Married and new to punting. Any advice to a newbie?

[orangechicken]

Good folks. Seeking the wisdom of your combined experience.

Firstly, I’m married and still have sex once a week with the Mrs but I’m sexually bored. I want new things in the bedroom and think non stop about it but that isn’t coming from her, despite many open conversations. I’ve only ever slept with one woman (her) and if that variation isn’t coming in the marital bedroom, I figure I’ll get my mojo with other sexual partners.

My first entry in to this world will be a nude erotic massage with a HE. This is largely as I see this as the least ‘betrayal’, as whilst I have made the decision, I honestly don’t know if the guilt will wrack me with a full blown sexual experience.

I’ve already decided that everything will be covered (yes including oral) if I proceed further with this hobby but also that only WGs that do not perform OWO will be on the menu to minimise risk, as well as enquiring about their sexual testing routines (although they could always lie to me). 

Any other advice? Cheers!

[DevilTimed]

You are going to struggle to find girls that ONLY do OWO.

Good luck with it, and enjoy the shagging. You only live once.

[JontyR]

1. Read the puntingwiki
2. Get a punting phone.
3. Find a marriage counsellor.
4. Remember punting isn't real life. Don't confuse it with it.
5. You won't be able to put the genie back in the bottle.
6. Write reviews.

[Count Backwards]

As you get older the worry is more regrets of omission than of commission. Get out there and enjoy life!

On a note practical level, yeah, a punting phone.

[mr.bluesky]

Punting phone a must kept well hidden away
Separate bank account otherwise you're going to have to explain money regularly being taken from your account. (especially large sums of £70 - £150)
A hobby to get you out of the house ( like joining a gym )
Start with visits to a rub and tug massage parlour.
Don't punt close to home as you may bump into someone you know.

[RandomGuy99]

Read the Punting Wiki External Link/Members Only

[mr.bluesky]

Read the Punting Wiki External Link/Members Only

  sound advice, this covers all bases.

[MissWolf]

1. Read the puntingwiki
2. Get a punting phone.
3. Find a marriage counsellor.
4. Remember punting isn't real life. Don't confuse it with it.
5. You won't be able to put the genie back in the bottle.
6. Write reviews.

What Jontybsaid but in a different order....
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And also remember that a large percent of escorts are in some kind of relationship  so will be doing owo and or bb sex with one person, good luck with asking for test results,  while we all do them (or id hope we do) a lot will take offence at having you check up on them. 

[Colston36]

What Jontybsaid but in a different order....
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And also remember that a large percent of escorts are in some kind of relationship  so will be doing owo and or bb sex with one person, good luck with asking for test results,  while we all do them (or id hope we do) a lot will take offence at having you check up on them. 

Wise, as usual.

[macman26]

Mate probably I would add as well as reading the wiki, taking up swimming is a good hobby and also if you need an excuse to be in some parts of town etc if you don’t work away a lot, therefore Facebook marketplace is your answer, mate.

Start this now, well before punting, swimming and buying a few things on Facebook marketplace. And then when you actually go through with a meeting excuse to be in that street as I’m looking at a on the speakers 2ed hand etc. When you finished have a swim. The problem is to get rid of the smell of women, even if they are natural with no Perfume going to  pick up something, vape, air freshener or pussy    . Just masking with aftershave and baby wipes he’s not gonna cut it mate.

Also, if you do your first one, I have quite low expectations, youll be as nervous as fuck… you’ve got to get into the swim with two and three onwards my advice would be to book 30 minute p&d or just a bj.


This happened to me many years ago when still has a home sex life, booked one did her about 4pm got home then bedtime Mrs wanted it. After months of no etc. That worried as the wg gave me owc no time in testing!

Lastly, do something completely different if you still have an occasional sex life at home, Things she won’t do or doesn’t look like, gym fit bunny or big boobs owc and anal etc. There’s no point going for someone which looks similar the same stuff

[bigbird]

What i do is not make anything up to the Mrs, i wait patiently until opportunity arises. Visiting a customer i will will check what might be available on route, try and find a few and have a plan A,B,C and do you due diligence on here, make sure they are ok.. Recently i called into Birmingham to see Sonya and Meena, my business meeting wasn't in Birmingham but i was passing by so i nipped in and had a go on those two. Also apart from on here i don't tell anyone anything EVER, not even my best mate. "Loose lips sink ships" and all that. Personally i prefer meets in apartments as even if you were to get spotted walking in an apartment block who knows why you are there or who you are seeing?, if you visit a house then in all likelihood everyone local probably knows the score and why you are there.. I like visiting Thais also as they don't always speak great English and they move around a lot and in their culture its nothing unusual fucking a hooker, basically they are not going to blab to anyone in the local pub/supermarket (they don't care) and you are unlikely to ever bump into them anywhere, don't shit on your own doorstep with a local lass that everyone knows is a hooker..

[Stevelondon]

Give up the once a week sex with the missus.
No point in overdoing yourself and risking injury.

Also.

Please don’t view just having a naked massage with a wank at the end anything remotely like……….. not really the same as FS.

It’s all punting mate and if you had to sit down with the wife in the divorce court cos she found out.
Her lawyers hardly going to think along the lines of……. It was just a wank. Not really cheating at all. 

[scutty brown]

Start working on your divorce plans now
The earlier you start hiding money the easier it is to keep it hidden.
And she's going to find out what you're doing somehow........tracking the phone, tracking the car, perfume on you, dried spunk in your pants when she washes them, clawmarks.........

[Stevelondon]

Hopefully his own dried spunk scutty 

[jseop109]

Bigbird's advice is good. Try to integrate it into your normal life, movements etc  instead of having to fabricate complex explanations about why you are off somewhere. Keep it simple.

Also, in case you bump into someone you know in some unfamiliar location, always have a mundane and innocent explanation ready about why you are there, so you don't look taken by surprise.

[advent2016]

I’ve already decided that everything will be covered (yes including oral) if I proceed further with this hobby but also that only WGs that do not perform OWO will be on the menu to minimise risk, as well as enquiring about their sexual testing routines (although they could always lie to me). 

Any other advice? Cheers!

Many providers will offer OW (Oral with a condom). I've been having OWO with various providers since the 90s and for me it's been very safe, disease free.  Nearly all penetrative sex has been with condom. When I started I never thought I'd be satisfied with a massage but here we are and a HJ, but often this is the outcome with a new provider (I prefer OWO/CIM finish). Often I pay the same amount as say OWO and covered sex and only have the OWO/finish, I get plenty of boring vaginal sex with current GF.

as others have said
1. get a punting phone
2. separate email and social accounts for punting and never ever check you real email/social from the punting phone.
3. If you need plausible deniability - keep it simple, try not to involve others in your lies, e.g. support another team, maybe go to a match, get the scores.
4. Start slowly, there is still plenty of choice out there.
5. read the forum and write reviews.

[Mr Sinister]

Any other advice? Cheers!

Just start planning  and get a divorce and move on with your life and let her do the same. You haven't specified if you have kids or not, if not then just stomach the cost and separate then go fuck all the women you want.

[advent2016]

Start working on your divorce plans now
The earlier you start hiding money the easier it is to keep it hidden.
And she's going to find out what you're doing somehow........tracking the phone, tracking the car, perfume on you, dried spunk in your pants when she washes them, clawmarks.........

Good advice - my previous divorces, I wasn't prepared and lost several fortunes
We were watching TV (My GF likes a lot of rubbish crime type shows with a personal angle) and the show was about a cheating spouse and my GF said she'd know if I was.
I'm very careful, If I really must have an evening BJ(it's addiction) I fake a call-out, drive to a work location and leave my phone, clothes etc and change into other clothes. On return,  spray my clothes / self with a light oily by very smelly concoction, dress, swap phones, return home with a take-out, Ben and Jerry's, maybe some flowers if late.
My big worry(nightmare) is I might be in a serious accident and get taken to her hospital with my punting phone (it has no call history) but a load of dried spunk in my kacks or worse lipstick and perfume on me.
Most of the time I'm punting in daylight hours so not a problem and I punt much less now, sometimes only once a week and often with a reg.

[alabama1]

Good folks. Seeking the wisdom of your combined experience.

Firstly, I’m married and still have sex once a week with the Mrs but I’m sexually bored. I want new things in the bedroom and think non stop about it but that isn’t coming from her, despite many open conversations. I’ve only ever slept with one woman (her) and if that variation isn’t coming in the marital bedroom, I figure I’ll get my mojo with other sexual partners.

My first entry in to this world will be a nude erotic massage with a HE. This is largely as I see this as the least ‘betrayal’, as whilst I have made the decision, I honestly don’t know if the guilt will wrack me with a full blown sexual experience.

I’ve already decided that everything will be covered (yes including oral) if I proceed further with this hobby but also that only WGs that do not perform OWO will be on the menu to minimise risk, as well as enquiring about their sexual testing routines (although they could always lie to me). 

Any other advice? Cheers!

Good luck with that ! Most Thais, at least, will struggle to understand the question.

[stevesucks69]

If you're this worried go and get a hobby, cheaper, safer and less stress based on your post!

[macman26]

Personally, I think the original poster should just go off to a strip club one evening.  See if that exciting's you probably will find if you are smart enough and don't drink or hardly anything you could be offered a extra service in one of the rooms out back.

Normally, it's just a strip and hand relief or touching down there to make you cum.

That book a "Thai or Chinese" massage, for your dodgy back... fuck me she took her clothes off and gave you a hand job.

That's how many of us got started in this hobby

[martin1964]

Most of what I was going to say is covered here, some good contributions here by members, even for more experienced punters like myself, serves as a good reminder for good operational practices!

A few things I would add

1) Don't take your personal phone into the SPs premises, leave it in your car, the reasons for this are well covered on other threads so I won't go into details here.

2) Do your homework, look for reviews on here for good SPs and pick one of them for your first punt, tell her it's your first time and if she's any good she'll make adjustments accordingly.

3) Don't ask girls about their sexual testing routine, you'll just create friction or get a bad reaction, if a girl is well reviewed on here chances are she'll be safe.

4) Don't get into arguments / disagreements with SPs, particularly in person at a booking. Let it go and write about it here later. One of my regular SPs (reviewed) picked up a negative review on here in among some positives and she claimed that business from new clients (as opposed to regulars/returners) was about 35% down for the following 6 months, so it shows that people do read these forums and take note.

If you get stuck or need advice, search on here, if it's not been covered, ask!

[stampjones]

I think the basics have been covered well. Its important to not underestimate the necessity of a punting phone. It will save your life (but keep it switched off when not in use). Try not to paranoid. If you take sensible precautions mentioned its unlikely you’ll get caught. Having said that however many precautions you take its always possible to just run out of luck!

Anyway the main thing I wanted to say was when I was early in my marriage and realised I had to keep punting I was a bit like you in that I severely restricted what I allowed myself to do (HE only). Over the years though I needed more and more such that now I bareback street whores while tey inject smack. Well okay maybe not that far but the point is you’ll want more and you might not be able to stop yourself like you’re not able to stop yourself taking this first step. You’ll always rationalise it then do it. What eventually ended my marriage was I stopped having sex with my wife (once a month by that stage) so that I could have owo without tripping my conscience. My wife took this (not unreasonably) as me not wanting her anymore and Im now a much poorer divorced man.

My point is, it’s easier to not take the first step than not take any of the subsequent steps. This is a very addictive hobby (at least in my experience). There’s a reasonable chance this hobby could cost you your marriage. So think what you really want. Beating one out to a dodgy bdsm video on pornhub is much easier to explain away than being caught with a hooker’s underwear around your ankles while you’re being whipped with a dead mackrel. Im not saying dont do it, just dont kid yourself aboutcwhat you might be getting into. Good luck whatever you decide 

[Stevelondon]

It’s when I read threads like this that I look back in amazement. How the hell have I managed to live what I personally think is a quite ordinary punting life.
Without having to go through what most of you lot seem to think necessary.

I’m now realising that I should really be looking at things this way.

Punting phone, a must.
Punting car, not quite a must but nice if you can afford it.
Taking out cash in dribs and drabs so you have it saved for that punting moment…….. no large cash withdrawal to try to explain.
Change of clothes …… WTF.
Try to blend in and look ordinary when visiting SP……….. only carry correct amount of dosh and most importantly. No ID.


Jeez. I’d give the fuckin hobby up if I ever got this paranoid.

Live life. Long time dead.


To the guy who mentioned he had lost several fortunes.
I’d be looking into getting a new lawyer if I were you. 

[hairdownthere]

It’s when I read threads like this that I look back in amazement. How the hell have I managed to live what I personally think is a quite ordinary punting life.
Without having to go through what most of you lot seem to think necessary.

I’m now realising that I should really be looking at things this way.

Punting phone, a must.
Punting car, not quite a must but nice if you can afford it.
Taking out cash in dribs and drabs so you have it saved for that punting moment…….. no large cash withdrawal to try to explain.
Change of clothes …… WTF.
Try to blend in and look ordinary when visiting SP……….. only carry correct amount of dosh and most importantly. No ID.


Jeez. I’d give the fuckin hobby up if I ever got this paranoid.

Live life. Long time dead.


To the guy who mentioned he had lost several fortunes.
I’d be looking into getting a new lawyer if I were you. 

Well said

2 things to the OP...

Use your common sense
Use a punting phone

[RandomGuy99]

Well said

2 things to the OP...

Use your common sense
Use a punting phone

Willies don't have common sense.

[macman26]

Just reading all this they might be a mums net poster trying to get Intel?? The other issue with a second phone as you’ve got to make sure that’s hidden well and or which is there’s a decent explanation. Like your old phone. 

[advent2016]

Just reading all this they might be a mums net poster trying to get Intel?? The other issue with a second phone as you’ve got to make sure that’s hidden well and or which is there’s a decent explanation. Like your old phone.

I agree, hiding is often a good idea. I use a locker at work but I like an extra layer of protection and for out and about. I set the phone to erase itself after 5 failed logins.

If you have some Android phones (Not Samsung) you can enable multi user mode and have a profile that always boots into a normal clean profile and in my case my SOS profile has some punting tools, separate sim etc. I still use encrypted apps underneath, like External Link/Members Only and its companion app. It can have some fancy lock screen saying "This is a private computer system, do not proceed unless authorized. Use may be monitored, and unauthorized use may result in prosecution" I can plausibly deny knowing the password and maybe hint to 50/others that it might be a SIS profile

Hidden Image/Members Only

[DevilTimed]

The weirdest bit of paranoia in this thread is the "wife catches me by finding spunk in my pants".

I leave most of my spunk at the scene of the crime, and after a shower and a thorough wash I'm not leaving long string of cum in my tightie whities.

Is this an age thing? Am I still in my prime?

[macman26]

The weirdest bit of paranoia in this thread is the "wife catches me by finding spunk in my pants".

I leave most of my spunk at the scene of the crime, and after a shower and a thorough wash I'm not leaving long string of cum in my tightie whities.

Is this an age thing? Am I still in my prime?

Yes same mate - perfume is the main offender!  Very, very rare to find one doesn't have anything on them!

[advent2016]

The weirdest bit of paranoia in this thread is the "wife catches me by finding spunk in my pants".

Often for a 15 min quickie, I'm sitting, pants around my ankles whilst girl kneeling gives me a rapid BJ until explosion, if it doesn't all go in her mouth or on her face likelihood is some may escape. I had a look at my work pants earlier and there are a few dried on stains that could easily be cum. I must remember to wash them.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Willies don't have common sense.

Ain't that the G'Damn Truth..

Some further reading for the OP....and..Welcome!..      https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=348188.0

[macman26]

Vanish

[KatieEdinburgh]

had a look at my work pants earlier and there are a few dried on stains that could easily be cum. I must remember to wash them.

Plus some stains that aren’t cum  eww

Now I do feel sorry for the wife , joking

[pantywetter]

Instead of a punting phone I have always used the hushed app which I delete from my phone.  A punting phone would be risky for me. 

I also have a seperate bank account with a neo bank so I don’t have cash withdrawals on my statements.  That’s saved me a few times.

Always have an excuse why you were in an area.  I never mention it unless it comes up, but I’m prepared with the story eg “had to drop off £100 I owed to Dave”

Incognito mode on phone then delete tags.  If anything will ever catch you out it’s your phone.

The guilt will pass quickly.  I haven’t had a pang of it since my first punt 25 years ago.

[pantywetter]

This happened to me many years ago when still has a home sex life, booked one did her about 4pm got home then bedtime Mrs wanted it. After months of no etc. That worried as the wg gave me owc no time in testing!

This has caught me out a few times.  The Mrs isn’t putting out for a few weeks.  I book a hooker after works and cum 2 twice.  Get home and the Mrs is randomly gagging for it. 

I used to be able to do it but it’s a bit harder work nowadays!

[macman26]

This has caught me out a few times.  The Mrs isn’t putting out for a few weeks.  I book a hooker after works and cum 2 twice.  Get home and the Mrs is randomly gagging for it. 

I used to be able to do it but it’s a bit harder work nowadays!

Always go for owc and giving her oral with wg... the Mrs never liked giving owc anyhow, just thought it made less mess in her pussy... lol. Soon no mess at all. 

After this close shave I came up on the idea of having and buying some novelty but safe approved condoms. she did it again. A few months later after I booked one up about 12:20pm with the mrs rubbing herself and holding my cock. Hours earlier I was enjoying big boobs and pussy of wg.  Instead of the worry for weeks afterwards in case I've got anything I quickly said to her why don't we try a novelty condom while I was servicing her? I might last longer apparently gives her better sensation. Few weeks later got the test results back all negative of course. It happened again a few weeks later not after I've seen a wg don't bother with condom as I wanted to cum in her again the mrs that is....   course the other option is to suggest she doesn't use any form of contraception as you doing it for her and you'll take full responsibility and wrap everything up.

One thing probably should need to point out if you are occasionally still doing the Mrs but you are seeing wg you start drifting wanting more exotic things and also start becoming a better lover. Practice makes perfect..  it also can be difficulty trying to explain it away how you learn to do that?? Remember, I found myself pushing my finger in the Mrs. Bum very gently rubbing the back inside of her g spot.

[Doc Holliday]

Plus some stains that aren’t cum  eww

Brown to the rear and white to the front ..... unless in the dark you put them on back to front 

There is as usual much excellent advice, though I suspect the OP has already done quite a bit of research in the past before joining recently and posting.

Looking at his other post on the forum, I think the main thrust of his post (and I may be wrong?) is how married punters deal with the 'guilt' and minimise the potential risk albeit small of transmitting something to their OH?

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=429325.msg4266486#msg4266486

[newhere456]

Just be prepared that once you take the plunge, you can never erase those memories - good or bad.  You will start acting differently, the mrs will pick this up - remarkably intuative they care.  Thus the search for physical evidence begins (perhaps unnoticed),  you will need to cover your tracks well.

Perfume can be a real pain to get out of clothes and off skin.  I often find I need to change clothes.  Taking up swimming is a great way around this, but is rather time consuming.  Even better if you have your own pool.

Always have an alibi,  keep it simple and plausable.  And Deny Deny Deny.

Don't forget to have fun,  after all the prep.

[WelshClipper]

I remember being utterly paranoid when I started mainly from the worry of catching something unexplainable.

I never really felt guilty, the buzz at the time on this forum was that it was just sex.

I do think if I was as paranoid as the OP then I would give this hobby up pretty smartish like.

Interesting advice about not taking your own phone into the punt. I use a punter phone…(the best advice)

But if you are travelling long distance by train, where do you put your personal stuff 

[Stevelondon]

If you are punting in the city (London) You might want to consider using a local shop to store your phone (small fee)
There is a travel agents just down the road from the Old Bailey that offers this service.

Cos you can’t take mobiles into the Old Bailey.

Don’t ask 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

And clear out the catche/history on your computer.

Or just hope that the missus isn't an IT Geek!...

[Mmm1314]

Loads of discussions on punting phones, keep an eye out on other smart gadgets like watches.   I once had a call on my cellular Apple Watch from the wife while I was getting a BJ from an SP.   It’s now removed prior to any punting activities…

[Doc Holliday]

It’s now removed prior to any punting activities…

The watch or your wife? 

[dubs]

This has caught me out a few times.  The Mrs isn’t putting out for a few weeks.  I book a hooker after works and cum 2 twice.  Get home and the Mrs is randomly gagging for it. 

I used to be able to do it but it’s a bit harder work nowadays!

Happened to me after a Lady Marmalade Party where I had already cum 3 times. 

[Mackan1]

Just ask your wife if you can try and role play with her.
Sit down and chat about do and don’t in the bed room.  You may find she has some kinks now that u did not expect.

Just remember punting is not real life. Same with porn it is not real life.

[Mackan1]

And clear out the catche/history on your computer.

Or just hope that the missus isn't an IT Geek!...

Or use incognito mode or download a browser that delete ur history when you close it.  Or do it on ur punting phone make sure u do not use Face ID or a PIN number your other half may know and if she find the phone u just say u found the phone and picked it up. Meaning no way to get in to the phone.
See people getting cought out as Face ID unlocked it :1p 

[dubs]

Good folks. Seeking the wisdom of your combined experience.

Firstly, I’m married and still have sex once a week with the Mrs but I’m sexually bored. I want new things in the bedroom and think non stop about it but that isn’t coming from her, despite many open conversations. I’ve only ever slept with one woman (her) and if that variation isn’t coming in the marital bedroom, I figure I’ll get my mojo with other sexual partners.

My first entry in to this world will be a nude erotic massage with a HE. This is largely as I see this as the least ‘betrayal’, as whilst I have made the decision, I honestly don’t know if the guilt will wrack me with a full blown sexual experience.

I’ve already decided that everything will be covered (yes including oral) if I proceed further with this hobby but also that only WGs that do not perform OWO will be on the menu to minimise risk, as well as enquiring about their sexual testing routines (although they could always lie to me). 

Any other advice? Cheers!

Be aware of the risks...

- Catching some STD
- Being outed
- being blackmailed
- getting threatened by a pimp
- Getting found out and being ostracized by your family / her family
- Getting caught up in police raid
- having to explain parking or speeding ticket from an unusual area
- your hidden punting phone sounding an emergency alert message
- leaving something incriminating in your browser history

[Thephoenix]

Be aware of the risks...

- Catching some STD
- Being outed
- being blackmailed
- getting threatened by a pimp
- Getting found out and being ostracized by your family / her family
- Getting caught up in police raid
- having to explain parking or speeding ticket from an unusual area
- your hidden punting phone sounding an emergency alert message
- leaving something incriminating in your browser history

Apart from that it's fine.

[macman26]

Loads of discussions on punting phones, keep an eye out on other smart gadgets like watches.   I once had a call on my cellular Apple Watch from the wife while I was getting a BJ from an SP.   It’s now removed prior to any punting activities…

Also cars too. Some of the sat nav’s have a learn feature, whereby past locations are show on screen. If you don’t enter the address in the unit. iPhones can also store know locations too.

Really pain hence why I said you in this road/area to look at xxx for sale or for work don’t lie and say your meet a mate/family and will get found out and then you have to lie to cover that up . If you take bus/train etc issues with tickets/banks etc and list goes on.

So have an excuse to be where you are which can not be checked upon easily.