Tommy Robinson case is thrown out as his supporters say it is a "win"

[daviemac]

Okay that's fine, I don't want to break the rules, but if people are interested they can go find all 5 episode themselves.

Exactly, if people want to view the crap he spouts they can find it on the internet, we don't need his fan boys shoving it down our throats.

[Jerboa]

WTF would anyone be interested in what that criminal gobshite has to say?   

Let the films speak for themselves, or don't you believe the survivors of the rape gangs? 

[finn5555]

WTF would anyone be interested in what that criminal gobshite has to say?   

The issue is how much of it is true as the source it comes from isn’t exactly respected

[daviemac]

The issue is how much of it is true as the source it comes from isn’t exactly respected

Like several on here, ulterior motives and selective reporting of facts plays a massive part.

[Jerboa]

Like several on here, ulterior motives and selective reporting of facts plays a massive part.

Okay, here are some facts about Telford, population of 166,000 so 88,00 men, take out kids under 16 and men over 65, that's 53,000 Telford has a Pakistani population of 1.8% which is very small, so that's roughly 1000 men.
Out of those 1000 the police found 200 suspects, and 100 victims, so 20% of Pakistani men in Telford were raping young girls, unless men travelled there to abuse them.

[daviemac]

Okay, here are some facts about Telford, population of 166,000 so 88,00 men, take out kids under 16 and men over 65, that's 53,000 Telford has a Pakistani population of 1.8% which is very small, so that's roughly 1000 men.
Out of those 1000 the police found 200 suspects, and 100 victims, so 20% of Pakistani men in Telford were raping young girls, unless men travelled there to abuse them.

See what I mean about selective reporting of 'facts'? what you say here is pure speculation, you have no idea of actual population figures let alone whether or not those suspects should even be included in Telford's population.

Give it up mate, you are making a fool of yourself.

BTW I'll repeat what I said on the other thread so any reply from you to me will be totally ignored. 

[scutty brown]

Okay, here are some facts about Telford, population of 166,000 so 88,00 men, take out kids under 16 and men over 65, that's 53,000 Telford has a Pakistani population of 1.8% which is very small, so that's roughly 1000 men.
Out of those 1000 the police found 200 suspects, and 100 victims, so 20% of Pakistani men in Telford were raping young girls, unless men travelled there to abuse them.

So what's that got to do with Robinson? He wasn't on the Telford enquiry
And where are you getting your figures from? They appear not to match any I can find.
Only vaguely firm figures I've seen are around 1000 girls affected over a 40 year period. That would average out to ~25 recruits per year. Assume they average four years that suggests around 100 girls affected at any given time. That's assuming the claims are genuine and not inflated. Whenever I read "independent report" I immediately think "amateurs with unproven methodology".
FWIW AW currently shows 29 girls in Telford, 42 on VS
Key thing to remember is these "loverboy" techniques to ensnare the girls aren't new. They've been around for years but people mostly hear about them in relation to Romanian, Albanian or other EE girls. Or Chinese or Brazilian. But no-one gives a damn about those. Foreign girls being forced to work here are ignored. But Tommy and his fuckwits concentrate the attention on inflated numbers of British girls

[Jerboa]

See what I mean about selective reporting of 'facts'? what you say here is pure speculation, you have no idea of actual population figures let alone whether or not those suspects should even be included in Telford's population.

Give it up mate, you are making a fool of yourself.

BTW I'll repeat what I said on the other thread so any reply from you to me will be totally ignored.

It's quite simple to find out the population of a town and it's demographics, it's not speculation Operation Chalice published their findings, the law firm that did the public inquiry found 250 suspects.

[daviemac]

It's quite simple to find out the population of a town and it's demographics, it's not speculation Operation Chalice published their findings, the law firm that did the public inquiry found 250 suspects.

[puntingking]

WTF would anyone be interested in what that criminal gobshite has to say?   

It sounds like he is touting Tommy Robinson 

[DastardlyDick]

Okay, here are some facts about Telford, population of 166,000 so 88,00 men, take out kids under 16 and men over 65, that's 53,000 Telford has a Pakistani population of 1.8% which is very small, so that's roughly 1000 men.
Out of those 1000 the police found 200 suspects, and 100 victims, so 20% of Pakistani men in Telford were raping young girls, unless men travelled there to abuse them.

Facts according to who?  Tommy Ten names?

[Jerboa]

It sounds like he is touting Tommy Robinson 

Again it looks like people hate Tommy more than they have compassion for the victims, I'm not sure what's funny, watch the films, the poor women are in bits talking about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the Benali gang.

[Jerboa]

Facts according to who?  Tommy Ten names?

This is like pulling teeth, it's in operation chalice how many suspects the police found in Telford, then look up the population of Telford and the demographics, I'm sure you could work that out.

[Blackpool Rock]

This is like pulling teeth, it's in operation chalice how many suspects the police found in Telford, then look up the population of Telford and the demographics, I'm sure you could work that out.

Perhaps provide the links then to your statistics and "evidence" so we can verify your data / claim 

[scutty brown]

This is like pulling teeth, it's in operation chalice how many suspects the police found in Telford, then look up the population of Telford and the demographics, I'm sure you could work that out.

How many suspects the police found or the law firm ? You said that "the public inquiry found 250 suspects."
Firstly - they're suspects not perpetrators.
Second WTF does a law firm know about organised trafficking and prostitution?
Thirdly - was it a public enquiry? I thought it was another independent effort with no declared methodology

[puntingking]

Again it looks like people hate Tommy more than they have compassion for the victims, I'm not sure what's funny, watch the films, the poor women are in bits talking about the abuse they suffered at the hands of the Benali gang.

Members here would know that I am actually more sympathetic to the Tommy Robinson view. I did start this thread and you can't say that I "hate" him.
I am honestly getting more angered by him though in recent times.
Maybe my mind/view has changed  about him. 

I am not going to talk about the victims because it is not right to make or try to win (sorry to speak) an argument or trying to get somebody to understand your viewpoint off the backs of the victims. No matter which side of the fence you are on, it is not the right thing to do. 

[puntingking]

maybe we can put this thread to bed within this century 

[Jerboa]

How many suspects the police found or the law firm ? You said that "the public inquiry found 250 suspects."
Firstly - they're suspects not perpetrators.
Second WTF does a law firm know about organised trafficking and prostitution?
Thirdly - was it a public enquiry? I thought it was another independent effort with no declared methodology

The Independent Inquiry into Telford Child Sexual Exploitation (IITCSE), chaired by Tom Crowther KC, was published in July 2022. It investigated historic, non-recent child sexual exploitation (CSE) in the borough dating back to 1989.
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[Jerboa]

Members here would know that I am actually more sympathetic to the Tommy Robinson view. I did start this thread and you can't say that I "hate" him.
I am honestly getting more angered by him though in recent times.
Maybe my mind/view has changed  about him. 

I am not going to talk about the victims because it is not right to make or try to win (sorry to speak) an argument or trying to get somebody to understand your viewpoint off the backs of the victims. No matter which side of the fence you are on, it is not the right thing to do. 

You were the one suggesting I was touting for Tommy, go watch the Rape of Britain films, then come back and call me a tout.

[mh]

Let's tone down the homophobic remarks, good sir. You have visited transsexual escorts and paid them cash to suck on their penises.

I do realise I am replying to someone who is temp banned right now, but I must clarify that I did not make a homophobic remark. Sucking cocks is fine. It is all about whose cock one is sucking.

[Doc Holliday]

You were the one suggesting I was touting for Tommy, go watch the Rape of Britain films, then come back and call me a tout.

I am curious as to what you are hoping to achieve by prolonging a thread, which is a little over two years old and with circa 1700 posts from a very small cross section of contributing members?

The topic/subject matter ie TR is strongly divisive in nature. There is very little middle ground. I doubt anyone who has posted will have changed their overall view of him during the life of this thread? Happy to be proved wrong if someone posts otherwise?

So what is your objective here? In particular given the growing toxicity and hostility in certain threads and in particular the latest banning of a member, is there an end game for you?

[Jerboa]

I am curious as to what you are hoping to achieve by prolonging a thread, which is a little over two years old and with circa 1700 posts from a very small cross section of contributing members?

The topic/subject matter ie TR is strongly divisive in nature. There is very little middle ground. I doubt anyone who has posted will have changed their overall view of him during the life of this thread? Happy to be proved wrong if someone posts otherwise?

So what is your objective here? In particular given the growing toxicity and hostility in certain threads and in particular the latest banning of a member, is there an end game for you?

Yes I understand Tommy is a marmite character, however my point is that his work speaks for itself, you don't have to like him to watch his work, the in depth investigation in Telford shows you a microcosm of the country. The Benali drug gang controls drugs and prostitution, with evidence that the local police and council turned a blind eye, if that has happened in a small town like Telford with a small Pakistani population, what do we think is happening around the country.

[daviemac]

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[Bangman]

I once had a physical fight with a pakistani man, I fought him, He ended up having a black eye...

So you got beat up by a Pakistani man. Calling people cowards from behind a screen makes you . . . brave?

Thanks for confirming, you have difficulty understanding the English language.
Maybe I should STOP doing what you do, Type, behind a screen 😂.
Here's a reminder of your words. Your clearly implying you would still support Tommy if he was a serial rapist killer  because he was apparantly right about something.. You chose to mention Boston Strangler, unless you failed to check who the Boston Strangler is.

It wouldn't matter if TR/SYL was revealed to be the Boston Strangler, Zodiac, and the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler all rolled into one - he's right about the industrial-scale rape of white British children

Your comment will be on this post whenever you wish to re check it.

You've made a few false allegations there, You said I demonised all Pakistanis and you accused me of cherry picking over skin tone

Err No. You asked for my opinion, and i gave MY opinion. I didnt say you, Do you struggle to read?

I don't cherry pick based on skin tone. A criminal is a criminal,
I know what grifting, manipulation and propaganda is.
I dont beleive in demonising a entire community because a bigot, criminal grifter, who gets paid to do so, and asks for donations.

I = means Myself..

If you choose to support Tommy, then you endorse his opinions, selective anger depending on the criminals skin tone or race and blaming a entire community.

So once again, thanks for confirming you really are illeterate and a liar.. Just like serial liar TR and his followers..
At this point, you might as well say what you want and think its true In your head..
Pigs can fly,
You came back from Neverland,
Your neighbour is a alien from Saturn,
Tommys a hero,
You dont have a gay crush on Tommy....whatever u say!

You clearly have issues in the head and struggle to read and understand English.

and im Being serious, if you do have head pains from time to time and as a result, it makes you very angry..then I suggest you see a doctor or psychiatrist.

Responding to you is like responding to a child with high level autism, so probably best for me to leave you to your migraines and not respond directly to you.

[Bangman]

I must clarify that I did not make a homophobic remark. Sucking cocks is fine. It is all about whose cock one is sucking.

His a funny one, he gets so offended and defensive when someone uses the word gay.. and his the one who has a man crush on Tommy.
If you find TR handsome or sexy, that's totally your choice.
I suspect his confused about his sexuality or doesn't want to admit it.
Ive caught him lying, way too many times.

[Bangman]

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🤣🤣😍😂 I can literally picture Jerboa singing this is the bathroom.

[finn5555]

🤣🤣😍😂 I can literally picture Jerboa singing this is the bathroom.

Whilst bashing one out looking at his photo collection of TR 

[Doc Holliday]

Yes I understand Tommy is a marmite character, however my point is that his work speaks for itself, you don't have to like him to watch his work, the in depth investigation in Telford shows you a microcosm of the country. The Benali drug gang controls drugs and prostitution, with evidence that the local police and council turned a blind eye, if that has happened in a small town like Telford with a small Pakistani population, what do we think is happening around the country.

Yes many are indeed concerned about what is happening around the country but my post was about the balance of any value versus negative impact on the forum by the the continuation of this thread about TR.

You haven't answered any of my questions in relation to that.

I am curious as to what you are hoping to achieve by prolonging a thread, which is a little over two years old and with circa 1700 posts from a very small cross section of contributing members?

The topic/subject matter ie TR is strongly divisive in nature. There is very little middle ground. I doubt anyone who has posted will have changed their overall view of him during the life of this thread? Happy to be proved wrong if someone posts otherwise?

So what is your objective here? In particular given the growing toxicity and hostility in certain threads and in particular the latest banning of a member, is there an end game for you?

[Doc Holliday]

@ Bangman. You seem to have a wish to become extinct?

[Bangman]

@ Bangman. You seem to have a wish to become extinct?

Not at all, I always adhere to rules and policies.
Yes, i can at times be blunt when I respond to people who are less intellectual, otherwise, if you see all my reviews, im very polite and helpful and have contributed a lot of toftt on this website.

That Snagbadger wierdo made up about 5 lies in one paragraph, surely im allowed to respond.
He assumed and called me old, I might be old enough to be his father's age, who knows.
Jokes aside, i'm in my late 40s.

[Doc Holliday]

Not at all, I always adhere to rules and policies.

But not to moderators warnings to tone it down?

[Jerboa]

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Good song, but I prefer this one.  External Link/Members Only

[daviemac]

Good song, but I prefer this one.  External Link/Members Only

That comes as no surprise to me, I suppose it would appeal to all his arse lickers.

As an aside, a few years ago Northumbria police used a convicted sex offender to help identify members of a grooming gang so I presume he must be classed as a hero like TR?   

(Not by me BTW)

[Jerboa]

That comes as no surprise to me, I suppose it would appeal to all his arse lickers.

As an aside, a few years ago Northumbria police used a convicted sex offender to help identify members of a grooming gang so I presume he must be classed as a hero like TR?   

(Not by me BTW)

See this just shows your hatred, you morally class Tommy as bad as a sex offender, that says a lot more about you, than it does about Tommy. 

[daviemac]

See this just shows your hatred, you morally class Tommy as bad as a sex offender, that says a lot more about you, than it does about Tommy. 

No that's you reading something that isn't there just so it suits your narrative.

You say TR is a hero for helping identify sex offenders so if identifying sex offenders make one a hero by your logic the convicted sex offender who did the same must also be a hero.

[Bigwilts]

WTF would anyone be interested in what that criminal gobshite has to say?   

Because he’s very insightful and is always right

England are going to win the World Cup apparently, how’s that worked out?


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[Jerboa]

Because he’s very insightful and is always right

England are going to win the World Cup apparently, how’s that worked out?


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[whiskyfan]

Hope he sues Tommy into oblivion.

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[RadioKid]

Hope he sues Tommy into oblivion.

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Hopefully.

Though he'll probably get his dopey supporters to donate to him again 

[Bangman]

Tommy the wanker lies so much, i remember last year he did the same, a Caribbean man playing with his grandkids in the park, the dick head Tommy posts a fake news about him to his dopey followers..
This guy has said he is talking to his legal team, which prompted the serial liar skum bag to apologise for lying, perhaps he doesn't want another court case bill, but at the end of the day, he has so many thick followers who will donate, so he probably won't be  bothered.

[whiskyfan]

Tommy accuses innocent people but can't spot the nonce in his own ranks even when standing right beside him.

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Him and his dim supporters are an embarrassment.

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[Bigwilts]

Tommy the wanker lies so much, i remember last year he did the same, a Caribbean man playing with his grandkids in the park, the dick head Tommy posts a fake news about him to his dopey followers..
This guy has said he is talking to his legal team, which prompted the serial liar skum bag to apologise for lying, perhaps he doesn't want another court case bill, but at the end of the day, he has so many thick followers who will donate, so he probably won't be  bothered.

Tommy achieved what he wanted with the  footage of both of those - a father and a grand father  - and also with the schoolboy

He “apologised” for every one of those, confirming that he was “misinformed”.
But leaves up the footage

With the schoolboy the case didn’t go away, so he also made a new film repeating it and was found liable in court.  So he became bankrupt

Changing people’s lives for his hate agenda

 

[DastardlyDick]

Hopefully.

Though he'll probably get his dopey supporters to donate to him again 

I thought Musk was bankrolling him these days? 

[Bigwilts]

I thought Musk was bankrolling him these days? 

That doesn’t stop Tommy asking for more, it only meant that he took down one fundraising request because Musk publicly announced that he was paying for that case

It’s hard to keep up with Tommy’s court dates, Musk did fund his defence for not giving access to his phone when leaving the country, but also had at least two other cases hanging over him with contempt of court and harassment of journalists.  At least one of those was confirmed by Musk as not being funded



My Tommy newsletter email did have one edition recently that didn’t ask for money for a change.  Shortly followed by a fundraiser for cameras

[Bigwilts]

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No, just sarcastic

[Jerboa]

Tommy achieved what he wanted with the  footage of both of those - a father and a grand father  - and also with the schoolboy

He “apologised” for every one of those, confirming that he was “misinformed”.
But leaves up the footage

With the schoolboy the case didn’t go away, so he also made a new film repeating it and was found liable in court.  So he became bankrupt

Changing people’s lives for his hate agenda

Jamal the Syrian boy was a violent little shit, but the truth got in the way of the official narrative, no other journalists actually investigated the Huddersfield school incident, they just repeated the government talking points.
While a single parent family had to flee their home, because of many death & rape threats, and the council did nothing, the young lad Bailey was close to suicide with the amount of hate he received, including Prick Morgan on GMB calling him vermin and hoped he would face severe retribution.

[Bangman]

No, just sarcastic

Tommys fan boys won't get it. Jerboa is still repeating the same old lie his been exposed already,  early in this thread,  the facist keeps repeating the things his been debunked on. I still remember Jerboa giving the big one about the Syrian boy, when I told Jerboa that Tommy himself made a video apologising that he lied about the boy because someone lied to him, Jerboa responded thats a absolute lie, his Hero can never do that and to prove it, when i attached a link, i think Jerboas response was, something about who cares about The sun newspaper. Even though this video was from Tommys Facebook, (account and video deleted by facebook) but The sun did a article on this around that time as did others, so its still there.

At this stage, it tommy asks his bootlickers to open their mouths, cos he need to piss, they will happily swallow. Embarassing behaviour from his bootlicking Dopey Followers. My advice is let them carry on having a hard on for Tiny Tommy and let them donate their hard earned money or benefit money (whichever it is) to TRs cocaine routines.

[Bigwilts]

Jamal the Syrian boy was a violent little shit, but the truth got in the way of the official narrative, no other journalists actually investigated the Huddersfield school incident, they just repeated the government talking points.
While a single parent family had to flee their home, because of many death & rape threats, and the council did nothing, the young lad Bailey was close to suicide with the amount of hate he received, including Prick Morgan on GMB calling him vermin and hoped he would face severe retribution.

Correct in the sense that both Bailey and Jamal face the consequences of Tommy exploiting a schoolboy fight

No coincidence that brother Reece, cocaine smuggler is best buddies with Tommy

[whiskyfan]

Tommys fan boys won't get it. Jerboa is still repeating the same old lie his been exposed already,  early in this thread,  the facist keeps repeating the things his been debunked on. I still remember Jerboa giving the big one about the Syrian boy, when I told Jerboa that Tommy himself made a video apologising that he lied about the boy because someone lied to him, Jerboa responded thats a absolute lie, his Hero can never do that and to prove it, when i attached a link, i think Jerboas response was, something about who cares about The sun newspaper. Even though this video was from Tommys Facebook, (account and video deleted by facebook) but The sun did a article on this around that time as did others, so its still there.

At this stage, it tommy asks his bootlickers to open their mouths, cos he need to piss, they will happily swallow. Embarassing behaviour from his bootlicking Dopey Followers. My advice is let them carry on having a hard on for Tiny Tommy and let them donate their hard earned money or benefit money (whichever it is) to TRs cocaine routines.

This forum has seen many pimps, touts and white knights over the years but Jerboa's fawning over Tommy is probably the most cringe worthy and embarrassing of the lot.

[Jerboa]

Tommys fan boys won't get it. Jerboa is still repeating the same old lie his been exposed already,  early in this thread,  the facist keeps repeating the things his been debunked on. I still remember Jerboa giving the big one about the Syrian boy, when I told Jerboa that Tommy himself made a video apologising that he lied about the boy because someone lied to him, Jerboa responded thats a absolute lie, his Hero can never do that and to prove it, when i attached a link, i think Jerboas response was, something about who cares about The sun newspaper. Even though this video was from Tommys Facebook, (account and video deleted by facebook) but The sun did a article on this around that time as did others, so its still there.

At this stage, it tommy asks his bootlickers to open their mouths, cos he need to piss, they will happily swallow. Embarassing behaviour from his bootlicking Dopey Followers. My advice is let them carry on having a hard on for Tiny Tommy and let them donate their hard earned money or benefit money (whichever it is) to TRs cocaine routines.

It's quite simple to understand, when he's wrong he will apologise, the mum who contacted Tommy regarding the allegations, was threatened with harm if she didn't retract her post about Jamal. Tommy then travelled up to Huddersfield, and used hidden cameras to get the truth. But as you only watched a few minutes of the film Silenced, you wouldn't know that.