Quality has gone down?

[Stevelondon]

I’m obviously not a people then 🤷🏼

[Mstar86]

I’m obviously not a people then 🤷🏼

Haha I’m sorry and you mate You said it best as it’s the “never ending” question and I did really agree with wages / careers not keeping up with “shagging inflation”

Just so much that has to be considered

[Thehatedone]

Im new here
but have been dipping in and out of punting since 2016
Cant speak on what it was like before that

But personally no
my HL is bigger than ever
Some of my GOATs have hung up their heels
No ones quite filled their shoes since
but thats just how the game goes

Are the girls around now any less attractive than back then?
Not at all

Theyre pricier
But everythings gone up
Its not just punting

And Im honestly surprised how many very hot ladies are still opting for escorting over OF or cam work

Maybe wed see more out there if those other lanes didnt exist
But even with them theres still more than enough around..for now

[Stevelondon]

Haha I’m sorry and you mate You said it best as it’s the “never ending” question and I did really agree with wages / careers not keeping up with “shagging inflation”

Just so much that has to be considered

Couldn’t have put it better.

Well. I could cos it’s me. But I agree 

[Stevelondon]

Im new here
but have been dipping in and out of punting since 2016
Cant speak on what it was like before that

But personally no
my HL is bigger than ever
Some of my GOATs have hung up their heels
No ones quite filled their shoes since
but thats just how the game goes

Are the girls around now any less attractive than back then?
Not at all

Theyre pricier
But everythings gone up
Its not just punting

And Im honestly surprised how many very hot ladies are still opting for escorting over OF or cam work

Maybe wed see more out there if those other lanes didnt exist
But even with them theres still more than enough around..for now

That’s the spirit. New blood looking at things with freshness.
Take no notice of all these whiners on her reminiscing, wishing they lived in a different area, earned more money etc etc.

Go forth and shag young man 😂

[salazar]

I suppose we all miss that 11/10 shag we had “back then” and after a disappointing experience we go back ti that wank bank memory so the present seems crap and the past amazing. I do miss, though, Tigerr Juggs and Rebecca More’s profiles as they had a ton of videos with absolute fiith on AW. Tigerr is the one that got away and I never got to meet her…shame.

[Mstar86]

Im new here
but have been dipping in and out of punting since 2016
Cant speak on what it was like before that

But personally no
my HL is bigger than ever
Some of my GOATs have hung up their heels
No ones quite filled their shoes since
but thats just how the game goes

Are the girls around now any less attractive than back then?
Not at all

Theyre pricier
But everythings gone up
Its not just punting

And Im honestly surprised how many very hot ladies are still opting for escorting over OF or cam work

Maybe wed see more out there if those other lanes didnt exist
But even with them theres still more than enough around..for now

I’m similar in that I’ve been dipping my toe in this world for a long time (Amsterdam, Massage Parlours) but only been doing incalls since 2023 so I’m unaware of what it was like even pre covid BUT my multiple HL’s on AW are alive and well and it would take me years to even get through them without adding any more!

I do see LOADS of hot younger UK girls on the webcam part of AW though which does make me think of what it may have been like 10 years ago but I’m very much enjoying the here and now!

[Mstar86]

I suppose we all miss that 11/10 shag we had “back then” and after a disappointing experience we go back ti that wank bank memory so the present seems crap and the past amazing. I do miss, though, Tigerr Juggs and Rebecca More’s profiles as they had a ton of videos with absolute fiith on AW. Tigerr is the one that got away and I never got to meet her…shame.

I’d do anything to have been able to meet Rebecca More, ultimate punt and I’d pay good money to make it happen tbh

[Trex]

I’d do anything to have been able to meet Rebecca More, ultimate punt and I’d pay good money to make it happen tbh

Rebecca More now has sort of past her prime now, recently saw her stuff on X, She got smaller boobs and short hair that doesn’t suit her, she was smoking hot few years ago. I was quite close seeing her back around 2 or 3 years ago, she charge £1,000 hour and wanted £500 deposit. And I turned it down I would pay her £500 hour but 1k is too much for sex and I had more options aswell.

[puntingking]

I do see LOADS of hot younger UK girls on the webcam part of AW though which does make me think of what it may have been like 10 years ago but I’m very much enjoying the here and now!

Webcam sex does nothing to me I'm afraid. 

[puntingking]

I suppose we all miss that 11/10 shag we had “back then”

There are still plenty of 11/10 sessions to be had in London, Maybe less than back in the day but still plenty around 

[Mr Sinister]

the other factor to take into account in terms of assessing todays quality against quality say 10 years ago is our own expectations and preferences. Has our expectation changed as we get older and more experienced? has our preferences changed over time ? for example amongst the younger generation far more of them are getting covered in tattoo's , getting fake boobs, getting fake lips and asses and this also applies to WG's. Personally i hate it so for me i would find less ladies now appealing to me because of a shift in society "norms". Also as a group, as we get older, we seem to think that practically everything isn't as good as it used to be!!!

However, as i have said before, the scene is what it is - make it work for you, go abroad if you think its any better or give up! Moaning about it, prices etc etc changes nothing!

For my preferences and type, quality and options has gone down since the way it was 8-10 years ago. Even recently the activity in some of the threads I frequent here is a ghost town.

Punting will never go back to what is was back then, so yes you're best looking at different markets abroad or doing something like seeking/paid civvies route.

[Gentlelovemaking]

I do think we often romanticise the past which is why some say the quality has gone down, no different to the older generation complaining about the younger generation along with saying music used to be better in the 90’s etc

In my opinion there are far more attractive women to punt than 10 years ago. Price has gone up which is an objective reality.

I’d challenge anyone to consider their best year of punting and think about why it was such a good year. I’d say there would be factors which don’t relate to the general quality of the market that made it such a good year (like the new car effect…….just starting punting).

[puntingking]

I do think we often romanticise the past which is why some say the quality has gone down, no different to the older generation complaining about the younger generation along with saying music used to be better in the 90’s etc

In my opinion there are far more attractive women to punt than 10 years ago. Price has gone up which is an objective reality.

I’d challenge anyone to consider their best year of punting and think about why it was such a good year. I’d say there would be factors which don’t relate to the general quality of the market that made it such a good year (like the new car effect…….just starting punting).

Maybe punters who look back consider the years of 10 to 12 years ago was better but purely because the price was much lower so what they saying is they could't believe how good the sps were for the price they used to pay. Just a thought 

Sometimes being very good VFM makes the experience worth while and more enjoyable 
Maybe thats why many punters like to relive and reminisce the years back then 

[Gentlelovemaking]

Maybe punters who look back consider the years of 10 to 12 years ago was better but purely because the price was much lower so what they saying is they could't believe how good the sps were for the price they used to pay. Just a thought 

Sometimes being very good VFM makes the experience worth while and more enjoyable 
Maybe thats why many punters like to relive and reminisce the years back then 

The cost of living has gone up considerably so reminiscing on VFM makes a lot of sense. I’d also agree VFM makes the experience much better. I can distinctly remember punting Big Batty Ivy, Sweet Saucy Stacy and Sexy Caroline 1 and being gobsmaked at how good VFM they were at the time.

What I would say is that similar and better quality SP’s have become available since and I’ve indulged in them. Therefore the quality hasn’t gone donw. Imo it’s more the prospect of finding a Gem that’s VFM which is difficult but finding a gem is rarely an easy task (Seeking has some but admittedly requires some serious graft and or luck).

[Jay078]

Plenty of British girls you say, I can't find one decent looking British girl in her early 20s
Please point me towards one

[Gentlelovemaking]

Plenty of British girls you say, I can't find one decent looking British girl in her early 20s
Please point me towards one

I didn’t say British but if you insist

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[Mstar86]

I didn’t say British but if you insist

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3 already on my HL and now 3 more added!! Research is key in this game, maybe it gets harder as time goes by but this is definitely a good selection of British here to start from

[Mr Sinister]

The cost of living has gone up considerably so reminiscing on VFM makes a lot of sense. I’d also agree VFM makes the experience much better. I can distinctly remember punting Big Batty Ivy, Sweet Saucy Stacy and Sexy Caroline 1 and being gobsmaked at how good VFM they were at the time.

What I would say is that similar and better quality SP’s have become available since and I’ve indulged in them. Therefore the quality hasn’t gone donw. Imo it’s more the prospect of finding a Gem that’s VFM which is difficult but finding a gem is rarely an easy task (Seeking has some but admittedly requires some serious graft and or luck).

There was a lot more on the market back then in terms of price brackets and type. On AW you could search girls working 60ph and it would throw up 2-3 pages worth of prossies of course inflation, prices has changed.

Or if I was searching for a prossie with massive chebs there was so much on offer as you had Polish girls as standard amongst the Hungarians. Majority of Polish girls have gone home or to another European country. Sexy Caroline was one of my faves, was way ahead of the game in terms of body type and luckily managed to punt her a load before she disappeared.

[Gentlelovemaking]

There was a lot more on the market back then in terms of price brackets and type. On AW you could search girls working 60ph and it would throw up 2-3 pages worth of prossies of course inflation, prices has changed.

Or if I was searching for a prossie with massive chebs there was so much on offer as you had Polish girls as standard amongst the Hungarians. Majority of Polish girls have gone home or to another European country. Sexy Caroline was one of my faves, was way ahead of the game in terms of body type and luckily managed to punt her a load before she disappeared.

£100 in 2015 (10 years ago) in worth around £140 on today’s money And is what sexy Caroline 1 was charging but she was based in Uxbridge and she was around 45 years old and kind natured so just didn’t charge much. When she left the game she was charging around £150 plus extras.

I do think we romantise seeing SP’s for £60/he as a lot of them were working for someone (Big Batty Ivy and Sweet Saucy Stacy) and we’re new to the game so we’re just trying to make money and oblivious to their market value. Once they realised their prices went up.

Back to the Original topic, quality has not gone down it’s gone up if anything. What is harder to find is good quality talent at bargain prices. Finding High quality low cost SP’s is tough nowadays but not unobtainable. At the £200/hr mark gems do exist.

[Jay078]

I didn’t say British but if you insist

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Thanks mate, Talia is the one I like but 1000 pounds is out of my budget

[Gentlelovemaking]

Thanks mate, Talia is the one I like but 1000 pounds is out of my budget

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She used to be independent and charge less, I reviewed her a while ago.

She’s genuinely beautiful, got talking etc and she a bona fida model, I wasn’t surprised when she told me this but also had a look at a lot of her published work.

[Mr Sinister]

£100 in 2015 (10 years ago) in worth around £140 on today’s money And is what sexy Caroline 1 was charging but she was based in Uxbridge and she was around 45 years old and kind natured so just didn’t charge much. When she left the game she was charging around £150 plus extras.

I do think we romantise seeing SP’s for £60/he as a lot of them were working for someone (Big Batty Ivy and Sweet Saucy Stacy) and we’re new to the game so we’re just trying to make money and oblivious to their market value. Once they realised their prices went up.

Back to the Original topic, quality has not gone down it’s gone up if anything. What is harder to find is good quality talent at bargain prices. Finding High quality low cost SP’s is tough nowadays but not unobtainable. At the £200/hr mark gems do exist.

At one point Sexy Caroline was charging 70ph in Hillingdon, I remember going to the flat to see another girl at the time before her prices went up. Quite a common occurrence back then was wg coming into the game at low prices before they got popular and increased them

[sammathy]

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She used to be independent and charge less, I reviewed her a while ago.

She’s genuinely beautiful, got talking etc and she a bona fida model, I wasn’t surprised when she told me this but also had a look at a lot of her published work.

Most models are covertly escorting. I think guys sometimes underestimate the amount of in-person negotiations that take place. A girl I've had paid meets with recently, has appeared to have 0 trace on escort sites despite the amount of researching and paid reverse image searching I've done using photos from her IG.

[Gentlelovemaking]

Most models are covertly escorting. I think guys sometimes underestimate the amount of in-person negotiations that take place. A girl I've had paid meets with recently, has appeared to have 0 trace on escort sites despite the amount of researching and paid reverse image searching I've done using photos from her IG.

I know a few “IG” models who escort some advertise and others don’t. I’ve always said to people that given we all know how much things cost it’s unrealistic to believe they’re all able to ain’t sun their current living standards from the money they make from brand deals etc although some do.

[Gentlelovemaking]

At one point Sexy Caroline was charging 70ph in Hillingdon, I remember going to the flat to see another girl at the time before her prices went up. Quite a common occurrence back then was wg coming into the game at low prices before they got popular and increased them

SexyCaroline1 retired almost 10 years ago, she’d worked for many years on and off prior to that and she told me her origin story etc.

she was great value for money but at that time (pre Brexit) there were many EE escorts on the scene who charged lower rates due to labour dynamics at the time which gets totally overlooked in the VFM debate. “Top Tier” British SP’s being good VFM has always been rare

[Stevelondon]

There are still plenty of 11/10 sessions to be had in London, Maybe less than back in the day but still plenty around 

I think maybe “Back in the day” is one of those phrases we make with a sigh.
Someone mentioned reminiscing.

Was it better back in the day. Price, service, quality etc.

I’m not so sure. In fact I might just disagree and I go back to the days of phone cards, contact mags, The Daily Sport, street walkers, Soho walk ups…. How the hell did we punt before the internet and mobile phones made it so much more easier and accessible. ?

[schlong118118]

£100 in 2015 (10 years ago) in worth around £140 on today’s money And is what sexy Caroline 1 was charging but she was based in Uxbridge and she was around 45 years old and kind natured so just didn’t charge much. When she left the game she was charging around £150 plus extras.

I do think we romantise seeing SP’s for £60/he as a lot of them were working for someone (Big Batty Ivy and Sweet Saucy Stacy) and we’re new to the game so we’re just trying to make money and oblivious to their market value. Once they realised their prices went up.

Back to the Original topic, quality has not gone down it’s gone up if anything. What is harder to find is good quality talent at bargain prices. Finding High quality low cost SP’s is tough nowadays but not unobtainable. At the £200/hr mark gems do exist.

defiantly  harder to get good quality at bargain prices. Almost impossible now days. 10 years ago you could have a great time for hour at £80 and many girls didnt add extras on top either.

[schlong118118]

At one point Sexy Caroline was charging 70ph in Hillingdon, I remember going to the flat to see another girl at the time before her prices went up. Quite a common occurrence back then was wg coming into the game at low prices before they got popular and increased them

The good old days  i remember i used to regularly see hungarian cleo for 80ph and polish katy 60ph.  your spot on there mate. they were only increasing price once they built up a solid reputation and earnt their stripes. and you could be confident of having a great time as they would be well reviewed and been round for a while. now wg want top dollar immediately and many got little to no reviews  so it feels like a gamble.

[Sombre0]

The good old days  i remember i used to regularly see hungarian cleo for 80ph and polish katy 60ph.  your spot on there mate. they were only increasing price once they built up a solid reputation and earnt their stripes. and you could be confident of having a great time as they would be well reviewed and been round for a while. now wg want top dollar immediately and many got little to no reviews  so it feels like a gamble.

Any idea what happened to Polish Katy? I used to see her regularly when I was working around Stratford a few years back, but stopped visiting once the novelty wore off. I noticed her profile eventually went inactive. I assume she’s stepped away from the scene and retired.

[Gentlelovemaking]

it does seem that the conversation has moved on from a reduction in quality to a fall in VFM.

I’ll stick my neck out and say that Brexit and the cost of living crisis is the cause of this sentiment as we don’t have the same level of EE SP’s.

When we did have a lot of EE SP’s their prices were much lower than British girls in general without a fall in attractiveness. British SP’s at low prices who are high quality has always been rare and the lower prices were usually driven by EE SP’s having lower prices so they had to remain competitive.

People also feel like they are being squeezed in other areas of life so have less disposable income.

Quality however hasn’t fallen it just comes at a higher price and it may be harder to find skilled service providers who don’t make things feel transactional.

[schlong118118]

Any idea what happened to Polish Katy? I used to see her regularly when I was working around Stratford a few years back, but stopped visiting once the novelty wore off. I noticed her profile eventually went inactive. I assume she’s stepped away from the scene and retired.

she started doing less days once or twice a week about 5 years back . then around 2 years ago her profile went inactive and never seen her since. must be retired

[Mstar86]

it does seem that the conversation has moved on from a reduction in quality to a fall in VFM.

I’ll stick my neck out and say that Brexit and the cost of living crisis is the cause of this sentiment as we don’t have the same level of EE SP’s.

When we did have a lot of EE SP’s their prices were much lower than British girls in general without a fall in attractiveness. British SP’s at low prices who are high quality has always been rare and the lower prices were usually driven by EE SP’s having lower prices so they had to remain competitive.

People also feel like they are being squeezed in other areas of life so have less disposable income.

Quality however hasn’t fallen it just comes at a higher price and it may be harder to find skilled service providers who don’t make things feel transactional.

This feels like a really logical take. Especially from reading everything here. People are just pissed they can’t get cheap sex anymore! If money was no object, would they still be complaining about the quality?

VFM I agree if you want those really facially pretty girls then a premium is attached.

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[Sunny]

Any idea what happened to Polish Katy? I used to see her regularly when I was working around Stratford a few years back, but stopped visiting once the novelty wore off. I noticed her profile eventually went inactive. I assume she’s stepped away from the scene and retired.

I have been trying to see Reeka (hungarian mature lady) for a year but no comms or response to any messages. I see on AW her prices are now £200 ph, used to charge £90 ph in Harrow. It's just bizarre most of these eastern European ladies have sort of disappeared or gone off the radar.

[mark3611]

Any idea what happened to Polish Katy? I used to see her regularly when I was working around Stratford a few years back, but stopped visiting once the novelty wore off. I noticed her profile eventually went inactive. I assume she’s stepped away from the scene and retired.

She sadly retired. I last saw her in Nov 2021 when she told me how she only works weekends because she was looking after her granddaughter.

I kept her number for most of 2022  but if i called it just wouldn't connected.  She kept her profile active but with the usual no info displayed.

She was such a great SW.  Gave good head, sucked like a vacuum and loved to receive a CIM.

"Put my cock back in your mouth and suck untill I cum" was the funniets thing I ever said in 69.

[Sombre0]

I have been trying to see Reeka (hungarian mature lady) for a year but no comms or response to any messages. I see on AW her prices are now £200 ph, used to charge £90 ph in Harrow. It's just bizarre most of these eastern European ladies have sort of disappeared or gone off the radar.

Seems to be the pattern with a lot of EE matures either retired, priced themselves out or they are a shell of their old self and service is now terrible.

[Sombre0]

She sadly retired. I last saw her in Nov 2021 when she told me how she only works weekends because she was looking after her granddaughter.

I kept her number for most of 2022  but if i called it just wouldn't connected.  She kept her profile active but with the usual no info displayed.

She was such a great SW.  Gave good head, sucked like a vacuum and loved to receive a CIM.

"Put my cock back in your mouth and suck untill I cum" was the funniets thing I ever said in 69.

Agree on the vacuum point. Thanks for the update.

[sparkus]

I can definitely say the new crop of arrivals from Latinaland this year in London has been very disappointing.

Last year even some 40 quidders batted it out the park either in terms of looks or chests.

This year so far has been pretty much shite.

[WelshClipper]

Great topic, for better or for worse I am in the camp that quality is not much different to 10 years ago. As I have said many times I do not punt locally. I rotate from North West to East Midlands then on to West Midlands and London, finally the south east. I have also dabbled in other areas, remember sticky Nicky in Paisley 

My modus operandi means that a lot can change between visits. I only went to Leicester once last year but I took in Doncaster for the first time to great success.

My point. I often have to re familiarise myself with the talent, who’s arrived, who’s left etc etc. I used to be a member of old admins Uk** site and the more recent Escort** and so got to know some escorts really well. Now it’s more a matter of doing AW searches, ukpunting reviews and creating a good old hotlist.

This process is continuous and you do become very familiar with many of the good escorts just by reading and reading and reading. Laborious for some but it pays off in spades and ERGO, I don’t find it any worse that ten years ago.