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Male victims of domestic and sexual abuse often face stigma, shame, and a lack of specialised services, with a 2022 report finding that 82% of men found it difficult to access support.
The Men & Boys Coalition highlights structural challenges for men as parents, particularly in family court systems where mothers are more likely to be awarded primary residence.
Boys have trailed girls in education for years, with issues in literacy and engagement starting early in schooling.
Society frequently assumes men are less capable of raising children, particularly after divorce.
Sexual assault and intimate partner violence against men is frequently ignored, downplayed, or met with mockery. There are fewer resources available for male victims.
Men are overrepresented in dangerous, high-risk, and fatal jobs. There is also societal pressure for men to be the sole "provider," leading to higher pressure in professional roles.
Men may face biases in child custody disputes, with stereotypes suggesting children are better off with mothers, and may face unfair burdens.
Ignoring Reproductive Rights: Critics argue that treating abortion strictly as a "woman's issue" allows men to be excluded, even when they desire to become fathers.


These are just some examples of how society in the Uk can sometimes be seen as sexism or misandry against men and boys.

Women and girls also face sexism, but the difference is that women and girls sexism or misogyny is often highlighted on the mainstream media, whereas men and boys problems often get sidelined or blatantly ignored.   

Worryingly, there is now a ever increasing incel culture going on which seeks to spread hate towards women and girls which in my view is often driven by their own hurt feelings. Incel culture seeks to take out their anger on women instead of trying to advocate change. This surely does not help matters.

There are also some men across the western world who are "MGTOW". Which stands for "Men going their own way". These individuals seek to have nothing to do with women in their entirety, although some do caveats this by still seeking paid sex with them.

Yet, Gb news a month or so ago had a discussion on whether men should be allowed to work in nurseries. This debate started due to the recent paedophile who was charged and given a lengthen sentence for abusing children at the nursery where he worked.
Gb news did not mention the fact that there have been a number of women over the past year who have done similar crimes to him and yet no one called for females to be banned from nurseries settings.

Men feel judged when other men do bad things, it seems this is the truth and is played out by society at every level.
Men can feel unfairly labelled when a few bad actions are used to characterise the entire gender, a feeling that is often countered by the sentiment that "not all men" are the same.

When society is trying to become more equal, are we doing so without equalising the fairness for men  :unknown:

I also believe men and women are different which is obviously the case. But they can be equally treated the same.

In the news today, Transgender girls told to leave Girl guiding groups by September. Yet girls can join boy scouts. I know they are different organisations, but it does seem to be the case (so clearly) to some that girls and women are allowed to have their own space where they can be around people of the same gender but boys and men don't or is not allowed to be around people of the same gender as them.

A golf club ( I forgotten the name of it) has now allowed females to join their club due to societal pressure.

There are times where females are allowed to enter nightclubs for free, gyms for free along with other freebies at other venues. Men don't seem to get any freebies. I am not saying they should or I am not saying they shouldn't. What I am saying is that it does seem now that in 2026 equality means if it benefits the female population regardless if men benefits or don't.  :unknown:

I am not saying companies should be forced to treat men the same way as they do with women, I am mearly stating the fact that females do often get cheap or free stuff because of their gender while men do not. I am also stating that if a man did get something for free in a company then they may well be a outcry by some stating about the unfairness of this.  :unknown:
 
There is a women and girls minister in parliament but no minister for men and boys despite many tries and attempts by advocates in the past.


Women face problems because of their gender too, but their problems seem to not go unnoticed by the mainstream media and the wider society.

Women and girls are more likely to face sexual harassment, sexual assault or stalking. The most concerning thing that women face on a regular basis is the risk of being the victim of a sexual assault.

Both genders still face really big challenges to navigate the road to true equality and fairness for all.

Norah Vincent died via assisted suicide at a clinic in Switzerland on July 6, 2022, at age 53 after living life like a man (including dressing and acting like a man). She was a radical feminst who then rethought the way she thought the world was. In the early 2000s, Vincent disguised herself as a man named "Ned" for 18 months to research her book, Self-Made Man: One Woman's Journey Into Manhood and Back Again (2006)
Her suicide was some 15 years after this experiment.

There has also been a documentary film produced called "the red pill" which dives into some of the problems that men faced back when the film was filmed. I should add that this film was not mainstream and was not shown or broadcast by the mainstream media or was reported on by credible newspapers at the time of the film released. 


I first named this thread "are men the real victims of sexism in Great Britain today?", then I decided to change the title to "why are the problems men faced are not talked about in the mainstream?"

Your thoughts and feelings on this subject?  :hi:
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...and women have better orgasms than men and capable of multi-orgasms!!!
It's totally unfair! :thumbsdown:

Mind you I'm more than happy for them to keep the childbirth bit.  :hi:

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...and women have better orgasms than men and capable of multi-orgasms!!!
It's totally unfair! :thumbsdown:

Mind you I'm more than happy for them to keep the childbirth bit.  :hi:



And periods plus menopause


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...and women have better orgasms than men and capable of multi-orgasms!!!
It's totally unfair! :thumbsdown:

Mind you I'm more than happy for them to keep the childbirth bit.  :hi:

On a serious note the OP highlights a number of serious issues and tbh I wouldn't want to be a young man in today's world.

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On a serious note the OP highlights a number of serious issues and tbh I wouldn't want to be a young man in today's world.

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  :hi:


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Here we go again.  :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is the off topic section, You don't have to read it mate  :hi:

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...and women have better orgasms than men and capable of multi-orgasms!!!
It's totally unfair! :thumbsdown:


swings and round abouts when it comes to this though. women have no refractory periods (or very short ones) which means they can have a orgasm and within a few minutes become horny again.
I would hate that to be the case for me, Life would be unbearable if I am constantly in an aroused state.  :)

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Are we supposed to read the green bits or the red bit?

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Are we supposed to read the green bits or the red bit?


some of the bits are in colour so they stick out to the reader.

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This is the off topic section, You don't have to read it mate  :hi:
I haven't   :hi:

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Are we supposed to read the green bits or the red bit?
Pity he doesn't use white ink

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some of the bits are in colour so they stick out to the reader.

just gives me a headache

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It's one of those rabbit holes you could go down and get very bitter about (I have, frequently, in the past). But, like many shitty things in the world at the moment, why get personally upset about things you have no power to change, except on a personal level? (And that includes being selective with what news and media you choose to consume on the subject).

You can't right every wrong. Just be a supporter and proponent for the issues you care about, on a personal level and in a personal capacity.

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Summary:

- Male victims of domestic and sexual abuse face stigma, shame, scarce specialist services, and difficulty accessing support (82% found it hard in a 2022 report). 

- Men encounter structural disadvantages in family courts and custody, with mothers more often awarded primary residence and stereotypes suggesting women are better caregivers. 

- Boys lag behind girls in education, especially in literacy and engagement from early school years. 

- Sexual assault and intimate-partner violence against men is often ignored, downplayed, or mocked; fewer resources exist for male victims. 

- Men are overrepresented in dangerous, high-risk, and fatal jobs and face societal pressure to be sole providers. 

- Reproductive issues (e.g., abortion) are treated mainly as "women's issues," excluding men who want fatherhood. 

- Online subcultures (incel, some MGTOW) spread hostility toward women and withdrawal from relationships, worsening social tensions. 

- Media and public debates can unfairly generalize from individual crimes to all men (e.g., calls to ban men from nurseries), while similar female offenders receive less attention. 

- Perceptions of unequal treatment: women sometimes receive gender-based perks (free entry/offers) and there is a minister for women and girls but no equivalent for men and boys. 

- Both genders face serious, distinct harms—women disproportionately face sexual harassment, assault, and stalking—and broader equality challenges remain. 

- Cultural references: Norah Vincent’s experiment and death; the documentary "The Red Pill" discussed men's issues but received limited mainstream coverage.

Main question posed: why are men's problems sidelined in mainstream discussion, and are men the real victims of sexism in Great Britain today?

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On a serious note the OP highlights a number of serious issues and tbh I wouldn't want to be a young man in today's world.

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I agree he highlights some genuine issues but as in the sentiment of the basic thread nobody much seems to take them seriously (even on a site dedicated to fucking whores for cash) so I think he's actually proven his point really  :unknown:

I'm all in favour of equality but equality should actually mean equality rather than the slow drip feed of hostility against men that I feel i've witnessed in my own lifetime since the early 80's.
Part of the problem is that as soon as you stand up for men / men's issues your are labelled sexist / misogynistic etc then casually throw in the toxic word for added effect

One thing the OP missed out is in the health sector where women's problems seem to be given high prominence whereas men's health issues often appear to play 2nd fiddle and not be taken seriously

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One thing the OP missed out is in the health sector where women's problems seem to be given high prominence whereas men's health issues often appear to play 2nd fiddle and not be taken seriously

It is quite funny that you picked that issue because there is plenty of evidence in healthcare of the opposite, it tends to be women's issues that receive less attention.  I have not got time now to dig out the evidence but a quick google or ChatGPT should find it if anyone is interested.

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Beats me why the OP types in pretty colours when it's well known that colour blindness is mainly a male problem


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Beats me why the OP types in pretty colours when it's well known that colour blindness is mainly a male problem

I have also got colour blindness myself  :hi:

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It is quite funny that you picked that issue because there is plenty of evidence in healthcare of the opposite, it tends to be women's issues that receive less attention.  I have not got time now to dig out the evidence but a quick google or ChatGPT should find it if anyone is interested.


I don't know about this but NHS does spend less on mens health than on womens health.



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also I forgot to mention, men die on average 5 years earlier than women. Surely men should be allowed to retire earlier than our female counterparts.  :D

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It's one of those rabbit holes you could go down and get very bitter about (I have, frequently, in the past). But, like many shitty things in the world at the moment, why get personally upset about things you have no power to change, except on a personal level? (And that includes being selective with what news and media you choose to consume on the subject).

You can't right every wrong. Just be a supporter and proponent for the issues you care about, on a personal level and in a personal capacity.

Honestly speaking, if I hear something negatively on the news about men or some injustice that only affects men I do something (occasionally) get a bit bitter but I then shake it off and move on. I or anybody else can't change the world the way that it is, you can only work and change yourself and by doing that you are effectively changing the world by changing your place in the world around you.

Some sound peice of advice from you, my friend.  :drinks:

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Most people in society think (and rightly so in my view) - men should never hit a women, even if the women hits the man first.

Most people in society also thinks - If a women hit a man, it is no big deal.


I don't like the way that tv soaps glorify female violence towards men, yet they demonise male violence towards women. Both of them should have no place in society but sometimes it can feel that a woman can do no wrong.

How often on tv soaps and dramas do we see a woman slapping a male and yet that woman is portrayed as a good character in the tv soap or drama? Lots of times, is the answer.
This has got to stop :thumbsdown:

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also I forgot to mention, men die on average 5 years earlier than women. Surely men should be allowed to retire earlier than our female counterparts.  :D

That can be resolved by transitioning.  :unknown:

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Most people in society think (and rightly so in my view) - men should never hit a women, even if the women hits the man first.

Most people in society also thinks - If a women hit a man, it is no big deal.


I don't like the way that tv soaps glorify female violence towards men, yet they demonise male violence towards women. Both of them should have no place in society but sometimes it can feel that a woman can do no wrong.

How often on tv soaps and dramas do we see a woman slapping a male and yet that woman is portrayed as a good character in the tv soap or drama? Lots of times, is the answer.
This has got to stop :thumbsdown:

Soaps are not a reflection of real life, they are just crap feminine oriented fiction.
If you can't handle the fiction don't watch them

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I don't know about this but NHS does spend less on mens health than on womens health.

That's because women get pregnant and have babies and need health care during that process.
Most men don't (unless you know otherwise)

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Soaps are not a reflection of real life, they are just crap feminine oriented fiction.
If you can't handle the fiction don't watch them

agree, but a big section of society gets their morality from tv soaps.  :thumbsdown:

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agree, but a big section of society gets their morality from tv soaps.  :thumbsdown:

WTF has morality got to do with male health?

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That's because women get pregnant and have babies and need health care during that process.
Most men don't (unless you know otherwise)
Women do generally seem to have more ailments or thinks to go wrong than men so it makes sense that overall more is spent on women than men however IMO it just feels like woman's health issues are taken seriously whereas men's are less so

Women seem to get screened for all sorts (Brest & Cervical cancer for instance) and rightly so however when it comes to screening men i'd say there is still some catching up to be done
One that's been on TV recently is screening for prostate cancer but I believe it wasn't recommended that everyone should get screening only people with a specific defective gene between ages 45 and 61

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Women do generally seem to have more ailments or thinks to go wrong than men so it makes sense that overall more is spent on women than men however IMO it just feels like woman's health issues are taken seriously whereas men's are less so

Women seem to get screened for all sorts (Brest & Cervical cancer for instance) and rightly so however when it comes to screening men i'd say there is still some catching up to be done
One that's been on TV recently is screening for prostate cancer but I believe it wasn't recommended that everyone should get screening only people with a specific defective gene between ages 45 and 61

I thought that all men were now regularly screened for bowel cancer?

I get a kit through the post every few years.

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WTF has morality got to do with male health?


I was referring to our discussion about the below post about tv soaps and dramas:


Most people in society think (and rightly so in my view) - men should never hit a women, even if the women hits the man first.

Most people in society also thinks - If a women hit a man, it is no big deal.


I don't like the way that tv soaps glorify female violence towards men, yet they demonise male violence towards women. Both of them should have no place in society but sometimes it can feel that a woman can do no wrong.

How often on tv soaps and dramas do we see a woman slapping a male and yet that woman is portrayed as a good character in the tv soap or drama? Lots of times, is the answer.
This has got to stop :thumbsdown:


and your reply to that:

Soaps are not a reflection of real life, they are just crap feminine oriented fiction.
If you can't handle the fiction don't watch them
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I thought that all men were now regularly screened for bowel cancer?

I get a kit through the post every few years.
Every 2 years between 50 and 74.

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One that's been on TV recently is screening for prostate cancer but I believe it wasn't recommended that everyone should get screening only people with a specific defective gene between ages 45 and 61

It was a clinical decision based on the harms of comprehensive screening against the benefits.

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I was referring to our discussion about the below post about tv soaps and dramas:

and your reply to that:

But that doesn't justify your comment that soaps are about morality when in fact they just reflect the stupidity of the viewers

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But that doesn't justify your comment that soaps are about morality when in fact they just reflect the stupidity of the viewers


ok, fair enough  :hi:

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But that doesn't justify your comment that soaps are about morality when in fact they just reflect the stupidity of the viewers

Wouldn't you say though that media both reflects and influences the values of society?

I've been on both sides of this debate in the past. No, I don't believe that violent video games turn kids into killers. But also, propaganda is a thing. As a society we're hyper-aware of negative or stereotyped portrayals of women or minority groups in media. Men seem to be the last group that you can make lazy or harmful generalisations about.

Let the stupid viewers watch their stupid soaps and keep their stupid opinions? Sure, but these people also vote. It's not happening in a vacuum.

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Men seem to be the last group that you can make lazy or harmful generalisations about.


Not true, men are often seen on tv programmes as idiot buffoons.  :unknown:

They are often viewed on the telly as childish or viewed as a "man child".

 Many male characters are depicted as childish, immature, and incapable of taking on serious responsibility, acting as another child in the household rather than a partner.

Some of this has changed in recent years but there are still elements of this on British TV programmes

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Not true, men are often seen on tv programmes as idiot buffoons.  :unknown:

They are often viewed on the telly as childish or viewed as a "man child".

 Many male characters are depicted as childish, immature, and incapable of taking on serious responsibility, acting as another child in the household rather than a partner.

Some of this has changed in recent years but there are still elements of this on British TV programmes

Just as much stereotyping of women still goes on in TV programmes.

e.g. - just interested in their appearance / designer clothes / the matriarchal dragon / gossip girl / dumb blonde

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Not true, men are often seen on tv programmes as idiot buffoons.  :unknown:

I agree with you. That's exactly what I was saying.

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I agree with you. That's exactly what I was saying.

Oh yeah, You do agree with me.  :thumbsup:

My apologies  :hi:

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I thought that all men were now regularly screened for bowel cancer?

I get a kit through the post every few years.
I've had nothing and that's despite having bowel polyps removed 3 years ago as I was shitting blood

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It was a clinical decision based on the harms Cost of comprehensive screening against the benefits.
Or possibly, after all it doesn't matter that much as it's only men (especially middle aged)

I think the point I and some others are perhaps trying to make is that in modern society a large proportion of men feel marginalised and that they basically don't matter, perhaps this contributes to young male suicide rates being higher than women basically thinking that nobody gives a fuck about them or their health mental &/or physical.

Men are really only wanted to go out and keep working to keep paying their taxes, oh and shut up and don't complain about paying for every other fucker while you get back far less than you've put in  :thumbsdown:

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Apparently it’s now fashionable among the younger generations to include their mental health diagnoses on their CVs.

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Apparently it’s now fashionable among the younger generations to include their mental health diagnoses on their CVs.
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Or possibly, after all it doesn't matter that much as it's only men (especially middle aged)

I think the point I and some others are perhaps trying to make is that in modern society a large proportion of men feel marginalised and that they basically don't matter, perhaps this contributes to young male suicide rates being higher than women basically thinking that nobody gives a fuck about them or their health mental &/or physical.

Men are really only wanted to go out and keep working to keep paying their taxes, oh and shut up and don't complain about paying for every other fucker while you get back far less than you've put in  :thumbsdown:

But is some of that marginalisation caused by false information, like your assertion around prostate screening, circulating on the internet?

I agree there are issues that need to be addressed but I don't think it is in the area of health.

Creating false issues, and I would say several of the OP ones fall into that category, just hides the real issues and gives those who are against you justification to ridicule you.

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I've had nothing and that's despite having bowel polyps removed 3 years ago as I was shitting blood

Lucky man had that some years ago was crappin myself witrh worrly but all was well that polyps can go cancerous and are very easly removed a simple snip!//