Track stolen items

[Stevelondon]

Interesting read this morning.
A lady posted that her home had been broken into.
She had returned home after shopping, only to find the security chain to the front door had been put on (from the inside)
Valuables taken and her laptop.

She notified police etc.

She also told them she had tracked her laptop to an address about half a mile away.
Same as “Find my phone” I’m guessing.
Nothing the police could do apparently. Because of course they would need a warrant to search that address and there are all sorts of formalities that would prevent that.

So what’s your opinion on this.
Obviously if that’s my property I’d be fucking pissed off knowing I could locate it but not be able to get it back from the scumbags within. Can’t existing technology be grounds for the issue of a warrant. ?

It seems only burglars have right of entry nowadays….. not the police. 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

We had some stuff nicked a while ago someone saw them and took the vehcile number, but as the value was less than 200 quid Old bill said that it wasnt worth investigating!!

[Blackpool Rock]

Not surprising at all, the police are only interested in nicking ordinarily law abiding people for driving a few MPH over the limit these days 

I'm guessing the police would probably have also been able to work out that it was a known thief / burglar who lived at the address but just didn't give a fuck 

How long until people start taking the law into their own hands in this country to actually get things done, i'm sensing an increasing groundswell of people getting pissed off with the lack of action and ability of the police to do fuck all

[ulstersubbie]

Not surprising at all, the police are only interested in nicking ordinarily law abiding people for driving a few MPH over the limit these days 

I'm guessing the police would probably have also been able to work out that it was a known thief / burglar who lived at the address but just didn't give a fuck 

How long until people start taking the law into their own hands in this country to actually get things done, i'm sensing an increasing groundswell of people getting pissed off with the lack of action and ability of the police to do fuck all

+1

[Bertiebeenthere]

Interesting read this morning.
A lady posted that her home had been broken into.
She had returned home after shopping, only to find the security chain to the front door had been put on (from the inside)
Valuables taken and her laptop.


She notified police etc.

She also told them she had tracked her laptop to an address about half a mile away.
Same as “Find my phone” I’m guessing.
Nothing the police could do apparently. Because of course they would need a warrant to search that address and there are all sorts of formalities that would prevent that.

So what’s your opinion on this.
Obviously if that’s my property I’d be fucking pissed off knowing I could locate it but not be able to get it back from the scumbags within. Can’t existing technology be grounds for the issue of a warrant. ?

It seems only burglars have right of entry nowadays….. not the police. 

I maybe wrong, but under PACE 1984, the police don't need a search warrant if they have reason to believe that stolen property is on the premises

[lillythesavage]

I maybe wrong, but under PACE 1984, the police don't need a search warrant if they have reason to believe that stolen property is on the premises

You maybe right, but they assume you do not and tell you bollocks so as not to do anything, like with everything these days, they make it up as they go along.

[Doc Holliday]

I maybe wrong, but under PACE 1984, the police don't need a search warrant if they have reason to believe that stolen property is on the premises

No they need a warrant

The only possible exception is if an individual has been arrested and they may decide to search for evidence without a warrant, but it still requires signing off by a very senior officer.

[Markus]

The police really can’t be bothered.   It’s why I have contents insurance.  It’s better to just take the police report and file a claim with your insurer.  It’s the advice I received from the scruffy bloke who came an hour after we were broken in.  It’s infuriating how little they care or can be bothered by anything these days unless there is some pressure from the media.

The days when police used to be respected members of society are long gone. There isn’t a month goes by without a news story about some police officer having a sexual encounter with another police officer or someone they should be protecting.   They are all shagging each other.  I wouldn’t be surprised if half of them are on AW.

[Doc Holliday]

As others have said this is predominantly about the Police just not wishing to pursue. As with all things 'Constabulary' it is a post code lottery as well as being influenced by the particular officer(s) dealing with it.

To obtain a search warrant requires convincing a magistrate there are solid grounds to believe stolen goods are on the premises. This isn't especially onerous in itself, although the whole process of submitting the paperwork does involve time and resources. I understand also it may often take a few weeks before it is granted? This could mean the laptop would be gone before the search takes place. If you continue to track it another warrant would be needed etc

To stand any chance of it being pursued would depend also on where the tracking is putting it. If it shows the location as a block of flats then it simply isn't accurate enough to pinpoint it to a specific flat. A detached property in the country may be more feasible to pursue it? Then there is everything in between.

Finally the owner would also need to be able to confirm that it was there laptop if it is recovered. Serial number etc.

All possible to do but unlikely to be judged to be worth the resources unless linked to a more serious crime than burglary.

[donnybob]

Years ago I had a small shop, early hours of the morning it got broken into, the local milkman saw the vehicle speeding away and managed to get most of the registration number, but nothing happened.

A few weeks later I was chatting to the milkman and he told me the following

That partial number plate and vehicle was traced to two addresses in a nearby town, one was a notorious criminal family the other a retired district court judge, that WAS NOT enough evidence for the police to call in and get my fags back

This was told to him by one of the coppers who was disgusted but said there hands were tied

[jeanphillipe]

You wont beat my story. I had CCTV evidence of a opportunist entering our place of work and take my phones.
When he left building he can be seen examining the phones
Clear face and clothes were distinctive. Same character had hit other spots I later found out.

Police didnt bother, they said the CCTV was useless as it didnt show him actually pick up the phones and put them in his pocket.

The sickening feeling in my stomach when I would see him around. I did want to take the law in to my own hands but I dont want to go to prison myself.  I must have pictured in my head smashing the hand  of his that he used tot steal my phone with a baseball bat about a dozen times.

It had a decade of memorable photos.

Lesson learned I know have a insurance for all my tech which has come in useful twice since. Also I backup my
Gallery.

Old school policing is a thing of the past and its not entirely their fault with all the budget cuts.

[Yankee21]

Systematic depletion of man power and resources over last decade and a half, is the issue more than anything else.

[lillythesavage]

Systematic depletion of man power and resources over last decade and a half, is the issue more than anything else.

There is no shortage of BMW,s, do they not count as resources?  .


Everything from budget, training, recruitment, feeding, uniforms, offices in stations to do the paperwork required, has been dumbed down.

Third world standards in this country now, and that is where we are heading.

[Yankee21]

There is no shortage of BMW,s, do they not count as resources?  .


Everything from budget, training, recruitment, feeding, uniforms, offices in stations to do the paperwork required, has been dumbed down.

Third world standards in this country now, and that is where we are heading.

tad dramatic 

[NelsonH]

Youtube channel "Black Belt Barrister" has a video on this and is campaigning about it.  He covers a case where the victims go around at Midnight and recover the stolen phone.

Like all lawyers he talks too much, but is pretty interesting nonetheless.

The Police appear not to realise that ordinary people will no longer help them if them come across as useless. 

[lillythesavage]

tad dramatic 

Not really, infrastructure is crumbling, no money to fix it, all services in a real mess, power neglected for years and no answers now, cannot control the borders of a tiny island, politicians doing a Blair and filling their boots, nothing British Owned, can you think of anything in this country that is going in the right direction?

[lillythesavage]

Youtube channel "Black Belt Barrister" has a video on this and is campaigning about it.  He covers a case where the victims go around at Midnight and recover the stolen phone.

Like all lawyers he talks too much, but is pretty interesting nonetheless.

The Police appear not to realise that ordinary people will no longer help them if them come across as useless.

Yet another stolen car has been parked in my cul-de-sac, waiting to see if it has a tracker, dumb fuckers legged it leaving the Hazards on, so will be flat when they return for it.

CBA calling the Police, they will probably wake me around 3am when they can be bothered to check it out, fuckers did not even give me a crime number for 2 I reported stolen. Closed the case 15 minutes after the online reports.

Just seen on the news another big pay out for stop and search abuse, they already have lost the public, to late for them to realise 

[myothernameis]

Know someone in Glasgow had his bike stolen, and could tell police where the bike was, police not interested.

The bike had a tracker, and a week later the tracker was still working, and he could now see his bike was in the city centre.  Found his bike locked up, in a bike rack, and seen two police officers nearby, called them over

He was able to identify his bike, by the serial number, so now the person who locked the bike came out.  Seeing the police, and this other guy claiming the bike has been stolen, the other guy claimed it his bike, and had the bike for a good few months

The other guy was told, there a tracker in the bike, and the real owner, can proof this bike is his, serial number.  The other guy was placed under arrest, and his property was searched later on that day.  In his property were 6 other bikes, which the police seized, and the bike thieve got a suspended sentence

Bikes are still being stolen in Glasgow, and its suspected the thefts are down to this person, so much for the police and courts dealing with him.  Seemingly he is so brazen, that he will steal the bikes in the day time, he cuts the lock and is away, with in a few minutes

[Yankee21]

Not really, infrastructure is crumbling, no money to fix it, all services in a real mess, power neglected for years and no answers now, cannot control the borders of a tiny island, politicians doing a Blair and filling their boots, nothing British Owned, can you think of anything in this country that is going in the right direction?

As I said in my previous a lot f this can be placed at systematic cutting of resources across the board.
It's not as good as it once was, that's clear - a long way from being 'third world' though. 

[lillythesavage]

As I said in my previous a lot f this can be placed at systematic cutting of resources across the board.
It's not as good as it once was, that's clear - a long way from being 'third world' though. 

In some places maybe, take a tour of East London 

[Yankee21]

In some places maybe, take a tour of East London 

Great food and vibrant arts scene , but now we are swerving off topic.

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Police valiantly tried save kids yesterday.
As in all ways of life, some absolute legends walk amongst us.

[lillythesavage]

Great food and vibrant arts scene , but now we are swerving off topic.

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Police valiantly tried save kids yesterday.
As in all ways of life, some absolute legends walk amongst us.

Broken roads and pavements, filthy streets, homeless, beggars and addicts all over, buildings neglected, but all you see is trendy cafes 

[Yankee21]

Broken roads and pavements, filthy streets, homeless, beggars and addicts all over, buildings neglected, but all you see is trendy cafes 

Could be talking about any major city in the world tbh 

[Stevelondon]

Great food and vibrant arts scene , but now we are swerving off topic.

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Police valiantly tried save kids yesterday.
As in all ways of life, some absolute legends walk amongst us.

I’m going off drift here.

But…….. you’re right. Valiant efforts to save the children.
Sad yes.

But I couldn’t help but think, where were the bloody parents. One of those kids now in intensive care is six years old for fucks sake.
We’re my kids out and about by themselves at that age.

No they fuckin weren’t.

Sad indeed. Parents should be arrested for neglect.