Amours payment plan?

[smiths]

Exactly what I said, it does not take a half intelligent human being to figure out.

But she likes to boast about how she is in with the police like on her website in the news section all about the police, just another ploy to get punters to think she is untouchable.

Even if she has had any dealings with the police no doubt she could be useful for info about her rivals.

Many pimps have said before there friendly with the local police even helped them out with a dangerous punter until it is there time to get raided which does happen.

She also said she isn't breaking the law, ALL Agencies that control prostitutes for gain, i.e. take an agreed cut of a WGs fee are breaking the law of course. If she also provides the WGs premises she is also running a brothel. At ANY moment that suits the police she COULD get done with in addition to the police, the taxman and POCA after her. Its now in the polices financial interests to let pimps operate and make money then raid them under POCA, cosying up to the local police is a good tactic for a pimp but could change in a heartbeat. A business made of straw that could ruin the pimps life for ever.

[greychap]

She also said she isn't breaking the law, ALL Agencies that control prostitutes for gain, i.e. take an agreed cut of a WGs fee are breaking the law of course. If she also provides the WGs premises she is also running a brothel. At ANY moment that suits the police she COULD get done with in addition to the police, the taxman and POCA after her. Its now in the polices financial interests to let pimps operate and make money then raid them under POCA, cosying up to the local police is a good tactic for a pimp but could change in a heartbeat. A business made of straw that could ruin the pimps life for ever.

She just uses tactics to fool people and some believe it. I have known people in this industry that had boasted about how there on good terms with the local police and the police are not interested in them and only the bad guys.

Well 2 of them are not in the industry anymore due to there friendly local police deciding to make an example of them so I never buy the fact anybody is untouchable.

Even if she has paid some taxes and registered for VAT if she gets targeted they will want all her money and the houses and cars and all money frozen and the court case will probably be a couple of years while they get all the evidence together which would be easy in her case as she has a very big talkative mouth.

She does not keep her head down like other agency owners she likes the attention.

[smiths]

She just uses tactics to fool people and some believe it. I have known people in this industry that had boasted about how there on good terms with the local police and the police are not interested in them and only the bad guys.

Well 2 of them are not in the industry anymore due to there friendly local police deciding to make an example of them so I never buy the fact anybody is untouchable.

Even if she has paid some taxes and registered for VAT if she gets targeted they will want all her money and the houses and cars and all money frozen and the court case will probably be a couple of years while they get all the evidence together which would be easy in her case as she has a very big talkative mouth.

She does not keep her head down like other agency owners she likes the attention.

Problem with paying tax and/or registering for VAT is your then on the official radar of course. Would many pimps actually risk doing this, not in my view, cash-in while they can has been the modus of most pimps who I have read about after being done. If smart they also run a legit business and pay tax/vat through that so at least they are paying something.

[greychap]

Problem with paying tax and/or registering for VAT is your then on the official radar of course. Would many pimps actually risk doing this, not in my view, cash-in while they can has been the modus of most pimps who I have read about after being done. If smart they also run a legit business and pay tax/vat through that so at least they are paying something.

This is a good point very good point.

Your dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.

If you was investigated by the tax man and you have not registered for paying tax with the earnings then your in shit that is without all the fines on top of that. If you are registered they might be ok with what they get off you for the moment...until

If its a police investigation then your an easier target as like you said on the radar and easy for them to get a warrant as not much investigations need to be done to bring you in.

Then you have the ones that might be paying tax but saying for example its a hairdresser business well that is called money laundering then as your hiding you are running an agency.

[sentinel]

I'm not well enough up with the law to make a judgement as to whether Escort agencies are acting illegally, and will have to leave that decision to others.

All I know is that I have done business over the years with several local agencies including Amour, Diamonds and Notorious, and any resultant issues have been few and far between.

You pays your money and takes your chances in this game, but with experience you can hopefully minimize the risk and become aware of possible pitfalls. 

[Reeson69]

Do you get interest on this payment scheme?

[greychap]

 

If you can't manage to hide/save up/put elsewhere 50 or 100 quid, then do you really have much hope of achieving anything in life?






[/quote]


This is priceless could not stop laughing, and it is totally true 

[greychap]

From an impartial point of view, i would say that this is a really bad idea regardless of the agency involved.

If you can't manage to hide/save up/put elsewhere 50 or 100 quid, then do you really have much hope of achieving anything in life?

Apart from the fact you are leaving a paper trail, risking your money and probably sharing your bank details. I thought in this game it was best to stay anonymous?

Even with a discount involved, not for me regardless of the reduction or agency involved.

Next you'll be asking if you can pay by credit card by swiping it between her arse cheeks!

Beyond funny but so true

[greychap]

Do you get interest on this payment scheme?

What do you think??

The agency probably does and its good for them knowing regular money is being paid in and keeps the punter with there agency.

[NotTooOld4It]

Usually this kind of thing you need protection to hold people's money like if you take a deposit from a person renting your flat the money you hold must be insured.

Have no idea why anybody would do this or trust this arrangement. If they got raided by the police and investigated all there money would be frozen and no doubt taken from proceeds of crime act and no doubt customers would be interviewed over this scheme too.

you are correct with your first comment, but I'm not sure about the second.

If the money is depoited in a separate trust account, it is probably safe. It would only become the 'proceeds of crime' - and remember, prostitution is not a crime (yet) - after it had been withdrawn from the account and paid to Amour. But, as I said in my earlier comment, I don't know what the banking arrangments are and anybody looking at this scheme should check on that. The alternative of course is to have your own 'payment plan' and stick a few quid in a savings account somewhere, on a regular basis. ;

[greychap]

you are correct with your first comment, but I'm not sure about the second.

If the money is depoited in a separate trust account, it is probably safe. It would only become the 'proceeds of crime' - and remember, prostitution is not a crime (yet) - after it had been withdrawn from the account and paid to Amour. But, as I said in my earlier comment, I don't know what the banking arrangments are and anybody looking at this scheme should check on that. The alternative of course is to have your own 'payment plan' and stick a few quid in a savings account somewhere, on a regular basis. ;

If the agency is under investigation and the police are involved especially if it is going to go to court all money they have in accounts is frozen depending on the outcome in court. A lot of the time the accused might be given an allowance just for the basics to survive week by week until the court case is over.

I know this for a fact.

[greychap]

you are correct with your first comment, but I'm not sure about the second.

If the money is depoited in a separate trust account, it is probably safe. It would only become the 'proceeds of crime' - and remember, prostitution is not a crime (yet) - after it had been withdrawn from the account and paid to Amour. But, as I said in my earlier comment, I don't know what the banking arrangments are and anybody looking at this scheme should check on that. The alternative of course is to have your own 'payment plan' and stick a few quid in a savings account somewhere, on a regular basis. ;

Like domino999 said if you cannot save it yourself and have to go to the extremes of giving it to any agency  bit by bit something is seriously wrong especially as far as I know there is no big discounts for doing it this way. It is not even about trusting any agency its just pointless and odd for the punter to do. But if some enjoy this way of punting then carry on.

 

[sentinel]

All I can say for the benefit of Greychap and others is that the scheme is voluntary, so if anyone doesn't want to get involved with it for legal reasons or doesn't trust Amour with their money then don't bother.

I've not used it but that's up to me, no-one else.

[greychap]

All I can say for the benefit of Greychap and others is that the scheme is voluntary, so if anyone doesn't want to get involved with it for legal reasons or doesn't trust Amour with their money then don't bother.

I've not used it but that's up to me, no-one else.

Of course I and others know it is voluntary, it was just a discussion about wether it is legal and why would punters want to do it.

[wheatbeerlover]

All I can say for the benefit of Greychap and others is that the scheme is voluntary, so if anyone doesn't want to get involved with it for legal reasons or doesn't trust Amour with their money then don't bother.

I've not used it but that's up to me, no-one else.

THIS

Don't know how this has rumbled on for 3 pages, use it if you want, otherwise don't criticise someone who does. Each to their own

[MasterChief]

THIS

Don't know how this has rumbled on for 3 pages, use it if you want, otherwise don't criticise someone who does. Each to their own

That's why its called a discussion forum

[wheatbeerlover]

That's why its called a discussion forum

Nope this thread turned into bash Amour and anyone who might want to use the scheme

[greychap]

That's why its called a discussion forum

 

[greychap]

Nope this thread turned into bash Amour and anyone who might want to use the scheme

It can be discussed that is what the UKP site is about, it is not a pimps site for the benefit of them.

[wheatbeerlover]

It can be discussed that is what the UKP site is about, it is not a pimps site for the benefit of them.

Yes but not people laughing at someone using the scheme as if they couldn't put aside £100 by themselves, that was just being snide, no need for it

[greychap]

Yes but not people laughing at someone using the scheme as if they couldn't put aside £100 by themselves, that was just being snide, no need for it

Well I did not make that comment first but when I read the comments they had a point it is odd not many can deny that!

[MasterChief]

Nope this thread turned into bash Amour and anyone who might want to use the scheme

If you don't like the way a discussion goes, then contribute and move it to a direction you are happy with, I don't give a toss one way or another about this particular thread, but some reactions to it amuse me

[AnthG]

That's why its called a discussion forum

The problem is when people are posting positive experiences with Amour. They are being suggested as white knighting the agency. So its not exactly an even discussion as even that possibly frightens people off from posting due to how poorly regarded white knighting is.

There are two large agencies in the north east. Diamonds and Amour. Both are great but both have their own individual issues with them They are agencies so no matter what the agencies claim they are acting illegally to varying extents.

An agency owner, unless its run by Gerald Ratner, will never admit anything they do is illegal. Trying to convince them to change their mind and admit it, is not going to work as they can never admit to it as it would be admitting their own downfall.

[wheatbeerlover]

Well I did not make that comment first but when I read the comments they had a point it is odd not many can deny that!

What I do find odd/strange/weird is Amour accepting Paypal, thought it was cash is king game?

[greychap]

The problem is when people are posting positive experiences with Amour. They are being suggested as white knighting the agency. So its not exactly an even discussion as even that possibly frightens people off from posting due to how poorly regarded white knighting is.

There are two large agencies in the north east. Diamonds and Amour. Both are great but both have their own individual issues with them They are agencies so no matter what the agencies claim they are acting illegally to varying extents.

An agency owner, unless its run by Gerald Ratner, will never admit anything they do is illegal. Trying to convince them to change their mind and admit it, is not going to work as they can never admit to it as it would be admitting their own downfall.

I think that goes with any agency in the whole country, your always have people for and against and that is fine to say you have had a good experience but what is not fine to me when somebody will say they know the owner so well and they are perfect and would never do anything wrong to anyone....that is when it goes too far, nobody knows what a agency owner could be capable of unless they are them.

And as to them admitting anything illegal of course you don't expect them to but you also expect them to keep there heads down and not be on punter forums posting everything about themselves.

An agency is smarter keeping there head down and not attention seeking all the time and that goes for any agency before you say I mean just one.

[AnthG]

An agency is smarter keeping there head down and not attention seeking all the time and that goes for any agency before you say I mean just one.

The problem is, for the large two agencies in the region they are run totally different. And both times its caused issues for them.

There have been a few times when Diamonds have been regarded on the forum as worse than scum scraped off shoes. And people have said, over and over again things like "if Diamonds could care less about our business they will come on here and address all these issues. And still often nothing.

This has resulted in annoyance increasing, and increasing, until its at a tipping point. So Diamonds finally come onto the forum, make a massive long post of every single gripe all in one post. Promise to address all issues people are currently unhappy about. And then after about a week or two. Vanish completely from the forum until the next time this happens all over again.

Amour on the other hand Stacey takes a more instant approach. Any issue, she responds to it that day. And tries to fix it that day.

Both ways have their own merits. As those times when Diamonds come onto the forum and make their long posts they are seen as heros for that short period. And it does work as it appears like they really care with them as it gives the impression soon Diamonds will have a massive makeover and be perfect soon. But then after a while that vanishes due to people seeing only a few things they promised have been actually done.

Stacey's method however can be seen as the every watchful eye of whenever anything is said she straight away comments on it which can be a bit freakish as you sometimes don't say things expecting a response from the agency owner and so forth.

So like I say both have their merits. Both their negatives.

[greychap]

The problem is, for the large two agencies in the region they are run totally different. And both times its caused issues for them.

There have been a few times when Diamonds have been regarded on the forum as worse than scum scraped off shoes. And people have said, over and over again things like "if Diamonds could care less about our business they will come on here and address all these issues. And still often nothing.

This has resulted in annoyance increasing, and increasing, until its at a tipping point. So Diamonds finally come onto the forum, make a massive long post of every single gripe all in one post. Promise to address all issues people are currently unhappy about. And then after about a week or two. Vanish completely from the forum until the next time this happens all over again.

Amour on the other hand Stacey takes a more instant approach. Any issue, she responds to it that day. And tries to fix it that day.

Both ways have their own merits. As those times when Diamonds come onto the forum and make their long posts they are seen as heros for that short period. And it does work as it appears like they really care with them as it gives the impression soon Diamonds will have a massive makeover and be perfect soon. But then after a while that vanishes due to people seeing only a few things they promised have been actually done.

Stacey's method however can be seen as the every watchful eye of whenever anything is said she straight away comments on it which can be a bit freakish as you sometimes don't say things expecting a response from the agency owner and so forth.

So like I say both have their merits. Both their negatives.

I don't think any agency needs to come on here and post lots of things because it is all evidence to there downfall if they get looked in to. The site is only really for punters sharing info.

Some just like being in the spot light and want attention. They want the good comments when it is here and getting them extra bookings but then the bad comments they want you shut up at any cost.

[Kev3773]

The problem is when people are posting positive experiences with Amour. They are being suggested as white knighting the agency. So its not exactly an even discussion as even that possibly frightens people off from posting due to how poorly regarded white knighting is.

Totally agree

[smiths]

THIS

Don't know how this has rumbled on for 3 pages, use it if you want, otherwise don't criticise someone who does. Each to their own

Punters are free to post what they like on here within the rules, if they wish to criticise others that's their business.

[wheatbeerlover]

Punters are free to post what they like on here within the rules, if they wish to criticise others that's their business.

Oh well that sure makes for a pleasant forum...not

[gladragthehandbag]

Tbh I'll take loads of shit for this I suspect but I'd rather have a no feedback ee than any booking through agencies. To me it's someone making money for doing slightly more than fuck all

[webpunter]

Oh well that sure makes for a pleasant forum...not

Why not get concentrate your efforts on P$$Net then.  It would appear that your formal welcome onto UKP has been over-looked.  Or maybe not - but i can't be bothered to go through all the posts.  I think J999 should be the one on this occasion 

[yorkshire123]

Oh well that sure makes for a pleasant forum...not

Define pleasant 

Zero toleration for pimps, touts, white-knights, scammers/thieves, trolls, general wankers & up their own arse prossie's makes for a very pleasant forum in my book 

[marbella punts rule]

Just when I thought I had read it all now we have white-knighting of a pimps pre-punt savings club 

Personally I think if you have to pay for punting using such methods you should really take a good look at yourself & your financial situation, but each to their own I suppose 

completely agree... jeeez if I was spending my last £50 I had on punting i'd be devastated... I always assumed guys who punted did it at leisure and weren't particularly hampered by funds.. I was amazed to read this thread and the "saving club" but hey I guess every ones  priorities/situations are different 

[webpunter]

completely agree... jeeez if I was spending my last £50 I had on punting i'd be devastated... I always assumed guys who punted did it at leisure and weren't particularly hampered by funds.. I was amazed to read this thread and the "saving club" but hey I guess every ones  priorities/situations are different 

+1  Would like to think that this applies to very few UKP'ers.  But definitely applies to some blokes where they have an over-bearing dragon of an OH who keeps a sharp eye / rein on the finances.  And their income gets paid into a joint a/c.  But this does serve them right for having such an OH in the 1st place 

[Reeson69]

To encourage more investors Amour should make a monthly draw where the names of everyone investing in the scheme go into a hat and whoever's pulled out gets half an hour with the girl of their choice.

[daviemac]

To encourage more investors Amour should make a monthly draw where the names of everyone investing in the scheme go into a hat and whoever's pulled out gets half an hour with the girl of their choice.

I seem to remember they used to do that via a forum they aren't banned from. But nothing to do with the saving scheme

[NotTooOld4It]

I seem to remember they used to do that via a forum they aren't banned from. But nothing to do with the saving scheme

Thay still do.

[daviemac]

Thay still do.

didn't know that, mind I've had to lay off the punting for a while 'till me heart gets better so haven't been looking 

[themademan2]

There has been 800 views on this thread. Am i alone in thinking this thread has been started for the purpose of putting the boot into the Amour Agency?
We all know how agencies operate don't we, its a business operation thats been around long enough.
I have used Amour once, Diamonds twice and NNE once and every time without any problems at all. You have to be very naive not to know the risk's involved in the game.

Just saying by the way 

Pro amour post. U getting freebies mate?

[themademan2]

There has been 800 views on this thread. Am i alone in thinking this thread has been started for the purpose of putting the boot into the Amour Agency?
We all know how agencies operate don't we, its a business operation thats been around long enough.
I have used Amour once, Diamonds twice and NNE once and every time without any problems at all. You have to be very naive not to know the risk's involved in the game.

Just saying by the way 

Prior to doing this post, your own posts have mentioned AT LEAST 3 bookings with amour, when you have categorically stated u have only used them once in the post above. All your posts were prior to that date too. Your not letting on that your an amour fan when you are. Members, read his posts from pages 2 to 9 on his profile and I'm sure you will count more than 1 lass mentioned, let alone repeat bookings and will show this guy may not be letting on that he's doing amours donkey work on here

[Warwick Hunt]

Pro amour post. U getting freebies mate?

I think it was a fair comment TMM.

Please, go through all my posts and you will find that not all are pro Amour.

[greychap]

Prior to doing this post, your own posts have mentioned AT LEAST 3 bookings with amour, when you have categorically stated u have only used them once in the post above. All your posts were prior to that date too. Your not letting on that your an amour fan when you are. Members, read his posts from pages 2 to 9 on his profile and I'm sure you will count more than 1 lass mentioned, let alone repeat bookings and will show this guy may not be letting on that he's doing amours donkey work on here

I saw that as well and it crossed my mind but I kind of expect it really.

[themademan2]

I saw that as well and it crossed my mind but I kind of expect it really.

Shame he won't answer no more. He knows he been caught out lying

[Warwick Hunt]

Shame he won't answer no more. He knows he been caught out lying

Its not that TMM, Admin has blocked the replies.

Will you tell me where i have said that i have used Amour 3 times?

[OldAdmin]

Its not that TMM, Admin has blocked the replies.

Will you tell me where i have said that i have used Amour 3 times?

You last (deleted) post desperately (and ridiculously) defending Amour means no more posts about that agency will be allowed by you.
Despite what you might claim, I've seen enough to indicate you are more than a "one-time" client of Amour.

[themademan2]

You last (deleted) post desperately (and ridiculously) defending Amour means no more posts about that agency will be allowed by you.
Despite what you might claim, I've seen enough to indicate you are more than a "one-time" client of Amour.

Thank you for exonerating me admin. I'm not the only one who spotted Warwick Hunt as being a white knight for Amour

[greychap]

Thank you for exonerating me admin. I'm not the only one who spotted Warwick Hunt as being a white knight for Amour

Its funny isn't it when someone says they don't know Amour very well only maybe used them once but seem to want to have digs at me for being angry at threats and damage I have had caused.

There is many punters that have used them and had good bookings with the girls that work for them and I can understand a punter saying I have had good experiences with them but I have not pissed them off so would not know what they might do as I only know them as a friendly voice on the phone when taking my money.

But what I don't get when some want to go out of there way to stick up for them and attack me over being upset with what happened it just looks like there heavily involved with them on a personal level hence the reason to attack me.

[greychap]

Thank you for exonerating me admin. I'm not the only one who spotted Warwick Hunt as being a white knight for Amour

He obviously forgot what he previously wrote about seeing more girls from there but then after only said he has seen 1 girl from there only. It has showed him to be untrustworthy with what he writes.

[Toshiba]

He obviously forgot what he previously wrote about seeing more girls from there but then after only said he has seen 1 girl from there only. It has showed him to be untrustworthy with what he writes.

yep, i now don't trust him