Adele4u - London

[Quesadilla]

i.) It has already been established that the booking was accepted;
ii.) If deleting Ben's emails did not constitute a cancellation, I don't know what would have done;
iii.) Ben didn't change his mind. He waited for confirmation but his email was deleted;
iv.) Would you be confident the booking was agreed if the girl went AWOL and deleted your email?

As I said earlier not the best comms in the world but Ben knew she was away and had a choice - either assume the worst or assume the original agreement still stands.  He made his choice. Personally if I wanted to see Adele - knowing how popular she is - I would have waited til she was back.  Have done similar with other WG's.  I would have had my plan b ready and lined up so zero need to panic whatsoever.

As others have pointed out, Ben was 100% in the right to go against the grain. We all know there is a cadre of ladies who can apparently do no wrong in the eyes of some members.

I've only seen Adele once - had a good punt but no fanboy here. I just would have done things differently with any WG I wanted to see.

You know what, fuck that.

Moreover, this is not akin to my Review of Cindy for one key reason: although I didn't know it, Cindy never marked my AW booking as 'confirmed'.

Ben is saying that he had written confirmation via - I assume - AW email - but did not actually get his AW booking 'confirmed'. So it's similar to your PC fiasco West - and I just want to make sure we're applying the rule consistently. 

Either he jumped the gun in assuming the meet was confirmed despite having no AW confirmation - in which case as with your review of PC - he should not have created this review in the first place. 

Or the email confirmation via AW was solid enough in which case - given that he knew she was away he had to make a call as to whether to trust the emails he'd already had and hope for the best, or to just assume the worst and effectively cancel Adele.  He chose the latter.  Not saying he was in the wrong in making the call he did - the deleted e-mail would certainly worry me too - but I would personally not have posted a review until after I'd heard categorically from Adele or until after the date/time of the booking had passed with still no comms. 

[west8]

As I said earlier not the best comms in the world but Ben knew she was away and had a choice - either assume the worst or assume the original agreement still stands.  He made his choice.

How was Ben supposed to have known she away? Moreover, away without access to email? I doubt that. I bet if a booking for a week in Paris had dropped into her inbox from HD or similar, said email would not have been deleted. Moreover, the fact that's Ben email was binned and then he miraculously gets a reply the moment this review pops up is a good thing. Many girls are at pains to deny the influence this forum has. Others slate it as being full of degenerates. That's only because of the influence we collectively wield.

As Ben wrote: 'Booking request verbally accepted but not accepted via Adultwork booking procedures'.

For the record: I didn't mean you when I referred to Adele's cadre of fluffies. I think we all know who they are.

[Quesadilla]

It was on Adele's profile that she was going to be away til 11th.

We'll now never know if Ben's booking would have been forgotten or not without this review which is another reason I would have lined up plan b and then waited to see what happened.

Wouldn't have hurt to wait and then the negative review would have been fully justified.

[west8]

It was on Adele's profile that she was going to be away til 11th.

We'll now never know if Ben's booking would have been forgotten or not without this review which is another reason I would have lined up plan b and then waited to see what happened.

Wouldn't have hurt to wait and then the negative review would have been fully justified.

An auto-responder is used by many girls when they are travelling. Unless Ben had actually checked her page, he could not have known she was away. Moreover, it wasn't Ben's responsibility to keep track of Adele's travel plans.

He simply wanted a shag. Hence his justified decision to move on and arrange a Plan B - which he has decided to stick to.

Furthermore, as mentioned above, what does 'away' really mean in 2015? Away from an internet connection or at the very least email access. I doubt that.

[Sedlmayer]

It seems to me that the solution to these knotty problems is to ignore the AW booking system altogether and only book via phone and/or text.

The girls who insist on AW bookings would soon change their tune if we all just did that.

[Old monk]

Ben

Did you or did you not speak to her on the phone, I am intrigued how you got a verbal acceptance to your booking request when she was in Rome? Yet she never acknowledged your AW email booking.

On her profile she clearly states email first then Booking request. She does not display a phone number so Im trying to understand what you mean by a verbal response.

[Ben4454]

It was on Adele's profile that she was going to be away til 11th.

We'll now never know if Ben's booking would have been forgotten or not without this review which is another reason I would have lined up plan b and then waited to see what happened.

Wouldn't have hurt to wait and then the negative review would have been fully justified.

Just to remind everyone about what actually happened

- I sent Adele an E-mail enquiring before the 11th. If Adele had ignored and deleted my E-mail at that moment then there would have been no issue. If she also did not respond there would have been no issue since she says she was on a holiday till the 11th.

- When Adele responded to the E-mail and logged in everyday - one can assume she is still handling the administration side of the business - so after she responded with what seemed like a bubbly and happy response - one can assume she is still handling comms.

- Adele responded to my original E-mail accepting the booking. The rules here clearly state that a booking has to be accepted before a review can be made. This does not mean the review has to be Adultwork booking system. It simply means a verbal acceptance or a promise is allowed. Confirmed by the rule book and admin before submitting this review.

After the happy and polite response I confirmed with a E-mail back and that was that. I then saw the e-mail was then read and deleted.   

I assumed this must have been a mistake on Adeles part since she gets many E-mails and her still being on holiday.

So I E-mailed Again  - E-mail was then read and deleted once again.

On my part - it is safe to assume after 2 x attempts that Adele cancelled the booking and seized communication with me.

Yet funnily enough - responded a few hours after this review was submitted. It is quite apparent that she would have not responded if it wasn't for me writing a review.

Which prossie do you know who reads and deletes your e-mails without response yet still upholds to a booking made ?

[Old monk]

Adele responded within 3 days with what seemed like a happy and bubbily attitude asking what time I would like on the specific date. I put her delayed response despite her logging in everyday down to the high volume of E-mails she gets. This is not an acceptance, this a question

There is a bit of the chain missing here, i.e. the acceptance email. This is not a VERBAL acceptance

After the time and date were agreed I decided to send Adele an E-mail explaining what I would like to happen in the punt. Something quite vanilla and a ordinary roleplay. Comms took longer than I expected and after waiting another 3 days (despite her logging in) and not responding - decided to just shoot a booking request off to Adele to at least prove my seriousness in the punt.

One day later my E-mail was then read and deleted. Thinking this may have been a mistake on her part -  I sent Adele a E-mail asking confirmation about our booking since the booking request had still been submitted on the grounds of our previous communications. Another 3 days passed and I was getting quite annoyed that she agreed on the booking yet seemed to seize all communication with me.

Ben please post the email that you received from Adele stating she was accepting your booking, I think that would clear up all the confusion.

[Ben4454]

The response was:

hi (insert adultwork name)  : )
''yes we can meet at XXXX  (date) on XX XX (hour) how long plan to see me?
confirmed

I then sent another email detailing what i would like to happen in the punt and length.
Also I furthered communication since I figured in the next e-mail i'd get a number
and I said to her i prefer to call beforehand for basic security reasons.

Email was deleted.

[LL]

The response was:

hi (insert adultwork name)  : )
''yes we can meet at XXXX  (date) on XX XX (hour) how long plan to see me?
confirmed
I then sent another email detailing what i would like to happen in the punt and length.

At the risk of having some bloke called puntico throwing his toys out of his pram again. May I ask what you wrote regarding what you would like to happen in the punt?

[unclesweetheart]

Technical query, be grateful if anyone could help. How can you tell if an email to a girl on AW has been read and deleted?

[Bigus Dickus]

Ben,

My understanding was she agreed a booking and then read your two subsequent emails before deleting them. Unless I am missing something I don't see how that would equate to her cancelling your booking. I have never booked her via aw. I normally send her a message asking when she is free. If she can accommodate I send her another confirming a certain date. She then replies saying that we're good to go.

If I have a further requests such as dress I send her another one. I don't normally expect a reply unless I ask her a question. On the evening before the punt I normally send her a message asking if there are any problems for our booking. My next communication is normally a text saying I am outside and ready when she is.

Her messages can be very short and sweet but I understand that due to her getting a massive amount of messages.

When was your punt date? I get the impression you decided she wasn't going ahead as she read but didn't reply to your two emails but she may well have intended to meet you?

[d00fer]

Technical query, be grateful if anyone could help. How can you tell if an email to a girl on AW has been read and deleted?

If you go in to your sent emails and look at the 'Date Read' column, if it's in italics it's been deleted and will say so if you hover your cursor over it. I only worked it out after this thread.

[unclesweetheart]

If you go in to your sent emails and look at the 'Date Read' column, if it's in italics it's been deleted and will say so if you hover your cursor over it. I only worked it out after this thread.

Cheers   

[Ben4454]

Its funny how in past reviews of mine these issues came up yet no need for further investigations were needed.

[Bigus Dickus]

Its funny how in past reviews of mine these issues came up yet no need for further investigations were needed.

There's no investigation but it's worth knowing if there's problems booking a girl or it might be down to a misunderstanding. It's hard to assess this if the full picture isn't clear. It's not as clear cut as if you turned up and she ignored you. It's not unknown for people getting the wrong end of the stick sometimes on here. Ask West8 two of his negatives were down to that. The date of your planned punt relative to Adele's absence from the UK and when she contacted you on her return is important so I can make my own decision on future bookings. I don't know why you are so resistant on revealing the date?

[Old monk]

Thank you for posting the details Ben, though now you have mentioned it I note that not one of your reviews of girls on AW have been other than Negative.

I have no axe to grind, I have only seen Adele once and that was because I wanted a duo with Cindy and she suggested her. My issue is with the vagueness and use of the word VERBAL which was very misleading.
If she accepted your booking, then she is in the wrong.

[UberX]

Its funny how in past reviews of mine these issues came up yet no need for further investigations were needed.

My friend you see Adele got 31 reviews in this forum and only 1 negative review. Since joining this forum I have realized that she has huge fans in this forum. So the main thing is that it is very hard for Adele's fan club to believe why she got a negative review now? obviously they are over reacted so further investigation is questioning to you. Anyway I did not see her at all so cannot comment about her booking process 

[Expl1cit]

The response was:

hi (insert adultwork name)  : )
''yes we can meet at XXXX  (date) on XX XX (hour) how long plan to see me?
confirmed

I then sent another email detailing what i would like to happen in the punt and length.
Also I furthered communication since I figured in the next e-mail i'd get a number
and I said to her i prefer to call beforehand for basic security reasons.

Email was deleted.

So you've just clarified that you didn't get a confirmation of the booking 

'We can meet on x day at x time is not a confirmation in my book when its then followed up with a question of how long you wanted to stay.  You then say you subsequently sent another email detailing what you would like to happen.

If you got the ok after this, and confirmation that the length you wanted to stay was fine, then its a confirmed booking.

You were still in the negotiating phase of a booking.

I think others in this thread have touched upon a variety of reasons why its not a valid negative, some are Adele supporters, some dont like to see the forum clogged up with pointless crap like this thread.  She is well reviewed here, all positive and half of your reviews are negatives.

If you saw her and you didn't enjoy the punt, by all means leave a negative, but because she deleted your e-mail before a booking was confirmed, is no reason to leave a negative.  This thread will soon disappear nd we can read some useful stuff.

[Dave2014]

At the risk of having some bloke called puntico throwing his toys out of his pram again. May I ask what you wrote regarding what you would like to happen in the punt?

 

[OldAdmin]

So you've just clarified that you didn't get a confirmation of the booking 

I note from nearly all your posts that you troll anyone who leaves a review that you disagree with and calling them liars.

[Goofy85]

How has a thread about this subject reached three pages? What I get from it is that Adele clearly has a lot of punters that want to defend her honour. Let it go, guys. It's going round in circles.

[Expl1cit]

I note from nearly all your posts that you troll anyone who leaves a review that you disagree with and calling them liars.

Admin, I don't believe that to be true.

I find this forum a valuable place, mainly for reading reviews before I punt, and I just find that on a couple of occasions where I have commented on negatives that I (along with several others on those threads agree with) do not really constitute negative feedback.

It makes it difficult for us to really judge if someone is worth seeing, if negatives are based on non existing meetings or in hte other case, a punter who only has negative experiences.

If this is considered 'trolling' I can bite my tounge until I've had some of my own reviews to be judged against.

[Meursault]

That's the way she manages her bookings.

Cheers. That's fine by me. Adele was upbeat, polite and friendly in her emails and only death or severe illness will prevent me from following her straight forward request.
I guess I would only post negative if I try to firm up the booking, as asked, and then get completely ignored.
My gut instinct is, due to her manner, that it is unlikely that scenario will play out.
 

[d00fer]

I wasn't sure whether to post here or in my previous review thread.

I emailed Adele while she was away, got a reply yesterday, and saw her today. And to a previous question, before this thread came up I had no idea you could see if an email you'd sent had been deleted. I had a look and I've got one coming up where the emails have already been deleted, should I panic and cancel or just not be paranoid about it?

[Bigus Dickus]

How has a thread about this subject reached three pages? What I get from it is that Adele clearly has a lot of punters that want to defend her honour. Let it go, guys. It's going round in circles.

I don't think anyone's defending anyone's honour. I am just trying to clarify what happened. That's the thing about this forum that helps punters make informed choices about booking someone. You get to ask an OP questions about their reviews. Normally you get a frank response to questions which is what I'd expect not paranoid accusations of a Spanish Inquisition!   

 

[Goofy85]

I don't think anyone's defending anyone's honour. I am just trying to clarify what happened. That's the thing about this forum that helps punters make informed choices about booking someone. You get to ask an OP questions about their reviews. Normally you get a frank response to questions which is what I'd expect not paranoid accusations of a Spanish Inquisition!   

My main point is that it has been a bit of a Spanish Inquisition. And not going anywhere. Although I suppose other readers here will wonder what I'm doing positing here, so I'll leave. 

[Hornydevil247]

I have never had an issue in booking Adele.

Send her a text "when can I see you or let me know if anyone cancels" Adele replies I'm free on such and such date and I send a booking through or she sends me a text that someone has cancelled.

It is too much to expect she deleted the email in error, such things do happen. I am sure we have  deleted emails and texts in error at some point in our lives.

Saw Ameera when she got back from her break and she told me she had over 300 emails in her inbox.

HD

[Bigus Dickus]

I have never had an issue in booking Adele.

Send her a text "when can I see you or let me know if anyone cancels" Adele replies I'm free on such and such date and I send a booking through or she sends me a text that someone has cancelled.

It is too much to expect she deleted the email in error, such things do happen. I am sure we have  deleted emails and texts in error at some point in our lives.

Saw Ameera when she got back from her break and she told me she had over 300 emails in her inbox.

HD

I am curious about the dates because she obviously read the emails and then deleted them. Is it possible that the OP just assumed that deleting the emails meant she no longer was willing to see him when she may well have got in touch with him just before the punt date? I messaged a girl quite a while ago about a date next month and she said she would like to meet. She too has been away for the holiday period and I sent a chaser email but despite the fact she has logged on in the last few days, she's not replied. As the proposed date is a while away I am not going to assume she has changed her mind or won't see me. So Ben assist my OCD like requirement for the facts and help me out with the timeline of events? 

[OldAdmin]

So Ben assist my OCD like requirement for the facts and help me out with the timeline of events? 

You're obviously also trolling his review on behalf of your favourite prossie.

No more posts about Adele4u from you.

[Sir Knumbskull]

I am the fluffiest of all fluffies, I had previously seen Adele4u SEVERAL times without booking problems and rarely having to put anything in AW.

However I am not sure how this thread has got to 4 pages?

TLDR
Adele could seriously improve on her comms for an agreed booking upon returning or before returning to Blighty, Ben could have followed-up a bit more via phone, but should not be expected to jump through extra hoops after a meeting agreement and is fully entitled to feel mucked around and should not be shouted at


What happened?

Ben posts about confusion in comms and confusion about the status of an agreed booking between himself and a service provider. Meet does not go ahead.


- The original e-mail was read but not responded to after THREE days, with the profile stating the service provider was not available or will not return from abroad until after the 11th. This to me personally would suggest Adele was not interested in a booking from this person at the time requested, no harm done, onto the next one...

- Adele responds well after the message was sent and accepts a booking via reply of e-mail, and is shown to have logged in everyday on days before her posted return date on her profile, Ben has no reason to disbelieve the punt would not go ahead as the provider had responded saying it was fine for agreed date and time.

- A further e-mail was sent by Ben and read and deleted after a further THREE days, and an 'official' booking request on AW a day later to show serious intent, now to my mind, for an accepted booking (and personally I take 'accepted' to mean 'as agreed by whatever format between 2 people and not necessarily an AW booking form', the provider would usually (maybe in just my experience?), respond and ensure that all that was requested \ asked was happily agreed to or negotiated, in order to ensure a satisfactory booking and agreement of the conditions of the meet. Ben has the right to feel a bit confused and concerned about the status of his agreed booking due to lack of response for a long time and wonder if he is being mucked around.

- Ben sends some further e-mails to confirm with the service provider that he had submitted an 'official AW booking', and to confirm that their previous agreement still stood. No further response at all from the service provider...

Personally, if that had been the level of response I had had from Adele, I would of assumed the same as Ben and thought I was being mucked around, and taken my wallet elsewhere. EVEN after having seen her several times previously.




Now the lessons we can learn from this, is that:

- Adele4u may have so many e-mails in her absence that she is unable or unwilling to respond in her 'normal' manner, that is, politely and efficiently, and to every e-mail (which I am sure that those that have seen her can say is the 'usual' response level). Put this on-top of her returning from abroad, and she may have been rushed, or tried to be 'efficient' with e-mails, or simply got confused between requests.

- Ben (I'm not 100% sure if a phone call from Ben to Adele been established), could have called to double-check, or indeed, decided that was a hoop he couldn't be bothered to go through considering he had sent respectful follow-up e-mails to his confirmed booking, and a complete lack of response to his follow-ups, had his e-mails deleted, and not seen \ dealt the service provider before. I would consider this perfectly reasonable and would also have moved on.

Additionally, again, if I had not seen Adele before, would feel obligated to leave a negative review as I would have felt I had been mucked about, and would like to inform my fellow punting brethren of either the poor level of communication and being mucked around, or at the very least the difficulty in getting hold of her at the moment, personally I am grateful for the review as it is, and would also agree it is a negative.



So as per the TL;DR, Adele has much room for improvement in her comms when coming back into the country with a backlog of e-mails, and Ben could have put a bit more effort in and called, but was well within his rights and expectations to expect responses to his follow-up e-mails after a confirmed booking.


RESULT

Negative review, Service Provider needs to up their game in communications with customers after coming back from abroad; in-line with their usual impeccable level of communications and general service, I am sure many of us would agree that Adele may well modify her communications accordingly but YMMV. Ben has full-rights to feel mucked around, I would too! Despite the fact I've seen Adele several times without the need for AW booking form at all and just the usual text the day before or even just a few hours before the meet.

That being said, I think Adele4u is one of the top girls in London, and you will be doing yourself a disservice by not seeing her at all!

Happy Punting! 

[d00fer]

I've a booking coming up that has been agreed (time, place, duration) via AW email with a, unreviewed on here, WG, but she's read and deleted my last email without replying to my question and has logged in since.

I also have a few more with different WG's where again the booking has been confirmed by AW email, and they have read but not deleted my last email and haven't responded to the questions in my last email and again have logged on since.

Should I cancel any of these bookings and write a negative review on here?

[OldAdmin]

I've a booking coming up that has been agreed (time, place, duration) via AW email with a, unreviewed on here, WG, but she's read and deleted my last email without replying to my question and has logged in since.

I also have a few more with different WG's where again the booking has been confirmed by AW email, and they have read but not deleted my last email and haven't responded to the questions in my last email and again have logged on since.

Should I cancel any of these bookings and write a negative review on here?

Yes if you wish.

[d00fer]

Thanks, nice to know.

[marty_mcfly]

Perhaps a lot of punters don't realise that communication is a vital part of a punt, even though it doesn't form part of the actual punt.

I find nothing worse than escorts reading my messages and then not replying or making me wait and wait for an eventual reply of two words.

OK, such ladies are very busy and they receive loads and loads of messages, but then they should spend more time answering them or cut down on their business. As a last resort, if they are in so much demand that they are flooded with messages and cannot cope, then increase their rates, although from my point of view that would be cruel.

Sorry to say that this lady, no matter how good her service is, is now out of my hot list.

[BeesKnees]

Sorry to bring this back to the top of the board, but marty has completely nailed it.

How many times do we read "good comms" or "great English" in positive reviews? So what happens when we get poor comms? A negative review!

The fluffies forget that this is a wg's business, it's how they make money. Communication is still part of the business.

Sorry to name another wg on this review, but I almost walked on Maggie21 when she didn't pick up her phone 5mins before I was about to see her. She didn't call me back or txt til 10mins after the time we were supposed to meet. Her services are normally excellent, but the bad comms at the beginning pissed me off so it was a rather, "I'll go through the motions as I've already booked a session". That was a long long time ago but that hasn't changed how popular she is!

[west8]

The fluffies forget that this is a wg's business, it's how they make money. Communication is still part of the business.

Precisely. The cheerleading on this board occassionally becomes quite nauseating at times.

By all means, fawn and fluff in reviews (I certainly fucking do). Usually but not exclusively due to the post-punt high. But to jump on a thread and defend a WG who clearly fucked up is against the very ethos of this forum and should be discouraged in the strongest possible terms.

[marty_mcfly]

Sorry to bring this back to the top of the board, but marty has completely nailed it.

How many times do we read "good comms" or "great English" in positive reviews? So what happens when we get poor comms? A negative review!

The fluffies forget that this is a wg's business, it's how they make money. Communication is still part of the business.

Sorry to name another wg on this review, but I almost walked on Maggie21 when she didn't pick up her phone 5mins before I was about to see her. She didn't call me back or txt til 10mins after the time we were supposed to meet. Her services are normally excellent, but the bad comms at the beginning pissed me off so it was a rather, "I'll go through the motions as I've already booked a session". That was a long long time ago but that hasn't changed how popular she is!

Doobie, for me what is more important is communication prior to the day of the punt than on the day itself. It allows me to plan ahead and remove uncertainty.

Only today did a lady that I wanted to see so badly reply to my message. She read my first message as well as my polite reminder but replied only now when I gave up on her and booked someone else. Now I have cancelled that second booking, and risk being welcomed by the girl I have let down.

If a girl has the time to log in to AW and read your message then surely it can't be that difficult to send a quick reply such as "I am very busy now, will get back to you shortly" or if she is not interested, then "sorry hun, I'd rather not see you". How frustrating it is for the punter to have to log in frequently again and again onto AW only to see that there is no message.

[tbrad]

4 pages about a failed booking attempt with a hooker? you guys need to get out more 

[Sedlmayer]

4 pages about a failed booking attempt with a hooker? you guys need to get out more 

Yup    to that. This thread is the most "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" shit I've ever read. Way run it's course IMHO.