Russell Brand

[Squire Haggard]

Has J Ross got the bullet as well? What did he get up to?
I never liked Brand, but Ross was ok when he did the film reviews. Must say I don’t really follow all the other stuff that people get up to. Both men seemed a bit obsessed with their own cocks.

Ross was suspended from the BBC for his part in the Andrew Sachs thing. He might be OK doing interviews but I never watched much of his own show. Generally, he's not in the same league as Brand as a member of the Wankerati.

[JontyR]

Toxic masculinity is a bad phrase but basically it means males infringing the rights of women by their words or actions.

Did you mean something else? Because this is a really bad definition, but I'm guessing thats for a different thread. 

[jeanphillipe]

Pissed off big pharma and whole bunch of others in power.

Dig deep and you will find shit on anyone.

Easy to find shit on brand since he lived such a promiscuous life style could well be guilty

Definatley not a fan of trial by media and twitter though if should be innocent untill proven guilty.

If you watch some of his videos he has rarely if never peddled fake news and uses data he reads from official sources.

He points out a lot of coincidence maybe they just are coincidences. Dozens of them though

[Jonestown]

There is more than one way to skin a cat, if they want to shut him down they don't need a successful prosecution on rape or sexual harassment, they can do as they are doing now, causing sufficient concern around his presence on media platforms that the owners shut him down of there own volition. You are seeing this now with advertisers pulling their business from Rumble as they don't want to be on the same platform as his channels.

[PepeMAGA]

Ross was suspended from the BBC for his part in the Andrew Sachs thing. He might be OK doing interviews but I never watched much of his own show. Generally, he's not in the same league as Brand as a member of the Wankerati.

Specifically on that event, I don't know why there wasn't more action taken against both of them, except their apparent popularity. Filmed purposely harassing someone with no provocation.

[Ali Katt]

Specifically on that event, I don't know why there wasn't more action taken against both of them, except their apparent popularity. Filmed purposely harassing someone with no provocation.

Because Sachs didn't prosecute?

[akauya]

Apologies if this has been observed before on this thread... I find it interesting that out there in social media Russel Brand seems to have the BBC effect. Some people on the right think he's a leftie and some people on the left think he's a right-winger.   

[David1970]

Apologies if this has been observed before on this thread... I find it interesting that out there in social media Russel Brand seems to have the BBC effect. Some people on the right think he's a leftie and some people on the left think he's a right-winger.   

And some people know he is an obnoxious dick.

[PumpDump]

Apologies if this has been observed before on this thread... I find it interesting that out there in social media Russel Brand seems to have the BBC effect. Some people on the right think he's a leftie and some people on the left think he's a right-winger.   

Many people are lazy and eager to label people so they fit nicely in a box, then they can decide if they like or hate them. Saves them from having to listen to the person and make up their own mind. Baaaahhhhh.

[Jonestown]

And some people know he is an obnoxious dick.

It becomes evermore apparent that the majority of people who seek the public eye qualify as "obnoxious dicks", even the saintly Holly Willoughby is looking a little tarnished post Good Morning Britain upheavals.

[RedKettle]

And some people know he is an obnoxious dick.

100%. (Not that it means he is guilty.)

[Marmalade]

The litany of allegations
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[scutty brown]

A just punishment for Brand would be to condemn him to having Jo Brand as his only sexual partner for the rest of his live

[Marmalade]

A just punishment for Brand would be to condemn him to having Jo Brand as his only sexual partner for the rest of his live

I think Katherine Ryan might want to get in there to offer a bilateral orchiectomy first!!

[kuck]

Apologies if this has been observed before on this thread... I find it interesting that out there in social media Russel Brand seems to have the BBC effect. Some people on the right think he's a leftie and some people on the left think he's a right-winger.   

Haha true, I think I put him on the right for his entertaining covid views, but he does hold, or at least historically held, a lot of looney leftie views. Maybe the horseshoe theory at work.

[badsin]

A just punishment for Brand would be to condemn him to having Jo Brand as his only sexual partner for the rest of his live

A cruel and unusual punishment......of the two Brand's who would pull the funniest face upon hearing this?

[mills_and_bhuna]

Many people are lazy and eager to label people so they fit nicely in a box, then they can decide if they like or hate them. Saves them from having to listen to the person and make up their own mind. Baaaahhhhh.

you've noticed that as well?......

[mills_and_bhuna]

Haha true, I think I put him on the right for his entertaining covid views, but he does hold, or at least historically held, a lot of looney leftie views. Maybe the horseshoe theory at work.

go on then.
I like to be entertained.
What are these views that you find so funny?

[Marmalade]

A cruel and unusual punishment......of the two Brand's who would pull the funniest face upon hearing this?

I recall Brand made an occasionally funny joke when she started up. In later years she appears to be a whiner who specialises in looking as unattractive as possible.

[mills_and_bhuna]

Interesting how not one of the usual suspects seem to see this as suspiciously timed and coordinated.
The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.
That UK government spokesperson being married to someone high up in the 77th Brigade (the censorship arm of the armed forces).
This is fascism writ large.
Due process out the window.
Trial by Corporate media.
And these same people will accuse Russell Brand of 'spouting right wing talking points'.
Proof that some idiots will accept tyranny as long as its their team doing it

[jackdaw]

Does anybody really see Russell Brand as some one that big business would seriously see as a threat??

His “humour” and style of behaviour is just too big a misfit for current moral climate..after years of pushing his luck, his luck has run out.

(Just for the “record”, I do agree that likes of YouTube should not be able to continue showing his videos at same time as not paying him. They should be forced to make a choice, if not willing to pay him, the videos should come down.)

[SoapyTW]

Does anybody really see Russell Brand as some one that big business would seriously see as a threat??

He has 6.6mill subscribers on youTube, and his videos are often watched my more than a million people. For comparisons sake, BBC News peak *monthly* viewing figures are 12 million.

Tucker recently ran an interview on Twitter that had 16million views on the day (and 150m+ total) whilst his old platform, Fox news, hit 2 mill for the same time slot when showing the republican presidential debate.

These guys have reach. And are articulate and persuasive. They are 100% platforms to be afraid of.

[jackdaw]

He has 6.6mill subscribers on youTube, and his videos are often watched my more than a million people. For comparisons sake, BBC News peak *monthly* viewing figures are 12 million.

Tucker recently ran an interview on Twitter that had 16million views on the day (and 150m+ total) whilst his old platform, Fox news, hit 2 mill for the same time slot when showing the republican presidential debate.

These guys have reach. And are articulate and persuasive. They are 100% platforms to be afraid of.

He’s part of the system…the licensed court jester. Nothing he ever did was ever going to alter anything.

[Squire Haggard]

Another wild eyed lookalike 'influencer'' was Rasputin. He was eventually shot but I think that Russel Brand will survive, but maybe with diminished status.
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Maybe Brand is a reincarnation of Rasputin.

''Rumors multiplied that Rasputin had assaulted female followers and behaved inappropriately on visits with the imperial family—and particularly with Nicholas's teenage daughters Olga and Tatyana.''

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[Marmalade]

I see MB has a wee confirmation bias thing going. No surprises eh.

[Private Parts]

Interesting how not one of the usual suspects seem to see this as suspiciously timed and coordinated.
The UK government pressuring social media companies to cut off his income.
That UK government spokesperson being married to someone high up in the 77th Brigade (the censorship arm of the armed forces).
This is fascism writ large.
Due process out the window.
Trial by Corporate media.
And these same people will accuse Russell Brand of 'spouting right wing talking points'.
Proof that some idiots will accept tyranny as long as its their team doing it

Not sure this is the correct thread to start talking about Fascism and tyrrany.

It’s purely about Russell Brand being a fick c*nt who annoys.
IMHO

[PumpDump]

Not sure this is the correct thread to start talking about Fascism and tyrrany.

It’s purely about Russell Brand being a fick c*nt who annoys.
IMHO

It's not about that actually. It's about men who go against the official narrative being silenced.

[Marmalade]

It's not about that actually. It's about men who go against the official narrative being silenced.

Some official narratives are quite good. Laws against rape for instance. And less about silencing than discouraging further harms.

[mills_and_bhuna]

It's not about that actually. It's about men who go against the official narrative being silenced.

Yip.
And dimwits who think censorship is both okay, and something a Government should partake in

[mills_and_bhuna]

Some official narratives are quite good. Laws against rape for instance. And less about silencing than discouraging further harms.

If this was really about rape I'd agree.
Just like when Assange was accused

[mills_and_bhuna]

Not sure this is the correct thread to start talking about Fascism and tyrrany.

It’s purely about Russell Brand being a fick c*nt who annoys.
IMHO

Say what you like about Russell Brand.
He may be annoying depending on personal taste.
I've felt uneasy watching him with female guests on TV before.
But I guess it was okay in those days when he wasn't questioning the narrative of the Corporate media.
And he clearly isn't 'fick'.
He comes across as intelligent if rather verbose.
Unlike some I could mention

[Marmalade]

If this was really about rape I'd agree.
Just like when Assange was accused

The evidence against Assange’s ‘rape’ charge was proved flawed, inconclusive, most likely fabricated in the most part, and probably wouldn’t have met standards of evidence in a British court. He was and is a clear inconvenience to U.S. military blunders and the evidence on that is pretty objective. Britain had little choice but release him to the U.S. under the unfair agreements even if the government had dared support him.

Brand wasn’t s threat to any government, only allegedly the women he harassed or raped. I don’t agree with the trial by media, but that’s the game he plays. Assange knew the risks: he took them out of dedication to his profession. Assange was a gift to humanity and it’s a crime that he was incarcerated. Brand on the other hand hasn’t really contributed much as far as I can see, maybe done very lowbrow comedy and abject film roles, so whether he’s guilty or not I don’t personally feel much sympathy for him.

I think you are banging on about censorship cos that’s what you like to do (and fair enough if the mods don’t stop you): but comparing Brand to Assange is a bit low even for you.

[catweazle]

Another wild eyed lookalike 'influencer'' was Rasputin. He was eventually shot but I think that Russel Brand will survive, but maybe with diminished status.
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''Rumors multiplied that Rasputin had assaulted female followers and behaved inappropriately on visits with the imperial family—and particularly with Nicholas's teenage daughters Olga and Tatyana.''

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I actually  visited the Yusupov Palace on Moika 105 in St Petersburg 5 years ago, and saw the cellar room where Prince Felix Yusopov took part  in the assassination of Rasputin.  I found it odd that Yusupov died as recently as 1967 - you tend to think of Rasputin and the Romanov murders as being ancient history.

[Marmalade]

But I guess it was okay in those days when he wasn't questioning the narrative of the Corporate media.

He doesn’t strike me as particularly bright, just an eye for explosive tabloid stories.

Alex Jones says Russell Brand is being accused of rape because he’s ‘fighting globalists’. I have kind of credited you with more discernment than Alex fucking Jones.

[Jonestown]

Seems the Attorney-General, Victoria Prentis has written to newspapers and media editors warning them about their coverage of the Brand accusations and contempt of court laws, strange state of affairs seeing as these laws don't become applicable until the courts are actually involved, ie after someone has been interviewed / arrested / charged. Is this an attempt by the state to muzzle the media ?

[Marmalade]

I actually  visited the Yusupov Palace on Moika 105 in St Petersburg 5 years ago, and saw the cellar room where Prince Felix Yusopov took part  in the assassination of Rasputin.  I found it odd that Yusupov died as recently as 1967 - you tend to think of Rasputin and the Romanov murders as being ancient history.

It must have been nice to visit St Petersburg a few years back — though personally I would like to have visited rather more beautiful places than Rasputin histories. I guess many find them fascinating though!

[Marmalade]

Seems the Attorney-General, Victoria Prentis has written to newspapers and media editors warning them about their coverage of the Brand accusations and contempt of court laws, strange state of affairs seeing as these laws don't become applicable until the courts are actually involved, ie after someone has been interviewed / arrested / charged. Is this an attempt by the state to muzzle the media ?

I think trial-by-media is becoming increasingly common. What’s more, they stick in the public mind even if a court decision goes the other way.

Most people will recall the accusations against Johnny Depp: few will recall the relevant court findings, U.K. and U.S. 

[jackdaw]

I think trial-by-media is becoming increasingly common. What’s more, they stick in the public mind even if a court decision goes the other way.

Most people will recall the accusations against Johnny Depp: few will recall the relevant court findings, U.K. and U.S.

Wasn’t it 50/50, one for him, one against him?

[Jonestown]

I think trial-by-media is becoming increasingly common. What’s more, they stick in the public mind even if a court decision goes the other way.

Most people will recall the accusations against Johnny Depp: few will recall the relevant court findings, U.K. and U.S.

Surely the damage to Depp's reputation was done by the open court accusations rather than any pre-trial media reports ?

[Private Parts]

It's not about that actually. It's about men who go against the official narrative being silenced.

I’m sure you are convinced, but what is the official narrative ?
 

[Private Parts]

Surely the damage to Depp's reputation was done by the open court accusations rather than any pre-trial media reports ?

Hey what’s the point of witnesses?

[mills_and_bhuna]

He doesn’t strike me as particularly bright, just an eye for explosive tabloid stories.

Alex Jones says Russell Brand is being accused of rape because he’s ‘fighting globalists’. I have kind of credited you with more discernment than Alex fucking Jones.

I think the establishment quite like having Alex Jones there.
He sometimes says things which are fundamentally true but his embellishment and mode of delivery makes people back away.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Russiagate, and all the attendant bullshit was a far worse hoax on the American public and had far worse consequences in hindsight than anything that Alex Jones could dream of.
And it's architects, the Clinton campaign and the DNC all walked free despite knowingly lying to the American people .
That's why I have to laugh when someone singles out Trump as an aberration because of his lying.

[Marmalade]

Wasn’t it 50/50, one for him, one against him?

Most people will remember he was accused of battering his ex-wife.
Some may remember he lost a U.K. court case.

Fewer will remember that the U.K. court case wasn’t about his ex-wife: it was a libel suit against the Sun newspaper.

Fewer still will remember that he won the U.S. court case against his ex-wife. There were substantial damages awarded against her. He offered not to claim them if she stopped making false accusations.

[mills_and_bhuna]

The evidence against Assange’s ‘rape’ charge was proved flawed, inconclusive, most likely fabricated in the most part, and probably wouldn’t have met standards of evidence in a British court. He was and is a clear inconvenience to U.S. military blunders and the evidence on that is pretty objective. Britain had little choice but release him to the U.S. under the unfair agreements even if the government had dared support him.

Brand wasn’t s threat to any government, only allegedly the women he harassed or raped. I don’t agree with the trial by media, but that’s the game he plays. Assange knew the risks: he took them out of dedication to his profession. Assange was a gift to humanity and it’s a crime that he was incarcerated. Brand on the other hand hasn’t really contributed much as far as I can see, maybe done very lowbrow comedy and abject film roles, so whether he’s guilty or not I don’t personally feel much sympathy for him.

I think you are banging on about censorship cos that’s what you like to do (and fair enough if the mods don’t stop you): but comparing Brand to Assange is a bit low even for you.

He has millions of YouTube subscribers.
He's popular on there.
And misrepresenting me as championing Brand as a surrogate Julian Assange is a bit of a stretch even by your standards. Old bean

[Marmalade]

I think the establishment quite like having Alex Jones there.
He sometimes says things which are fundamentally true but his embellishment and mode of delivery makes people back away.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Russiagate, and all the attendant bullshit was a far worse hoax on the American public and had far worse consequences in hindsight than anything that Alex Jones could dream of.
And it's architects, the Clinton campaign and the DNC all walked free despite knowingly lying to the American people .
That's why I have to laugh when someone singles out Trump as an aberration because of his lying.

Well that’s where we differ. The evidence against Clinton was factual, provable. Trump let it go instead of taking her to court. His enemies are less generous but that’s to be expected. Putting evidence alongside Alex Jones guesswork doesn’t sit well with me. You may like it — though I think he does your case a disfavour: when Jones is shown up as a conspiracy freak the public tend to throw out well-researched non-mainstream evidence that isn’t.

[Marmalade]

And can I remind you that Assange/Wikileaks, never in its history published anything later proved to be untrue: a claim possibly unique in the history of media reporting. It was you that introduced Assange to the flippant Brand thread — a ridiculous comparison to further your conspiracy bandwagon.

Maybe introduce some evidence? Otherwise you simply further trial-by-media.

[Marmalade]

In the interests of balance and on-topic, here’s one piece by Reuters that weakens some of the potential allegations against Brand (though it doesn’t counter the list from Beeb).
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[mills_and_bhuna]

Well that’s where we differ. The evidence against Clinton was factual, provable. Trump let it go instead of taking her to court. His enemies are less generous but that’s to be expected. Putting evidence alongside Alex Jones guesswork doesn’t sit well with me. You may like it — though I think he does your case a disfavour: when Jones is shown up as a conspiracy freak the public tend to throw out well-researched non-mainstream evidence that isn’t.

I agree.
I don't agree with a lot of what Alex Jones says but I suspect his mode of delivery is what puts most people off.
Antony Blinken lies a lot more than Alex Jones.
And so did Pompeo.
It's what they do.
Alex Jones probably believes a lot of what he says.
I'm not sure Blinken does.

[mills_and_bhuna]

And can I remind you that Assange/Wikileaks, never in its history published anything later proved to be untrue: a claim possibly unique in the history of media reporting. It was you that introduced Assange to the flippant Brand thread — a ridiculous comparison to further your conspiracy bandwagon.

Maybe introduce some evidence? Otherwise you simply further trial-by-media.

Would you prefer I compared Brand to the late Queen's third born?
Maybe Dinenage can write on official Commons stationery funded by the taxpayer to his big brother asking him to cut off his funding of his errant sibling for his past friendship with a convicted child trafficker?
Will it happen?
 

[Private Parts]

Would you prefer I compared Brand to the late Queen's third born?
Maybe Dinenage can write on official Commons stationery funded by the taxpayer to his big brother asking him to cut off his funding of his errant sibling for his past friendship with a convicted child trafficker?
Will it happen?
 

Is that Caroline Dineage or her dear father? HOW ✋!
This is not the place to compare senior Dukes of the Realm with schoolboys, regardless of previous indiscretions.

Not our place