Propositioning a Woman you’d like to punt

[jamiekinkxxx]

Again, we keep treating women like they don’t have their own agency. Whether you’re a stranger or a boyfriend or girlfriend or whoever, I have the right to do research about you using whatever information you give me. What I do after is where it falls into circumstance and not every single instance is illegal. I struggle to grasp how puntingking’s recount isn’t a direct comparison.
I can’t speak on the other threads because I wasn’t here to see them. As for morals, people tend to set the bar wherever they want. My moral standards would prevent me from cheating on my wife if I were married, whereas some here wouldn’t give it a second thought and actively engage in that culture. But I wouldn’t put myself in an ivory tower in order to criticize anyone if they promoted that they did. That’s my point of contention here. It’s offensive to call someone a creep and a stalker.

But I have no more to add, because I must also agree with puntingking again where he says: Opinions are opinions. No one is wrong and no one is right.

BUT you are a wrong'n 

[DastardlyDick]

"because the way she was dressed she was also "asking for it" too? "
Isn't that what rapists used to say as some sort of defence?
Before a 'pile on' starts, I'm not calling anyone a rapist.

SPa have the right to a private life.

[puntingking]

But if a woman approach me at a bar and ask me "do you want me to go to your room for some fun?" that is not creepy to society we in. I don't think it should be creepy if a man also approach a woman and ask the same question.
 

[ratedj]

maybe its because of men like you that many younger women feel like the do - some of my Seeking young ladies when they go out with a couple of their girl friends for a dance and chat, go to gay clubs - not because they are gay (they are not) but so that they don't get hassled by guys all night. also they have told me that they contstantly get hassled / tried to be chatted up wherever they are - even in airports etc and get asked for their number, when i said why not just say "no thanks " and don't give your number they said because some guys then get aggressive and or abusive . so i said give a false number but no, they said in front of them and dial it then to make sure it works!

So whilst you think "i didn't force her to give me her number" maybe she felt she had it otherwise the situation might have got nasty.

To hone in on this part, while I understand that you are going off what you have been informed by your Seeking young ladies there will always be diverging experiences. I totally acknowledge that some guys do not know how to act around women and can quickly turn aggressive or abusive once their advances are rejected, but there is nothing wrong with approaching women, as long as you do so in a polite, relaxed manner and you are socially aware, allowing them to engage and make decisions based on their intuition and the interaction. I know some girls who say they miss being approached in public. I've approached girls on the street, in stores, in the tube station and at bars/clubs. Again, it's just about being socially aware (i.e. time of day, area) as well as how you carry yourself. From how Sammathy has described it, it is plausible that his engagement with the lady was reciprocated and that she did give her number of her own volition. Regarding everything else, everyone has opinions, and this is no doubt one of those whereby some won't see a problem with his subsequent actions, while others will deem it totally unacceptable and attach certain labels to it. It is what it is.

[puntingking]

"because the way she was dressed she was also "asking for it" too? "
Isn't that what rapists used to say as some sort of defence?
Before a 'pile on' starts, I'm not calling anyone a rapist.

SPa have the right to a private life.

no one is saying that they are not 

But what a punter do in the privacy of his home to search for anyone online whether that is a sex worker or a civvie has no relevance to the outside world to worry about or to kick up a fuss.

[myothernameis]

I don't think it should be creepy if a man also approach a woman and ask the same question.
 

That's what night clubs & disco's are for, for picking up women, and how many of us, have picked up some right mingers 

[stampjones]

Seems to me the usual overreaction by the usual suspects on here who do like a bit of moral indignation.

Seems to me the OP met a woman on a train and suspected she might be an SP. So he searched on AW for her using the info he had. I assume that’s all he did. Havent read all the posts as the holier than thou crap bores me. But assuming that the story is just that, then there were two possible outcomes. One she is indeed an SP then she has a new customer and everyone is happy. Had she not wanted to see him at that point she could have said though why would she turn away business (assuming the OP was in fact normal). Effectively he is just another punter who has come across her ad. Potential outcome 2, he doesnt find her. Assuming he doesnt then start searching IG, linked in, etc then end of story. What exactly is the problem there?

[JontyR]

To add to what you’ve said, I met a woman on the train last year who was clearly an SP of some form. Skimpy outfit, suitcase and an air of confidence you never see in normal ladies.

Normal ladies?

I sat across from her and asked what she did. She insisted that she was a carer to which we eventually both laughed at because of my reactions. I took her number down but got the silent treatment after trying to engage later.

What were these reactions? That you couldn't believe she was a carer? OR that you did- as you seem to suggest infer that she was a sex worker.

If this were the case - would you have made such a suggestion if she was there with a friend, a child, a parental figure or a partner?

Out of curiosity, I put in as much as I knew about her into AW’s search tool, and she actually came up. Booked in the day after and was happy to find out, when I arrived, that it was actually her. I asked her why she didn’t admit to being monetized on the train, and she said because I don’t look like the type of person who would pay to see her and that guys who find out normally can’t handle it and try to “save” her.
My deducement: did you just see a girl that you think escorts? Have a normal conversation with her and ask her detailed questions. Later, search her up on AW with the answers she gives and book in with the SP who has the closest-looking photos to the girl you met earlier. It’s probably actually her.

I'd just wonder what kind of reaction it would get on here if you had have posted...."I met this girl on the train and would you beleive it she has now PM'd me on UKP having put in some search terms". Everyone would be fucking horrified and rightly so.

I've seen SPs in public. I haven't approached them, because it would be highly inappropriate to do so.

You seem to have made the engagement on the off chance she was a SP.

Then instead of, when being called out, detailing that some of the nuance has been lost in an attempt at brevity - you seem to double down. Detailing that you enquired as to the exact size of her tits amongst other things.

I did detail that if you had tried to just chat her up then big ups to you. (respectful caveats included) But that isn't the vibe you are handing out. Coupling with the venue and how you chose to sit opposite doesn't halp your case any.

The vibe you are portraying just makes me wonder 2 things...

1. How often do you get punched in public?
2. Do you have to wear any kind of electronic tag?

[puntingking]

That's what night clubs & disco's are for, for picking up women, and how many of us, have picked up some right mingers 

this same standard you hold, should then be the same for women but I doubt it is.
If a woman came up to you and ask you outright for sex, all your morals will go out of the window and you would just go with the woman. 

[puntingking]

I'd just wonder what kind of reaction it would get on here if you had have posted...."I met this girl on the train and would you beleive it she has now PM'd me on UKP having put in some search terms". Everyone would be fucking horrified and rightly so.

But that would not happen. There would be no reason why a sp would do that 

But there is a reason why a man would ask a woman on the street, there is also a reason why a man would serach up a woman on adult work.

What kind of reason could there possibly be for a sp to PM a ukp member on here 

[Doc Holliday]

Of course it can be common for them to lie, but that would have only meant that I never ended up meeting her. I would’ve just met a girl who matched the data. What’s wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that. That is almost certainly what would have happened. That is my point. Probability law, in particular due to the potential inaccuracies of the input data, means the chances of you finding this woman on an AW search are exceedingly low.

Even if your perception she was an escort was accurate, she may not even have even had a profile on AW, something you yourself have highlighted

Most models are covertly escorting. I think guys sometimes underestimate the amount of in-person negotiations that take place. A girl I've had paid meets with recently, has appeared to have 0 trace on escort sites despite the amount of researching and paid reverse image searching I've done using photos from her IG.

My position is not moralistic but one of struggling to see how your account of finding her could be truthful.

That aside your post is tangential to the thread title. Would you find it acceptable if during your train meeting conversation you had asked her if she would have sex with you for money?

[Doc Holliday]

But that would not happen. There would be no reason why a sp would do that 

It was a hypothetical scenario. In fact SPs cannot PM other members unless that member has made first contact

What kind of reason could there possibly be for a sp to PM a ukp member on here 

Assuming it is technically possible, then there can be many reasons including touting (which is one reason why there is a UKP restriction)

[Watts.E.Dunn]

But the behavouir of some men beggars belif! On the news was a case of a woman who was on an overnight Emerates flight and the 60 odd year old creep sitting next to her pulled a blanket over both of them and i on the charge sheet was assult by penetration with his hand, anyway he's now doing time, shes shocked and says she not needs profsssional help and is claiming from the airline...

[puntingking]

But the behavouir of some men beggars belif! On the news was a case of a woman who was on an overnight Emerates flight and the 60 odd year old creep sitting next to her pulled a blanket over both of them and i on the charge sheet was assult by penetration with his hand, anyway he's now doing time, shes shocked and says she not needs profsssional help and is claiming from the airline...

how is this got to do with asking a woman on the street for sexual favours?

She was a victim of a crime, the man deserved to be locked up. There is no comparison here. If you want to talk about that case then start a new thread as it doesn't relate to this.


By the way, Bonnie blue ask a young 18 year old boy for sex on a public street in one of her videos for only fans last year. There was no mention on locking her up and she was not even spoken to about that.

Double standards between the genders I fear. 

[puntingking]

It was a hypothetical scenario. In fact SPs cannot PM other members unless that member has made first contact

Assuming it is technically possible, then there can be many reasons including touting (which is one reason why there is a UKP restriction)

so why did he mention a scenerio that in reality cannot happen? 
That was pointless.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Nah Punting king, dosent need a new thread it was just about male behaviour which it seems is geting worse overall so i hear  from a lot of sources...

[puntingking]

Nah Punting king, dosent need a new thread it was just about male behaviour which it seems is geting worse overall so i hear  from a lot of sources...

I agree behaviour is getting worse. But I think it is getting worse across the board with both men and women.
I notice this all the time from the milder things to the more severe things.
I see alot of female child abusers on the news now like I every did way before covid era.
But even the milder stuff, less people are polite to eachother and it is all about "me,me,me".
If someone is helping the homeless they want to be filmed so that other people know they are a "good person".

People are much worse now than they ever was. I am not sure why that is.

However, there are still alot of good people around but the bad ones are more naturally noisier.
There should be a news channel dedicated in celebrating good news stories such as miracles in peoples lives and heroic stories. I would love that 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Yes PK i think i would agree with a lot of that!...

[MLawro93]

I agree behaviour is getting worse. But I think it is getting worse across the board with both men and women.
I notice this all the time from the milder things to the more severe things.
I see alot of female child abusers on the news now like I every did way before covid era.
But even the milder stuff, less people are polite to eachother and it is all about "me,me,me".
If someone is helping the homeless they want to be filmed so that other people know they are a "good person".

People are much worse now than they ever was. I am not sure why that is.

However, there are still alot of good people around but the bad ones are more naturally noisier.
There should be a news channel dedicated in celebrating good news stories such as miracles in peoples lives and heroic stories. I would love that 

Agree that society as a whole has gotten more self-centred, but the abusers were always there, and in numbers. It was just underreported, brushed under the carpet, or just generally accepted.

Good people always exist and good things happen constantly, but that doesn't equate to more money for media, who thrive on negativity, so the day-to-day reality looks worse than it actually is.

[Doc Holliday]

so why did he mention a scenerio that in reality cannot happen? 
That was pointless.

He was trying to demonstrate a principle using a hypothetical example. That there are technical limitations related to UKP as the example chosen is irrelevant to the principle. Many other online platforms are available.

[Thephoenix]

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but on the countless train journeys I've been on over many years, I can't ever recall seeing an abnormal woman, who's obviously a SP.

What do they look like?

Do many of them travel by train in skimpy outfits?
Was this lady travelling between shags? Whizzing up and down in the crowded carriages of Avanti West Coast? Powdering her nose, applying her lipstick and mascara with the aid of her little Chanel compact mirror?

All the outcall SPs I've encountered have been dressed fairly modestly so as not to attract attention, and as far as I know they've been normal women. (Apart from some of the dodgy transvestites )
None of them have travelled by train.

At my age I can get away with chatting to anyone,  but I'm not sure I'd be considering asking if they were sex workers and how big their tits were.
Maybe it's a generational thing, but I think I'll stick to the weather.






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[Vice Admiral]

By the way, Bonnie blue ask a young 18 year old boy for sex on a public street in one of her videos for only fans last year. There was no mention on locking her up and she was not even spoken to about that.

Surely this wasn't illegal?  Unless the egregious Ms Blue offered him money to have sex with her.

As others have implied earlier in this thread, asking for sexual favours does not appear to be an offence per se.  It depends on the circumstances and the manner of the approach.  If, for example, the asker persists after the other person has made clear that the approach is unwelcome, then it's sexual harassment.

In other words, my understanding is that if Ms Blue stopped me in the street and asked for a fuck just once, then no offence would have been committed.  If she pestered me relentlessly after I declined, she could be hauled up before the beak.

This reminds me of an old anecdote.

Man A:  Whenever I see an attractive woman in the street I ask her if she wants a fuck.

Man B:  You must get an awful lot of rejections.

Man A:  I also get an awful lot of fucking.

[puntingking]

Surely this wasn't illegal?



In other words, my understanding is that if Ms Blue stopped me in the street and asked for a fuck just once, then no offence would have been committed.  If she pestered me relentlessly after I declined, she could be hauled up before the beak.

i try this to a woman next week and see what happens 

[Vice Admiral]

i try this to a woman next week and see what happens 

Excellent!  Do let this thread know how you get on.

If your communication is from HMP Brixton, I'll know that I was mistaken.

But life's a learning curve.  You win some, you lose some.

[southcoastpunter]

In other words, my understanding is that if Ms Blue stopped me in the street and asked for a fuck just once, then no offence would have been committed.  If she pestered me relentlessly after I declined, she could be hauled up before the beak.

actually, it would seem that is not quite accurate. From Google AI:

Sexual harassment is defined as unwanted conduct of a sexual nature that violates someone's dignity or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive environment. It encompasses a range of behaviors, including verbal, non-verbal, and physical actions. Importantly, sexual harassment does not require a specific intent to offend, and it can occur both in person and online.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Key aspects of sexual harassment:
Unwanted conduct: The key element is that the behavior is unwelcome and unsolicited.
Sexual nature: The conduct must be related to sex or sexuality in some way.
Purpose or effect: The conduct must have the purpose or effect of violating someone's dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment.
Examples: Sexual harassment can include unwanted touching, sexual comments, jokes, or advances, displaying or sharing sexually explicit material, and pressuring someone for dates.
Context: It can happen in any setting, including workplaces, educational institutions, and online platforms.
Important considerations:
The harasser may not intend to offend, but their actions still constitute sexual harassment if they create a hostile environment.
Sexual harassment can be a single incident or a pattern of behavior.

[myothernameis]

Key aspects of sexual harassment:
Unwanted conduct: The key element is that the behavior is unwelcome and unsolicited.
Sexual nature: The conduct must be related to sex or sexuality in some way.
Purpose or effect: The conduct must have the purpose or effect of violating someone's dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment.
Examples: Sexual harassment can include unwanted touching, sexual comments, jokes, or advances, displaying or sharing sexually explicit material, and pressuring someone for dates.

Hammersmith & Fullham police force are now targeting these short of behaviors, with fines of up to £1000.  So builder wolf whistling at a group of females might find them self in trouble

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[Vice Admiral]

actually, it would seem that is not quite accurate. From Google AI:

Sexual harassment is defined as unwanted conduct of a sexual nature that violates someone's dignity or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive environment. It encompasses a range of behaviors, including verbal, non-verbal, and physical actions. Importantly, sexual harassment does not require a specific intent to offend, and it can occur both in person and online.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Key aspects of sexual harassment:
Unwanted conduct: The key element is that the behavior is unwelcome and unsolicited.
Sexual nature: The conduct must be related to sex or sexuality in some way.
Purpose or effect: The conduct must have the purpose or effect of violating someone's dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment.
Examples: Sexual harassment can include unwanted touching, sexual comments, jokes, or advances, displaying or sharing sexually explicit material, and pressuring someone for dates.
Context: It can happen in any setting, including workplaces, educational institutions, and online platforms.
Important considerations:
The harasser may not intend to offend, but their actions still constitute sexual harassment if they create a hostile environment.
Sexual harassment can be a single incident or a pattern of behavior.

Oh dear.  I'll have to rethink my whole approach to male / female interaction.

In the meantime, I hope that Punting King will nonetheless go ahead with his "experiment", since the practical is often of more value than the theoretical – as I remember from my 'O' level Physics.

In which I got a 'U'. 

[Doc Holliday]

We have drifted off into different scenarios from the OP.

This was specifically in relation to prostitution and as others have pointed out early in the thread is likely to be illegal under the Sexual Offences Act 2003

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[Doc Holliday]

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but on the countless train journeys I've been on over many years, I can't ever recall seeing an abnormal woman, who's obviously a SP.

What do they look like?

Do many of them travel by train in skimpy outfits?

All the outcall SPs I've encountered have been dressed fairly modestly so as not to attract attention,

Yes the norm is to travel casually to blend in and not raise suspicion



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[puntingking]

Excellent!  Do let this thread know how you get on.

If your communication is from HMP Brixton, I'll know that I was mistaken.

But life's a learning curve.  You win some, you lose some.

I was being sarcastic. I would think a guy who does this would be arrested but a woman won't be. 

[puntingking]

Bonnie Blue is evidence 

[sparkus]

Hammersmith & Fullham police force are now targeting these short of behaviors, with fines of up to £1000.  So builder wolf whistling at a group of females might find them self in trouble

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This is good, it makes it clear there's no grey area.  Street harassment sucks and is actually painful to watch.  To some extent I think a lot of men doing it just need help, they've formed a sick worldview of entitlement.  The thing is, they don't see themselves as perpetrators of any form, more just gifted at psychology and not willing to allow opportunities to pass them by.

People often say, how would you feel if this was your wife, sister or daughter? Both my OH and sister have plenty of experience of it, people sitting next to them on empty trains and "just want to chat" etc. then get abusive when ignored or told no.  Apparently there's no right answer to "Have you got a boyfriend?"

I've seen self-styled PUAs in action in central London, they target attractive but more vulnerable young women (anyone who looks assertive is swerved, not least as a slap or kick in the balls is likely to follow).  If you stand bored outside (or even inside) a women's clothes shop waiting for your OH to buy something you might see it.  The security guard had to intervene once and even then the guy wouldn't back off.  After all, he's paid a fortune for all those tips on videos from some smarmy twat.  As I say, vulnerable men in their own right.

I had (I guess still have) a friend who was remarkably adept at getting women's numbers or even a coffee date there and then followed by sex from street encounters like bus stops or Starbucks queues.  Wasn't even that good looking (he's definitely dad bod now) but he just managed to make them smile with a remark or joke in a shared space and took it from there.  I saw it in action a couple of times, no denying his charm or skill.  Even then, he was doing this in shared space and they were free to ignore his one liners, so not harassment for dates as such.

It'll be interesting to see what this yields in terms of punishments and if the offenders engage with any treatment offered.

[sparkus]

Yes the norm is to travel casually to blend in and not raise suspicion



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If you travel on trains in East London on a Saturday afternoon they're full of women like this or even less en route to various tacky events.

[sparkus]

 

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[puntingking]

Yes the norm is to travel casually to blend in and not raise suspicion



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and yet TFL says men are not allowd to stare at women on the train.
It is human nature to stare at beautiful women with not much clothes on 

[puntingking]

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As the inbetweeners used to say "Find them, frenchy em, get em frothy, finger em, frig em, film em, flange em, flick em, fanny fart em, fuck em, frottum, fist em, felch em, finish with them and finally forget about them." 

[Mr Sinister]

maybe its because of men like you that many younger women feel like the do - some of my Seeking young ladies when they go out with a couple of their girl friends for a dance and chat, go to gay clubs - not because they are gay (they are not) but so that they don't get hassled by guys all night.

They should not be invading gay spaces, hetero women act terrible in gay clubs, I've had gay mates that have been fondled by women its not cool at all, also hetero women reacting badly to being hit on by lesbian women. People of the LGBTQ community are fed up with straight people taking up a space that was meant for them and not respecting their environment especially since there's only a limited amount of gay/queer spaces.


Back on topic of OPs post, everyone has a price you need to understand the dynamics, context, situation etc....you can't just go up to some random woman in public and try to proposition them. But I do know from my experiences there are regular women down to be propositioned over social media/dating apps again not something you just go wading into.

[Doc Holliday]

If you travel on trains in East London on a Saturday afternoon they're full of women like this or even less en route to various tacky events.

I'm sure there are, but my point was very few (if any) of them are likely to be escorts 

[southcoastpunter]

They should not be invading gay spaces, hetero women act terrible in gay clubs, I've had gay mates that have been fondled by women its not cool at all, also hetero women reacting badly to being hit on by lesbian women. People of the LGBTQ community are fed up with straight people taking up a space that was meant for them and not respecting their environment especially since there's only a limited amount of gay/queer spaces.

maybe you are missing my point which was it was a defensive move by them because of constant hassle and attention from guys. so by doing that, it gives them some peace / space too. as they do this when they want a dance and chat between them, they do not hit on or fondle as you say gay guys. Most young people these days have a mix of straight, bi and gay friends so know how to interact / behave within the gay community.

and wasn't sure if you agreed with the comment "everyone has their price" or not -  i disagree with that.   

[Doc Holliday]

Back on topic of OPs post, everyone has a price you need to understand the dynamics, context, situation etc....you can't just go up to some random woman in public and try to proposition them. But I do know from my experiences there are regular women down to be propositioned over social media/dating apps again not something you just go wading into.

Probably not everyone but I think that is a good brief summary of the reality.

Some older NW punters may recall, around two decades ago, a high profile regional punting forum member, who contacted women on an early social media platform (intended for socialising) but which became notorious for casual sex hook ups.

As a result he identified female members who were clearly looking for sex and suggested they may want to consider a financial arrangement? Among the many rejections and inevitable complaints he did successfully introduce a number of women to the local scene, a couple of whom became extremely popular.

I personally was to benefit from his endeavours

[Belgarion]

Following on from women we wish were escorts, everyday we see women we’d love to punt at work on public transport and so on.
Has anyone risked their neck and had any joy in asking an attractive woman if she’s got a price and she’d be willing and being as polite as you can about it. A WG once said when other girls have found out what she does they’ve admitted that they’ve done it and would do so again

Why not do this and tell us how it goes OP?

[puntingking]

Bloody hell this is wrong on so many levels.

No flirty banter, no context, no prelude. Just cold approach and insulting an innocent women who’s minding her business……


Throw away the key

Well that would be a Complete over reaction   

[Mr Sinister]

maybe you are missing my point which was it was a defensive move by them because of constant hassle and attention from guys. so by doing that, it gives them some peace / space too. as they do this when they want a dance and chat between them, they do not hit on or fondle as you say gay guys. Most young people these days have a mix of straight, bi and gay friends so know how to interact / behave within the gay community.

and wasn't sure if you agreed with the comment "everyone has their price" or not -  i disagree with that.

I get it, maybe they need to review the type of bars they are visiting and the clientele, not every bar is full of thirsty guys hitting on women 24/7. If they feel like they're being overtly harassed they can always talk to a bar member and security. People mix but I also hear a lot from my gay/derogatory term removed friends that they've had enough of drunk proesseco princesses

Probably not everyone but I think that is a good brief summary of the reality.

Some older NW punters may recall, around two decades ago, a high profile regional punting forum member, who contacted women on an early social media platform (intended for socialising) but which became notorious for casual sex hook ups.

As a result he identified female members who were clearly looking for sex and suggested they may want to consider a financial arrangement? Among the many rejections and inevitable complaints he did successfully introduce a number of women to the local scene, a couple of whom became extremely popular.

I personally was to benefit from his endeavours

Civvy women selling sex on the sly has always been around, you just have to know where to look. Even 10+ years ago you could get a HJ/BJ off personal adds on gumtree

[FaciallyChallenged]

I was in Stratford station last weekend for punting purposes coincidentally. I walked past two women quickly one said to me "oh hello" and then said to her friend, "I think he likes your dress," and the other one chuckled.

Maybe instead of feeling embarrassed and quickly vacating the area I should have flipped it on them and asked how much? 

[puntingking]

Even 10+ years ago you could get a HJ/BJ off personal adds on gumtree

ah yes the good old days. Also, alot of the time it was dead cheap. 

[big-al93]

I was in Stratford station last weekend for punting purposes coincidentally. I walked past two women quickly one said to me "oh hello" and then said to her friend, "I think he likes your dress," and the other one chuckled.

Maybe instead of feeling embarrassed and quickly vacating the area I should have flipped it on them and asked how much? 

Not how much? Maybe something along the lines of yes you do like her dress, you think it'd look great on your bedroom floor. 

[chandlerhandler]

Following on from women we wish were escorts, everyday we see women we’d love to punt at work on public transport and so on.
Has anyone risked their neck and had any joy in asking an attractive woman if she’s got a price and she’d be willing and being as polite as you can about it. A WG once said when other girls have found out what she does they’ve admitted that they’ve done it and would do so again

flipping it round, how would you react if a Gay service seeking man found you attractive & asked you how much you'd be willing to take it up the ass for 

[sparkus]

Civvy women selling sex on the sly has always been around, you just have to know where to look. Even 10+ years ago you could get a HJ/BJ off personal adds on gumtree

Oh to be able to go back to then 

Quite comical to think back to how blatant it was too, a girl posted a pic of her gash and I was inside it in less than an hour.

[puntingking]

flipping it round, how would you react if a Gay service seeking man found you attractive & asked you how much you'd be willing to take it up the ass for 

I would actually say "no" and wouldn't get offended. So many women it appears would get offended by this very question, men would not (in general) 

[myothernameis]

flipping it round, how would you react if a Gay service seeking man found you attractive & asked you how much you'd be willing to take it up the ass for 

In my 30 yr's in my youth, I have had a similar request, from two gay persons, and they both accepted my reply no thanks.

Working on a building site, and one of the apprentices, was openly gay, and joked about his life.  He knew I wasn't seeing anyone, and asked me, would I like to join him, and some of his mates on a night out, which I said no

Other offer, was from a older customer, who asked me would I like to join him, in a two week summer holiday, in Spain.  He was offering to pay for my holiday, and look after me, but I hardly knew they guy, so said no.   Found out from other male workmates, they had the same request, from the same person, and overall he was a nice person, but we guess lonely at times