Does anyone have any recent experience from Ukraine. Someone I know used to have a successful import business of furniture from Ukraine which was badly affected after recent events.
He went over recently if I understand correctly by road from a neighboring country on to pursue a potentiol business venture. He mentioned the escort scene is a foreigners wet dream, 20 gbp/hour for a decent s.p and 50/60 for a high end one.
Can't really sus of he's exaggerating and maybe some B.S.
Maybe someone else on UKP has dabbled apparenlty even pre war it was an affordable location for punting.
I'm fully single again and looking at a few punting destinations.
Thai / Philippines
Brazil
Spain
And potentially Ukraine... from Poland or Hungary
There's a lot of Ukrainian girls that come on Tik tok live and some of them seem to be open to a meet.. another reason I want to go. Mostly from Kiev. From what I'm hearing the day to day in kiev and most cities is pretty normal. Ie no threat to being bombed by Russians.
Ok, seems like I might be the only one with some actual experience here.I have been punting in Kyiv many times since the start of the war. Latest visit was Feb 2024. This is what I can offer in terms of perspective:
LogisticsThe only sensible route to get in and out is by Train. If you go by road, you can get stuck at the border for hours as they do various inspections. Train will keep its schedule and you can actually plan.
You can buy tickets from this site:
External Link/Members OnlyIt's very reliable, just make sure you plan in advance since they sometimes ship out physical tickets 🤷♂️, also tickets get sold out very quickly. You need to book from Warsaw Wychodnia to Kyiv Pas, it may have a change at Chelm, but there are direct routes, which is obv preferred.
Train journey is pleasant since you are only mingling with Poles and Ukrainians, who on the whole are very decent and nice people. No issues with idiots playing loud music, and other retarded nuisances you get in Western Europe.
You can get a Kyivstar SIM at Kyiv Pas Train station, so make sure you get one and they will install and activate it. Important to ensure that you get a plan with SMS, since that is not the default one they will offer. They will try to talk you out of it (they mean well, but they don't understand why you'd need SMS, but as a punter you fucking need it). Just be clear you need calls, data, MMS and SMS.
Most escorts don't have WhatsApp/Telegram/Viber, so if you don't speak Ukainian/Russian, then you will be sending translated SMS messages as your only chance of arranging a punt.
Interacting with Kyiv normiesIf they are young, they will most likely speak some English, if they are middle aged or older, odds on they don't speak a word of it 🙄
Since you have a UA SIM with data, Google Translate is your friend, ensure you DL the Russian and Ukrainian dictionaries for offline use if you are out of signal.
Use and abuse the photo translate feature. Great for menus.
For Taxis use Bolt/Uber, Uklon is the cheaper local version, but it won't work for you.
For food delivery Glovo is the best option, just DL the app and use. If you have a laptop you can use Glovo in the browser and translate via Chrome.
Is it dangerous in Kyiv?YES. You will hear the rockets and attacks from the Russian orcs while you are there. One visit I was there on the Ukrainian national day (not planned, just happenstance) and they hammered Kyiv all night. I was terrified and had huge regret being there, since I could see the rockets from my very central apartment, and I could feel the explosions. Very stupid to be there at that time. Since then, I have tried to ensure that if I do travel there, I am not there during sensitive holidays, since the orcs are relentless in their attacks against civilian targets, I have seen and experienced it with my own eyes.
Kyiv on the whole is pretty safe, and the UA air defence is great, but since agent Krasnov entered the White House, I have no idea how well supplied they are. So since the change in regime in the US, I have not travelled again, nor would I until I am sure that the AFU is well supplied and running at full capacity, which I doubt right now.
If you insist on braving the journey, I might recommend The Bontiak Hotel, since it's very near the Ukrainian SBU headquarters, The SBU is the UA version of MI5/6 headed up by Budanov. So I would guess that it would be well protected from Orc attacks.
One disadvantage is that you will have to collect all your outcalls, since entry and exit to that street is regulated by 24h armed guards, for obv reasons.
Booking PuntsI have enough contacts from my previous visits that I have a full rolodex, and don't need to search for new punts.
You will however need to do your own research and also somehow communicate with the girls. UA escorts pretty much speak zero English no matter the age.
I have a friend who makes calls for me if I want to contact a Russian speaker, so should I want to go out of my comfort zone, I still have that option.
For you, I'd recommend sticking to girls that have Telegram/Viber/WhatsApp, which is not a wide selection, but without the language it will be challenging to book a successful punt.
External Link/Members Only is the best site to use to find girls, as usual YMMV.
My experience with Ukrainian women has been that they are the very sexiest of the Slavic peoples, offer a great service and fun to be around when you get to know them well.
Given the challenges above, I would strongly advise against UA for punting right now, it's not for beginners.
Instead, as a newly single guy, my recommendation would be to jet off to
Pattaya, TH and stay there as long as you can. It will rock your world 👨🎤
If however you are also partial to slavic women, then Warsaw is a great destination for punting while Kyiv and Moscow are off limits.