2025/ 2026 football season

[ratedj]

So Newcastle have released their financial results for the year ending June 2025. Interestingly, it appears that they sold St James’ Park, and the land adjacent to the stadium, to themselves, i.e. another PIF-owned company, also enabling them to book profit. I guess this practice will become the norm in the current climate.

[JohnsonSchlong]

So Newcastle have released their financial results for the year ending June 2025. Interestingly, it appears that they sold St James’ Park, and the land adjacent to the stadium, to themselves, i.e. another PIF-owned company, also enabling them to book profit. I guess this practice will become the norm in the current climate.

And they made such a song and dance about doing everything fairly and not like Manchester City when they came in too

[mr.bluesky]

So Newcastle have released their financial results for the year ending June 2025. Interestingly, it appears that they sold St James’ Park, snd the land adjacent to the stadium, to themselves, i.e. another PIF-owned company, also enabling them to book profit. I guess this practice will become the norm in the current climate.

Probably following Chelsea's business model blueprint 

[Blackpool Rock]

So Newcastle have released their financial results for the year ending June 2025. Interestingly, it appears that they sold St James’ Park, and the land adjacent to the stadium, to themselves, i.e. another PIF-owned company, also enabling them to book profit. I guess this practice will become the norm in the current climate.

If it's within the rules / law then I guess a lot of clubs would / will do the same, I was thinking that the same piece of land / asset could theoretically then be sold back or between companies so that they get to buy it back cheaper and then sell it on again at top dollar but i'm thinking this would fall foul of the rules / law in the same way that excessive prices paid for shirt sponsorship deals was deemed to be wrong 

[daviemac]

And they made such a song and dance about doing everything fairly and not like Manchester City when they came in too

What have they done that is against any rules?   

If you understand the situation it's been done in order to get things in line for either an expansion of St James' Park or a new stadium.

BTW nobody said anything when Ashley sold the land opposite St James' that was owned by Newcastle United for £8 million. The PIF subsequently had to buy it back as without it the stadium couldn't be expanded.

Having said that unlike the PIF with this sale, Ashley didn't sell it to benefit the club, he pocketed the cash.

[JohnsonSchlong]

What have they done that is against any rules?   

If you understand the situation it's been done in order to get things in line for either an expansion of St James' Park or a new stadium.

BTW nobody said anything when Ashley sold the land opposite St James' that was owned by Newcastle United for £8 million. The PIF subsequently had to buy it back as without it the stadium couldn't be expanded.

Having said that unlike the PIF with this sale, Ashley didn't sell it to benefit the club, he pocketed the cash.

It isn't against any rules currently - but it's such a massive loophole that the rules are having to be changed to stop this sort of thing from next season. Supporters of clubs owned by these middle eastern regimes always proclaim that there are no rules being broken but we can all see as clear as day what's going on.

[JohnsonSchlong]

If it's within the rules / law then I guess a lot of clubs would / will do the same, I was thinking that the same piece of land / asset could theoretically then be sold back or between companies so that they get to buy it back cheaper and then sell it on again at top dollar but i'm thinking this would fall foul of the rules / law in the same way that excessive prices paid for shirt sponsorship deals was deemed to be wrong 

Just form two subsidiary companies within the same ownership group controlled by the Saudi Public Investment Fund and sell it back and forth to each other ad infinitum

[ratedj]

What have they done that is against any rules?   

They have potentially breached Uefa’s financial rules.

[daviemac]

They have potentially breached Uefa’s financial rules.

Do you honestly think they would be daft enough to break any rules regarding finances? They've had ample opportunity to ignore financial restraints but haven't, they even sold Eliot Anderson and Yankuba Minteh in order to keep withing the FFP regulation instead of ignoring them an arguing about it later and maybe taking a minor points deduction like other clubs.

The club also undertook the reorganisation of its property holdings and group structure to support future investment in infrastructure, which was accounted for in accordance with FRS102 accounting rules. The 2025 financial results reflect a profit on disposal of £133.2m, which will be slightly adjusted in Financial Year 2026 based on results of a now-concluded Premier League fair market value process.

[ratedj]

Do you honestly think they would be daft enough to break any rules regarding finances? They've had ample opportunity to ignore financial restraints but haven't, they even sold Eliot Anderson and Yankuba Minteh in order to keep withing the FFP regulation instead of ignoring them an arguing about it later and maybe taking a minor points deduction like other clubs.

I know you should never answer a question with a question but here’s another way of looking at it: do you honestly think clubs set out to break financial rules, or do they sometimes end up there by misjudging how those rules are applied? It’s being reported that Newcastle could be subjected to a hefty fine from UEFA as UEFA don’t recognise profit generated by a club selling its stadium to a sister company. Intent isn’t really the point. It’s whether UEFA agree with how the transaction is being accounted for.

[daviemac]

I know you should never answer a question with a question but here’s another way of looking at it: do you honestly think clubs set out to break financial rules, or do they sometimes end up there by misjudging how those rules are applied? It’s being reported that Newcastle could be subjected to a hefty fine from UEFA as UEFA don’t recognise profit generated by a club selling its stadium to a sister company. Intent isn’t really the point. It’s whether UEFA agree with how the transaction is being accounted for.

Some clubs just ignore the financial rules so yes they do set out to break them, so far Newcastle haven't been one of them.

I'm quite sure those in charge of the multi billion dollar PIF have a better idea of their finances and what any regulations are than me so I'll just wait and see what transpires.

[mills_and_bhuna]

When teams had proper names lake Accrington Stanley, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Aton Villa, Preston North End, West Bromwich Albion etc.

So who did you support before 1892 ?

[mr.bluesky]

So who did you support before 1892 ?

Clapham Rovers or Old Carthusions 

[john122350]

Let's see how long he lasts 

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[JohnsonSchlong]

Let's see how long he lasts 

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The Tottenham Supporters' Trust says it cannot support De Zerbi appointment - apparently he said Mason Greenwood seems alright

[Thephoenix]

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[Thephoenix]

So who did you support before 1892 ?

Hamilton Academicals.

[timsussex]

Spurs goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario is the latest Spurs star to join the long-term injury list, after undergoing surgery on a hernia he is expected to miss the next 2 managers

[Blackpool Rock]

The Tottenham Supporters' Trust says it cannot support De Zerbi appointment - apparently he said Mason Greenwood seems alright

Not a good sign when some of the core supporters are against the manager from day 1

[webpunter]

Spurs goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario is the latest Spurs star to join the long-term injury list, after undergoing surgery on a hernia he is expected to miss the next 2 managers

Quality 

[webpunter]

& its arrivederci three times on the bounce for 🇮🇹
Their footy papers must be going ballistic this morning after the penalty shoot failure
Edit:  wrong thread oops 

[Stevelondon]

& its arrivederci three times on the bounce for 🇮🇹
Their footy papers must be going ballistic this morning after the penalty shoot failure
Edit:  wrong thread oops 

At least you got it right in one way.
I was just about to start a similar post with ‘Adios’ 😂

[webpunter]

At least you got it right in one way.
I was just about to start a similar post with ‘Adios’ 😂

They're the type of team that whilst far from their previous best they would still beat England had they got to the US & the countries come up against each other further into the competition

[mr.bluesky]

They're the type of team that whilst far from their previous best they would still beat England had they got to the US & the countries come up against each other further into the competition

This has always been England's problem. They can't beat the " big" teams when it comes to the crunch in major tournaments. We somehow managed to bluff our way to the final in the last European championship but were found wanting in the final against Spain.

[JohnsonSchlong]

This has always been England's problem. They can't beat the " big" teams when it comes to the crunch in major tournaments. We somehow managed to bluff our way to the final in the last European championship but were found wanting in the final against Spain.

Probably because Japan weren't in it

[webpunter]

The japanese players in the Prem who played will be ripping it out of their team mates when they are back to their clubs & training
I have these as
Mitoma - Brighton
Kamada - Palace
Tanaka - 🔔🔚 Road

[ulstersubbie]

Hamilton Academicals.

 

[Vice Admiral]

Who are, statistically, the best football teams in the world?

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It appears that England has ten of the top twenty.

Brighton are above Borussia Dortmund.  Brentford are above AC Milan.  Bournemouth are above Benfica.

Football?  Bloody hell!

[JohnsonSchlong]

Who are, statistically, the best football teams in the world?

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It appears that England has ten of the top twenty.

Brighton are above Borussia Dortmund.  Brentford are above AC Milan.  Bournemouth are above Benfica.

Football?  Bloody hell!

Thanks for this - very interesting. From what I've seen recently I'd put PSG at the top. They are young, fast, aggressive, hungry, creative, powerful, skillful, and well organised.

Terrifying, in a nutshell.

[Vice Admiral]

In a full-page piece by Gregor Robertson in today’s Times under the headline, “Why I think Millwall are heading for the top flight”, Robertson predicts the following clubs as the top six in the Championship at the end of the season:
1.  Coventry City
2.  Millwall
3.  Ipswich Town
4.  Middlesbrough
5.  Southampton
6.  Hull City

And the bottom three as:
22.  Portsmouth
23.  Oxford City
(I don’t think so, Gregor!  Oxford City are currently 19th in National League North.)
24.  Sheffield Wednesday

Anyway, Millwall have just taken a decent step towards fulfilling Robertson’s prediction, beating Middlesbrough 2-1 away in a match that finished a few minutes ago.

If Millwall are promoted, and Spurs and West Ham survive – and my prediction, made on 29 March in Reply #3295, is that Forest will go down – there will for the first time ever be eight London clubs in the top division of English football!

[Sunny]

The downfall of Arsenal Fan TV: How 'corrupted' kingmaker Robbie Lyle is fighting to keep control of his £8.6m empire run alongside a 'Mad Dwarf' amid toxic fallouts, why viewing figures aren't spiking anymore and the truth about star names' exits

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[southcoastpunter]

Just watching the West Brom v Wrexham game ( supporting the baggies today) and full credit to their fans - a minutes applause for a 18 year old Birmingham city fan that went missing on an away game to Derby and later found dead in the river Derwent!

Good to see that local rivalry’s can be put aside for something like this.

And just as I write this , West Brom go 1-0!!!

[TomTank]

So who did you support before 1892 ?

Newcastle's owners should just go out and spend a few billion and hire 64 top lawyers ..... it's been shown that that's the strategy for cleaning up all the trophies and you can get away with it for 20 years .....

[webpunter]

Newcastle's owners should just go out and spend a few billion and hire 64 top lawyers ..... it's been shown that that's the strategy for cleaning up all the trophies and you can get away with it for 20 years .....

& if there happens to be a hotel which you already own & want to sell back to yourself & generate a profit no problemo
If a wendy ball team value this @ an astronomical amount
Whats needed is a virtue signalling wealthy bloke to invest £20m for 10% valuing the WSL team @ £200m
The Premier League will green light both this & the hotel mullarkey
UEFA take a different view & dish out fines now who is right the PL or UEFA ?, my wager is on the latter
Far as the PL are concerned Chelsea can crack on

On the ever so valuable Chelsea WSL they posted £20m turnover & £17m loss
Factor in accounting fiddles the loss is likely to be higher
If they had shown the figures the other way round this would have been hilarious [£17m turnover & a £20m loss]

The 10* investment ratio for valuation is more like a dot com / IT / software business with high future potential   
Lets face it whilst the WSL will see an expansion to suggest clubs it will ever make a profit is laughable
On the current & short to medium term performance i would value the Chelsea WSL team at closer to -£200m than +£200m
Probably somewhere in the middle which is about zero

If someone like Alexis Ohanian is klevva enuf to make around £150m current from R****t me thinks he's shrewd enuf to work out that he is unlikely to see his £20mill investment back
Make me think what motivations / [unwritten] guarantees Boehly & Co provided ?

I sooo hope Chelsea dont make the top 5 for CL & next season they are totally up a certain creek financially
& this is after them posting the biggest ever loss in the PL
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After lucrative player sales & the WCC winner $
Good luck next season

Enzo to Real dont be silly he's not that good  so Chelsea wont be getting as much as they expect if they do sell him & Real buy him
Rosenior has laid down the law banning him from the Port Vale match & also City 
Oooh some 'injuries' he might just make an appearance on the latter
Especially if Rosenior is no longer at the club, tho he'll probably crawl it to the end of the season
His managerial CV:  Dervy [interim] ➡️ Hull ➡️ Strasbourg ➡️ Chelsea, what could possibly go wrong ?

Edit:  ooops forgot that R*dd*t gets picked up on UKP internal affairs radar  , apologies

[timsussex]

Citeh 4 up after 58 mins and Red supporters already heading for the exits

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and now Salah adds a penalty miss to the 2 good chances he spurned

[Stevelondon]

City far too good for Liverpool today.
Felt a bit sad for Salah. He is going at the end of the season and I think it would have been nice to see him leave on a high note.
He looks just a bit fed up to be honest.

[Thephoenix]

City far too good for Liverpool today.
Felt a bit sad for Salah. He is going at the end of the season and I think it would have been nice to see him leave on a high note.
He looks just a bit fed up to be honest.

He's not the only one.
I feel ashamed.

[mr.bluesky]

He's not the only one.
I feel ashamed.

Oh well, you can splurge another £100 million or so on new players next season, not to worry 

[mr.bluesky]

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[webpunter]

mr.b most bookies have stop taking bets on Cov being promoted
two more wins & thats it, i'll let you do the maths
specially if the teams just below don't win
ipswich could join you in the automatic with two games in hand

a key benefit when promotion secured early is that the higher ups in the club can start thinking about next season in the Prem
the focus at the mo to get there
once achieved plans on transfers out & in to strengthen the squad can start
in some ways more problematic staying up than getting up

even leeds with a big fan base gate receipts a draw for tv matches & lucrative sponsorship from Red Bull have struggled
the financial rules [which are changing] particularly impact promoted clubs
so its how much the Cov board are able / willing to invest
go for staying up or set the club up for the next 5 years plus yo yo stuff

anyways congrats @mr.b for cov
& i hope to see Cov playing Leeds next season 🤞🤞
if the cheating cunts Leicester get relegated this will be even better

[myothernameis]

Watching the Championship, and how much difficulty are Leicester City in.

Going from competing in the premier league, and then winning the league, and now competing in the Championship

But looks like worst times are coming, and currently in 22nd place, out of 24, and looks like they will be relegated to league one, but

On Reddit, there saying if Leicester City, end up in league one, its possible the club will go into administration, it will be a shame if this happens

[mr.bluesky]

Cheers webbie  Coventry only have a single owner in Doug King so we would need more investors to come in. We have an obligation to sign Frank Onyeka full time from Brentford should we get promoted and we need to sign goalkeeper Carl Rushworth from Brighton who's had an outstanding season for us on loan from Brighton. I think most Coventry fans know that if we finish outside the bottom three in the Premier league that will be a major achievement. We play Blackburn Rovers away before the end of the season. Hopefully promotion or the league title will have been secured by then so we wouldn't be too unhappy if they were to win to help push those cheating East Midland fuckers I mean foxes down

[webpunter]

Cheers webbie  Coventry only have a single owner in Doug King so we would need more investors to come in. We have an obligation to sign Frank Onyeka full time from Brentford should we get promoted and we need to sign goalkeeper Carl Rushworth from Brighton who's had an outstanding season for us on loan from Brighton. I think most Coventry fans know that if we finish outside the bottom three in the Premier league that will be a major achievement. We play Blackburn Rovers away before the end of the season. Hopefully promotion or the league title will have been secured by then so we wouldn't be too unhappy if they were to win to help push those cheating East Midland fuckers I mean foxes down

Ideally promotion secured & be subtle throw the match to help see the EMFs go down
I'm sure you will be Champions but coming 2nd & the EMFs relegated worthwhile
If the situation arose that Leeds could have done this & see 'Wilder is a Wanker' relegated deffo
& the fans have the last laarf we only did it to see you go down 

Finishing outside the bottom three always the target 🤞take things from there
IMO Fat Frank would be best served by staying next season & be given the resources to mount a challenge to stay up
At Norwich Farke had no chance hopefully at Leeds better
If FF aint given a chance stay for the season [on bonuses for this season + a big pay rise] show some managerial loyalty & then move on subsequently

[john122350]

Well Southampton knocked out bottlers from FA cup 2-1 and will be going to Wembley 

[Blackpool Rock]

Arsenal dumped out of the FA cup by Championship Southampton, only a couple of weeks ago people were talking about a Quadruple but that's 2 cups gone, will they continue to choke it and start losing league games opening the door for City 

[WARSZAWA16]

So, Arsenal pulled all those players out of internationals just for that 

[myothernameis]

Arsenal dumped out of the FA cup by Championship Southampton, only a couple of weeks ago people were talking about a Quadruple but that's 2 cups gone, will they continue to choke it and start losing league games opening the door for City 

BBC commentator said: Arsenal fans not use to this 

Now it wouldn't surprise me, if Arsenal throw away the league title, and Man city go on to win

[webpunter]

So, Arsenal pulled all those players out of internationals just for that 

On Talk Sport today they mentioned around 240 players in the internationals over the w/e
20 withdrawn
Of which half were Arsenal players
It was blustery maybe Arteta will use this as the excuse

[webpunter]

BBC commentator said: Arsenal fans not use to this 

Now it wouldn't surprise me, if Arsenal throw away the league title, and Man city go on to win

Especially if they win the FA Cup which is looking increasingly likely [its basically theirs already] & go on to secure a very unlikely treble
I will laarf my tits off if this happens & Arteta then needs to move on elsewhere, like Spain

[Blackpool Rock]

On Talk Sport today they mentioned around 240 players in the internationals over the w/e
20 withdrawn
Of which half were Arsenal players
It was blustery maybe Arteta will use this as the excuse

Was it last season Arteta was complaining about the wrong type of balls as they were different between the league; cups and CL 

Perhaps this was the wrong type of wind