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Author Topic: Should punters be haggling over pro$$ie rates more often?  (Read 8252 times)

Offline Bangers and Gash

After carrying out extensive research regarding the comments posted on safe I have deduced that most pro$$ies spend endless days praying for the dusty phone to ring and slobbing-out on the sofa whilst watching their relatives get DNA tested by Jeremy Kyle. So wouldn't it be wise for us punters to haggle prices, making it the normal done thing to do?

Surely 50% of something is much better than 100% of nothing.

 :unknown:

essexmat

  • Guest
It has been known, not by me directly asking but by a regular I used to see where I lived many years ago. Charged 60 for the 30 mins but if it was a slow day I am sure she used to text a few regulars once it got to around 7pm as she used to finish at 10pm. Used to get texts from her saying "I am around if you want to come and see me - 40 for the 30 mins" This is why, if with someone (partner or married) you should have a punting phone. Saying that I rarely got the texts as I had to conceal the phone somewhere where it would not be found so only ever got the messages when I couldn't act on them.

Offline Jeff_withpetersen

No pro$$ie should ever be randomly texting phones touting for business unless they've been given the green light to do so by the punter in question.

 In answer to the original question - like any business, strugglers/ones trying to build their rep and business might accept a haggle, the more successful/busy ones won't. I personally wouldn't ever haggle with someone I hadn't seen before, I think it'd sour the atmosphere of the punt before I'd even arrived.

essexmat

  • Guest
No pro$$ie should ever be randomly texting phones touting for business unless they've been given the green light to do so by the punter in question.

Oh I agree, but I am sure loads do - try explaining a text from a pro$$ie to the other half if that does happen  :wackogirl:

Offline Jeff_withpetersen

If you have a punting phone that is turned off apart from when necessary, an explanation should never be required. Similarly if someone texts you using your false punting name, it can be easily explained as a wrong number/spam/joke text. I think that'd wash with all but the most suspicious of birds.

Sienna_Bronze

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No. I feel that haggling for a service is rude and wouldn't be tolerated in any other service based business. If anyone tries to haggle with me I just block them. Fortunately I haven't had to do that too often.

Offline Jeff_withpetersen

No. I feel that haggling for a service is rude and wouldn't be tolerated in any other service based business.

 It's tolerated in almost all business.

Offline smiths

After carrying out extensive research regarding the comments posted on safe I have deduced that most pro$$ies spend endless days praying for the dusty phone to ring and slobbing-out on the sofa whilst watching their relatives get DNA tested by Jeremy Kyle. So wouldn't it be wise for us punters to haggle prices, making it the normal done thing to do?

Surely 50% of something is much better than 100% of nothing.

 :unknown:

How many punters would actually haggle though i wonder out of all those that WGs punt with. Even if every punter on here said they would haggle, apart from it not being provable they did, what about those punters that arent members on here. IMO there are lots of mug punters about, fluffies and rich punters who wouldnt bother haggling.

When i punt unless the WG has lied i selected her for various reasons one being because she charged a rate i already knew i was prepared to pay, so i dont haggle on an hour or twos punt but have on longer 121 punts over the years.

So in theory it would be great if all punters haggled and that were the norm as it could save at least some of us some money, but realistically its not going to happen that all punters will haggle. Being too polite is another problem with this here in my view, haggling isnt something many people do generally unlike in some cultures where its the norm. I just wish idiot punters wouldnt advise WGs to raise their prices as they do other punters no favours.

Obviously if a punter wishes to haggle good luck to him.

Offline Jimmyredcab

No. I feel that haggling for a service is rude and wouldn't be tolerated in any other service based business. If anyone tries to haggle with me I just block them. Fortunately I haven't had to do that too often.

You need to get your head out of your arse ---- no offense meant.   :rolleyes:

Offline Jimmyredcab

It's tolerated in almost all business.

Indeed it is, including my cab.

If things are quiet I will let people negotiate ----- as long as they don't take the piss.

Why do prostitutes think they are so special.   :dash:

Offline PatrickCarnes

No. I feel that haggling for a service is rude and wouldn't be tolerated in any other service based business. If anyone tries to haggle with me I just block them. Fortunately I haven't had to do that too often.

How can haggling for a service be rude? Unless it's stated explicitly on a prostitutes website that she doesn't tolerate haggling, it's fair game for the person making the request, as far as I'm concerned. All it requires is a simple no if you don't like it.

I've put in requests for professional people to pay a lower price and sometimes they've agreed. They didn't see it as rude. And if they did all they have to do is say no.

Elisha Joanne

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In any town centre on a friday night there are plenty of birds that will do it for free..

Prices vary depending on the price of the venue, time of year, if they are a regular etc. There are girls to suit every budget and services also

Offline Jimmyredcab

How can haggling for a service be rude?

It's not rude.
Look how many pro$$ies respond to reverse bookings because they have overpriced their services, they seem to forget it takes 5 minutes to become a prostitute ----- not five years at University.  :rolleyes:

Elisha Joanne

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what sort of price would be reasonable for example for an hour in a classy hotel? would you expect to pay more for an upmarket venue than an bedsit or would venue not make a difference?

Offline Jimmyredcab

what sort of price would be reasonable for example for an hour in a classy hotel? would you expect to pay more for an upmarket venue than an bedsit or would venue not make a difference?

I am not interested in the venue, as long as it is not a filthy hovel, why do I need a classy hotel to shag a hooker.   :unknown:

Sienna_Bronze

  • Guest
I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?

Elisha Joanne

  • Guest
so presuming a girl has a regular place to work from negating the need to get a hotel how much is reasonable to ask for an hour with all services available within that hour?

jcdmj12

  • Guest
I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?

Smart window cleaners offer a discount on repeat bookings, and also give a better price to people who have a lot of windows to clean.

Offline PatrickCarnes

I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?

Just because you've never asked doesn't mean it can't be done. It's only a simple request. The answer is usually a yes or no.

Offline Bangers and Gash

so presuming a girl has a regular place to work from negating the need to get a hotel how much is reasonable to ask for an hour with all services available within that hour?

£15

Offline Jimmyredcab

I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?

DOES YOUR WINDOW CLEANER CHARGE £120-£150 AN HOUR. ???

No, I didn't think so.  :rolleyes:

RandyF

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I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?

Literally everyone regardless of profession/occupation is open to negotiation, under the right circumstances.  Undertaker, lawyer, window cleaner, toilet cleaner.  All of them.

Whore's love to perpetuate this myth, that they are somehow above haggling. It's probably just lazy tarts, copying and pasting each others profiles rather than some mass conspiracy.

Sienna_Bronze

  • Guest
I've never been rude saying no and do state that I'm not open to offers, I've just not seen it in 'real life'. Most prices are set and I wouldn't even begin to ask. Oh and my window cleaner has not changed his rated in over 3yrs, maybe I should be asking for a discount  ;)

Elisha Joanne

  • Guest
i would,nt have the heart to do that to my window cleaner, if i had one that is. Im too soft by far and probably give him a good tip too ...

petitealice

  • Guest
Depends on how the haggling is done. If the punter is polite e.g. "Would really like an hour with you, would you consider seeing me for x amount?" then I see no issue. As long as it isn't taking the piss, like 10 quid for an hour instead of my usual rate.

A regular of mine said he had a problem with a cheque going through but could borrow sixty of a mate, and I said yes.

If you are on a budget then ask. If you don't ask you don't get. You just need to be as polite as possible, maybe a few emails first and then ask about prices.

Offline Bangers and Gash

Why are the pro$$ies on here trying to derail a serious topic by chatting girly bollocks about hotels, window cleaners and fucking acrylic nails?  :wackogirl:

 :dash:

Offline Jimmyredcab

I've never been rude saying no and do state that I'm not open to offers.

Just wasted 5 minutes of my life finding your profile, you are not really my type and you are not in my area but your rates seem quite sensible ------------ but then Telford is not exactly Mayfair.    :hi:

petitealice

  • Guest
Why are the pro$$ies on here trying to derail a serious topic by chatting girly bollocks about hotels, window cleaners and fucking acrylic nails?  :wackogirl:

 :dash:

It Think acrylic nails would look very fetching on you!   :D

In all seriousness though, acrylic nails are the devils spawn. If you want the use of your hands, don't get them. I like to be able to give a guy a wank without worrying I will rip my nail beds out. Or shred his cock to bits.

Elisha Joanne

  • Guest
aw dunno about that. How would he get his £15 out of his pocket?

a10

  • Guest
what sort of price would be reasonable for example for an hour in a classy hotel? would you expect to pay more for an upmarket venue than an bedsit or would venue not make a difference?

That argument is only really valid if the pro$$ie was booking the "classy" hotel (can't really extend to Travelodge/Premier Inn that most work out of) for the punter and that punter only. Usually the cost is split across several bookings, so that component is lower.

Why are the pro$$ies on here trying to derail a serious topic by chatting girly bollocks about hotels, window cleaners and fucking acrylic nails?  :wackogirl:

 :dash:

Isn't it obvious? They don't want this thread to reach it's logical conclusion  :dash:

Another reason to not let them join. Or at least mod their posts on the threads  :wackogirl:

Offline Jimmyredcab

That argument is only really valid if the pro$$ie was booking the "classy" hotel (can't really extend to Travelodge/Premier Inn that most work out of) for the punter and that punter only. Usually the cost is split across several bookings, so that component is lower.

Isn't it obvious? They don't want this thread to reach it's logical conclusion  :dash:

Another reason to not let them join. Or at least mod their posts on the threads  :wackogirl:

Most of them have their run and sooner or later it ends in tears.    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sienna_Bronze

  • Guest
I'm not trying to derail a post. I was just comparing to my old job.

Offline Jimmyredcab

aw dunno about that. How would he get his £15 out of his pocket?

Any chance of going back to being a lurker.      :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

Elisha Joanne

  • Guest
That argument is only really valid if the pro$$ie was booking the "classy" hotel (can't really extend to Travelodge/Premier Inn that most work out of) for the punter and that punter only. Usually the cost is split across several bookings, so that component is lower.

Ok Im following you - it was a question so I,ll ask in a another way. Should we take the cost of a venue into account when setting prices? If working from a flat should the cost of a clean set of sheet/towels/hot water etc be included in the price or offered as an extra?

One client left so many skid marks in my bed I had to bin the lot - gutted as it was £160 egyptian cotton  :angry:

Closet freak

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. So wouldn't it be wise for us punters to haggle prices, making it the normal done thing to do?

Surely 50% of something is much better than 100% of nothing.

 :unknown:

Why don't you kick it off  with , let's say you place a RB for a 2 hour incall for 50% of the WGs rate & see what results you find , you never know you might start a trend  :hi:

Online Northerndave666

Before booking, or while arranging, I always text or message and ask if there are any special offers on today? Answers have ranged from, not being answered, to 'my prices are set' all the way to a discount off a booking. I always try to ensure that I ask in a polite way and would say it works 20% of the time.

Do I feel bad for asking? Absolutely not. It takes Lawyers and other Professionals years of study and years of ladder climbing to make £80 for a 30 min appointment (tax free). I know how long it takes me to make £80 after tax, yet some 20 y/o thinks that is an acceptable rate for noshing on a cock and opening her legs....when she does it for free most nights for the dodgiest chav on the council estate.  (Just a generalisation, I know there are escorts from all stratas of society, but you get my drift)

Offline house music dave

If i think a girl is not setting her prices around local and regional rates and have a suspicion that she may not be all that experienced at semi specialised services e.g. prostate massage, dirty talk, deep throat. Then i'll ask if she can do it for x amount. The problem that we have is that we can never tell if a WG is busy or quiet, until she puts a new rate up or a special offer. What I think are high prices other guys might term reasonable, therefore I have a limited amount of ammunition to use should I wish to get  a good deal.

The profile below is a perfect example. She thinks she has got her rates set perfectly and she does offer some very specialised services that i wouldn't partake of.  I'd  say they were £20 to £40 to high on the PSE services she offers 


   External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

JV547845

  • Guest
That includes anal though.  £60 really is a lot extra if you just want OWO.

Offline Daffodil

No. I feel that haggling for a service is rude and wouldn't be tolerated in any other service based business. If anyone tries to haggle with me I just block them. Fortunately I haven't had to do that too often.

Such bullshit  :hi:

This "business" is private seller to private buyer, so think Exhange and Mart. Haggling is ubiquitous. In addition I went into a camera shop on the high street the other week to buy a midrange camera and negotiated the price down, plus some extra kit.

In terms of the "trades" I would also negotiate with a plumber, a builder, a mechanic, and countless others.

Do you think a plasterer would throw his toys out if the pram if I dared to negotiate and block all future contact? Why do you think you're so special?  :dash:

Offline house music dave

That includes anal though.  £60 really is a lot extra if you just want OWO.

Fair point on the anal.still even with anal, her looks and new mum mentality.  it's £150 territory for me   


JV547845

  • Guest
Yeah I was thinking of seeing her at £120.  After her trip to brum you'd think she's sorted something so she's not going to have to leave mid punt to see to the bambinos, which was a random concern.

Offline Daffodil

Why are the pro$$ies on here trying to derail a serious topic by chatting girly bollocks about hotels, window cleaners and fucking acrylic nails?  :wackogirl:

 :dash:

Hmmm yes, I wonder why  :rolleyes:

Offline house music dave

Yeah I was thinking of seeing her at £120.  After her trip to brum you'd think she's sorted something so she's not going to have to leave mid punt to see to the bambinos, which was a random concern.

You always have to give a few days notice with mums i've found.  The one thing that gets me with the above profile is that she has revamped and added a load of services after sticking solidly at £120 for a good year.
My questions are:

A) can she really perform all services to a good standard
B) is she too quiet and needs other stuff to differentiate in the market.

The old movie saying "no money no honey"
more like "half cut honey less money"



 
« Last Edit: August 31, 2014, 11:52:17 pm by house music dave »

Offline Daffodil

The vast majority of prostitutes are open to negotiation. Not every one on everyday, but there is absolutely no harm in asking, just do it politely.

If they agree? Great. You've saved yourself some cash.

She disagrees? Fine. See her at her stated rate if you want. If you're not desperate, leave it (her loss) and try again another day. Just because they decline one day, doesn't mean they will the next (rent approaching, business is quiet, electricity bill needs paying, need a fix).

She has her head up her own arse (sienna_bronze), spits her dummy out, and blocks you (yeh, great business sense  :rolleyes:) then just change your sim/get a new email...and ask again  ;)

Offline itk

I never got asked to lower the price of a set of acrylic nails and I've never asked my window cleaner for a discount rate either?
They don't charge in excess of £100p.h. :dash:

Sienna_Bronze

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Such bullshit  :hi:

This "business" is private seller to private buyer, so think Exhange and Mart. Haggling is ubiquitous. In addition I went into a camera shop on the high street the other week to buy a midrange camera and negotiated the price down, plus some extra kit.

In terms of the "trades" I would also negotiate with a plumber, a builder, a mechanic, and countless others.

Do you think a plasterer would throw his toys out if the pram if I dared to negotiate and block all future contact? Why do you think you're so special?  :dash:

I don't think I'm special, i just don't like it.

Offline house music dave

I don't think I'm special, i just don't like it.


Is the reason you don't like it because it doesn't fit with the view you have on yourself and feel if you did offer discounts you might be seen to be a different type of WG or do you not offer discounts for business reasons?

I'm sure saville row don't offer discounts  then again there aren't too many shops you can fit into one street.


Sienna_Bronze

  • Guest
I don't offer discounts for financial reasons. I can't expect everyone else I have to pay money to to reduce their prices. I also think that if you are setting your rates at a sensible price not many people will try to haggle anyway.

Offline sarahjayneleeds

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Ok Im following you - it was a question so I,ll ask in a another way. Should we take the cost of a venue into account when setting prices? If working from a flat should the cost of a clean set of sheet/towels/hot water etc be included in the price or offered as an extra?


Is that really a serious question?

Anyway on topic regardless what is being said by some, most WG's will work at a lower rate than advertised. Most of you have done RB's and seen this for yourselves. A lot of ladies are open to negotiation especially regarding overnights and longer bookings.

As with anything else with us  women it's not what you ask it's how you ask, so long as your not blatantly taking the piss what's the worse that can happen ? She either accepts it, you see her at her normal rate or she blocks you which wouldn't be the end of the world as there are plenty others. 

Offline house music dave


I don't offer discounts for financial reasons. I can't expect everyone else I have to pay money to to reduce their prices. I also think that if you are setting your rates at a sensible price not many people will try to haggle anyway.

A fair answer.

What i don't like is the aggressive tone WG's take about discounts. Take the british blue chip  M&S you are never gonna get one penny off any merchandise, however if you did ask, they'd still be polite in refusal. Not a dig at you, but all WG's need to watch their use of caps and exclamation marks you normally get about 5 after the discount q&a.  I'm shit at punctuation as you can tell but I do know the force of caps and exclamation marks.