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I was going to title this topic something else, which you will see in a minute. But the last time there was a topic titled it, huge drama kicked off. I am wanting to avoid drama, so am titling it "where have all the girls gone"

I was thinking, where have all the girls gone? Looking down Adultwork for 18-25. Its just a list of Brazilians and Romanians. I might have missed one or two, but I couldn't see hardly any Brits.

The agencies, I did a search of Amour of girls under 26 - not one girl. Allure - 2 girls - premium 7 girls.

Back in 2012-2015 it would be the case that each day, there would be about 30-40 girls working 18-25 guaranteed. There would be so much choice you didn't know who to see. Diamonds had girls in Heaton, Gosforth, Fenham, Quayside, Newcastle Central, Gateshead (two areas), Wallsend and Amour had girls non stop working for them too. Escorts North East had about 20 to 30 girls working each day too all on various flats on the Quayside.

New agencies would pop up and they'd each have about 6 girls on their books all 18-25. Nowdays, Newcastle is dead.

I remember speaking to many Diamond girls in 2014. And girls said to me they had to almost fight to get the flats. So many girls wanted to work each day, but they hadn't have enough flats to accommodate them all so they couldn't work that day as many didn't like doing outcalls only.

I was thinking at first, it might be due to Covid, or SeekingArrangements or Onlyfans. But then I was thinking Newcastle was seriously dying long before Covid, Seeking and Onlyfans came about.

I then started putting 2+2 together and I think I have came out with 4. But I might have come out with 25. So I started the topic.

I am thinking, the thing that has caused Newcastle to now become a punting wasteland....is it because the agencies stopped offering two girls in a flat at the same time?

My logic to this is. 18-25 year old girls probably are terrified before starting this job. Its common-sense, I would be terrified starting this job.  Who wouldn't be terrified starting this job? And i think the agencies offering two in a flat probably was the security blanket these girls needed to give them the confidence to do this job. They knew another girl was in the next room for their security and safety. So they thought to themselves, what is the worst that could happen with another girl next door.

Plus its just the thought of; "I am not alone in a flat all day, there is someone else in there with me if all else goes wrong".

I remember in 2016 onwards, the agencies all used to brag they'd have these monthly meetings with the police DLO officers working with all sex workers in the region. And all the girls would be encouraged to attend these monthly meetings too.

If these meetings are still taking place, is there anyway, any girl reading this, and if they felt confident enough. Could they ask in the next monthly Police meeting. If we did two in a flat for our own safety, will you come and raid us now in 2023. And if the police say no. Would anyone consider trying this again as it might make Newcastle become booming again?

I honest to god think the above is what has caused Newcastle to die off. And I remember i even said in the topic in 2014 here, stopping this will cause girls not want to start up the job.

Now if I am wrong, what do others think has made Newcastle become a punting wasteland? I really don't think its Onlyfans as its not easy to setup and manage, and most girls won't make hardly a penny from it.
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Anth mate you are way out of touch, to start with the the girls who were in their 20's in 2015 are 8 years older now.

Whether or not the police would take action against 2 in a flat is not something they are going to make public and if you were conversant with the NE punting scene you would know the answer. Then of course it has nothing to do with you or any other punter, as long as the girls are there willingly it isn't illegal for the punter to be there.

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Anth mate you are way out of touch, to start with the the girls who were in their 20's in 2015 are 8 years older now.

That is not the point I am making. The point i am making is, for a long time 18-25 year olds started up this job. They were all over the place.

Now in 2023 next to no 18-25 year olds want to start this job.

Something has clearly caused 18-25 year olds to not want to start this job. And I started the topic to spit ball reasons. That was mine.

Its not onlyfans. I doubt its seeking. And I highly doubt 18-25 year olds now suddenly don't want or need money anymore. There is a reason they have stopped starting this job. And I was wanting to brainstorm what that reason could be, so hopefully we could potentially fix it.
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Offline FLYING BLUE

I used to regard Newcastle as a kind of 'Aladin's cave' for punting back then Anth.

I agree, it's got much more difficult (in my experience at least) to book a punt and there does seem to be far fewer girls around these days.
Those who do 'work' appear to decide on the spur of the moment, so this can make planning & pre-booking very challeging - the situation can't be easy for the agencies either, for example, look at Premium's rota for today - that must make the admin a bloody nightmare.

It does seem that the days of full rotas, a week in advance, have gone.

I have now finally got a booking this evening, which I've just made 30 mins ago & I normally like to plan in advance, as is my nature.

Emails to AW girls get read but not replied to, text messages to indies are often the same.

I'm afraid it's not just the Northeast, I'm close to Manchester and it's a similar situation there (and in Leeds / Sheffield)

It's not all doom & gloom but maybe fair to say that the glory days are behind us :cry:

PS - I haven't a clue what's causing this as money wise, it's already a proven fact that punters will pay more & more for the same service :unknown:
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First of all welcome back Anth, I did like reading your posts in the past even if I may not have agreed with them all :hi:

The amount of girls working has been going down hill for the last few years, and I dont think it has anthing to do with only one girl in a flat, the rates have gone up so more money has not atrtacted more girls to work, I agree with FB its not just Newcastle its across the country, and not only in England I travel across europe all the time and a few years ago the sex houses would be full of girls room after room floor after floor, but now only about two floors are open in a seven story building with very few girls working and even then they are not the best

I dont think we will see the days return when looking at the escort sites was like being a kid in a sweet shop with so much choice, I remember back in the day looking at the Diamonds site on a Sunday night and the calender was full for the coming week, making planning some fun very easy

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I honestly do think that it's the prevalence of online offerings that has caused U25's to not want to do this.

Realistically, why would you want to open yourself up to sweaty older men over 50 at £100/hr and have to have a premesis, constant testing etc and potentially an agency taking a large percentage, when you can just post pics online and get less money, but literally zero hassle.

I don't blame them at all.

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I honestly do think that it's the prevalence of online offerings that has caused U25's to not want to do this.

If true, isn't that not a bit depressing when you really think about it. It is called the oldest profession after-all. Ever since the very first cavemen exited their caves. Prostitution has existed.

Its survived the Bubonic plague, the influenza pandemic of the 1920s. The Salem Witch trials where escorts were called witches and killed. Its survived the HIV scare of the 80s. Two world wars. And yet a few picture sharing sites come along in 2020 and seems to have killed it off.

So as an alternative question, is there something to keep it on life support longer. And try and encourage the hot girls to come back to this?

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yet a few picture sharing sites come along in 2020 and seems to have killed it off.
There's a 2 page thread about it here, how many threads do we need on the same subject.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=377801.0

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There's a 2 page thread about it here, how many threads do we need on the same subject.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=377801.

I think the north east has always been different as we have the agencies largely dictating the biggest portion of punting. And this topic was kind of aimed as a subtle push for the agencies to try considering the prospect of two girls in a flat again. Which is nothing to do with that other topic.

But it was also seeking ideas directed to the north east. As like many people quip, we do things differently here.
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Offline Tattooed.Gent

As other people have said, it appears to be a trend replicated in other regions and countries. There's so many other factors that could be behind it that it seems crazy to lay the blame at flat-sharing - the teenage pregnancy rate has halved in the last decade so there's not as many young women who "need" to earn that money to support people, there's also plenty of side hustle that students can now do compared to two/three years ago. And also, the working world is more diverse - a woman who wants to earn money can do it at work now without knowing she's as likely to be held back as maybe 15 or 20 years ago. Then there's Brexit, presumably making travel into the UK much more difficult compared to Poles that could have visited for a few months without any problem previously (plenty of Euro stars have graced us in the NE).

Whether this is all just a bit of a natural blip, and things pick up again at some point, is anyone's guess, but pointing the finger for a problem across the world at three or four agencies in the North East definitely isn't it.

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I think the north east has always been different as we have the agencies largely dictating the biggest portion of punting. And this topic was kind of aimed as a subtle push for the agencies to try considering the prospect of two girls in a flat again. Which is nothing to do with that other topic.

But it was also seeking ideas directed to the north east. As like many people quip, we do things differently here.
FFS Anth two girls already share flats, it happens, it's going on, the DLOs do welfare visits to the flats as well. You are out of touch with the reality of it all.

The NE is not that different to the rest of the country, well apart from in other areas agencies can list services whereas agencies here can't. Only 8 out of the 50 reviews on the first NE page are agency bookings so agency booking are very much in the minority.

There is nothing different in this thread compared to the one I linked to, they both ask the same question, is OF affecting the escort side of things.

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There is nothing different in this thread compared to the one I linked to, they both ask the same question, is OF affecting the escort side of things.

Well it's a case of I have started it now, so can we not just be allowed to have it? (please)

You never know us Geordies could be the one's to solve it all here and save the day, which wouldn't have happened in the other thread :)

But obviously, if its inappropriate to have this topic keep going, then sorry and won't post anymore in it. Its just its annoying how dead the punting scene is in Newcastle, so figured it was worth chatting with others about just for something to do

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Well it's a case of I have started it now, so can we not just be allowed to have it? (please)

You never know us Geordies could be the one's to solve it all here and save the day, which wouldn't have happened in the other thread :)

But obviously, if its inappropriate to have this topic keep going, then sorry and won't post anymore in it. Its just its annoying how dead the punting scene is in Newcastle, so figured it was worth chatting with others about just for something to do
It isn't just the NE that's affected, it's the whole country and there's nothing anybody can do to 'persuade' young women to start escorting.

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There's many threads which talk about how much money escorts make and there's posts by escorts about how that argument doesn't take into account their costs.

Maybe escorting isn't a good financial choice. I know it's survived through plagues and wars and depressions but people change.
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Offline Winker121

Good to see you contributing again Mr G.  Things could be the other way round though. Perhaps we aren't punting enough now to keep as many young ladies busy enough to make escorting as lucrative as they would like it to be! 

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The rise of sites like Onlyfans has offered these young girls a lucrative alternative.

Plus lots of young British girls price themselves ridiculously high, get no customers and disappear.

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Most are in dubai on holidays selling feet pics on Instagram
On sugaring sites

If the online safety bill goes ahead we will see a massive influx in parlour or agency or brothels pop up as advertising sex work will be alot more difficult online

Vivastreet will be closed too

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On sugaring sites

I don't think they are - or at least not in the North East anyway. I also don't think they will be getting that much money from sugaring. The idea some rich businessman will come whisking them away. When you read review sites and reviews from the girls that's not what they seem to be experiencing.

I wish there was a way to find out if these nutters who say £200 for an hours platonic meet, ever actually find someone willing to do it? Just out of morbid curiosity if someone does it.
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I don't think they are - or at least not in the North East anyway. I also don't think they will be getting that much money from sugaring. The idea some rich businessman will come whisking them away. When you read review sites and reviews from the girls that's not what they seem to be experiencing.

I wish there was a way to find out if these nutters who say £200 for an hours platonic meet, ever actually find someone willing to do it? Just out of morbid curiosity if someone does it.
Did you watch 'Untold: Onlyfans got me fired' last night?  :unknown:

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Did you watch 'Untold: Onlyfans got me fired' last night?  :unknown:

No, never heard of it. To be honest I don't watch TV anymore. Only time I watch TV is when Newcastle is on. I have found it on Usenet so am downloading it now, should be done soon (I love the fact Newcastle now has FTTP).

*Edit* I have seen the first few minutes of it now. It looks like a bunch of fantasists. Its BBW's (male and female) claiming they are making a fortune. I am sorry but I like BBW's but I know from reading about actual BBW porn stars this is not going to be true.

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No, never heard of it. To be honest I don't watch TV anymore. Only time I watch TV is when Newcastle is on. I have found it on Usenet so am downloading it now, should be done soon (I love the fact Newcastle now has FTTP).

*Edit* I have seen the first few minutes of it now. It looks like a bunch of fantasists. Its BBW's (male and female) claiming they are making a fortune. I am sorry but I like BBW's but I know from reading about actual BBW porn stars this is not going to be true.
That's your trouble Anth, you form opinions of things you don't know about and you aren't prepared to learn. You've dismissed that documentary out of hand without watching it.

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That's your trouble Anth, you form opinions of things you don't know about and you aren't prepared to learn. You've dismissed that documentary out of hand without watching it.

To be fair, i made it clear i dismissed the first few minutes of it. And it was because it was making outlandish claims that I know don't stack up to logic or reality.

BBW men/Women will not be making a fortune on Onlyfans. Put it this way if they are, then society is headed straight to hell on a handcart as this is not what should be happening. Men in general do not find obese people attractive and certainly not the amount of men pay the money they were claiming to be receiving. Its a niche fetish.

I would accept some super hot 22 year old slim red-head could be making money off there though.
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To be fair, i made it clear i dismissed the first few minutes of it. And it was because it was making outlandish claims that I know don't stack up to logic or reality.

BBW men/Women will not be making a fortune on Onlyfans. Put it this way if they are, then society is headed straight to hell on a handcart as this is not what should be happening. Men in general do not find obese people attractive and certainly not the amount of men pay the money they were claiming to be receiving. Its a niche fetish.

I would accept some super hot 22 year old slim red-head could be making money off there though.
Have you seen the 20 year old who's in the program?   :unknown:

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To be fair, i made it clear i dismissed the first few minutes of it. And it was because it was making outlandish claims that I know don't stack up to logic or reality.

BBW men/Women will not be making a fortune on Onlyfans. Put it this way if they are, then society is headed straight to hell on a handcart as this is not what should be happening. Men in general do not find obese people attractive and certainly not the amount of men pay the money they were claiming to be receiving. Its a niche fetish.

Just to mirror DM’s post, as a BBW AnthG you really don’t know what you are talking about.
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Just to mirror DM’s post, as BBW AnthG you really don’t know what you are talking about.

As a person who spend his whole 20s purveying BBW porn and it being his favourite niche, and reading interviews with BBW porn stars. I think I am allowed to express an opinion of what I read.
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As a person who spend his whole 20s purveying BBW porn and it being his favourite niche, and reading interviews with BBW porn stars. I think I am allowed to express an opinion of what I read.

But that’s not what is being said ? you said BBWs won’t be making a fortune on OnlyFans? How would know  :unknown:
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Just to mirror DM’s post, as a BBW AnthG you really don’t know what you are talking about.
There you go again having a go at members on here. If you cant contribute positively on here instead of your constant vile shite you keep spouting to punters do us a favour and piss off.

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There you go again having a go at members on here. If you cant contribute positively on here instead of your constant vile shite you keep spouting to punters do us a favour and piss off.

I think you’re the one being vile yet again, why not put me on ignore ?
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But that’s not what is being said ? you said BBWs won’t be making a fortune on OnlyFans? How would know  :unknown:

I said why in the same post, because liking BBW's is very niche. Its a fetish. And its not a mainstream fetish. Now before you get offended, I am a massive BBW lover. So I am not putting BBWs down. I love them myself.

But given its a very niche fetish they won't be making mainstream money. BBW porn stars in the the early 2000s and 2010s were not making that much money compared to regular slim/sexy porn stars. I know this from interviews with BBW porn stars and it coming from their own mouths. (porn sites in the 2000s liked to interview the girls as part of the shoot)
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I said why in the same post, because liking BBW's is very niche. Its a fetish. And its not a mainstream fetish. Now before you get offended, I am a massive BBW lover. So I am not putting BBWs down. I love them myself.

But given its a very niche fetish they won't be making mainstream money. BBW porn stars in the the early 2000s and 2010s were not making that much money compared to regular slim/sexy porn stars.

Do you know what I can’t be arsed you seem (you think)  to know everything about everything so I’ll say no more  :dash:
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Do you know what I can’t be arsed you seem (you think)  to know everything about everything so I’ll say no more  :dash:

The other guy is correct, you are very aggressive. What was wrong with what I said?
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There you go again having a go at members on here. If you cant contribute positively on here instead of your constant vile shite you keep spouting to punters do us a favour and piss off.
If you have an issue with any other members then report it or put them on ignore, we are trying to get away from the attitude you are showing.

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I think you’re the one being vile yet again, why not put me on ignore ?
Finn asked you to put him on hold not so long ago as your always having a go at him and you said ' no its too much fun' or something along those lines.
You must trawl through the whole site just so you can make vile comments as you are a nasty piece.

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If you have an issue with any other members then report it or put them on ignore, we are trying to get away from the attitude you are showing.

Yes I will take your comments on board and start reporting posts where service providers show negative attitudes towards punters as that is against the rules.

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Finn asked you to put him on hold not so long ago as your always having a go at him and you said ' no its too much fun' or something along those lines.
You must trawl through the whole site just so you can make vile comments as you are a nasty piece.

If they are as vile as you say I wouldn’t be here  :unknown:, just put me on ignore so you are not subjected to my comments.
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If they are as vile as you say I wouldn’t be here  :unknown:, just put me on ignore so you are not subjected to my comments.
You said you were not going to say anymore :dash: :dash:

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You said you were not going to say anymore :dash: :dash:

That comment was directed at AnthG obviously as my comment is attached to his, not yours, as I’ve said please just put me on ignore now  :unknown:
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Yes I will take your comments on board and start reporting posts where service providers show negative attitudes towards punters as that is against the rules.
There's also a rule about wannabe mods as well.

Far better for you and her to ignore each other and get back to the topic of this thread.

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That comment was directed at AnthG obviously as my comment is attached to his, not yours, as I’ve said please just put me on ignore now  :unknown:
Why would I do that when I am going to report your negative comments against punters so follow the rules dear lady follow the rules.

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Why would I do that when I am going to report your negative comments against punters so follow the rules dear lady follow the rules.
There are no negative comments on this thread.

So back on topic or don't post and that goes for her as well.
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There's also a rule about wannabe mods as well.

Far better for you and her to ignore each other and get back to the topic of this thread.
I am aware of that rule.

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Most are in dubai on holidays selling feet pics on Instagram
On sugaring sites

If the online safety bill goes ahead we will see a massive influx in parlour or agency or brothels pop up as advertising sex work will be alot more difficult online

Vivastreet will be closed too
A young woman was talking to me about feet pics as a way to make money. Hers not mine. Crazy times.
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BBW men/Women will not be making a fortune on Onlyfans. Put it this way if they are, then society is headed straight to hell on a handcart as this is not what should be happening.
Before long you'll be saying "I don't understand the youth of today".

society is changing that's all. Who'd have thought of OnlyFans being an option before Covid.

Offline toon972

My guess is it has to be something to do with the internet. I have noticed on one site men ask girls for their snapchat or instagram so whether you are allowed to show more or go private on there, I have no idea. These girls will be clever as well and know how to keep certain men interested. There must be other sites as well. Got to be better than going with old men. Give me a girl in the flesh any day of the week though. As you can probably guess I have no idea about the internet but just my take on it.  :D

Offline Weatherman21

I don't think they are - or at least not in the North East anyway. I also don't think they will be getting that much money from sugaring. The idea some rich businessman will come whisking them away. When you read review sites and reviews from the girls that's not what they seem to be experiencing.

I wish there was a way to find out if these nutters who say £200 for an hours platonic meet, ever actually find someone willing to do it? Just out of morbid curiosity if someone does it.


I was one of those nutters.  Only did it the once.  Never ever again!!

Offline MagpieJohn

Just to add my 2 penorth, I would tend to agree with some of what's already been said, that it's basically down to the internet. Probably a combination of social media and the vast amount of cam sites. Girls can make a fortune fucking themselves while being watched by older men rather than actually fucking the men and they can do it from the comfort & safety of their own homes.

Offline foreverchanges



I'm afraid it's not just the Northeast, I'm close to Manchester and it's a similar situation there (and in Leeds / Sheffield)

It's not all doom & gloom but maybe fair to say that the glory days are behind us :cry:

PS - I haven't a clue what's causing this as money wise, it's already a proven fact that punters will pay more & more for the same service :unknown:

Add Edinburgh to that list as well FB. The saunas were in decline even before the raids of 2013 and Covid has seen their numbers reduced to 3 (including the closure of the once glorious LSS)

Offline toon972

That day will never come back of looking at Diamonds website on a Sunday and having your pick of about 20 girls or more unfortunately.