Paranoia with punting!!

[wakizachi]

Hi gents,

First off - I’m a married man. A happily married man, except I don’t have a lot of sec at home and I’m a super horny f*cker!!! My wife is my best friend, love her to bits, but we have a poor sex life - they only thing I lack. Tried talking about it but it won’t change - let’s leave it at that..

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

I’m not using a punting phone, instead using an app called TextMe to text and make calls from an alternative number.

I normally see eastern EU girls but really want to see
British girls, but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything but need to punt to have my sexual release!? I’m forever worried about catching something (through OWO)…

Any advice? Anyone else in same boat?

[JontyR]

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything

You clearly don't.

[shed]

You clearly don't.

Well said

[pythondan]

If you are still getting some sex at home then stop getting OWO during punts. Having covered services means you should not pass anything on to er indoors.

Other than that make sure your security is top notch and, if your wife gives signs of suspicion, stop all punting related activity (including browsing here) for a month or so.

Also re. English girls most really value discretion - steer clear of psychos and you will be fine.

[sensualencounter]

Hi gents,

First off - I’m a married man. A happily married man, except I don’t have a lot of sec at home and I’m a super horny f*cker!!! My wife is my best friend, love her to bits, but we have a poor sex life - they only thing I lack. Tried talking about it but it won’t change - let’s leave it at that..

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

I’m not using a punting phone, instead using an app called TextMe to text and make calls from an alternative number.

I normally see eastern EU girls but really want to see
British girls, but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything but need to punt to have my sexual release!? I’m forever worried about catching something (through OWO)…

Any advice? Anyone else in same boat?

You don’t need to punt, that’s bollocks made up to justify doing it.

If you’re that worried about it then don’t do it. It’s not difficult.

[Stevelondon]

My advise.
DO TALK ABOUT IT.
If you love her to bits and don’t want to risk anything. Then sort it out between the two of you.

Christ mate. It’s like your wanting advise about dieting and coming on here asking all us fat fuckers how to lose weight. 

[Formicahunt]

This isn't for you. Wank more and take your wife on holiday.

[Atrueyorkie]

You clearly don't.

Let’s pin this comment 

[hunkybc]

If you are paranoid. My take is that punting is not for you.

[Dogfather]

This isn't for you. Wank more and take your wife on holiday.

Encourage a wine or two whilst on said holiday.
Alcohol and sunshine has been opening legs for centuries.

[Blackpool Rock]

Hi gents,

First off - I’m a married man. A happily married man, except I don’t have a lot of sec at home and I’m a super horny f*cker!!! My wife is my best friend, love her to bits, but we have a poor sex life - they only thing I lack. Tried talking about it but it won’t change - let’s leave it at that..

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

I’m not using a punting phone, instead using an app called TextMe to text and make calls from an alternative number.

I normally see eastern EU girls but really want to see
British girls, but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything but need to punt to have my sexual release!? I’m forever worried about catching something (through OWO)…

Any advice? Anyone else in same boat?

It's the paranoia that will get you caught 

[Southernbloke]

You punt because you want to punt and you could be married to the most beautiful and sex mad woman in the world and you would still pay for sex .
Don’t overthink it, accept what you are and enjoy the sex .

[jamiekinkxxx]

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

- Were you punting before you met your wife?
- I agree with others, if you do REALLY value your marriage then own this and try and resolve the issue(s) you have in your marriage, if you can't then perhaps (as hard as this may sound) you are not truly the right people for each other

[mikef2008]

I do get where you're coming from OP. I'm older than you (50) and the OH's sex drive has just evaporated which, together with my general horniness, has led me into the world of punting. And I used to have similar crazy thoughts about avoiding British escorts but now, like another poster said, I realise that they also really value discretion and privacy. My one big tip is to avoid OWO - you don't want the extra guilt of passing something nasty on to the missus!!

[Puntingutils]

I was first going to say the people on this thread are using a false dichotomy, and that you can actually value your marriage and cheat on her. But you then said you value it(marriage) above everything else. I'm not in a similar boat, and I don't condone cheating in a monogamous relationship. I suggest you have a hard think and determine if you are willing to compromise your marriage for moments of lust. Is it really worth it? I've seen this beforehand and it's not pretty, especially if you have kids involved. If you still are willing to potentially ruin your marriage by thinking with your dick, least you can do is OWO to reduce risk and regularly take tests for your sake and for your wives.

but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

Only unless the SP wants to ruin your marriage, but that can be regardless of their nationality. Just don't tell them you're cheating on your wife. They don't care, and don't care enough to track your wife down to expose you.

[pantywetter]

Some posters seem a bit harsh on OP.

I’m sure a lot of us are in otherwise happy relationships with not enough of the sex we want.

It is an extremely high bar to put your desires on the back burner for decades.

Maybe it’s selfish to punt but I can understand why people do it.  I would have thought more people here would understand that.

To the OP, it’s fairly easy to keep your tracks covered if you are careful with electronic trail and paper trail.  I have hidden it from partners for approaching 25 years.  There will always be an element of risk though which you cannot control.

[holeymoley]

Some posters seem a bit harsh on OP.

I’m sure a lot of us are in otherwise happy relationships with not enough of the sex we want.

It is an extremely high bar to put your desires on the back burner for decades.

Maybe it’s selfish to punt but I can understand why people do it.  I would have thought more people here would understand that.

To the OP, it’s fairly easy to keep your tracks covered if you are careful with electronic trail and paper trail.  I have hidden it from partners for approaching 25 years.  There will always be an element of risk though which you cannot control.

Top comment !   ( imho of course )

[JontyR]

Some posters seem a bit harsh on OP.

I’m sure a lot of us are in otherwise happy relationships with not enough of the sex we want.

It is an extremely high bar to put your desires on the back burner for decades.

Maybe it’s selfish to punt but I can understand why people do it.  I would have thought more people here would understand that.

To the OP, it’s fairly easy to keep your tracks covered if you are careful with electronic trail and paper trail.  I have hidden it from partners for approaching 25 years.  There will always be an element of risk though which you cannot control.

No one is lambasting him for seeing SPs.

The lambasting you get is when you say "[ I ] value my marriage above everything"

If he'd said "I value my marriage above everything apart from shagging other women and paying for the privilege" then he'd not get the pelters. 

[mj]

Some posters seem a bit harsh on OP.

I’m sure a lot of us are in otherwise happy relationships with not enough of the sex we want.

It is an extremely high bar to put your desires on the back burner for decades.

Maybe it’s selfish to punt but I can understand why people do it.  I would have thought more people here would understand that.

To the OP, it’s fairly easy to keep your tracks covered if you are careful with electronic trail and paper trail.  I have hidden it from partners for approaching 25 years.  There will always be an element of risk though which you cannot control.

Spot on.. We all have our reasons for doing this.

My advice is to just be careful. Stick to the more professional SPs, and always be polite, respectful, but forgettable to them - don't piss anyone off.  And don't punt in your own neighborhood.

It won't stop you feeling guilty because you do value your marriage. But I don't think the risk is any higher with British girls, in fact probably lower - less likely to be trafficked.   

[pantywetter]

Spot on.. We all have our reasons for doing this.

My advice is to just be careful. Stick to the more professional SPs, and always be polite, respectful, but forgettable to them - don't piss anyone off.  And don't punt in your own neighborhood.

It won't stop you feeling guilty because you do value your marriage. But I don't think the risk is any higher with British girls, in fact probably lower - less likely to be trafficked.

I think this is good advice to keep your head down.  I’ve walked away from rip offs before because a big altercation could have big repercussions on the personal life.  Never share too much personal information too.

[Jonestown]

My advice is to just be careful …………And don't punt in your own neighborhood.

They say that the bullet that gets you, you don’t even here it coming, likewise no matter how careful and diligent you are over covering your tracks something will come in out of the blue and be your undoing, being seen in a strange part of town with no valid reason for being there is a good one.

[mj]

no matter how careful and diligent you are over covering your tracks something will come in out of the blue and be your undoing

That's the risk we all take.

[DDMC30]

Some posters seem a bit harsh on OP.

I’m sure a lot of us are in otherwise happy relationships with not enough of the sex we want.

It is an extremely high bar to put your desires on the back burner for decades.

Maybe it’s selfish to punt but I can understand why people do it.  I would have thought more people here would understand that.

To the OP, it’s fairly easy to keep your tracks covered if you are careful with electronic trail and paper trail.  I have hidden it from partners for approaching 25 years.  There will always be an element of risk though which you cannot control.

I concur, wasn't expecting so much negativity. I have punted while in relationships in the past. Not ideal for peace of mind, but seemed like a necessity. Also our partners could be getting up to mischief that we are unaware of, or maybe dgaf about 

[The Outsider]

Hi gents,

First off - I’m a married man. A happily married man, except I don’t have a lot of sec at home and I’m a super horny f*cker!!! My wife is my best friend, love her to bits, but we have a poor sex life - they only thing I lack. Tried talking about it but it won’t change - let’s leave it at that..

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

I’m not using a punting phone, instead using an app called TextMe to text and make calls from an alternative number.

I normally see eastern EU girls but really want to see
British girls, but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything but need to punt to have my sexual release!? I’m forever worried about catching something (through OWO)…

Any advice? Anyone else in same boat?

Get a punting phone.

Use a condom for oral.

Be honest about what you value and why.   

[sensualencounter]

I concur, wasn't expecting so much negativity. I have punted while in relationships in the past. Not ideal for peace of mind, but seemed like a necessity. Also our partners could be getting up to mischief that we are unaware of, or maybe dgaf about 

What a load of bollocks. Sex isn’t a necessity apart from the very very few clinically diagnosed addicts and like any addict if you asked them they’d say it’s not fun. And as for your partners could be shagging someone so you’re getting in first, that’s a ridiculous thought.

The only sense you’ve said is if your partner doesn’t give a fuck but that’s a very rare situation and something that needs mutual acceptance and consent.

As someone has previously said, the “negativity” isn’t from the moral police in terms of cheating on your partner (although it is, despite numerous idiotic excuses used to try and pretend otherwise) but it’s his statement of valuing his marriage above all else.

[jamiekinkxxx]

What a load of bollocks. Sex isn’t a necessity apart from the very very few clinically diagnosed addicts and like any addict if you asked them they’d say it’s not fun. And as for your partners could be shagging someone so you’re getting in first, that’s a ridiculous thought.

The only sense you’ve said is if your partner doesn’t give a fuck but that’s a very rare situation and something that needs mutual acceptance and consent.

As someone has previously said, the “negativity” isn’t from the moral police in terms of cheating on your partner (although it is, despite numerous idiotic excuses used to try and pretend otherwise) but it’s his statement of valuing his marriage above all else.

+1

[Dajie]

If you want to minimise the risk of exposure, here are my thoughts after 16 years of punting.

Don't do it in your own backyard. Punt in areas where you and your other half don't know anybody. Cities are the best. Nobody will look at you twice.

Hotels and apartments. Not in the street or your car.

Minimise the lies. Find a reason to go to the area in question. So you are only lying about what you are doing there. Straight after work can be a safe bet if you can get out an hour or two early.

Isolate your punting life and your real life. Leaving work early is a neat trick, but only if your wife doesn't know your co-workers. Don't invite her to work drinks. Or better, don't invite her, make your excuses and punt!

Punt with well reviewed WGs. Preferably British. With a cheap Rom etc you run the risk of being caught up in trafficking etc.

Use a burner phone. Buy it cash and top up with cash. Secure it, fingerprint etc. Put it on do not disturb when not in use.

Accept you are vulnerable. If you get ripped off, walk away.

Safe sex. An STD is going to make your life difficult. But also beware diamante studded high heels, etc. You don't want scrape marks on your shoulders etc.

Don't tell anybody. Some of your friends tell their wives everything.

For me, minimizing the lies is key. If I am going to (say) Earls Court to punt then it is because I am going to Westfield. I will actually go to Westfield and buy something too. Then I am coming home with a Westfield bag and a Westfield receipt and the only thing missing is a couple of hours when I "had some lunch".

Has worked for me.

[puntingking]

Hi gents,

First off - I’m a married man. A happily married man, except I don’t have a lot of sec at home and I’m a super horny f*cker!!! My wife is my best friend, love her to bits, but we have a poor sex life - they only thing I lack. Tried talking about it but it won’t change - let’s leave it at that..

Now the thing is, I’ve been punting (irregularly) over the years. I feel like the stakes are getting higher - my paranoia is getting worse!!!

I’m not using a punting phone, instead using an app called TextMe to text and make calls from an alternative number.

I normally see eastern EU girls but really want to see
British girls, but have this fear that somehow it’s more likely to get back to my wife through an English SP over an EE one!!?! What do you guys thinks?

I’m fairly young (37), and value my marriage above everything but need to punt to have my sexual release!? I’m forever worried about catching something (through OWO)…

Any advice? Anyone else in same boat?

either get a divorce & enjoy punting free from your paranoia. Or quit punting & enjoy your marriage free from your paranoia. 

[Thephoenix]

Numerous similar posts in the past.

Many punters have OHs and value their relationship, even though for a variety of reasons one of the partners has lost interest in sex (or cannot partake.)
If someone comes on here saying they've tried talking etc to no avail, but still value their relationship and everything that entails, why do some others obviously not in relationships decide to pile on with such judgemental posts.

My guess is a high proportion of punters have OHs and value their relationship, but are reluctant to post because of these reactions which are not helpful whatsoever.

If you're not in a relationship because of choice, too fat or ugly, divorce or bad experiences etc, maybe it would be better to leave those constructive suggestions from those facing similar dilemmas, and not be so judgemental of a situation you may no little about.

......lights the touchpaper and retreats to a safe distance!

[Thephoenix]

My advise.
DO TALK ABOUT IT.
If you love her to bits and don’t want to risk anything. Then sort it out between the two of you.

Christ mate. It’s like your wanting advise about dieting and coming on here asking all us fat fuckers how to lose weight. 

He said he has!

[Thephoenix]

either get a divorce & enjoy punting free from your paranoia. Or quit punting & enjoy your marriage free from your paranoia. 

...Or stay married and overcome your paranoia.

[faquin1]

If it's any consolation you (the OP) are not alone in having this negative inner voice. You are likely overall a good and conscientious person. It's just this one activity goes against social norms and your moral compass. In turn feeding the inner voice, the paranoia.

It's unlikely things shall change in the relationship with your wife and unlikely you shall stop punting.

Accept it and learn to change your own perception so that the intrusive thoughts are less negative.

I too am on a similar path.

Off topic. If anyone is wondering why I've only left one review it's because I'm not currently punting. Instead I have a side chick.

 

[puntingking]

My advise.
DO TALK ABOUT IT.
If you love her to bits and don’t want to risk anything. Then sort it out between the two of you.

Christ mate. It’s like your wanting advise about dieting and coming on here asking all us fat fuckers how to lose weight. 

This is why I love ukp. Members sense of humour on here is great 

[JontyR]

Numerous similar posts in the past.

Many punters have OHs and value their relationship, even though for a variety of reasons one of the partners has lost interest in sex (or cannot partake.)
If someone comes on here saying they've tried talking etc to no avail, but still value their relationship and everything that entails, why do some others obviously not in relationships decide to pile on with such judgemental posts.

My guess is a high proportion of punters have OHs and value their relationship, but are reluctant to post because of these reactions which are not helpful whatsoever.

If you're not in a relationship because of choice, too fat or ugly, divorce or bad experiences etc, maybe it would be better to leave those constructive suggestions from those facing similar dilemmas, and not be so judgemental of a situation you may no little about.

......lights the touchpaper and retreats to a safe distance!

I normally universally respect your opinion but I think you've misread here.

I've punted in marriages, engagements and relationships. I've been faithful in all those situations too. And I've had civvy affairs in every circumstance too.

I've never been caught, touch wood, but if I had been then it would be no one's fault than my own. And I don't think that there would have been a single situation where my infidelity would not have led to an acrimonious parting of the ways. And that would be even if it weren't
a situation where the sex was paid for or passed on an STI.  Now in most of those cases I wouldn't have cared, or not cared that much.

But if I had fucked up the relationship with the genuine love of my life because I couldn't say no then I'd be gutted.

If I consistently strayed even when I knew the risks- and I deemed that risk to be the riskiest risk in my life and nowhere near worth the risk - but I still did it...? Well that to me suggests that I have some kind of personality disorder.

I've got every sympathy for the situation that the OP finds himself in. I can appreciate that he can't be totally honest with his wife. But I think he needs to be honest with himself.

As for other posters and their own stories, well if you don't like the potential answer don't ask the question. I don't think anyone has been especially unkind.

[sensualencounter]

I normally universally respect your opinion but I think you've misread here.

I've punted in marriages, engagements and relationships. I've been faithful in all those situations too. And I've had civvy affairs in every circumstance too.

I've never been caught, touch wood, but if I had been then it would be no one's fault than my own. And I don't think that there would have been a single situation where my infidelity would not have led to an acrimonious parting of the ways. And that would be even if it weren't
a situation where the sex was paid for or passed on an STI.  Now in most of those cases I wouldn't have cared, or not cared that much.

But if I had fucked up the relationship with the genuine love of my life because I couldn't say no then I'd be gutted.

If I consistently strayed even when I knew the risks- and I deemed that risk to be the riskiest risk in my life and nowhere near worth the risk - but I still did it...? Well that to me suggests that I have some kind of personality disorder.

I've got every sympathy for the situation that the OP finds himself in. I can appreciate that he can't be totally honest with his wife. But I think he needs to be honest with himself.

As for other posters and their own stories, well if you don't like the potential answer don't ask the question. I don't think anyone has been especially unkind.

Very well said 

Maybe my abruptness comes across as rude but I cannot abide by all these delusional excuses. The buck stops with you as a punter. No one forces you into it.

[tynetunnel]

If it's any consolation you (the OP) are not alone in having this negative inner voice. You are likely overall a good and conscientious person. It's just this one activity goes against social norms and your moral compass. In turn feeding the inner voice, the paranoia.

It's unlikely things shall change in the relationship with your wife and unlikely you shall stop punting.

Accept it and learn to change your own perception so that the intrusive thoughts are less negative.

I too am on a similar path.

Off topic. If anyone is wondering why I've only left one review it's because I'm not currently punting. Instead I have a side chick.

Nicely put.

OP, if the real thing you are worried about is catching something from OWO, then alleviate all your worries in one fell swoop, and only indulge in OW from now on

I think for most guys, the reality is that given half a chance, we would grab any opportunity that comes our way, at least within reason. Many decades ago when I got married, we were abroad on our honeymoon. The new wife was tired one night, and being a young lad on holiday, I fancied going to the small town club that was in the resort. So I did. Anyway got chatting with a mixed group and one of the girls was clearly wanting to hook up with me.

Of course I advised her that although very flattered, I was a newlywed on honeymoon and my new wife was having an early night. I know it would have been a very foolish and stupid thing to have done anything else, but I’d be a liar if I said I wasn’t tempted.

[Thephoenix]

Nicely put.

OP, if the real thing you are worried about is catching something from OWO, then alleviate all your worries in one fell swoop, and only indulge in OW from now on

I think for most guys, the reality is that given half a chance, we would grab any opportunity that comes our way, at least within reason. Many decades ago when I got married, we were abroad on our honeymoon. The new wife was tired one night, and being a young lad on holiday, I fancied going to the small town club that was in the resort. So I did. Anyway got chatting with a mixed group and one of the girls was clearly wanting to hook up with me.

Of course I advised her that although very flattered, I was a newlywed on honeymoon and my new wife was having an early night. I know it would have been a very foolish and stupid thing to have done anything else, but I’d be a liar if I said I wasn’t tempted.

.....Not even a quick blow job???

[Thephoenix]

Isn't the OPs situation a example of why prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession?

- A caring relationship starts and sex is good.
- The female loses interest in sex for a variety of reasons.
- The male retains his libido...some men more than others if they're highly sexed, and becomes sexually frustrated and resentful.
- Discussions or counseling fails to improve the situation.
- The man still values the relationship with all the advantages that entails whether it be affection, family, companionship, security etc.

So there's the dilimma that we see so often referred to on these pages.

What does he do?

- Accept the situation and stay celibate with whatever frustration and resentment that may cause?
- Accept the situation and masturbate which may only partly ease the frustration for a while?
- Have an affair or series of affairs with the difficult emotional and practical problems that can involve?
- Pay for sex outside the relationship and live with the associated  guilt, risks, and in OP's case paranoia, some may feel, together with the censorious attitudes of others, even fellow punters?
- Leave the relationship with all the hurt and repercussions, and embark on a journey into the unknown?

Fuck knows!

Everyone's circumstances are different!

[Jonestown]

I have to say, that having had recent years a couple of extended periods where I was unable to punt, my levels of personal stress decreased enormously, what with not having to constantly be looking over my shoulder and generally covering my tracks, not coming home in an apprehensive state of mind, not being unconsciously defensive, not being wary of looking loved ones in the face. One might almost say guilt free living is rather good.

[pythondan]

I have to say, that having had recent years a couple of extended periods where I was unable to punt, my levels of personal stress decreased enormously, what with not having to constantly be looking over my shoulder and generally covering my tracks, not coming home in an apprehensive state of mind, not being unconsciously defensive, not being wary of looking loved ones in the face. One might almost say guilt free living is rather good.

During this period of non-punting did you stay off related web sites such as this one, AW etc?

I think more guys probably get caught due to poor Internet and comms security than catching STI's or being seen entering/leaving known sex worker locations.

[JontyR]

Isn't the OPs situation a example of why prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession?

- A caring relationship starts and sex is good.
- The female loses interest in sex for a variety of reasons.
- The male retains his libido...some men more than others if they're highly sexed, and becomes sexually frustrated and resentful.
- Discussions or counseling fails to improve the situation.
- The man still values the relationship with all the advantages that entails whether it be affection, family, companionship, security etc.

So there's the dilimma that we see so often referred to on these pages.

What does he do?

- Accept the situation and stay celibate with whatever frustration and resentment that may cause?
- Accept the situation and masturbate which may only partly ease the frustration for a while?
- Have an affair or series of affairs with the difficult emotional and practical problems that can involve?
- Pay for sex outside the relationship and live with the associated  guilt, risks, and in OP's case paranoia, some may feel, together with the censorious attitudes of others, even fellow punters?
- Leave the relationship with all the hurt and repercussions, and embark on a journey into the unknown?

Fuck knows!

Everyone's circumstances are different!

Indeed everyone's situation is different. But looking at this case....
The OP didn't say that all sex had stopped. Just that he wasn't getting as much as he wanted.
If he wants to fuck around then fair enough, none of my business. Not judging him.
But if he wants above all else to stay married to his wife I'd suggest that possibly giving a dose after paying to stick his cock into someones mouth isn't the best way of ensuring his desired outcome.
Now it could be that in a few years and the hormonal situation is reversed and the wife wants more than husband. What then? What is his attitude going to be regarding her getting it elsewhere.
Most of my most pleasant and sexually fulfilling assignations have been with married women, I imagine most of their husbands would have been bemoaning her fundamental frigidity whilst she was moaning for me to put it up her fundament.

[JontyR]

During this period of non-punting did you stay off related web sites such as this one, AW etc?

I think more guys probably get caught due to poor Internet and comms security than catching STI's or being seen entering/leaving known sex worker locations.

Damn good point this. Or that coming across the web history leads to suspicions being aroused where there wasn't any before.

[Jonestown]

During this period of non-punting did you stay off related web sites such as this one, AW etc?

Yes, to a very great extent, although I dipped my toe in occasionally. My online profile is limited to UKP pretty much, and has been a long time.

[akauya]

Most of my most pleasant and sexually fulfilling assignations have been with married women, I imagine most of their husbands would have been bemoaning her fundamental frigidity whilst she was moaning for me to put it up her fundament.

I agree with this. I used to be member of a website/forum for married people looking for affairs. Most of the hook-ups I got from there were with highly sexed women who just didn't fancy their husbands anymore. I've always been conscious of that fact specially when it comes to Mrs A, who doesn't fancy sex with me anymore. She's probably getting it from some other bloke somewhere (or girl as she had a lesbian fling when she was younger).

As we used to say in that forum, your wife hasn't gone off sex, she's gone off you. 

[Maak]

We aĺl punt for different reasons, I got a girlfriend but long distance relationship, once a while I need a shaggy when I can't see her. I just call up my retired regular.

[sensualencounter]

We aĺl punt for different reasons, I got a girlfriend but long distance relationship, once a while I need a shaggy when I can't see her. I just call up my retired regular.

Just make sure she doesn’t come in and caught you red handed creeping with the girl next door.

[PaulRuff]

Simple answer - it wasn't me.

[pantywetter]

They say that the bullet that gets you, you don’t even here it coming, likewise no matter how careful and diligent you are over covering your tracks something will come in out of the blue and be your undoing, being seen in a strange part of town with no valid reason for being there is a good one.

This is my worry.  I’ve covered my tracks for approaching two decades, but there is that black swan situation where you get caught out and it all comes tumbling down. 

[pantywetter]

I am still really surprised by the reactions above.  I have had a number of long term GFs who I love and value, but I need a lot more and varied sex than they can offer.  I thought 8 out of 10 blokes would understand that, let alone the subset of us who punt!

Not asking to go over it again, but I am genuinely surprised there is not more agreement here. 

[Jonestown]

I am still really surprised by the reactions above.  I have had a number of long term GFs who I love and value, but I need a lot more and varied sex than they can offer.  I thought 8 out of 10 blokes would understand that, let alone the subset of us who punt!

Not asking to go over it again, but I am genuinely surprised there is not more agreement here.

UKP posters just love a good pile on - in this case reply #1 was the starting gun.