Gregg Wallace

[Charliehutton]

Apparently he greeted model Melanie Sykes with "do models eat food?" which she found 'unprofessional' and so upsetting it led to her ending her television career.

Penny Lancaster was traumatised at him criticising her cooking, in his role as a judge on a competitive cookery show.

Seasoned, senior BBC journalist Kirsty Wark had a fit of the vapours at him telling a rude joke.

Ghastly MP Rupa Huq - never one to let a bandwagon pass without jumping on it - said just seeing him on the show could 'trigger' his victims. Even Starmer's aboard now. I never thought I'd feel sorry for Wallace - he's always got on my wick, in truth - but on the evidence so far this is an absurd, hysterical witch hunt.

[timsussex]

Apparently he greeted model Melanie Sykes with "do models eat food?" which she found 'unprofessional' and so upsetting it led to her ending her television career.

Penny Lancaster was traumatised at him criticising her cooking, in his role as a judge on a competitive cookery show.

Seasoned, senior BBC journalist Kirsty Wark had a fit of the vapours at him telling a rude joke.

Ghastly MP Rupa Huq - never one to let a bandwagon pass without jumping on it - said just seeing him on the show could 'trigger' his victims. Even Starmer's aboard now. I never thought I'd feel sorry for Wallace - he's always got on my wick, in truth - but on the evidence so far this is an absurd, hysterical witch hunt.

yep - I've always avoided anything he did but some of the comments made are worse than most of what he is accused of
I see Ulrika Jonnson has also jumped on the bandwagon saying she had heard that he told a joke about rape. Note she didnt know but "had heard"

[RandomGuy99]

He just seems to have a bit of a crap sense of humour and maybe a lack of understanding of how to behave in certain social settings. Is thar illegal? Probably not. Is it more embarrassing for him?

I did notice that he has a child with autism and I wonder if perhaps he might have a few autistic traits himself or be somewhere on the spectrum as sometimes autism is inherited by child from their parents and sometimes it goes unnoticed in the parents.

[sir wanksalot]

He just seems to have a bit of a crap sense of humour and maybe a lack of understanding of how to behave in certain social settings. Is thar illegal? Probably not. Is it more embarrassing for him?

I did notice that he has a child with autism and I wonder if perhaps he might have a few autistic traits himself or be somewhere on the spectrum as sometimes autism is inherited by child from their parents and sometimes it goes unnoticed in the parents.

I think that's a fair assessment. We are a bunch of sensitive nellies these days. Offending someone is a crime

[Charliehutton]

yep - I've always avoided anything he did but some of the comments made are worse than most of what he is accused of
I see Ulrika Jonnson has also jumped on the bandwagon saying she had heard that he told a joke about rape. Note she didnt know but "had heard"

Publicity-shy Ulrika? Surely not! It'll be ghastly rent-a-gob Vanessa Feltz next! Doh, too late!

[RandomGuy99]

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[Ali Katt]

Apparently he greeted model Melanie Sykes with "do models eat food?" which she found 'unprofessional' and so upsetting it led to her ending her television career.

Penny Lancaster was traumatised at him criticising her cooking, in his role as a judge on a competitive cookery show.

Seasoned, senior BBC journalist Kirsty Wark had a fit of the vapours at him telling a rude joke.

Ghastly MP Rupa Huq - never one to let a bandwagon pass without jumping on it - said just seeing him on the show could 'trigger' his victims. Even Starmer's aboard now. I never thought I'd feel sorry for Wallace - he's always got on my wick, in truth - but on the evidence so far this is an absurd, hysterical witch hunt.

Falling ratings for Des and Mel killed her career. She's a sexy woman I'm sure many guests said a lot worse to her

[Ali Katt]

I think this stuff usually comes out when they want to get rid of someone. I'm not saying he's innocent, just the timing is insidious.

Another issue is who it is. Had it been Idris Elba or even Clarkson there would be no story.

[DastardlyDick]

I think this stuff usually comes out when they want to get rid of someone. I'm not saying he's innocent, just the timing is insidious.

I suspect you're right. I doubt he meant anything nasty, but he is "of his time" - I'm of an age when openly saying "phwoar, look at the tits on her" and wolf whistling were considered normal.

[akauya]

I think that's a fair assessment. We are a bunch of sensitive nellies these days. Offending someone is a crime

I like how you prove your own point about sensitive nellies by using extreme hyperbole like "offending someone is a crime." Your use of irony is quite on point. You appear to be quite sensitive about people being, well, sensitive. It's almost like you're a sensitive nellie about sensitive nellies! 

No offense intended, just an observation.

[catweazle]

Almost predictably, the historic accusations of inappropriate touching have started.

[chunky monkey]

I think it was best described on the Laura Kuenssberg show this Sunday

Something along the lines of
He has a bawdy sense of humour, which offends some people but over many years nobody has told him to reign it in a bit

[Blackpool Rock]

Almost predictably, the historic accusations of inappropriate touching have started.

But are they true 

I'm not comparing him to Savile or Al Fayed however Savile was about 12 years ago and the investigation that followed scooped up a lot of other peoples behaviour
There must have been an awful lot of other celebrities who considered their current and past behaviours and were thinking oh fuck I did XYZ 20 or 30 years ago when nobody batted an eye but now it will be judged differently.
Not everyone will have been caught in the net at the time and many will have walked away breathing a big sigh of relief but wondering if at some future stage they would also be in the spotlight.

However anyone with any sense who was a bit touchy feely would surely curb their behaviour 
I mean you'd either have to be a fuckwit; like the risk / thrill or be a real pervert to continue, perhaps as suggested on the other hand he doesn't have a filter and isn't fully aware of how his actions are perceived by others, could be if if is somewhere on the "Spectrum" so to speak

As with other celebrities only once the complaints went public did other people suddenly pop out of the woodwork, as with most of these cases people either didn't want to make a fuss partly for fear of not being believed but also as many probably thought they were the only one.
Again with this guy there appear to have been plenty of previous complaints and the warning signs were there but he was allowed to carry on in plain sight.

People do seem to be defending this guy but nobody has defended Al Fayed, the current (known) allegations aren't necessarily on the same scale but what's the cut off point between something being seen as banter or bawdy fun and over stepping the mark 

[DastardlyDick]

People do seem to be defending this guy but nobody has defended Al Fayed, the current (known) allegations aren't necessarily on the same scale but what's the cut off point between something being seen as banter or bawdy fun and over stepping the mark 

I think when you have STD checks done and don't tell the person being tested the result - which could be useful to them - is pretty much "crossing the line".

[myothernameis]

I think it was best described on the Laura Kuenssberg show this Sunday

Something along the lines of
He has a bawdy sense of humour, which offends some people but over many years nobody has told him to reign it in a bit

Xmas specials have been canceled, now wonder why, only thing I can think of, has he said a few things out of context, and then would be scrutinized

Seen a video clip, of someone who was on master-chef, and she walked into the studio, telling Gregg I have a present for you, which was a book.  Gregg replied is it for my big cock, which she then felt humiliated, and left the studio crying

Other thing being reported, seemingly Gregg had asked the BSL interpreter, to sign language for  Big Boobs & Sexy Bum

Do you have to sign everything I say?’ And she said: ‘Yes,’ and then he just started saying: ‘Big boobs’, ‘sexy bum’ – this sort of thing, in order to get her to sign it. It was like he could control her, I suppose,” said the woman, a professional in the cultural sector.

[jackdaw]

I think it was best described on the Laura Kuenssberg show this Sunday

Something along the lines of
He has a bawdy sense of humour, which offends some people but over many years nobody has told him to reign it in a bit

There’s a fair few reports over recent days that several people have effectively told him to rein it in a bit.

All these posts along the lines of “well this sort of banter used to be okay, it’s just that the poor old boy just hasn’t been able to adapt” sort of baffle me.

 You’d have to be living on a desert island to not realise what passed for okay 20 years ago has been a sackable offence for last 10 years. Really not difficult to adapt.

As Blackpool Rock has suggested the way he’s handled himself is baffling if he wants to keep working for BBC. Gut feeling is that it’s just the “I’m a big enough star to get away with this” syndrome that a few TV personalities seem to suffer with.

Jeremy Clarkson seems to thrive on it. Let’s see if Greg W has enough “star appeal” to follow suit.

[catweazle]

His autobiography ghost writer has described his behaviour in pretty graphic detail.

[fredhiggins]

He's been on tele this morning in 'caught red handed'.

That's Dominic Littlewood.

[Blackpool Rock]

After the BBC announced the Xmas episodes of Masterchef weren't being shown they have had to hastily find something else to fill the program space 



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[RandomGuy99]

After the BBC announced the Xmas episodes of Masterchef weren't being shown they have had to hastily find something else to fill the program space 

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It does seem to be a major overreaction. Nobody needs this hanging over them over Christmas.  Seems to be a bit of a witchhunt now.

[Andywb]

His autobiography ghost writer has described his behaviour in pretty graphic detail.

Her testimony is the most damning yet. The behaviour she describes cannot be brushed away as a simple misjudgement. She says deliberately dropped his towel when naked to expose himself to her when they were alone at his flat....... let's see how he explains that one 

[RandomGuy99]

Her testimony is the most damning yet. The behaviour she describes cannot be brushed away as a simple misjudgement. She says deliberately dropped his towel when naked to expose himself to her when they were alone at his flat....... let's see how he explains that one 

But don't sometimes people do things in private that sometimes don't work out and are embarrassing moments?

You make a pass at someone and they're not interested?

Is that sexual harassment or an honest attempt at starting a relationship or having a random one night shag?

[DastardlyDick]

Her testimony is the most damning yet. The behaviour she describes cannot be brushed away as a simple misjudgement. She says deliberately dropped his towel when naked to expose himself to her when they were alone at his flat....... let's see how he explains that one 

That's totally unacceptable! No wonder he's on wife #4.

[chrishornx]

Her testimony is the most damning yet. The behaviour she describes cannot be brushed away as a simple misjudgement. She says deliberately dropped his towel when naked to expose himself to her when they were alone at his flat....... let's see how he explains that one 

perhaps she can explain how she finished up alone with him in his flat and how it had been allowed to go as far as him being naked to begin with ? Seems she had let it progress rather far before she complained. And if that horrified why didn't she report him ?

[maxxblue]

But don't sometimes people do things in private that sometimes don't work out and are embarrassing moments?

You make a pass at someone and they're not interested?

Is that sexual harassment or an honest attempt at starting a relationship or having a random one night shag?

Thanks Random guy - I'll try the towel trick next time I want to start a relationship - wish me luck!   

[RandomGuy99]

Thanks Random guy - I'll try the towel trick next time I want to start a relationship - wish me luck!   

I don't know... I once had a bit of a fling with a girl at university. It started with a bit of a paint fight while decorating something. We looked each other in the eye and then nothing happened.
 We returned to our hall and an hour later she came to my door complaining about paint on the back of her neck. One thing led to another and we ended up in the shower with me giving her a good clean.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

so after the good clean - down and dirty??....

[RandomGuy99]

so after the good clean - down and dirty??....

She was totally spotless everywhere.

[Blackpool Rock]

Thanks Random guy - I'll try the towel trick next time I want to start a relationship - wish me luck!   

I believe shopping in the Supermarket is a good place to pick women up, perhaps try it in the freezer section of Tesco 

[Blackpool Rock]

perhaps she can explain how she finished up alone with him in his flat and how it had been allowed to go as far as him being naked to begin with ? Seems she had let it progress rather far before she complained. And if that horrified why didn't she report him ?

According to this it was an 8AM meeting at his place to fit around his filming / schedule and he answered the door in a towel.
She'd also signed an NDA

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[lillythesavage]

perhaps she can explain how she finished up alone with him in his flat and how it had been allowed to go as far as him being naked to begin with ? Seems she had let it progress rather far before she complained. And if that horrified why didn't she report him ?

She finished the job, took the payment and signed an NDA before she was offended.  , Why not just fuck off if things were so bad.

My girlfriend brought up this subject, says he is a knob, but does not deserve trial by television news, people jumping on the bandwagon, and has not been offended by anything said about him  .

[lillythesavage]

But don't sometimes people do things in private that sometimes don't work out and are embarrassing moments?

You make a pass at someone and they're not interested?

Is that sexual harassment or an honest attempt at starting a relationship or having a random one night shag?

Anyone know how her career is going  .

Answers the door at 8am in a towel, I have done that, maybe she arrived early hoping to catch him  , no mention of agreed time but 8am seems early  , maybe rejection is behind her coming on the bandwagon  , two sides to every story.

[StingRay]

According to this it was an 8AM meeting at his place to fit around his filming / schedule and he answered the door in a towel.
She'd also signed an NDA

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I believe that you can break the terms of an NDA if you are subjected to a criminal act - not saying she was, or wasn't, just commenting on the NDA aspect.

[Adoniron]

I believe that you can break the terms of an NDA if you are subjected to a criminal act - not saying she was, or wasn't, just commenting on the NDA aspect.

The whole use of NDAs needs looking at. They are being used to conceal wrongdoing and abuse.

[jackdaw]

The whole use of NDAs needs looking at. They are being used to conceal wrongdoing and abuse.

Yes. (The purpose should be to just protect commercially sensitive information.)

[jackdaw]

Anyone know how her career is going  .

Answers the door at 8am in a towel, I have done that, maybe she arrived early hoping to catch him  , no mention of agreed time but 8am seems early  , maybe rejection is behind her coming on the bandwagon  , two sides to every story.

So you arrange for one of your office juniors to meet at your house, so you can arrange to make an early departure for a business meeting. Your relationship with her is purely work related.

You’d greet her in a towel? And a bit later let the towel drop to the ground?

Tell me…would you be surprised if it resulted in you getting sacked?

Okay we’re all guessing at this stage, but like BR I don’t see this ending well for Wallace.

It all reminds me of several star salesmen that worked for several businesses I’ve dealt with. They sell loads of stuff…and as long as the “numbers” are fantastic they get away with all kinds of iffy behaviour. Once the numbers drop…suddenly the same behaviour isn’t tolerated.

It looks like GW is more trouble than he’s worth.

[RandomGuy99]

I believe shopping in the Supermarket is a good place to pick women up, perhaps try it in the freezer section of Tesco 

I did once pickup a MILF and her cuckold husband in a supermarket. That was a fun night.

[DastardlyDick]

According to this it was an 8AM meeting at his place to fit around his filming / schedule and he answered the door in a towel.
She'd also signed an NDA

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If that's true about it being a pre arranged meeting, there's no excuse for him not to be fully dressed, or at least wearing a dressing gown. I would never answer the door in just a towel, obviously it's different in Show Biz.
There are (as others have said) two sides to every story, with the truth somewhere between the two.

[Blackpool Rock]

She finished the job, took the payment and signed an NDA before she was offended.  , Why not just fuck off if things were so bad.

My girlfriend brought up this subject, says he is a knob, but does not deserve trial by television news, people jumping on the bandwagon, and has not been offended by anything said about him  .

Really 
As with so many of these other high profile people there is a pattern of previous complaints that weren't followed through or somehow got suppressed or kicked into the long grass, only when things reached critical mass did it go public and then many others step forward realising they weren't an isolated incident.

He's used the media to help with his fame; fortune and no doubt as a gateway for his actions as it brought him into contact with more and more victims / potential victims.
Guess what the media is a fickle mistress and a double edged sword and his actions mean that he now falls on the other side.
He's getting what he's due now, 1st allegations of comments, OK perhaps a bit of banter which I don't mind but obviously some are perpetually offended but then people come forward with allegations of touching, what else may be waiting for the front pages 

[Andywb]

She finished the job, took the payment and signed an NDA before she was offended. 

No. The article says she signed the NDA as part of her contract before she started the job. If you are ghost writing a celebs biography that makes sense so the author cannot disclose things not included in the final edit of the book.

[lillythesavage]

I did once pickup a MILF and her cuckold husband in a supermarket. That was a fun night.

Oh dear, I am sure this will attract the disbelievers along with pathetic one liners  .

Beginning to think most on here do not have a life outside of paid sex and online interactions  .

That does sound like fun 

[lillythesavage]

Really 
As with so many of these other high profile people there is a pattern of previous complaints that weren't followed through or somehow got suppressed or kicked into the long grass, only when things reached critical mass did it go public and then many others step forward realising they weren't an isolated incident.

He's used the media to help with his fame; fortune and no doubt as a gateway for his actions as it brought him into contact with more and more victims / potential victims.
Guess what the media is a fickle mistress and a double edged sword and his actions mean that he now falls on the other side.
He's getting what he's due now, 1st allegations of comments, OK perhaps a bit of banter which I don't mind but obviously some are perpetually offended but then people come forward with allegations of touching, what else may be waiting for the front pages 

Yes, really, and she brought the subject up, and as a London born black woman who works in the event industry she has come across her fair share of negativity. Without stating the bleedin obvious .

Far too much of this taking offence at insignificant things, taking the money before speaking out with memory that could be skewed, and far more serious violence, particularly in London, that is covered up, kept out of the news, while this makes headlines  .

Her words not mine, the discussion was much longer, but that is the TDLR version, it actually triggered her into having the discussion.

I too was born into a minority, and could easily take offence at some things posted on here, " Pikie " and the like  , I do not and probably just as politicily incorrect as GW  . Life is too short for all this taking offence nonsense we have been trained to react to, it creates division in society, there is only one community, the human community living life together. Creating division seems to be an agenda these days.

[lillythesavage]

No. The article says she signed the NDA as part of her contract before she started the job. If you are ghost writing a celebs biography that makes sense so the author cannot disclose things not included in the final edit of the book.

Talk about stating the bleedin obvious  , most of us know how these things work 

The Ghost writer getting her day in the limelight, her face on screen, screams no publicity is bad publicity to me  , It should backfire though, who the fuck is going to trust her to ghost write in the future  .

[Blackpool Rock]

Yes, really, and she brought the subject up, and as a London born black woman who works in the event industry she has come across her fair share of negativity. Without stating the bleedin obvious .

Far too much of this taking offence at insignificant things, taking the money before speaking out with memory that could be skewed, and far more serious violence, particularly in London, that is covered up, kept out of the news, while this makes headlines  .

Her words not mine, the discussion was much longer, but that is the TDLR version, it actually triggered her into having the discussion.

I too was born into a minority, and could easily take offence at some things posted on here, " Pikie " and the like  , I do not and probably just as politicily incorrect as GW  . Life is too short for all this taking offence nonsense we have been trained to react to, it creates division in society, there is only one community, the human community living life together. Creating division seems to be an agenda these days.

So anyone who doesn't report it at the time should simply put up and shut up then 

[myothernameis]

Most work places have a harassment policy, which in my work includes racial or sexual comments.  So I would assume the BBC has a similar policy, so if I went to one of the BBC employees, and said jokingly, I have a big cock, I would be removed from the building

I have a funny feeling this might come back and bite the BBC on the ass, so if unacceptable to make such comments, why was Gregg Wallace aloud to get away with this

[RandomGuy99]

Most work places have a harassment policy, which in my work includes racial or sexual comments.  So I would assume the BBC has a similar policy, so if I went to one of the BBC employees, and said jokingly, I have a big cock, I would be removed from the building

I have a funny feeling this might come back and bite the BBC on the ass, so if unacceptable to make such comments, why was Gregg Wallace aloud to get away with this

MasterChef isn't made by the BBC. It's made by an independent production company and they sell it to the BBC. Therefore, it is really the responsibility of the separate production company not the BBC.

[timsussex]

So anyone who doesn't report it at the time should simply put up and shut up then 

no but it does make me wonder if they didnt think it was a big deal at the time

I started work 50 years ago in a job which was 50:50 M:F and all  graduate level. The "banter" was pretty biting and would result in instant dismissal today - but it was both ways and the girls (I'm in trouble already) certainly gave as good as they got.

[PumpDump]

I really don't understand the amount of publicity this is getting. When you think back to the media coverage of the paedo BBC newsreader, or the TV presenter with the wife who was grooming young men, the media seemed to be sympathetic to the individuals in those cases. Yet in this situation, where the so-called "crime" is trivial in comparison, they are hanging him out to dry. I do think him being a working-class jack the lad has a lot to do with it. If he was a middle-class woke asshole, none of this would ever have been reported on.

[jackdaw]

I really don't understand the amount of publicity this is getting. When you think back to the media coverage of the paedo BBC newsreader, or the TV presenter with the wife who was grooming young men, the media seemed to be sympathetic to the individuals in those cases. Yet in this situation, where the so-called "crime" is trivial in comparison, they are hanging him out to dry. I do think him being a working-class jack the lad has a lot to do with it. If he was a middle-class woke asshole, none of this would ever have been reported on.

I think that is a real stretch.

Remember the old lady in waiting in the Royal Household? She got in hot water for something much, much more innocuous than what Greg Wallace has done. She wasn’t a a “working class Jack the lad”. And neither is Greg…that was something he was decades ago.

It pays to live in the present, I think, rather than the “this was what I did 30 years ago” cobblers.

[Followyourdick]

Quite frankly I can’t believe some folks here defending him, it was just banter, he dropped his towel in a bid to get off with her etc etc.  FFS it’s sexual harassment, do you not understand how women feel about being harassed in this way.  Have some fucking empathy.  He’s a fucking sleazebag.  Wouldn’t happen if he was middle class and woke, I fucking despair.  Look up Kathy Burke’s description of woke on twitter.