Michelle Independent, London W8 + W14 - Amazing, but where the fuck was Allen?

[Dave2014]

Michelle is probably delighted such fuckwits won't be attempting to book her for CIM, Facials and all the other 'pursuits' you deem safer than protected sex.

Nice attempt to change the subject. I remind you of your words, admitted barebacker:

. . . so the post-chat fun began. Michelle knows how to take things slow … how to tease and play. Her bedroom skills are something else. . .

[Stealthshagger]

Nice job trying to smear Michelle. You really are quite a sad individual. No wonder you married a WG - who then left you. Tragic.

I have already written above precisely what occurred - in case you missed it: No penetrative sexual contact occurred between Michelle and I

You did this. Stop deflecting everything.

As an aside to you being a cunt, you should stop and think. It's not about pride.

Realise this:

Either all this is bullshit and you have mental problems, or you really did these things and you have mental problems and don't see them. Get a grip. I don't like you, but it is sincere advice that you have a long think about what you are doing. You are affecting a lot of people. Your home life isn't my business. Your spreading all sorts of stories here involving mental health, drugs, alcoholism, unprotected sex a few times, past lies you have been caught in...it is our business and the business of those you affect.

[west8]

Massage .. in a hotel bedroom.

You weren't there, so it might be better to drop the clown act, Mr QC.

[Dave2014]

Re-read the Lola Bell review. Then go back to pretending you have a Law Degree.

I am only interested in reading this one:

. . . so the post-chat fun began. Michelle knows how to take things slow … how to tease and play. Her bedroom skills are something else. . .

[west8]

I am only interested in reading this one:

Refer to the post directly above.

[Stealthshagger]

This site keeps us safer, and probably WGs too. And stops a lot of scams.  You using it as a tool for shit stirring is not on.

As for me being a misogynist, I call out scammers and am good to those who are honest. Feel free to ask admin, Nik or several wgs here. I am up front and for an honest punt. I do not treat women like shit, and I do try to help those I see to be in a bad way. I do not take advantage. 

Don't call me a misogynsit to cover your tracks out of pride or hubris. Rather have a look in the mirror and re-asses what's going on here.

[ampersand]

If ever I am offered BB by a WG, I will make sure never to bring it to the attention of this forum. Enjoy punting in glorious ignorance.

What, so you will carry on partaking in BB sex then???

[west8]

This site keeps us safer, and probably WGs too. And stops a lot of scams.  You using it as a tool for shit stirring is not on.

As for me being a misogynist, I call out scammers and am good to those who are honest. Feel free to ask admin, Nik or several wgs here. I am up front and for an honest punt. I do not treat women like shit, and I do try to help those I see to be in a bad way. I do not take advantage. 

Don't call me a misogynsit to cover your tracks out of pride or hubris. Rather have a look in the mirror and re-asses what's going on here.

The most interesting thing is that the girls I meet and spend time with are treated with great care and the utmost respect. I never - ever - push their boundaries.

That is reflected in my feedback on Adultwork. It's consistent, positive and complimentary.

Combined with my unlimited ability to punt as and when I wish, I believe the girls are correct: that is part of the reason there appears to be so much envy and vitriol directed toward my posts.

[west8]

What, so you will carry on partaking in BB sex then???

Don't be silly. Emphasis on 'offered'.

[Stealthshagger]

Your pattern of assuming it is envy is a microcosm of the issue here. Don't you see it isn't that? Either it's all of us, or it's just you.  What strikes you as likely? There is a pattern here. Do you notice how many have said they gave you a shot but you have just pushed them off the fence or gone full cunt?

[ampersand]

West8 is bringing the forum into disrepute by the rubbish that he is spouting.  He is maliciously damaging the reputations of repreputable girls, which cannot be in the interests of punters generally.  He is a proven liar and is clearly a troll.  He is not someone that we should tolerate within this community. 

[west8]

Your pattern of assuming it is envy is a microcosm of the issue here. Don't you see it isn't that? Either it's all of us, or it's just you.  What strikes you as likely? There is a pattern here. Do you notice how many have said they gave you a shot but you have just pushed them off the fence or gone full cunt?

No, it's not 'all' of anything. It's actually a tiny, microcosmic sized cadre of a few trolls who can't resist the urge to post in my reviews.

Far better to add me to your ignore list than continually strive to make a point on which we will never agree.

[Stealthshagger]

Not that it is of Importance, but you seem to assume a lot about other people's finances. It is a very odd interest to have.  My objections to you stand on their own. There is no way for you to guess about my finances or most other people here. So why leap to envy guesses? You do know that when you are with WGs they are paid to be nice to you and on your side for that time, right? Them agreeing with you and whatnot is just part of it. I can't imagine any of them are delighted to be associated with you.

[west8]

West8 is bringing the forum into disrepute by the rubbish that he is spouting.  He is maliciously damaging the reputations of repreputable girls, which cannot be in the interests of punters generally.  He is a proven liar and is clearly a troll.  He is not someone that we should tolerate within this community.

Re-read the review. We discussed the SexyPorsha review before a penny changed hands.

But nice try to paint me as an ogre.

[Stealthshagger]

No, it's not 'all' of anything. It's actually a tiny, microcosmic sized cadre of a few trolls who can't resist the urge to post in my reviews.

Far better to add me to your ignore list than continually strive to make a point on which we will never agree.

Well, despite your conduct and record, I tried to reason with you. I'm amazed you lasted this long, but I don't imagine you will be here much longer.

[west8]

I can't imagine any of them are delighted to be associated with you.

No WG is ever delighted to be associated with 99.9% of her punters. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check.

[ampersand]

Don't be silly. Emphasis on 'offered'.

You accepted it when it was offered once.  A punter as experienced as you claim to be must have learned how to avoid engaging in unprotected sex, so we must assume that it is something that you choose to do. How many other times have you done so? In that context therefore, we must assume that for every 'offer', there is likely be an acceptance.

[Stealthshagger]

Many are delighted by reviews from reviewers. Being reviewed by you is now like a kiss of death.

[ampersand]

Re-read the review. We discussed the SexyPorsha review before a penny changed hands.

But nice try to paint me as an ogre.

What has this got to do with my earlier comment.  Stop hiding behind the 're-read the review' bullshit.

[west8]

Many are delighted by reviews from reviewers. Being reviewed by you is now like a kiss of death.

We shall see. One key difference between me and a great many members here is that I make no attempt to disassociate myself from my Adultwork ID.

Indeed, it's even been posted on this very forum. But more importantly, I ask the girls I meet if they are happy if I write about my experiences.

Doing so often surprises them as they are used to anonymous individuals often besmirching their character and reputation.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I have nothing to hide. My posts over the past 24 hours should make that emphatically clear to all.

[fredpunter]

The most interesting thing is that the girls I meet and spend time with are treated with great care and the utmost respect. I never - ever - push their boundaries.

That is reflected in my feedback on Adultwork. It's consistent, positive and complimentary.

Combined with my unlimited ability to punt as and when I wish, I believe the girls are correct: that is part of the reason there appears to be so much envy and vitriol directed toward my posts.

I hate to see a witch hunt but several times you have suggested that all the girls think you are ok and that everyone else is unreasonable. I had a completely unsolicited message from a wg at 13.23 today that said simply "west 8 is a wanker". She went on to say things like "bang out of order" "disgusting" and "hidden agenda".

I have often enjoyed your posts and found them amusing but you do seem to be losing the plot.

I have heard from more than one source that you are wealthy, that you don't have to work, that you are intelligent and polite - but I think most importantly, you appear to be out of touch with the real world  - possibly as a direct result of being wealthy and not having to work.

[ampersand]

That is reflected in my feedback on Adultwork. It's consistent, positive and complimentary.

So tell us what your AW name is to enable us to prove it because I can't be bothered to go hunting for it.  Mind you, we all know how trustworthy AW feedback is!!

[west8]

1. West8 is bringing the forum into disrepute
2. He is maliciously damaging the reputations of repreputable girls
3. He is a proven liar
4. and is clearly a troll

1. By posting truthful and accurate accounts of actual punts.
2. Nonsense. I have posted facts - hence the fact a certain girl has chosen not to dispute what was written.
3. Examples please?
4. Wrote the guy trolling my review with off-topic nonsense.

Is that a more direct reply, to your liking?

[west8]

So tell us what your AW name is to enable us to prove it.  Mind you, we all know how trustworthy AW feedback is!!

Sure. Could you please post yours first and I will gladly follow your example. Thanks ...

[west8]

I hate to see a witch hunt but several times you have suggested that all the girls think you are ok and that everyone else is unreasonable. I had a completely unsolicited message from a wg at 13.23 today that said simply "west 8 is a wanker". She went on to say things like "bang out of order" "disgusting" and "hidden agenda".

I have often enjoyed your posts and found them amusing but you do seem to be losing the plot.

I have heard from more than one source that you are wealthy, that you don't have to work, that you are intelligent and polite - but I think most importantly, you appear to be out of touch with the real world  - possibly as a direct result of being wealthy and not having to work.

A WG that I have met, Fred? No, I thought not.

[fredpunter]

A WG that I have met, Fred? No, I thought not.

do you really want me to answer that? I'll ponder whether I should over-night.

[ampersand]

Sure. Could you please post yours first and I will gladly follow your example. Thanks ...

I am not the one proclaiming that I have good feedback.   Now stop misquoting me and accusing me of trolling.   You are a disgrace - for various reasons - and should  be banned.

[west8]

do you really want me to answer that? I'll ponder whether I should over-night.

Yes, please do - with the permission of the WG in question, of course.

Let's see who decides to refuse any further bookings from me.

[west8]

I am not the one proclaiming that I have good feedback.   Now stop misquoting me and accusing me of trolling.   You are a disgrace - for various reasons - and should  be banned.

My AW nick has been posted on this forum before - do a search or check my reviews.

Nothing to hide here and any girl who would like to add me to their banned list is welcome to PM for my Adultwork ID.

[CatBBW]

PARKLIFE!

 

[CatBBW]

You should have know better when you read about a woman of my reputation guys. Dissapointed... Michelle out.

Run that one by us again, Michelle...? You have a good reputation on here and West8 (with his recent bad reputation on here) had a booking with you, and....

What?

What's the point of your post? Genuinely confused here...

[lewishamguy]

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[CatBBW]

Fantastic job jumping to conclusions Sarah. Sexual contact did take place - but not penetrative.

As you probably fuck half a dozen guys every day, you are a far greater risk to public health than I could ever be. But don't let the facts obscure the bullshit.

Woah! Nice prozzie hatred, luv! Specially as YOU are the Barebacker of druggie alcoholics!

Fucking 100 people with protection is statistically safer than fucking 1 person without...but don't let the facts obscure the bullshit....eh!

[CatBBW]

Realise this:

Either all this is bullshit and you have mental problems, or you really did these things and you have mental problems and don't see them. Get a grip. I don't like you, but it is sincere advice that you have a long think about what you are doing. You are affecting a lot of people. Your home life isn't my business. Your spreading all sorts of stories here involving mental health, drugs, alcoholism, unprotected sex a few times, past lies you have been caught in...it is our business and the business of those you affect.

Where's the applause emoticon??! This will have to do... 

Good post, Stealthshagger.

[MancSean]

I am sure Blackstone Chambers will be delighted to hear that a jumper up flash scumbag has been quoting them on a punting forum. What a complete and utter arse wipe.
Whether the shite this tosser spouts off is true or not it is just putrid. What a nasty cunt. I actually hope the next time you do need a solicitor it's coz your wife is suing your pathetic ass off in divorce court you complete sick saddo

[Vivago]

Westy, you are an incorrigible wind-up merchant. Can't believe that you still can get away with it. You dangle your juicy worm and the same old fishy characters paddle up and fight each other to suck on it (sorry for the suggestive metaphor ). Do you get off on it?

However, there is something vaguely ridiculous and redolent of hypocrisy when a bunch of whoremongers (to use the grittier Yank term) take the high moral ground against one of their own so I won't join in with the universal and probably well deserved approbation except to say 'what an absolute twat'.

[Matium]

Blackstone Chambers have a very impressive set of barristers.

However, I am sure that even if West8'S REAL IDENTITY WAS REVEALED, NONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY EVER HEARD OF HIM.

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[Tony Montana]

I reckon it is this kind of thread that would make a girl think... "I really don't need this shit in my life" and give up escorting to get a "proper" job 

[Michelle Independent]

I reckon it is this kind of thread that would make a girl think... "I really don't need this shit in my life" and give up escorting to get a "proper" job 

Spot on.

[west8]

Westy, you are an incorrigible wind-up merchant. Can't believe that you still can get away with it. You dangle your juicy worm and the same old fishy characters paddle up and fight each other to suck on it (sorry for the suggestive metaphor ). Do you get off on it?

However, there is something vaguely ridiculous and redolent of hypocrisy when a bunch of whoremongers (to use the grittier Yank term) take the high moral ground against one of their own so I won't join in with the universal and probably well deserved approbation except to say 'what an absolute twat'.

Best post of the thread.

The hypocrisy of a certain tiny minority is indeed staggering. Thread after thread, the same dozen or so individuals post in the vain attempt to 'win'. Far easier for them to use the Ignore List.

The way these same individuals turned on Michelle the moment they scented blood is absolutely disgusting and makes me think there is a hidden agenda.

For that reason, the other much-loved WG I am meeting today will not be reviewed. So, well done to the vocal minority who seem to wish to dictate forum content.

[Lilywhite]

Or, to put it more simply, which activity poses the greater risk of contracting an STD:

1. Random punter and WG indulging in CIM, DFK, Facials, Rimming?

or

2. Random punter and WG indulging in covered penetrative sex?

Did you DFK with Michelle West8?

[west8]

Did you DFK with Michelle West8?

Lilywhite, I have said all I am going to say on the topic of my interaction with Michelle. Blame the usual suspects for that.

[Sedlmayer]

The hypocrisy of a certain tiny minority is indeed staggering. Thread after thread, the same dozen or so individuals post in the vain attempt to 'win'. Far easier for them to use the Ignore List.

"Hypocrisy"
 Vivago thinks that because we pay for sex, we forfeit the moral right to comment when someone (you, in this instance) goes completely out of control, smearing reputations along the way. He sees that as us being hypocrites. I personally don't agree, but I understand his reasoning.

Yesterday, after you accused me of being the biggest hypocrite on this forum, I asked you for examples of my hypocrisy.
You deflected the comment as you always do, and provided no example.
Please explain why I and the "tiny minority" to which you refer are guilty of hypocrisy.

No more deflection - just answer the question. With, perhaps, some concrete examples, not just assertions.

[west8]

"Hypocrisy"
 Vivago thinks that because we pay for sex, we forfeit the moral right to comment when someone (you, in this instance) goes completely out of control, smearing reputations along the way. He sees that as us being hypocrites. I personally don't agree, but I understand his reasoning.

Yesterday, after you accused me of being the biggest hypocrite on this forum, I asked you for examples of my hypocrisy.
You deflected the comment as you always do, and provided no example.
Please explain why I and the "tiny minority" to which you refer are guilty of hypocrisy.

No more deflection - just answer the question. With, perhaps, some concrete examples, not just assertions.

You, among others, prefer to visit more 'open-minded' WGs. The type of ladies who provide a more 'exotic' range of services which usually involve the exchange of bodily fluids.

Then you probably wait a month or more between your STI tests. Probably MUCH longer than a month or more.

I have unprotected sex with a WG who is tested EVERY SINGLE WEEK - as am I - and I am the threat to WG and public health.

We both know you are not really stupid enough to believe that is the case. So stop using it to try and ruin the reputation of all and any WG I subsequently wish to meet.

[Sedlmayer]

You, among others, prefer to visit more 'open-minded' WGs. The type of ladies who provide a more 'exotic' range of services which usually involve the exchange of bodily fluids.

Then you probably wait a month or more between your STI tests. Probably MUCH longer than a month or more.

I have unprotected sex with a WG who is tested EVERY SINGLE WEEK - as am I - and I am the threat to WG and public health.

We both know you are not really stupid enough to believe that is the case. So stop using it to try and ruin the reputation of all and any WG I subsequently wish to meet.

Please name the prostitutes to which you refer, first of all, otherwise your comment is meaningless.

Secondly, I am still waiting for an example of my hypocrisy.

Thirdly, I love the way that now it's me who is ruining people's reputations!
Let's think - a falling out with Cindy re booking, a negative regarding a 3some in Aldgate re time of booking, complete character assassination of a prostitute with allegations of drug addiction, alcoholism and barebacking, and now the review of Michelle after your confessed triple barebacking. You accusing me of ruining reputations - now there's hypocrisy for you!

[finn5555]

It's abundently clear dear old West8 is a fantasist and possibly a loner (ok I'm being fluffy he is a cunt  ) other than this thread I long ago gave up reading his bullshit 

[west8]

Please name the prostitutes to which you refer, first of all, otherwise your comment is meaningless.

Secondly, I am still waiting for an example of my hypocrisy.

Thirdly, I love the way that now it's me who is ruining people's reputations!
Let's think - a falling out with Cindy re booking, a negative regarding a 3some in Aldgate re time of booking, complete character assassination of a prostitute with allegations of drug addiction, alcoholism and barebacking, and now the review of Michelle after your confessed triple barebacking. You accusing me of ruining reputations - now there's hypocrisy for you!

Name the WG? Hint: title of this thread.

The way that a few members like yourself and puntico have seized on the bizarre and ill-informed notion that Michelle - or any subsequent WG I meet - is potentially a risk to her future clients is utter tripe and beneath contempt - as other members have rightly pointed out.

Moreover, I have no outstanding issues / disagreements with ANY WG - including those you refer to above. That was all settled many, many weeks ago and is ancient history in punterland.

Cindy, Dee, Michelle, Lucy etc - all great girls with whom I have no issues - and they have no issues with me.

No member of this forum can state categorically that indulging in services such as CIM, DFK, OWO, Facials, Rimming etc is safer than PROTECTED penetrative sex with a WG - ANY WG.

Because it jolly well is not ...

[Sedlmayer]

Name the WG? Hint: title of this thread.

The way that a few members like yourself and puntico have seized on the bizarre and ill-informed notion that Michelle - or any subsequent WG I meet - is potentially a risk to her future clients is utter tripe and beneath contempt - as other members have rightly pointed out.

Moreover, I have no outstanding issues / disagreements with ANY WG - including those you refer to above. That was all settled many, many weeks ago and is ancient history in punterland.

Cindy, Dee, Michelle, Lucy etc - all great girls with whom I have no issues - and they have no issues with me.

No member of this forum can state categorically that indulging in services such as CIM, DFK, OWO, Facials, Rimming etc is safer than PROTECTED penetrative sex with a WG - ANY WG.

Because it jolly well is not ...

I asked you two specific questions - are you going to answer them or not?

[west8]

I just did.

1. Michelle - and any girl you suppose I might meet in the near future.
2. This thread.

[Sedlmayer]

Name the WG? Hint: title of this thread.   

No - these " 'open-minded' WGs. The type of ladies who provide a more 'exotic' range of services which usually involve the exchange of bodily fluids." Who are we talking about here exactly?