Author Topic: How to do deal with bad/neutral reviews hurting SPs feelings  (Read 4062 times)

Offline Wayfarer

Addendum to my post above.

Abuse of Reviews
One of the problems with providing information on this forum is that there are unfortunately plenty of unsavoury characters who will use that information to pressure the SP in to providing a service, by either threatening a poor review, or promising a favourable review. This is what I suspect is happening to the SP who is the subject of the review you provided. I have heard this from numerous SP's who have been the subject of this type of manipulation.

Fortunately the Mod Team take a hard line on any members exhibiting any form of bad behaviour towards SP's. I think it is therefore unlikely that unsavoury characters will get away with giving an SP a bad review in these cases. The combined intel and an accumulation of reviews by members, usually flags these type of revenge reviews (as recent bans and reviews being discredited attest)
Thank you for the reaffirmation that Mods protect SPs against using reviews to pressure SPs into performing services. It is the right thing to do.

This hobby is YMMV. I may get more and I may get less than the next man.

Yep, shit happens, and it's not always predictable.

We just have to move on, live and learn.
It was a shock when I saw the new paragraph written her profile.

Yup, I am getting my head in the right place to move on.

Thank you,

W

Offline sammathy

1) Yes, work harder to make sure that the review on UKP cant be linked to AW or other identities.  I know, sometimes this is impossible.
....so....
2) Either don't give a girl you want to see again a neutral, or just don't try to go back to a girl that you gave a neutral!  On the day you wrote it you were thinking 'meh'.  Plenty of fish.  Listen to your own advice and find another fish.

Won’t we just end up with guys posting positive reviews on awful girls, in the hopes that they can click with (AKA fix) the girl in the next meet?

You should read reviews from back in the day from the likes BigusDickusRidesAgain
They & others were hilarious to read i was laarfing reading them
I've choked on a drink or three
These reviews did indeed share knowledge & experience
Entertaining attracts attention & is better remembered so sharing


I’ve never seen a cock the size of a newborn baby before so it always baffles me when I read reviews like that. It’s not like we’re ever doing anything different to whatever she’s felt before. Which is most likely why the girls butter up the guy’s ego and play along. Nothing wrong with a bit of flair and indisputable truths. But the “only I got her to…” malarkey? What a mess!
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sammathy - some, perhaps most, of the time webpunter is a reasonable commentator on threads but occasionally he can be, imo, a bit of an arse. We did have a bit of a clash on the football thread (but to be fair to him, he has been a lot better on the issue i called him out on) so maybe he is trying to have a bit of a go back at me - if so imo he has choosen the wrong thread to do that as this is a serious matter and reviews go to the heart of this forum.

He knows what i said and what i meant:

why are you doing a review on UKP? it isn't (or shouldn't be) to make you feel like a great lover or to provide entertaining reading material to other punters, It should be to share knowledge and experience about a SP.


ie the main purpose of doing a review is not to .....(as above) . I never said it is not allowed or shouldn't be entertaining - but that is not the reason / purpose for doing reviews.

But he knows this! He is just being...... well him on one of his silly days!

Offline Illuminated4000

Thank you for sharing your predicament here, Wayfarer. I sympathise  :drinks: We’re not alone in all this; the tangled webs and all that. How have your meetings been with her since? Did she challenge you in it and you feigned it being someone else? Did you say you’ve never heard of UKP to her, as some on here have recommended? It’s interesting to me how some SPs disapprove of membership even after getting glowing green positives. One of the things that makes this site so invaluable is increased safety and protection from potentially dangerous scammers and trappers collaborating with violent thugs to rob clients, say. I think that recently banned member with the Remi Malek profile pic had a similar situation as you.

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Only he was not getting a special service that his best mate got with her, or something like that…

Offline Wayfarer

Thank you for sharing your predicament here, Wayfarer. I sympathise  :drinks: We’re not alone in all this; the tangled webs and all that. How have your meetings been with her since? Did she challenge you in it and you feigned it being someone else? Did you say you’ve never heard of UKP to her, as some on here have recommended? It’s interesting to me how some SPs disapprove of membership even after getting glowing green positives. One of the things that makes this site so invaluable is increased safety and protection from potentially dangerous scammers and trappers collaborating with violent thugs to rob clients, say. I think that recently banned member with the Remi Malek profile pic had a similar situation as you.
To date, I have not returned to see her again. I cannot see if I am blocked or not and I have not tried contacting her or she me.

I am taking the advice of @Pilotman to just move on. I rather not be involved in any encounter.

My takeaway is I will need to be more mindful of reporting services not readily available to all in my reviews. 

Offline koshkaj

So I tried contacting Bella Sadim on WhatsApp recently, noting it lingered on a single tick. Thinking she may have blocked me, I texted her over SMS. I did wonder if it was because of my neutral review, and she texted back to confirm it was. I’m feeling terrible about this, as she seemed genuinely hurt by it. I’m wracked with guilt that I’ve potentially hurt someone’s feelings, especially as she was really nice to me. Any suggestions, or just put it down to experience and not going into so much detail next time?

Thank you for making this thread. I know you took a lot of ribbing, some of which i agree with (looking forward to your super fluffy review when you see her again to stay in her good books, just kidding).

I have written a negative review for a SP I am planning to rebook at another date after some time has passed, as she double-booked me, but the (many) positive reviews of her service make me feel I should try again. If it turned out she has blocked me based on the neg, I would be disappointed.

I have only a few reviews here, but already 3 SPs have told me that punters who have visted them have told them about this site, and that the reviews is what encouraged them to book. One of them even went as far as to load up UKP, go to my specific review of the WG and give it to her to read. She was very happy and appreciative about it as it brought her business, but it did cross my mind if she would have been as accomodating if I had written a negative review, and that did affect my thought processes for a bit. Although I kinda made up my mind to ignore it and carry on, I understand where you are coming from. The advice you have been given here by others has also been useful to me.

Offline sammathy

To date, I have not returned to see her again. I cannot see if I am blocked or not and I have not tried contacting her or she me.

I am taking the advice of @Pilotman to just move on. I rather not be involved in any encounter.

My takeaway is I will need to be more mindful of reporting services not readily available to all in my reviews.
Indeed it is a difficult pill to swallow when an SP takes a shine to you, and then to report back here the extras she offers, all for one of the rare munters on here to decide to blackmail the girl instead of just finding someone else more accommodating. :dash: My hard and fast rule now is any specific SP who offers me UTC, free sex or exchanges socials with me, I won't even review full-stop, unless it's already publicly known information. A couple of girls who I ended up in flings with have bad reviews on here, but all my times with them were positive. Despite this, how beneficial would my potential reviews have been to the forum, if I've essentially become their Sergei and it be considered touting?

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I get you @sammathy

With massage orientated SPs i never detail xtras which might [mostly might not] make it onto the menu
Tho with a deft skillful approach respectful not pushing boundaries be on time reliable - the usual stuff [various other criteria we know what they are] - repeat visits can reap rewards
& the most important ingredient a large slice of good luck they're in the mood the massage stars align & the possibilities expand
They 'like' you which means they would prefer to be tugging you off than others & arent averse to repeat visits encouraging this with the add ons
You become a walking cash-point 
Detailing the xtras / goings on & you are likely to end up being sunk as much more easily identifiable as its only some of the punters who it could be
& one thing for sure you are not the only one !

The reality is that if you are onto a real winner best to hold off on reviews until its time to move on
It is sharing on UKP just a bit deferred
If UKPers disagree i can only assume that they havent found the winner who rides in CG like she's about to romp it in The Derby

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The reality is that if you are onto a real winner best to hold off on reviews until its time to move on
It is sharing on UKP just a bit deferred
If UKPers disagree i can only assume that they havent found the winner who rides in CG like she's about to romp it in The Derby

A good point you make there. But I do think that there's a benefit in sharing winners. Helps other punters to add a reliable girl to their hotlists. Indirectly she'll appreciate the surge in business but not know quite what's causing it. :lol: I've reviewed girls who've I ended up struggling to book again, but don't regret it. I understand that despite her enthusiasm, she has drawn a professional line, so I leave it at that and move on to the next.
To go back to @Wayfarer's dilemma, in retrospect, it might not be harmful to review girls who give UTC but just omit said activities, and only draw a line at girls you have follow-up meets with off the books. Because my advice may be a hard one to stick to if you're just that guy with the ladies. :cool: Staying with an SP over the allocated time could fall into the UTC category after all.
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If UKPers disagree i can only assume that they havent found the winner who rides in CG like she's about to romp it in The Derby

What are you talking about, on all my punts the girl rides me like that. 

If yours are not doing that, you must be doing something wrong  ;)  :P

Offline webpunter

What are you talking about, on all my punts the girl rides me like that. 

If yours are not doing that, you must be doing something wrong  ;)  :P

Well obviously i am :rolleyes:
Giddy-up
You are in the furlong closing in on a double century not out  :hi:

Offline Wayfarer

I have only a few reviews here, but already 3 SPs have told me that punters who have visted them have told them about this site, and that the reviews is what encouraged them to book. One of them even went as far as to load up UKP, go to my specific review of the WG and give it to her to read. She was very happy and appreciative about it as it brought her business, but it did cross my mind if she would have been as accomodating if I had written a negative review, and that did affect my thought processes for a bit. Although I kinda made up my mind to ignore it and carry on, I understand where you are coming from. The advice you have been given here by others has also been useful to me.
Hi koshkaj,

My concern in this situation is the girl connecting me to the review that the other punter had loaded up on his smartphone to show her in the situation you describe. Gettting outed as a forum reviewer in my experience is not always positive. The girl in this case obviously appreciated the extra business due to the positive but as you say imagine if the review was negative and she knew it was you who wrote it. Just as you describe,

The identifying services or occurrences in the meet all add up to connecting you.

As we discussed on the other thread, reviews caused the lady discussed to change her policy on a particular service from being a strict liability rule to an absolute liability rule with consequences of stopping the booking and refusing future bookings. so there are consequences.

Just thinking needing to be more circumspect in reviews.

Offline Wayfarer

Hi sammathy

Indeed it is a difficult pill to swallow when an SP takes a shine to you, and then to report back here the extras she offers, all for one of the rare munters on here to decide to blackmail the girl instead of just finding someone else more accommodating. :dash: My hard and fast rule now is any specific SP who offers me UTC, free sex or exchanges socials with me, I won't even review full-stop, unless it's already publicly known information. A couple of girls who I ended up in flings with have bad reviews on here, but all my times with them were positive. Despite this, how beneficial would my potential reviews have been to the forum, if I've essentially become their Sergei and it be considered touting?
In my case the reporting of the service has backfired. I did think, when writing the review, that she specifically says she does not allow this service. She allowed the service for me. I don't why. It just felt a natural thing to do. She did not demur, I would had complied if she had. I should had taken my internal hint not to list perforning the sex act but I felt compelled to share information which is why I wanted to join this site. To give back to what it has given me.

I agree that anything UTC, free sex and socials is not to be reported. I believe socials are banned to be reported in any case on the forum.  I have done that on my reviews to date. I just did not on this review and its blown up with the lady pointing it out on her profile.

I also taking your point of being alleged to be shilling.

A good point you make there. But I do think that there's a benefit in sharing winners. Helps other punters to add a reliable girl to their hotlists. Indirectly she'll appreciate the surge in business but not know quite what's causing it. :lol: I've reviewed girls who've I ended up struggling to book again, but don't regret it. I understand that despite her enthusiasm, she has drawn a professional line, so I leave it at that and move on to the next.
To go back to @Wayfarer's dilemma, in retrospect, it might not be harmful to review girls who give UTC but just omit said activities, and only draw a line at girls you have follow-up meets with off the books. Because my advice may be a hard one to stick to if you're just that guy with the ladies. :cool: Staying with an SP over the allocated time could fall into the UTC category after all.
I agree with this as well, to share winners so others may experience the same. Not to gate keep the good ones. I know there are reasons for gatekeeping like making sure she is available for you to book yourself and not booked up by others or fear as she becomes popular that her prices go up and you can afford less.

Your point about being open to drawing a line and move on is important. This is a hobby. She is not your friend or girlfriend. If it is hard to book her or it costs too much for what you are getting then move on to someone who will see you or charge within your budget. It is as you say a bitter pill to do this, but do it. I have been here a few times myself and seen the money poured down the drain. My friend tells me to charge the cost to punting. Do not punt more than you can afford.

I think I will continue review the ladies where I receive UTC or extras not provided to others, but as you advise and @pilotman says:
1) if the service is not on her likes list or is not listed at all then do not report. This is where UTC and unlisted extra services or services clearly banned.
2) if the service is discretionary then feel free to report the service to produce statistically useful information on how often the discretionary service is allowed
3) review freely services on the likes list. I will need to cross reference my review to the list of likes which will be a pain.

To be fair, I would not call extra time over the paid for allocated time a UTC. It happens. More likely than not my punts have been over time due to we are in the moment or we are having a chat and i am thinking I need to go as you have your next punter or I only paid you for 1 hour and she goes its fine, take your time, no rush, or chat.  This can be anywhere from 10 minutes to hours over. But to date I have never mentioned it in reviews since its a minor detail to me as it happens. I definitely never mention when the girl asks me to help her take some videos or stills of her for her OF or TikTok or Insta. I end up directing her poses for arse and pussy angles. Just when she offers filming well I say. I would call that unlisted extra services.

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Somewhere along the line this thread seems to have morphed from avoiding giving any information which could identify you to giving information regarding certain services?

Anyway with regard to the former, identification may not be just based on your review content, but on your other posts. In other discussions you may give some details about your personal life which match what you have said to the SP.

While the SP themselves may not have a UKP account with settings allowing them to search your other posts, they may well have a white knight to do it on their behalf. There are likely to be vastly more members who will do this than you would think ... and despite denials.

You just have to be careful with personal identifying information full stop.

With regard to the latter topic of certain services I fondly remember a female version of Liam Neeson in ‘Taken’

If you put that in a review, I will find you and I will kill you” she said …. as my semen dribbled out of her mouth.


 

Offline Wayfarer

I get you @sammathy

With massage orientated SPs i never detail xtras which might [mostly might not] make it onto the menu
Tho with a deft skillful approach respectful not pushing boundaries be on time reliable - the usual stuff [various other criteria we know what they are] - repeat visits can reap rewards
& the most important ingredient a large slice of good luck they're in the mood the massage stars align & the possibilities expand
They 'like' you which means they would prefer to be tugging you off than others & arent averse to repeat visits encouraging this with the add ons
You become a walking cash-point 
Detailing the xtras / goings on & you are likely to end up being sunk as much more easily identifiable as its only some of the punters who it could be
& one thing for sure you are not the only one !

The reality is that if you are onto a real winner best to hold off on reviews until its time to move on
It is sharing on UKP just a bit deferred
If UKPers disagree i can only assume that they havent found the winner who rides in CG like she's about to romp it in The Derby
Hi webpunter,

I agree with you totally. I do dip into the massage scene, but more for the massage than the extras available which I find more suited to an escort. However, I do get the analogy. You do not want to be outing yourself by mentioning a service that maybe no one else or more probably, more than a few others are getting as well. You are a small pool of punters who can be linked to the review and getting outed.

All one can do if confronted is deny, deny, deny.

And yes, your point on holding off on reviews until time to move on and in my experience that happens earlier than you think as the working lady population is transient. Also if you do not plan to go back its fine to review. As you say the sharing is still occuring on UKP, just deferred. Good advice.

I have written up a bunch of more reviews but given the near date of the bookings, these will have to sit in my "to be posted" folder when I think sufficient time has elapsed or she has moved on or I have moved on. Of course subject to the 6 month of punt window for reviews.

W

Offline Mstar86

Just leave more time after the punt before reviewing…..!?

Offline Wayfarer

Somewhere along the line this thread seems to have morphed from avoiding giving any information which could identify you to giving information regarding certain services?
Hi Doc Holliday, the part about giving information regarding specific services is that mentioning it means the girl can identify you. This links that theme to avoiding giving any information that could identify you. Just as you mention in your anecdote below of the girl taking your semen in her mouth that if you report this then I know its you and you are outed.

Anyway with regard to the former, identification may not be just based on your review content, but on your other posts. In other discussions you may give some details about your personal life which match what you have said to the SP.

While the SP themselves may not have a UKP account with settings allowing them to search your other posts, they may well have a white knight to do it on their behalf. There are likely to be vastly more members who will do this than you would think ... and despite denials.

You just have to be careful with personal identifying information full stop.

With regard to the latter topic of certain services I fondly remember a female version of Liam Neeson in ‘Taken’

If you put that in a review, I will find you and I will kill you” she said …. as my semen dribbled out of her mouth.
You are right on other identifying information or personal traits mentioned in other posts. If the whole history of posts are put together then a girl can connect that its you. I just played back a conversation I had with an escort and then looked at a review and realised what I talked to her about was mentioned in someone else's review. It was really unique and specific and she remembers as she loved it and wanted to know more and to share her experiences with me. Looking at my post history will bring those examples up.

W
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Hi webpunter,

I agree with you totally. I do dip into the massage scene, but more for the massage than the extras available which I find more suited to an escort. However, I do get the analogy. You do not want to be outing yourself by mentioning a service that maybe no one else or more probably, more than a few others are getting as well. You are a small pool of punters who can be linked to the review and getting outed.

All one can do if confronted is deny, deny, deny.

And yes, your point on holding off on reviews until time to move on and in my experience that happens earlier than you think as the working lady population is transient. Also if you do not plan to go back its fine to review. As you say the sharing is still occuring on UKP, just deferred. Good advice.

I have written up a bunch of more reviews but given the near date of the bookings, these will have to sit in my "to be posted" folder when I think sufficient time has elapsed or she has moved on or I have moved on. Of course subject to the 6 month of punt window for reviews.

W

 :hi:
The xtras pool of punters is likely to be larger than most think it is
It could ebb & flow as punters visit do repeat sessions & then move on, to be replaced by new ones
Its rare that i see a massage burd more than 4 or 5 visits, mostly 2 or 3
I liken it to climbing Mount Everest the first stage is base camp then onwards & upwards
Once you've got to the top a few times its time to find a new mountain
Perhaps with different challenges along the way [now how do i get my 'crampon' into that crevice ?  :D]
Its all part of the fun of our fave sport
Also the massage burds move where they are working
& new opportunities arise, variety is the spice ...

Thanks to being on here i've substantially almost knocked negatives / neutrals on the head
Tho its good to head out on a reccy patrol when nowt on here or even mixed reporting, the magic door moment etc
VulvaS burds a prime example - like a box of chocolates you never know what you gonna get
Should one of these [grey / red] happen i look to review much quicker keeping to the basics highlighting whats not so good sharing etc

As posted by @Mstar86 leaving more time sound advice
Brought into focus with this thread

Offline Thephoenix

Being members of UKP we're expected to post reviews.
Some may be reluctant to post negatives or neutral reviews for a variety of reasons, such as not wanting to upset the SP, or fear of the possible consequences.
However, arguably negative reviews are more important to members.

By following all the advice, you reduce the risk of being suspected by a SP of being her detractor, but if you punt long enough there's always the chance that may happen.

Phone calls and messages not being answered, no availability etc, are often the signs you've been shunned, and there's always the risk there may be more serious consequences.

We need to be careful.
However our reviews are posted to help other members.
That should be our primary objective.





« Last Edit: September 04, 2025, 12:38:42 am by Thephoenix »

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However, arguably negative reviews are more important to members.

Deffo, the ones to pay attention to & these stacking up is a non starter
Prior to revised subject line criteria stuff like 'avoid like the plague' / 'one of the worst i've ever had' as typical examples & its instant move on dodge the bullet phew TFFT
Best thing to do is to shift this to the top of the review & it stands out
TOFTT which turns out to be negative to be commended  :hi: