Swingers and Sinners party - Kings Cross

[akauya]

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As I very seldom plan my punts in advance and usually visit WGs on a whim I was in the area and had some time to kill after work. Swingers and Sinners popped up on my searches. I was intrigued by the set up more than horny, so I risked a visit as it was late in the day.

ADMISSION COSTS
Single Male - £70 Early Arrival = 1pm onwards
Single Male - £50 Late Arrival = 4pm onwards
Single Females - Free
Mixed Sex Couples - Free

It's run on Thursdays from 1pm to 7pm at
The Central Station Bar
37 Wharfdale Road
Kings Cross, N1 9SD

The action takes place in the basement of the pub.

The place looked really run down and dingy, it reminded me of the seedy brothels I've been to in South America, the difference being the South American girls looked way better than this ones. I think I counted 17 women ranging from 30s to 50s. Ratio was huge; at least 5 men to a woman. Only the youngest women (only two of them, the rest were older) were giving any action and were surrounded by crowds of men. The majority of the older women were sitting down in chairs dotted around the place looking bored and giving hand jobs to guys sitting next to them. One or two gave BJs.

There was a sex swing in a room and some mattresses on the floor in some corner or other.

I think I stayed there about 5 minutes then I left, curiosity sated and made a note that if I ever get the "urge" to wonder into seedy dingy brothels best to wait for a trip to South America rather than North London.

Not recommended.

[kingmg]

Did they offer a refund as you left after 5 mins?

[akauya]

I didn't ask for it. They wouldn't give a refund anyway, why would they?

[pumps]

Thanks for the review... I've always thought about visiting this place

[Steve2]

This must be the absolute rock bottom of the party scene

[scutty brown]

Looks like this is more of a fetish club than a paid party

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[PumpDump]

Sounds bad. But I would have at least cum once before I left, to get some value for my money.

[akauya]

Looks like this is more of a fetish club than a paid party

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The venue is for hire to different clubs/groups. Swingers and Sinners is just one of the groups that hire the place.

[akauya]

This must be the absolute rock bottom of the party scene

It seems to be yes.

I miss your parties Steve. They were quality 

[Punter2024]

any swingers party with Princess Oragan aka leiaorgana is dingy and the absolute rock bottom of the swingers scene.

mattresses on the floor is here trademark 😂

[drwho]

I went to this last Thursday as well and stayed a few hours.

Came twice but only hand jobs, from the same woman.
Quite fancied a couple of the black girls there but they weren't playing

Bit of a waste of money as I paid the full £70.
Was contemplating a review.
It will be negative anyway

[PumpDump]

I went to this last Thursday as well and stayed a few hours.

Came twice but only hand jobs, from the same woman.
Quite fancied a couple of the black girls there but they weren't playing

Bit of a waste of money as I paid the full £70.
Was contemplating a review.
It will be negative anyway

What kind of shit party is that! Pay £70 in and nobody is fucking?

[drwho]

I didn't ask for it. They wouldn't give a refund anyway, why would they?

On their website it does state you can have a look around and get your money back if you leave within I think 4 minutes

[drwho]

On their website it does state you can have a look around and get your money back if you leave within I think 4 minutes

There was some fucking but it was few and far between, well oversubscribed
The best bets for getting actual sex there weren't attractive to me

[Steve2]

It seems to be yes.

I miss your parties Steve. They were quality 

Thanks mate. Not missing the stress of it at all 

[Iloveoral]

This reads more of a swingers party than a sex party.

Swingers generally anyone, sex parties are paid girls with various blokes as I understand it?

[drwho]

The girls are paid
Probably not very much
But they are paid

The event is also open to women and couples free entry.
There was only one couple who appeared to fit this category last week

[Iloveoral]

After much research and getting Davie to give me his opinion on this, we would class this as a swingers party and NOT ALLOWED as per site rules.

Moving forward no more reviews regarding this website.



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“ The majority of the older women were sitting down in chairs dotted around the place looking bored and giving hand jobs to guys sitting next to them. One or two gave BJs.”

Clearly not a sex party.

[drwho]

I did see people having sex there though, and could probably have taken the opportunity to have it but the most likely providers didn't attract me (and I'd already had sex with one of them 10 years ago at LAPC in Essex)

It disappoints me someone is taking such a hard line of allowing reviews of this type.
There is a grey area of parties of this type that appear to be offering similar opportunities to paying single guys.
A review good or bad is very helpful to know if there is at least a chance of action or not

The same goes for historical reviews of Rios.
I found them helpful in telling me to avoid that place

[Colston36]

any swingers party with Princess Oragan aka leiaorgana is dingy and the absolute rock bottom of the swingers scene.

mattresses on the floor is here trademark 😂

I assume you mean her trademark.

I have never met her; is she really absurdly slutty?

[akauya]

After much research and getting Davie to give me his opinion on this, we would class this as a swingers party and NOT ALLOWED as per site rules.

Moving forward no more reviews regarding this website.

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“ The majority of the older women were sitting down in chairs dotted around the place looking bored and giving hand jobs to guys sitting next to them. One or two gave BJs.”

Clearly not a sex party.

Despite their name "Swingers and Sinners" it is a paid sex party. It's a usual ruse by seedy organisers like these guys to pretend they are a swingers club to entice some  men and give them the illusion they are fucking non-pros. A few of the women get paid to fuck and the others to stand around semi naked to give the impression that there are loads of women available for sex.

Not trying to argue the mods' decisions; just trying to explain how this scene works.

[Colston36]

Is Leia that bad? Have you been with her?

[scutty brown]

Despite their name "Swingers and Sinners" it is a paid sex party. It's a usual ruse by seedy organisers like these guys to pretend they are a swingers club to entice some  men and give them the illusion they are fucking non-pros. A few of the women get paid to fuck and the others to stand around semi naked to give the impression that there are loads of women available for sex.

Not trying to argue the mods' decisions; just trying to explain how this scene works.

In which case it's a scam, not a "scene"

[akauya]

Is Leia that bad? Have you been with her?

I think Punter2024 is referring to this one:

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As far as I now, she's a regular to the "budget" type parties. I remember fucking her years ago when she used to go to the Pimlico parties organised by Rebecca Ryder parties in Pimlico (I'm talking years back.)

Can't remember anything extraordinary about LeaiOrgana, though. Sorry can't help more than that. She wasn't at this party though. Maybe Punter2024 saw her there at some other time.

[davidgood]

After much research and getting Davie to give me his opinion on this, we would class this as a swingers party and NOT ALLOWED as per site rules.

Moving forward no more reviews regarding this website.



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“ The majority of the older women were sitting down in chairs dotted around the place looking bored and giving hand jobs to guys sitting next to them. One or two gave BJs.”

Clearly not a sex party.

Given the discussions on these parties last year I thought the Boss had decided these parties are Sex Parties;-

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=389650.msg3961401#msg3961401

Regards,
davidgood

[davidgood]

Is Leia that bad? Have you been with her?

No, IMO. Yes, many times over the past 10 years or more.

Leia is a lady who was a swinger but decided she could make a living from sex and enjoy it at the same time.

As well as being a regular at sex parties and hosting her own parties she has done a lot of porn shoots and is available for 1 to 1s or FFM through her AW profile.

Regards,
davidgood

[Colston36]

Thanks. I love women of low repute

C:=)

[Iloveoral]

Given the discussions on these parties last year I thought the Boss had decided these parties are Sex Parties;-

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=389650.msg3961401#msg3961401

Regards,
davidgood

This is a random review of what I class as a sex party.
First one in the search list I find.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=359115

This place doesn’t sound as the same.

I have discussed this with Davie, who is in agreement that this review is more of a swingers scene.

[drwho]

Am I allowed to write a review of my visit to the same party or should I not bother?

[pantywetter]

I have looked at the events at that venue a few times.  However, I usually have a final read when I get to Kings Cross and decide against it.  It sounds pretty grotty.

[TheJ]

Thanks for the review, I've been to the venue on other occasions, sleazy is the word that sist best for me (up to you whether that a good or bad thing). Love or hate this place, its quality, the quality of the providers and service... I'd say this event is definitely a sex party, having the word Swingers in the title is only is there to entice couples.

Afterall Phoenix parties dont have phoenixes, most similar clubs/parties state that "all activities are entirely consensual between all parties."

If they put in some showers in I could/would cope, but cant make it there between work and home without ability to wash the hum of the place, so its blacklisted for me.

[akauya]

Thanks for the review, I've been to the venue on other occasions, sleazy is the word that sist best for me (up to you whether that a good or bad thing). Love or hate this place, its quality, the quality of the providers and service... I'd say this event is definitely a sex party, having the word Swingers in the title is only is there to entice couples.

Afterall Phoenix parties dont have phoenixes, most similar clubs/parties state that "all activities are entirely consensual between all parties."

If they put in some showers in I could/would cope, but cant make it there between work and home without ability to wash the hum of the place, so its blacklisted for me.

I agree with you, it's definitely a sex party whatever they decide to call themselves. Obviously the people who haven't been there know better.  Oh, and it's definitely sleazy - 100%. I had my suspicions it was sleaze central from reading previous reports here so I was curious.

Your comment about Phoenix parties made me laugh, but also shattered my illusions. I was thinking going to a Phoenix Party to shag some phoenixes but now I won't bother.

 

[scutty brown]

......................I think I counted 17 women ranging from 30s to 50s. Ratio was huge; at least 5 men to a woman. Only the youngest women (only two of them, the rest were older) were giving any action and were surrounded by crowds of men. The majority of the older women were sitting down in chairs dotted around the place looking bored and giving hand jobs to guys sitting next to them. One or two gave BJs. ..................

Just two out of 17? Doesn't sound like a sex party to me.

[Steely Dan]

Just two out of 17? Doesn't sound like a sex party to me.

He was only there 5 minutes.  It is unknown if they had sex during the other 5 hours and 55 minutes or not.

[Iloveoral]

If I went to a swingers party, what would the difference be, compared to this event?
I’m trying to differentiate.
Friend of mine does swingers in Derby, he pays to enter, sometimes gets lucky, nothing guaranteed.
Sounds like this place.

[Iloveoral]

Am I allowed to write a review of my visit to the same party or should I not bother?

If you wouldn’t mind holding that please for now.
I’m not being overly twatty just trying to understand as in my head and another mod, it’s against the rules.
Let me see where this goes, I appreciate the question rather than just posting, giving me something else to deal with 

I’ve asked the boss’s option, will be back on this one.

[drwho]

What's happening with the mods on here in the past month or so?



They quibble whether we're allowed to pass on useful information about sex parties or not

Edit out the useful comments on the review subject headers

Then take a dig at those reluctant to add to their existing reviews

[90125]

What's happening with the mods on here in the past month or so?

 

[akauya]

If I went to a swingers party, what would the difference be, compared to this event?
I’m trying to differentiate.
Friend of mine does swingers in Derby, he pays to enter, sometimes gets lucky, nothing guaranteed.
Sounds like this place.

Hi ILO,

I have been swinging (both as a single man and with female partners/lovers) for many years as well as punting so I'm pretty confident in distinguishing a real swingers party to one where the women are paid to attend and fuck the guys. I am also well aware of the rules about not discussing/reviewing swingers parties. If I had been 100% confident it was a swingers party I wouldn't have posted this at all. In fact I posted a review of Hot Horny Vanessa after an aborted visit to a real/bona fide swingers party.

I went to 'Swingers and Sinners' late in the day and stayed barely enough time to get any action, the ratio of guys to women was ridiculously high and the place looked so dingy I didn't find it appealing at all*. For all I  now, the women sitting down on chairs might have been having a well earned break, but as I said I didn't stay long enough to find out.

To answer your question: "If I went to a swingers party, what would the difference be, compared to this event?" There would have been couples, lots of them and fewer single men. Also it would have the feel of a real social party with sex in between. Also, bona fide swingers parties restrict the numbers of single men to parties unless it's expressly organised as a 'greedy girls/gangbang' event. Swingers and Sinners is not, they are playing the numbers, they advertise as having 20+ women and the entrance fee is relatively cheap so as to get as many paying punters as possible whilst giving the appearance of a swingers party.

I really don't mind what the mods decide, the purpose of this review was (as always) to inform fellow UKP punters so they are aware of the quality of the event if they decide to go there. Whether the mods agree with me or not at least fellow UKP punters will be able to find this post if they search for it.

Cheers.

* The fact that the place was dingy/sleazy might be tempting in itself for some punters who may be looking for that. As another poster mentioned above, sleaziness may appeal to some folk. As they say, whatever rocks your boat. It didn't appeal to me but it may appeal to others. I'm not one to judge.

[MissWolf]

Hi ILO,

I have been swinging (both as a single man and with female partners/lovers) for many years as well as punting so I'm pretty confident in distinguishing a real swingers party to one where the women are paid to attend and fuck the guys. I am also well aware of the rules about not discussing/reviewing swingers parties. If I had been 100% confident it was a swingers party I wouldn't have posted this at all. In fact I posted a review of Hot Horny Vanessa after an aborted visit to a real/bona fide swingers party.

I went to 'Swingers and Sinners' late in the day and stayed barely enough time to get any action, the ratio of guys to women was ridiculously high and the place looked so dingy I didn't find it appealing at all*. For all I  now, the women sitting down on chairs might have been having a well earned break, but as I said I didn't stay long enough to find out.

To answer your question: "If I went to a swingers party, what would the difference be, compared to this event?" There would have been couples, lots of them and fewer single men. Also it would have the feel of a real social party with sex in between. Also, bona fide swingers parties restrict the numbers of single men to parties unless it's expressly organised as a 'greedy girls/gangbang' event. Swingers and Sinners is not, they are playing the numbers, they advertise as having 20+ women and the entrance fee is relatively cheap so as to get as many paying punters as possible whilst giving the appearance of a swingers party.

I really don't mind what the mods decide, the purpose of this review was (as always) to inform fellow UKP punters so they are aware of the quality of the event if they decide to go there. Whether the mods agree with me or not at least fellow UKP punters will be able to find this post if they search for it.

Cheers.

* The fact that the place was dingy/sleazy might be tempting in itself for some punters who may be looking for that. As another poster mentioned above, sleaziness may appeal to some folk. As they say, whatever rocks your boat. It didn't appeal to me but it may appeal to others. I'm not one to judge.

Sorry but I not entirely sure I agree with you, I've been to several singers parties and clubs while on the swinging scene prior to escorting.

There were a good few couples, a rare few single women and a bloody rash of single men, I had an audience at one of at least 30 guys while meant my partner for the night were fucking,  the hardest thing was stopping the single guys from touching and trying to join in uninvited.

There were like the above 'review' only a couple of girls fucking who were taking on more than one at a time etc, I read the above and thought it sounded exactly like the stingers parties I've been to.

[Iloveoral]

I’ve put it back as a review after discussing with the team.

[Iloveoral]

What's happening with the mods on here in the past month or so?



They quibble whether we're allowed to pass on useful information about sex parties or not

Edit out the useful comments on the review subject headers

Then take a dig at those reluctant to add to their existing reviews

You’ve been here since 2013, have you ever read the rules?

I’m not quibbling about a sex party I’m trying  to understand if it breaks the rules

17 Dogging / Swinging / Webcamming / Phone Chat / Porn
Not Allowed.

Edit out useful comments? Are you stupid we don’t need “she in the new house” or she’s 5’4” with big tits” in the subject, especially from helpers that haven’t wrote the review.
Again as per the rules.

The title of the review should only have SP Name - Location - (b&s / toftt label if needed), and there are no abbreviations of establishments in the title of a review.

Where did I take a dig at you adding to your existing review?

Or this bit where you didn’t read the rules again?

To answer my own question - it's not the same Tasha

I found their twitter
removed - no socials - read the rules  
Don't think I'll bother

I’d start reading up, there’s a link at the bottom of every page

[Iloveoral]

Hi ILO,

I have been swinging (both as a single man and with female partners/lovers) for many years as well as punting so I'm pretty confident in distinguishing a real swingers party to one where the women are paid to attend and fuck the guys. I am also well aware of the rules about not discussing/reviewing swingers parties. If I had been 100% confident it was a swingers party I wouldn't have posted this at all. In fact I posted a review of Hot Horny Vanessa after an aborted visit to a real/bona fide swingers party.

I went to 'Swingers and Sinners' late in the day and stayed barely enough time to get any action, the ratio of guys to women was ridiculously high and the place looked so dingy I didn't find it appealing at all*. For all I  now, the women sitting down on chairs might have been having a well earned break, but as I said I didn't stay long enough to find out.

To answer your question: "If I went to a swingers party, what would the difference be, compared to this event?" There would have been couples, lots of them and fewer single men. Also it would have the feel of a real social party with sex in between. Also, bona fide swingers parties restrict the numbers of single men to parties unless it's expressly organised as a 'greedy girls/gangbang' event. Swingers and Sinners is not, they are playing the numbers, they advertise as having 20+ women and the entrance fee is relatively cheap so as to get as many paying punters as possible whilst giving the appearance of a swingers party.

I really don't mind what the mods decide, the purpose of this review was (as always) to inform fellow UKP punters so they are aware of the quality of the event if they decide to go there. Whether the mods agree with me or not at least fellow UKP punters will be able to find this post if they search for it.

Cheers.

* The fact that the place was dingy/sleazy might be tempting in itself for some punters who may be looking for that. As another poster mentioned above, sleaziness may appeal to some folk. As they say, whatever rocks your boat. It didn't appeal to me but it may appeal to others. I'm not one to judge.

Thanks for your explanation, it’s very helpful thank you, I’ve moved it back as a review, thanks for your patience 

[scutty brown]

Thanks for your explanation, it’s very helpful thank you, I’ve moved it back as a review, thanks for your patience 

You've restored it as a positive - should it not be negative?

[Iloveoral]

You've restored it as a positive - should it not be negative?

Yeah please