"I love you" - when to be concerned?

[LLPunting]

As much as I prefer GFE I haven't heard this in a long time in a paid session, especially without an EE or Russian accent, until recently and not much over the years.

One reg suddenly started saying this repeatedly throughout a session she engaged in particularly passionately and putting her starfish on the menu, also sent me an ILU message after.

For those that have heard these words from an SP when were or weren't you taken aback and (later) considered if you needed to do something about it?

[Jonestown]

Do both of you a favour, head for the hills.

[mancsguy1975]

I suspect she may be after your LLPcashmoney, like the first reply said, at best get an ego trip out of it, and run like Usain Bolt in the opposite direction

[MLawro93]

As much as I prefer GFE I haven't heard this in a long time in a paid session, especially without an EE or Russian accent, until recently and not much over the years.

One reg suddenly started saying this repeatedly throughout a session she engaged in particularly passionately and putting her starfish on the menu, also sent me an ILU message after.

For those that have heard these words from an SP when were or weren't you taken aback and (later) considered if you needed to do something about it?

You need to do something immediately every single time. Speaking from personal experience, I had a SP profess her love for me and only recently has she stopped trying to contact me. Even after blocking her and everything, she would not leave me alone. No matter how many times I spelled it out to her. It was just constant harassment until finally it stopped, which was recently.

If the feeling is mutual, great. If it isn't, end it, and then run for the hills (plus document everything)!

[Punting2022]

Say it back. Get some good timea like dates extra time in favour.
Then ovs fall out of love.

[LLPunting]

Do both of you a favour, head for the hills.

I suspect she may be after your LLPcashmoney, like the first reply said, at best get an ego trip out of it, and run like Usain Bolt in the opposite direction

It's ok, she's since suggested a 3-way with her friend and fellow SP I also know biblically so the frame has been reset, at least until I hear her friend will drop her usual price.

[LLPunting]

Say it back. Get some good timea like dates extra time in favour.
Then ovs fall out of love.

One of the few lies I'd never tell a woman, whether she be civvie or SP.

[Colston36]

How sane is she? This happened to me when I was young and good looking. The lady in question turned out to be pathologically jealous and could easily have stabbed me to death if I hadn't been wearing a suede coat. I swapped her for a very young Polish girl who gave me my only dose. I forgave her when my doctor told me girls could have it without knowing. I should have stayed with her; she would have saved me a very expensive divorce.

[LLPunting]

You need to do something immediately every single time. Speaking from personal experience, I had a SP profess her love for me and only recently has she stopped trying to contact me. Even after blocking her and everything, she would not leave me alone. No matter how many times I spelled it out to her. It was just constant harassment until finally it stopped, which was recently.

If the feeling is mutual, great. If it isn't, end it, and then run for the hills (plus document everything)!

No harassment received but will watch out for further behaviour.  Telling me not to pay will be the big moment to pause and have a serious conversation.  Not averse but have no idea how many other "lovers"  might be involved!

[LLPunting]

How sane is she? This happened to me when I was young and good looking. The lady in question turned out to be pathologically jealous and could easily have stabbed me to death if I hadn't been wearing a suede coat. I swapped her for a very young Polish girl who gave me my only dose. I forgave her when my doctor told me girls could have it without knowing. I should have stayed with her; she would have saved me a very expensive divorce.

Seems sane and has a seemingly strong support group here in the UK so it's not cos she's all alone.
Civvies have been the worst for STIs for me, yup there are a few that a girl might not realise she has and that makes for really contested news when I'm the one reporting showing symptoms.   SPs I've gone off book with have been far more calm and sanguine about it.

[Thephoenix]

Never happened to me although I've had quite a few marriage proposals from Thai ladies.

[simon07]

You must be a Hansum man 

[LLPunting]

You must be a Hansum man 

That was what the Chinese ex said, though she more often said "Ah! Big cock!" Thinking back on it she was probably slagging me off, spent far too much time playing Candy Crush in prone bone then she left in a huff when I wouldn't pay her Mah Jong debts..

[LLPunting]

Never happened to me although I've had quite a few marriage proposals from Thai ladies.

They never wanted to marry you just use you, Mr Tripod

[Nomerzypuntr]

Yep money and passport

[mr.bluesky]

You get it all the time when visiting Thailand from Thai ladies " me love you long time" 

[MLawro93]

No harassment received but will watch out for further behaviour.  Telling me not to pay will be the big moment to pause and have a serious conversation.  Not averse but have no idea how many other "lovers"  might be involved!

Yes, the you don't have to pay conversation. Always a red flag if a SP insists on you not paying, usually means something has changed. Its even why I am uncomfortable with the occasional freebie.

Do keep an eye out, as some people don't take rejection well.

[LLPunting]

Yes, the you don't have to pay conversation. Always a red flag if a SP insists on you not paying, usually means something has changed. Its even why I am uncomfortable with the occasional freebie.

Do keep an eye out, as some people don't take rejection well.

 A woman scorned...

[Punting2022]

Yes, the you don't have to pay conversation. Always a red flag if a SP insists on you not paying, usually means something has changed. Its even why I am uncomfortable with the occasional freebie.

Do keep an eye out, as some people don't take rejection well.

Id say thats the perfect thing. Good sex you dont get at home etc with a attractive lady. All for free. If was offered to me, id take it without batting a eyelid.
Just set the boundry. We see each other but no commitment.

[Paul9144]

You get it all the time when visiting Thailand from Thai ladies " me love you long time" 

I've not long logged in, and even when something like this has annoyed me (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=463089.msg4519104#msg4519104), or a negative punt etc.

Our members always without fail quickly cheer me up and make me laugh

[MLawro93]

Id say thats the perfect thing. Good sex you dont get at home etc with a attractive lady. All for free. If was offered to me, id take it without batting a eyelid.
Just set the boundry. We see each other but no commitment.

You're missing what's actually happening here. Taking it for free doesn't set a boundary, it confirms everything she might be hoping for. Now you're not a client, you're a lover who isn't paying, and every 'no commitment' you say after that is just noise to her. The money was the only thing keeping it unambiguous. Take it away and you've invited a whole lot of attention, expectation and risk of exposure into your life that you can't easily switch off. I've been on the receiving end of that. It's not free sex, it's a bill that arrives later.

[Doc Holliday]

You're missing what's actually happening here. Taking it for free doesn't set a boundary, it confirms everything she might be hoping for. Now you're not a client, you're a lover who isn't paying, and every 'no commitment' you say after that is just noise to her. The money was the only thing keeping it unambiguous. Take it away and you've invited a whole lot of attention, expectation and risk of exposure into your life that you can't easily switch off. I've been on the receiving end of that. It's not free sex, it's a bill that arrives later.

While I don't disagree with the scenario you outline, it is only one possible outcome. In my experience it can be possible to have a purely sexual arrangement 'off the books' with Sp's as long as that is what both parties are seeking.

It is not without risk though as there can indeed be fine lines, resulting in a purely sexual attraction drifting beyond that boundary.

I also experienced an obsessive situation which took me totally by surprise and was sorted accordingly.

However I have never experienced a situation where anyone told me 'they loved me' during a paid booking (even if it was accurate). That just wouldn't fit right with me and would ring serious alarm bells.

[LLPunting]

While I don't disagree with the scenario you outline, it is only one possible outcome. In my experience it can be possible to have a purely sexual arrangement 'off the books' with Sp's as long as that is what both parties are seeking.

It is not without risk though as there can indeed be fine lines, resulting in a purely sexual attraction drifting beyond that boundary.

I also experienced an obsessive situation which took me totally by surprise and was sorted accordingly.

However I have never experienced a situation where anyone told me 'they loved me' during a paid booking (even if it was accurate). That just wouldn't fit right with me and would ring serious alarm bells.

It's just that "not fit right" that I find hard to always confidently discern. It's easy enough if some sing-song voice says "I love you" in that obvious make a deal, flirty tone in some SE Asian parlour.  Similarly when a chorus of Latinas are plying and teasing trade.  When a seductive, husky EE breathes it before chortling and then sucking the life out of your cock.  No problemo. It's in the privacy of a familiar room and the tone has shifted to an unguardedness after any number of meets where it is said out of the blue that messes with the interpretation.

[Paul9144]

While I don't disagree with the scenario you outline, it is only one possible outcome. In my experience it can be possible to have a purely sexual arrangement 'off the books' with Sp's as long as that is what both parties are seeking.

It is not without risk though as there can indeed be fine lines, resulting in a purely sexual attraction drifting beyond that boundary.

I also experienced an obsessive situation which took me totally by surprise and was sorted accordingly.

However I have never experienced a situation where anyone told me 'they loved me' during a paid booking (even if it was accurate). That just wouldn't fit right with me and would ring serious alarm bells.

Overall Doc, I agree with you there.

The only thing that I will say is that I've studied with this website thoroughly since I joined it. One thing that I've picked up on by clicking into one (old/oldish) post link at various stages, then coincidentally me going into an older thread within another linked thread is that 'Reason For Ban' appears to often stem from SP complaints and previous/now banned members pushing the boundaries, and accepting freebies etc. I always assume that our website management team are aware and see everything that I'm doing at all times (even if they don't see it), I assume that they do, as I'm under no illusions that they're very well connected. It's also worth noting that the odd fruit and nut SP's are likely going to try and turn things around on you when things go sour.

Me personally, I feel that it's best to keep things strictly professional between us SS's and SP's.

[MLawro93]

While I don't disagree with the scenario you outline, it is only one possible outcome. In my experience it can be possible to have a purely sexual arrangement 'off the books' with Sp's as long as that is what both parties are seeking.

It is not without risk though as there can indeed be fine lines, resulting in a purely sexual attraction drifting beyond that boundary.

I also experienced an obsessive situation which took me totally by surprise and was sorted accordingly.

However I have never experienced a situation where anyone told me 'they loved me' during a paid booking (even if it was accurate). That just wouldn't fit right with me and would ring serious alarm bells.

Fair point, and I'm sure it does work for others. I'll admit my recent experience wasn't a pleasant one and it's coloured how I look at these little dynamics now. I was speaking from that rather than trying to set a rule for everyone.

I have had freebies imposed on me in the past, the "I don't want you to pay" conversation, with the money literally pushed back into my hands. Rather than stand there and argue I've just scuppered off, and that's usually where the issues have started further down the line.

Maybe I've just been unlucky haha. But yes, agreed on the "I love you" mid-booking. Whatever's behind it, it changes what's happening in the room and that's reason enough to sit up and take notice.

[Doc Holliday]

It's just that "not fit right" that I find hard to always confidently discern. It's easy enough if some sing-song voice says "I love you" in that obvious make a deal, flirty tone in some SE Asian parlour.  Similarly when a chorus of Latinas are plying and teasing trade.  When a seductive, husky EE breathes it before chortling and then sucking the life out of your cock.  No problemo. It's in the privacy of a familiar room and the tone has shifted to an unguardedness after any number of meets where it is said out of the blue that messes with the interpretation.

I didn't say interpretation was easy 

Having read the highlighted part I don't recognise any of those situations. It is apparent that my experiences are from a different era  and involve predominantly 'home grown' SPs and therefore probably not relevant to the current scene? 

[Doc Holliday]

Me personally, I feel that it's best to keep things strictly professional between us SS's and SP's.

Absolutely ... but in life we may not always do what we should!!

[Doc Holliday]

I'll admit my recent experience wasn't a pleasant one and it's coloured how I look at these little dynamics now. I was speaking from that rather than trying to set a rule for everyone.

I regretted my one bad experience. I was able to walk away somewhat shocked at reading it so wrong but was otherwise unscathed.

However there was a 'significant other' in the equation on her side and the repercussions with that were serious and long lasting.

[Paul9144]

Absolutely ... but in life we may not always do what we should!!

Very true

[Ace_max66]

Let me test out if I get the same treatment and I’ll report back LL 

Jokes aside best to nip in the bud. Crossing the client relationship boundary just blurs lines doesn’t it. Best to keep things transactional.

[Jonestown]

Maybe her visa is expiring and is looking for a quick fix.

[shagmore]

I have had, I love you inside me

[dutch]

I have had, I love you inside me

I've had I love your cock !

[Head1]

Do both of you a favour, head for the hills.

This is the best advice ever

[Nomerzypuntr]

I've had I love your cock !

I’ve had I like your hair and teeth

[LLPunting]

I have had, I love you inside me

Stage 0 - no commitment:  "How long you want baby?"
Stage 1 - return visits:  "See you next week"
Stage 2 - she's cumming more often, the kissing's more involved, some (off-menu) extra(s) included for free:  "I love you inside me"
Stage 3 - you spend more time cuddling, kissing and talking and neither of you care:  "I want you to fuck me again". If she's indie maybe you overstay without charge, if she's in a bhouse or parlour she pays management for the extra time.   You maybe have sight of her socials and private life.
Stage 4 - she's fucking you with intent, constant eye contact, snogging, licking, she's the sex monster, her words and noises are all sexual and she's using your cock to hit every spot inside both holes and the back of her throat: "I love you".  Things may be going raw now and loads are wanted inside.
Stage 5 - Terror town! :  You meet her family, she gets an abortion without telling you, you're overnighting for free, she cooks for you, you wake up in cold sweats without her, you try to break up and she gets violent or harasses you, "You're mine now baby" and you detect a little menace in her words, she dumps you and you can't handle it.
Stage 6 - You're fucked!

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[Clungist]

Stage 0 - no commitment:  "How long you want baby?"
Stage 1 - return visits:  "See you next week"
Stage 2 - she's cumming more often, the kissing's more involved, some (off-menu) extra(s) included for free:  "I love you inside me"
Stage 3 - you spend more time cuddling, kissing and talking and neither of you care:  "I want you to fuck me again". If she's indie maybe you overstay without charge, if she's in a bhouse or parlour she pays management for the extra time.   You maybe have sight of her socials and private life.
Stage 4 - she's fucking you with intent, constant eye contact, snogging, licking, she's the sex monster, her words and noises are all sexual and she's using your cock to hit every spot inside both holes and the back of her throat: "I love you".  Things may be going raw now and loads are wanted inside.
Stage 5 - Terror town! :  You meet her family, she gets an abortion without telling you, you're overnighting for free, she cooks for you, you wake up in cold sweats without her, you try to break up and she gets violent or harasses you, "You're mine now baby" and you detect a little menace in her words, she dumps you and you can't handle it.
Stage 6 - You're fucked!

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Ahh... I see you've met my Ex wife then...

[shagmore]

Stage 0 - no commitment:  "How long you want baby?"
Stage 1 - return visits:  "See you next week"
Stage 2 - she's cumming more often, the kissing's more involved, some (off-menu) extra(s) included for free:  "I love you inside me"
Stage 3 - you spend more time cuddling, kissing and talking and neither of you care:  "I want you to fuck me again". If she's indie maybe you overstay without charge, if she's in a bhouse or parlour she pays management for the extra time.   You maybe have sight of her socials and private life.
Stage 4 - she's fucking you with intent, constant eye contact, snogging, licking, she's the sex monster, her words and noises are all sexual and she's using your cock to hit every spot inside both holes and the back of her throat: "I love you".  Things may be going raw now and loads are wanted inside.
Stage 5 - Terror town! :  You meet her family, she gets an abortion without telling you, you're overnighting for free, she cooks for you, you wake up in cold sweats without her, you try to break up and she gets violent or harasses you, "You're mine now baby" and you detect a little menace in her words, she dumps you and you can't handle it.
Stage 6 - You're fucked!

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Nah, all good, she now says she l9ves me but she is now my partner and lives with me, and have met the family. She has given up work also before you ask

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[Punting2022]

Stage 0 - no commitment:  "How long you want baby?"
Stage 1 - return visits:  "See you next week"
Stage 2 - she's cumming more often, the kissing's more involved, some (off-menu) extra(s) included for free:  "I love you inside me"
Stage 3 - you spend more time cuddling, kissing and talking and neither of you care:  "I want you to fuck me again". If she's indie maybe you overstay without charge, if she's in a bhouse or parlour she pays management for the extra time.   You maybe have sight of her socials and private life.
Stage 4 - she's fucking you with intent, constant eye contact, snogging, licking, she's the sex monster, her words and noises are all sexual and she's using your cock to hit every spot inside both holes and the back of her throat: "I love you".  Things may be going raw now and loads are wanted inside.
Stage 5 - Terror town! :  You meet her family, she gets an abortion without telling you, you're overnighting for free, she cooks for you, you wake up in cold sweats without her, you try to break up and she gets violent or harasses you, "You're mine now baby" and you detect a little menace in her words, she dumps you and you can't handle it.
Stage 6 - You're fucked!

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Stage 4 seems the best of it. Getting good sex No commitment etc.
Have a few stage 4 meets, then stop seeing and its fine.

[LLPunting]

Nah, all good, she now says she l9ves me but she is now my partner and lives with me, and have met the family. She has given up work also before you ask

So she says, so she says...

[shagmore]

Stage 4 seems the best of it. Getting good sex No commitment etc.
Have a few stage 4 meets, then stop seeing and its fine.

This one is a keeper, not interested in anyone else

[Thephoenix]

So she says, so she says...

Oh don't be so cynical chum.
You're spoiling a nice love story, and surely we all want happy endings. 
 

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Oh don't be so cynical chum.
You're spoiling a nice love story, and surely we all want happy endings. 

That's what Parlours are for..Boom Boom!   

"I love you."  When to be concerned?  Ans:  When she calls you from the station Suitcase in tow saying "Come pick me up Baaabeee!

[Nomerzypuntr]

Oh don't be so cynical chum.
You're spoiling a nice love story, and surely we all want happy endings. 

No we want Part 2,3 

[Munter84]

I’ve had I like your hair and teeth

Was the next question "...how much did they cost?"

[Nomerzypuntr]

Was the next question "...how much did they cost?"

It’s natural

[Prince]

I'm in a level 4/5 these days. It's a little scary but I'm going with it. Will see if I live to tell the tail.

 

[LLPunting]

I'm in a level 4/5 these days. It's a little scary but I'm going with it. Will see if I live to tell the tail.

 

Best of luck mate, hope you're single and maintaining some control on finances, even if paying has transitioned to "dating and occasional tokens of appreciation/affection" 

[Iceman90]

Just pretend and get free sex. Take her on a few trips when you can get away from the missus. Then just slow fade her she’ll get angry and leave you herself. Rinse and repeat for free sex with escorts