Author Topic: How are you getting on with your Ukrainian house guests?  (Read 1512 times)

Offline Marmalade

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There was a big rush of sympathy on the forum at the start of the scheme and many members said they’d registered to take in Ukrainian refugees.

So how’s it going?

According to the DM, quite a few people are pissed off.
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No, we don’t understand what it was like for them. But I do get the feeling, mirrored by Zelensky’s attitude to the West, that Ukrainians expect their emergency to also be other people’s priority.

Unfortunately for them, other people also have their own lives to lead.

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A few hundred of them in the town next to me, very nice people, I always enjoy the chance to practice my Russian

Once winter arrives in Ukraine, I expect millions more to leave for the EU

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Hoping to hear from some punters that said they would take in Ukrainians (not for sex).

On athe other note, plenty of hot totty still advertising in Kiev:
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There was a big rush of sympathy on the forum at the start of the scheme and many members said they’d registered to take in Ukrainian refugees.

So how’s it going?

According to the DM, quite a few people are pissed off.
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No, we don’t understand what it was like for them. But I do get the feeling, mirrored by Zelensky’s attitude to the West, that Ukrainians expect their emergency to also be other people’s priority.

Unfortunately for them, other people also have their own lives to lead.

I think there is a distinction between Zelensky and his government compared with ordinary Ukrainians who at the time didn't know how bad it was going to get.

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Hoping to hear from some punters that said they would take in Ukrainians (not for sex).

On athe other note, plenty of hot totty still advertising in Kiev:
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I'm not going any time soon but am curious if you know how much these loveliest charge?

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I'm not going any time soon but am curious if you know how much these loveliest charge?
I just looked on the UKP search. Prices quoted for p4p I think went from £35 to £150 or thereabouts.

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An awful lot of people saying how people should do something but very few actually registering.
I'm simply asking those that did, what happened?
(And no, I didn't, nor suggest I would, but nothing against it.)

just checking the first 4 pages of the 8 page thread...

Seriously considering this
I've registered to possibly host a couple of refugees.
Yes, I would. I think I could move in with relatives and allow my property to be used by a small family. It'd be an imposition, but nothing like the problems faced by those who would benefit. These folks are someone's children / parents etc. If the situation were reversed I'd like to think that someone would do the same for us.
I have been considering over the last few days if I would and today they announced that in a few weeks they will allow in those sponsored by someone who lives here. I think the basic answer is yes a couple maybe but they would have to be middle aged/older and have a reasonable level of English. I am far too old for a crash course in Ukrainian. Although I don't think I would be prepared to for the long term.
I have not considered it before because I was not in a position to do so, I am now, this is happening now.

So any updates?

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I think there is a distinction between Zelensky and his government compared with ordinary Ukrainians who at the time didn't know how bad it was going to get.
Yes, I'm quite happy to acknowledge that... just seeing a bit of a similarity between the DM story of the Ukrainian blaming her host for everything as if it's her entitlement and Zelensky's rhetoric -- good 'statesmanship' but at times verging on emotional blackmail ("if you don't give me everything I ask for the blood is on your hands" -- well, no, it's not.)

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Yes, I'm quite happy to acknowledge that... just seeing a bit of a similarity between the DM story of the Ukrainian blaming her host for everything as if it's her entitlement and Zelensky's rhetoric -- good 'statesmanship' but at times verging on emotional blackmail ("if you don't give me everything I ask for the blood is on your hands" -- well, no, it's not.)

Listen, I read the Daily Mail too. It's free and that's the main reason I eyeball the site but the DM loves trying to stir up anti-foreigner sentiment so I personally wouldn't use their stories as a baseline to form an opinion.

Offline JontyR

Not going to go into too much detail as to how this is actually being facilitated but yes am supporting an incomplete family group.

As detailed on other threads i have some experience in supporting refugees and vulnerable people before so this is not something I was going into particuarly blind. Central support was not all it could have been. Voluntary support networks locally has been more enthusiastic and whilst well meaning hasn't really hit the spot in terms of support for the families or hosts.

It's shone a light as to how well our hidden systems are dependent on good staff. An administrator/receptionist at a doctor, or dentist, or school can be massively helpful and can make an experience if not a joy, certainly less nightmarish.

The family group here are respectful to property and others. I am guessing so may be totally wrong but the biggest barrier to them moving from "existing" to "thriving" is the lack of certainty relating to how and when this situation is eventually going to end. Whilst the situation I am in is sustainable longer-term I guess some hosts may find this more difficult as time goes on.

Whilst I appreciate the interest and I am sure that its well-meaning it is difficult to respond to without providing info that potentially assists identification on an anonymous forum.   

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Listen, I read the Daily Mail too. It's free and that's the main reason I eyeball the site but the DM loves trying to stir up anti-foreigner sentiment so I personally wouldn't use their stories as a baseline to form an opinion.
No worries Sir W, and I agree with you. I don't have strong opinions on it one way ofr the other. Just a thread starter. JontyR's response is truly remarkable. I wonder if he is the only forum member getting involved?

Not going to go into too much detail as to how this is actually being facilitated but yes am supporting an incomplete family group.

As detailed on other threads i have some experience in supporting refugees and vulnerable people before so this is not something I was going into particuarly blind. Central support was not all it could have been. Voluntary support networks locally has been more enthusiastic and whilst well meaning hasn't really hit the spot in terms of support for the families or hosts.

It's shone a light as to how well our hidden systems are dependent on good staff. An administrator/receptionist at a doctor, or dentist, or school can be massively helpful and can make an experience if not a joy, certainly less nightmarish.

The family group here are respectful to property and others. I am guessing so may be totally wrong but the biggest barrier to them moving from "existing" to "thriving" is the lack of certainty relating to how and when this situation is eventually going to end. Whilst the situation I am in is sustainable longer-term I guess some hosts may find this more difficult as time goes on.

Whilst I appreciate the interest and I am sure that its well-meaning it is difficult to respond to without providing info that potentially assists identification on an anonymous forum.

Absolutely fascinating, and thank you so much for your reply. Completely respect your situation and desire for anonymity for those concerned. It sounds like a remarkable experience and your insights both regarding the challenges for the guests and the situation with local services really, and which as you say, shines a light. The gap between well-meaning and delivery is made apparent and also, as you probably know when going into it, something worth doing even against the odds. Thanks again.

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Hoping to hear from some punters that said they would take in Ukrainians (not for sex).

On athe other note, plenty of hot totty still advertising in Kiev:
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Shame it's not in English - could be useful for future reference!

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Worked loosely with some Syrian and Ukrainian refugees.

I've learnt regardless of background and ethnicity.... that despair, hopelessness, pressure, stress and desperation is brutal. Especially when family is involved.

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Shame it's not in English - could be useful for future reference!

Use Google chrome. You will get offered the option to translate page to English.

Offline jeanphillipe

I have sympathy for the Ukranian everyday people
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Zelensky ...  well I'll keep my opinions to myself incase I get banned.


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Zelensky ...  well I'll keep my opinions to myself incase I get banned.
Just put them on the politics or hypersonics thread.