Author Topic: Joshua v Usyk II - £26.95  (Read 2555 times)

Offline Gordon Bennett

It's on Sky Box Office this Saturday night. Fight is scheduled for 10:54pm.

£26.95 is most expensive UK PPV ever. I might get it... Mrs GB wants to watch it and I can't risk her kicking off if my prefered illegal stream started buffering or freezing.

I've put money on Usyk to blitz AJ within 2 rounds so if I were right, nearly £30 to watch a few mins boxing would cheesecake off no end!

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Offline radioman33

Usyk should win this he’s 1/2 with AJ price at 13/8 draw 20s.
I hope he knocks AJ out.

Offline berksboy

Usyk by KO but not as early as round2 , round 8 on I would think.

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Mrs GB has now conceded that she is unlikely to be clear headed and sober at 11pm so it's not worth stumping up nearly £30 for Sky Box Office.

I will give it a go on Kodi and if that fails, listen in to Talk Sport's live radio commentary.

Do you get a decent big fight atmosphere in Saudi? Half the fun of these big fights is all the razzmatazz, huge raucous crowds and OTT ringwalks but is that all a bit subdued or do plenty of Brits and fight fans rock up and bring the fun?

Offline Offtoasda

Ain't no way AJ gets knocked out by round 2, give him some credit guys!

Offline Dynasty89

Didn't realize the fight was so soon. I want AJ to win but Usyk is miles ahead as a boxer. AJ should focus on coming in as big as possible and abuse size, use the old Klitschko jab and grab style.

Offline Gordon Bennett

Ain't no way AJ gets knocked out by round 2, give him some credit guys!

Why shouldn't he get tagged in first 6 minutes? I've got it at 100/1 - I reckon that's great value. AJ ain't winning this fight, he's deffo losing so given Usyk will be bigger, stronger and seething about life in general I feel that likelihood of him stream rolling AJ in short-order is significantly enhanced.

Offline berksboy

So after all the chat both have come in at all but the same weight as last time . AJ is only 4lbs more but when you are 240+ a extra 4lbs is sod all. Usyk is only up 6.5lbs but as he was 215 last time out thats not much.Just hope its worth £27  :drinks:
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Offline Gordon Bennett

So after all the chat both have come in at all but the same weight as last time . AJ is only 4lbs more but when you are 240+ a extra 4lbs is sod all. Usyk is only up 6.5lbs but as he was 215 last time out thats not much.Just hope its worth £27  :drinks:

Yes. All that nonsense about Usyk allegedly being two stone beefier earlier in the week..... wonder what that was all about????

Offline AsianErdos

Waiting to see the fight as well, I just want AJ to get knocked out. I can't stand him!

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The only time I paid for a fight a fat,drugged up Hatton tturned up and got battered in short order,never again.
I can't see the show pony winning and 100s for the first 2 rounds seems value.
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its a pretty decent card in fairness for a ppv

Offline berksboy

As for people who say Usky is too small he is about the same size as Ali , Norton and Holmes. He is bigger then Frazier , Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

Its not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
Mark Twain.

Offline Dynasty89

As for people who say Usky is too small he is about the same size as Ali , Norton and Holmes. He is bigger then Frazier , Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

Its not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
Mark Twain.

That's true but he is nowhere near as hard hitting as Mike Tyson or as skilled as Muhammad Ali.

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As for people who say Usky is too small he is about the same size as Ali , Norton and Holmes. He is bigger then Frazier , Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

Its not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
Mark Twain.

True, but the taller heavier boxer can nevertheless have certain advantages.

Last time round Joshua appeared to have the dumbest strategy possible which was to play Usyk's game and attempt to outbox him instead of playing to his own strengths. 

If AJ doesn’t have a better strategy this time around he’s going to get thumped again.

Fury is better than either of them.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2022, 08:13:00 pm by bigden40 »

Offline Jabba the Slut

Both fighters to suffer a knock down
4-1 is my bet...

Offline Dynasty89

Joshua's post fight speech... absolutely bizarre and cringe

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Probably realizes that's it for him as far as the big time goes. Never did enough to win the fight. Usyk threw 300 more punches than him. If he has the desire he needs to get his ass over in those tough American gyms with a proper trainer and start from scratch. He still fights like an amateur.

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Probably realizes that's it for him as far as the big time goes. Never did enough to win the fight. Usyk threw 300 more punches than him. If he has the desire he needs to get his ass over in those tough American gyms with a proper trainer and start from scratch. He still fights like an amateur.

Well 2 of the judges agree with you but one must have been watching a different fight !

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Probably realizes that's it for him as far as the big time goes. Never did enough to win the fight. Usyk threw 300 more punches than him. If he has the desire he needs to get his ass over in those tough American gyms with a proper trainer and start from scratch. He still fights like an amateur.

I didn't see the fight so I Don't know whether the judges scored it rightly or wrongly but what Joshua did by grabbing two of the belts and throwing them out of the ring was out of order. Has he been trained by Christiano Ronaldo in childish petulance   :unknown: A great sportsman knows how to win but a great sportsman man knows how to loose with dignity.

Offline Gordon Bennett

Found the fight a bit dull and tedious. I had to watch it with no sound cos there was a 15 second lag between sound and picture on the feed I found, maybe that detracted from how it looked/felt?
All week I've felt AJ has looked dazed, stoned and subdued. Can't say he particularly livened up on the night either. Dunno if I'm being unreasonable but when heavyweight championship is at stake I'd kind of expect both protagonists to collapse exhausted after 12 rounds and be covered in cuts, bumps and bruises - they both seemed pretty fresh and physically unscathed to me though.

Offline berksboy

" I'd kind of expect both protagonists to collapse exhausted after 12 rounds and be covered in cuts, bumps and bruises "

Funny but you dont get points or win by getting hit ! On the night Usyk was way better and god knows how some clown of a judge had AJ winning  :dash:
Even on sky (no crap streaming for me ) there was no big fight atmosphere to be had with only a max of 10,000 tea towel crowd so if Usyk v Fury happens lets hope its in front of 90,000+ real fight fans , yes they may get a bit more money off the Arabs but just how much do they need ?
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" I'd kind of expect both protagonists to collapse exhausted after 12 rounds and be covered in cuts, bumps and bruises "

Funny but you dont get points or win by getting hit ! On the night Usyk was way better and god knows how some clown of a judge had AJ winning  :dash:
Even on sky (no crap streaming for me ) there was no big fight atmosphere to be had with only a max of 10,000 tea towel crowd so if Usyk v Fury happens lets hope its in front of 90,000+ real fight fans , yes they may get a bit more money off the Arabs but just how much do they need ?
If i was getting punched in the head by the biggest and best head punchers on the planet in front of a massive audience I'd want every last penny. And whilst I don't encourage tax avoidance I would want to know exactly why the government were taking 40% of my £40 million. So I can well understand why they go oversseas.

On the fight I think it cannot be underestimated the amount of influence the last seconds of every round can have on the mindset of those judging. And also the last few rounds of the fight.

Usyk clearly won the last 3 rounds. But if Joshua had won just one of them, like he had won the 9th, he'd have drawn the fight. If he'd have won 2 he would have got the decision, which wouldn't have been as much of a travesty as the decision on the card immediately previous.

Eddie Hearn was telling every outlet afterwards how he went to AJ after the 9th and said "You've got him, he's finished." Well couple of thoughts, 1. What the fuck was he doing getting in the way? and 2. Didn't that turn out to be exactly the worst kind of message to say? If he'd have said... have that round again and you can't lose the fight maybe Joshua would have been able to drag the energy up from somewhere. 

It'd be interesting to see what happens next, Fury may be a better boxer than Joshua but I don't know he hits any harder. Could this be the way back into the scene for Wilder? Could he tag Usyk?

Offline Dynasty89

If i was getting punched in the head by the biggest and best head punchers on the planet in front of a massive audience I'd want every last penny. And whilst I don't encourage tax avoidance I would want to know exactly why the government were taking 40% of my £40 million. So I can well understand why they go oversseas.

On the fight I think it cannot be underestimated the amount of influence the last seconds of every round can have on the mindset of those judging. And also the last few rounds of the fight.

Usyk clearly won the last 3 rounds. But if Joshua had won just one of them, like he had won the 9th, he'd have drawn the fight. If he'd have won 2 he would have got the decision, which wouldn't have been as much of a travesty as the decision on the card immediately previous.

Eddie Hearn was telling every outlet afterwards how he went to AJ after the 9th and said "You've got him, he's finished." Well couple of thoughts, 1. What the fuck was he doing getting in the way? and 2. Didn't that turn out to be exactly the worst kind of message to say? If he'd have said... have that round again and you can't lose the fight maybe Joshua would have been able to drag the energy up from somewhere. 

It'd be interesting to see what happens next, Fury may be a better boxer than Joshua but I don't know he hits any harder. Could this be the way back into the scene for Wilder? Could he tag Usyk?

Fury is faster than Joshua with a much longer reach, way more stamina and better boxing skills. He also is very good at using his size. I don't see Usyk beating Fury.

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I paid £3.05 more for a certain app on a stick which gets me all channels and more for a year. Had it for about 5 years now and I'll never pay them silly prices again

Can you give any clue as to how to get this app? You probably can't name it but some to would be appreciated.

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Can you give any clue as to how to get this app? You probably can't name it but some to would be appreciated.

never heard of a firestick?

Offline Bornslippy

I pay £45 per year for my IPTV service provider. Now my 3rd year. excellent picture quality and zero buffering. my tight arse nephew when his mates "popped" round to watch it with me....yes i know it can be taken down but in 3 years it has easily paid for itself. United Liverpool game later  :thumbsup:
it's not Firestick but app on my tv. Google and Apple stores have cracked down on it now
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Joshua has far too many people blowing smoke up his arse and taking a living off him,you only have to see the bizarre advice given by his corner and Hearn in both fights now.
All this fawning has clearly gone to his having seen the bizarre post fight rant.
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Offline berksboy

" And whilst I don't encourage tax avoidance I would want to know exactly why the government were taking 40% of my £40 million."

  Dont they have accountants to make sure they dont pay 45% in tax ? I say 45% as its 45% over 150,000. And yes its far too much !
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" And whilst I don't encourage tax avoidance I would want to know exactly why the government were taking 40% of my £40 million."

  Dont they have accountants to make sure they dont pay 45% in tax ? I say 45% as its 45% over 150,000. And yes its far too much !

most will be paying 20% tax there is always a loophole, most if not all footballers use it.

Offline radioman33

It will happen Fury v Usyk as the money will be huge.

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Can't be bothered with gloved boxing now..
Hardly any bumps bruises cuts nowadays.
Let alone pay for it...

Bareknuckle boxing far far more entertaining..
Bruising broken bones Blood spillage to the core👊👊👊👊👊👊
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Tyson reckons it was all a shambles and he'd take both on the same night!..

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Tyson reckons it was all a shambles and he'd take both on the same night!..

At his peak he probably could but he is now a has been  . How did he do in his last few fights, he was beaten by bums.

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At his peak he probably could but he is now a has been  . How did he do in his last few fights, he was beaten by bums.

Whupps TYSON FURY!!!

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At his peak he probably could but he is now a has been  . How did he do in his last few fights, he was beaten by bums.

He had blessed talent, did not enhance it, and was left at potential stage to be the greatest ever.
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Offline Dynasty89

At his peak he probably could but he is now a has been  . How did he do in his last few fights, he was beaten by bums.

Even past his peak Mike Tyson who came out of prison and won the title again in 1996 would beat AJ or Usyk
The prime 1980s Mike would annihilate either of them

The Mike Tyson who fought Lennox Lewis circa 2002 was way past it though... he declined very hard between 1996 (where he was very good but not quite as good as he was in the 1980s) and 2003 (where he had mentally given up and not trying).
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Even past his peak Mike Tyson who came out of prison and won the title again in 1996 would beat AJ or Usyk
The prime 1980s Mike would annihilate either of them

The Mike Tyson who fought Lennox Lewis circa 2002 was way past it though... he declined very hard between 1996 (where he was very good but not quite as good as he was in the 1980s) and 2003 (where he had mentally given up and not trying).

Lewis also around same age.. a bit more zip in the tank
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Whupps TYSON FURY!!!

Should have read the link properly  :dash: thought it was Mike Tyson not Tyson Fury. Of course Tyson Fury would beat them both.

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Tyson Fury is a glorified pub fighter. I think he's vastly overrated, nothing special about him in terms of stamina, punching power or ring work.


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Best footwork in the modern heavyweight era by an absolute country mile. But I think they're all dull to watch.

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Tyson Fury is a glorified pub fighter. I think he's vastly overrated, nothing special about him in terms of stamina, punching power or ring work.

he has a massive stamina tank/reserve, to be able to move that size and weight around the way he does whilst fighting for 12 rounds is actually amazing.

his ring work is also fantastic

punch power isn’t the best for his size/weight but any punch off a man that size us going to hurt

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Lewis also around same age.. a bit more zip in the tank

Lewis definitely reached his peak at a later age.. under Emmanuel Steward he perfected the jab grab style

I think Lennox is the best heavyweight of the last 25 years

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he has a massive stamina tank/reserve, to be able to move that size and weight around the way he does whilst fighting for 12 rounds is actually amazing.

his ring work is also fantastic

punch power isn’t the best for his size/weight but any punch off a man that size us going to hurt
Tbh I just don't rate most modern boxers compared to the 90s the quality has really gone down. Nobody fears fighting Tyson Fury, but they feared Iron Mike, Tommy Morrison, even Bruno was scary. Fury comes across like a pissed up bloke in a pub by comparison.

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Tbh I just don't rate most modern boxers compared to the 90s the quality has really gone down. Nobody fears fighting Tyson Fury, but they feared Iron Mike, Tommy Morrison, even Bruno was scary. Fury comes across like a pissed up bloke in a pub by comparison.

1970's 1990's were the best.. ( modern era)
Now it's nonsense

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This is the level it is now in comparison to a very good fighter
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Tbh I just don't rate most modern boxers compared to the 90s the quality has really gone down. Nobody fears fighting Tyson Fury, but they feared Iron Mike, Tommy Morrison, even Bruno was scary. Fury comes across like a pissed up bloke in a pub by comparison.

I don't think Fury is the type of boxer to fear the same way one would fear Mike Tyson. He's the type to box you over 12 rounds rather than KO you in 1.

He was the only boxer who actually got into Wladimir Klitschko's head psychologically. Wlad probably didn't fear Fury, but he definitely seemed spooked by him. The same way Liston was spooked by Muhammad Ali's unpredictable antics/behaviour.

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Getting a bit fed up now of ‘ Retired’ Fury’s big gob now.

When he comes back…remind him he owes Piers Morgan One million for doing so.

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He's a do as they likey so Morgan has got about as much chance of getting his money as i do of doing Kylie up the bum !