use of low camera angles.)

I would probably want to film from 3 heights,  low/ground, similar/just above level and from head height.  May need more than one tripod or use clamps on chairs etc.

Practice with the camera if you not familiar with it. 

Experiment with lighting, if you are over twenty stay away from fluorescent's or diffuse the light from them.  Natural light is probably easiest to work with but additional diffused light will probably be useful.

Screen test yourself in the various positions that you will be filmed in. Never underestimate the ability of a camera to make big things look small and small things look big.  Its all about angles.

If the co-star has been filmed before she may have some useful input.

Have the ability for a live camera feed to be sent to a monitor/ laptop out of the field of view so you can 'direct yourself' without leaving the action.

Porn films usually end with the money shot but that may edited in at the end, it could have happened earlier in the shoot.  Its a movie it doesn't have be in real time.

If you pick the right co-star it could be a lot of fun. I would try to include her right from the outset and involve her with the planning so no surprises on the day.

Watch out for the budget though being producer, director, writer and star is a lot of balls to juggle at once.

Offline jsparky

I have been thinking about filming my punt, but having read all the hassle of tripod/buying a camcorder, etc. it could be quite costly for a one off of my bucket list.  :D

Another way around it is probably hire a camera man, I wonder does anyone know a camera man for hire on AW? I've been to party and don't mind having sex in front of people, obviously privacy and security is very important, it should be on removable media and could be retrieved straight away.

I would probably be disgusted by my self, bold/middle age, etc;  :scare:and just destroy the film straight away.   :crazy: 

Offline BoabT

If you can't afford a camcorder, depending on your laptop, you can often get a good quality film just by recording off your webcam.
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Offline infoseeker

SEGMENTING OUT THE ACTION
My advice for today is think about how you will be able to edit the footage, at the start, nothing fancy needed, just to be able to segment out bits you like.
My experience is without being able to do that there is the potential it lies there gathering digital dust, whilst with doing that it could be being used as daily wank fodder.
Essentially my only motivation for filming is I'd much rather see my cock in action then another, I find it distateful to look at another mans cock.  :hi:



GUIDE FOR SEGMENTS
Example who knows what will actually happen when but it won't matter as long as you can segment out
- A prelude of her prancing around in sexy dress
- A few mins of bj
- A few mins of missionary pounding
- A few mins of doggy pounding
- A bit building upto lingering cum shot

Then all you need to do is make a playlist to play those segments in the order which best builds up wank intensity.
For me I look to make a 10min-13min playlist.
Alternatively you can recombine the segments using the same software into a 10min-13min video.



IDEAS FROM PORN
You can get ideas from porn that you like, I got many ideas from
Backroom Casting Couch Porn
http://www.youporn.com/collections/videos/170457



EDITING/SEGMENTING SOFTWARE
I found with my Sony Camcorder(s) which outputs .mp4, the free Sony Software
Sony PlayMemories Home
was easily better then alternative paid options.

When I've recorded on Apple iPhone which outputs .mov you can segment out quite easily with QuickTime Pro, there is a licence for QuickTime Pro in this YouTube video.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 02:20:58 AM by infoseeker »
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Offline infoseeker

socks as discussed I've made a PuntingWiki page.


I might not be around to add much more Info but my advice is once the Info has been added by all collate it onto the Wiki page
http://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/Guide_to_Filming_Punts


That will be much better for reference purposes.
In 10 years you will be known as the one who Popularised and made Filming Punts accessible to the common punter.  :cool:
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Offline socks

Think it through

Having just found the profile picture of www.adultwork.com/1471679 or https://www.adultwork.com/Lilywhitexx, there's a lesson for us filmers in making sure we don't inadvertently share more than we intended, or reduce what might otherwise be a horny shot/scene to comedy gold.



Whilst mirrors/reflections off windows can enhance your experience and footage, make sure you are aware of them whilst setting up and photographing/recording.

The chap who took lilywhite's pic has just about retained his anonymity and he may even like the tackiness that his bulging Y-fronts adds to the shot. But if you aspire to a certain standard of professionalism or indeed let WG's have pics/footage you record for their use, check and double check that you aren't accidentally revealing more of yourself than is wise. Photoshop (or the like) may well be the answer for pictures but why create the extra work if you don't have to? Video is an altogether more lengthy process though if it needs 'cleansing'!


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Offline BeesKnees

I use my Panasonic Lumix camera for video. It does week, but does have an annoying 15 min video limit. So, over a long punt, I have to remember to keep restating it.  This has resulted in me losing a few key moments when we've been lost in action.

That is because the filesize of the video is greater than the filesystem supports (usu. fat32 for memory cards, so ~4gb per file). So if you're shooting in 1080 full hd mode, it maxes at 16mins or so. I learnt this the hard way and have set the video resolution to 720. I use a bridge camera instead of a dedicated video camera so I don't quite have a choice.

Tripod is defo a must. I'm think of buying this quick release tripod adapter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007CDKUFS). Hopefully it'll allow you to instantly detach the camera from the tripod for some close up footage. None of that unscrewing business which is a major buzzkill

Offline socks

Tripod is defo a must. I'm think of buying this quick release tripod adapter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007CDKUFS). Hopefully it'll allow you to instantly detach the camera from the tripod for some close up footage. None of that unscrewing business which is a major buzzkill
That is a great point mate and one for video virgins to consider as it probably wouldn't occur to anyone until the point of 'buzzkill'! I've had a couple of tripods and both came with those adapters so I hadn't even thought of this as an issue.  :drinks:

Offline Daffodil

A few tips I have come up with over the years:

1) Ask! Girls who don't have "being filmed" as a like have been known to agree to filming. The converse is also true. It's important to check that "being filmed" doesn't have caveats like no face, only so many pictures, etc.

2) It is an extra that will often be charged for, but I think it's an acceptable extra. She sacrifices some anonymity and you get something hard to take away from the punt and use time and again.

3) Outcalls are best for filming. It gives you ample time to get the camera set up. Know exactly where you need to be, what positions will look best, get the lighting right, etc.

4) Tripods are good, but I've always ended up with just the one aspect and the action can be a little far away. I've considered getting a GoPro with head strap, and will take the hit to my dignity.

5) Ensure you have plenty of battery and memory. My camera failed within five minutes of a punt once. Disaster.

6) The phone camera can be a great substitute. I use an iphone6. They're small enough to hold easily, have front and rear displays, the picture quality is pretty good, and I like the homemade feel to it. This is amateur porn at the end of the day and the rough edges of phone filming can be a turn on in itself.

Socks, do we have any definitive lists of girls who are enthusiastic filmers? Be worth creating one?

Offline socks


Socks, do we have any definitive lists of girls who are ent6husiastic filmers? Be worth creating one?
Lots of good points there daffodil. The head mounted cam is something I've thought of but not done. My suspicion is that the theory won't translate that well to practice but a contribution from someone who has tried it would be very welcome. It's not a technique I've noticed used in porn - if it worked it would be prevalent I'd assume?

The list of willing filmers is a great idea. There's mention of good girls dotted around the board which makes finding them hard! What's best - adding girls within this thread or starting a new one? I'm tempted to suggest adding them in here.


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