Mel (aka YoungNSingle) – Adultwork 2534174 – Defining gorgeousness…

[Jason]

By way of an update Mel is temporarily back to her former £150ph rate. According to what she told me it will remain so for the next 3-4 weeks before it is raised again to £200ph. I hope the price drop is not just temporary but I really doubt it will remain £150ph after Easter. In any case at £150ph at this flat she is certainly a bargain. A big flat even having a 55-inch TV in the living room showing porn - replicating favourite scenes and role plays in the bedroom is a good idea. By the way I saw another girl (English model) who had been constantly at £200ph dropping down to £150ph temporarily due to Easter but I will keep that one secret for the moment. Adverse effects come in mind...

[SWLondon]

Touting?

I can take cheerleading but this is getting a bit much now

[JamesRockford]

Yep - Jason, mate, you're really putting your all into promoting this girl.  Roll up, Roll up, final extra dates!

Hope that she appreciates your valiant efforts, Sir.

[Jason]

Touting? I can take cheerleading but this is getting a bit much now

SWLondon I know your bitterness over this one. For everyone who doesn't know here is the reason. A punter who seeks guarantees in punting, makes claims about "many other girls" that he can’t back up and later humiliated when his claims are proven to be utter bullshit. If you believe that updating a review over a price drop is considered touting then feel free to report me to Admin. I wish you luck. 

Yep - Jason, mate, you're really putting your all into promoting this girl.  Roll up, Roll up, final extra dates!
Hope that she appreciates your valiant efforts, Sir.

JamesRockford mate I see how you have the habit of accusing many members for touting. You sound like the old Windows Vista Antivirus system: External Link/Members Only ... According to your logic every review for an expensive prossie is touting, every positive review submitted by a new reviewer reads like “been written by a female”, etc. Thank fuck that Admin is much smarter than some of the self-appointed guardians like yourself who indulge in witch-hunting. The fact that one of your only friends here is the wanker of the year speaks volumes about yourself as well. 

[ram2184]

calm down jason  . I saw all your past reports on mel and it would seem you are giving her a certain hype to the extent of informing her how to manage her aw profile and time.  I am sure she would be grateful to know that you have put in a good word for her in ukp. it just seems a bit odd though.

oh no  I do understand that this is a pay for sex industry. I just did not know how pay for companionship works. Anyway my apologies i am sure Mel and you had a great date on Valentine's day. Did you get her chocolates and roses apart from her incall fee  ? Everyone must be thinking how a bloke like you was able to get a girlfriend like her. If only those bastards knew your secret 

as i said this is all very strange.

Anyway to further add jason's touting i have previously mentioned that this girl was testing the waters with 200 pounds per hour rate and i am pretty sure he phone was getting dusty as she is not worth that rate at all!

on another note previously on her AW PAGE she has tried this "catch me if for the 150 pounds per hour rate before it becomes 200 pounds or more".. she has tried this marketing twice before this and this would be a third time although the marketing strategy has changed as JASON is doing it on her behalf!

during this "catch me while you can period" expect her to have conveyor belt session.. her not showering between clients and hushing you asap.. this is a ploy and an evil marketing strategy(using ukp member) to make you part with 150 quids for a sub par service!

[Herges Adventures]

.... her not showering between clients and hushing you asap.. this is a ploy and an evil marketing strategy (using ukp member) to make you part with 150 quids for a sub par service!

We look forward to your review of her or, indeed, any girl at all then 

[shagbambi]

Thanks for the update Jason.

[password02]

We look forward to your review of her or, indeed, any girl at all then 

+1 - Really do not take too much notice of any posts where the member has 0 reviews - He may be right but absolutely no interest my end.

[mrhappypants]

+1. I give Jason's view plenty of credence. Accusations of him touting are bullshit in my opinion.

Dave

[hendrix]

Somebody in this thread isn't a genuine punter. And, it's not Jason.

[JamesRockford]

Ouch, Jason - someone's a wee bit sensitive where they don't need to be.

Relax... I didn't call you a tout or mean to imply that you were one, matey!  You're just enthusiastic I guess.  And as to "friends on this site" I don't come here to find friends or enemies.  Just to exchange information honestly.

Am I a witch-finder?  Nope, just a good old fashioned 1970's PI.

 

[ram2184]

We look forward to your review of her or, indeed, any girl at all then 

ok no problem. it is a hidden gem which i have seen multiple times but i will share now.

[ram2184]

+1 - Really do not take too much notice of any posts where the member has 0 reviews - He may be right but absolutely no interest my end.

believe me it will be a 150 pound per hour meet and meeting a girl heavily perfumed that has not showered. she will clock watch plus she has pull this marketing strategy at least twice.

[ram2184]

Somebody in this thread isn't a genuine punter. And, it's not Jason.

i punt but i do not pay hookers to eat food with me and well pay for her food as well. that is beneath me.

[hendrix]

i punt but i do not pay hookers to eat food with me and well pay for her food as well. that is beneath me.

Well, at 36 stone (as you claim) I wouldn't want to be beneath you either! If you are what you claim, then I don't wish to be rude, but you seem happy to criticise people for punting how they want, if that means paying for a hookers meal, who fucking cares? What about if you wanted to stick some food up a hooker and eat it out of her and share it? Would you pay for the food? Or demand a discount for the bits she ate?

[password02]

ok no problem. it is a hidden gem which i have seen multiple times but i will share now.

Waiting?  Can you confirm where you have posted as it seems nothing has been seen on UKP yet?

[Quesadilla]

Well, at 36 stone (as you claim) I wouldn't want to be beneath you either! If you are what you claim, then I don't wish to be rude, but you seem happy to criticise people for punting how they want, if that means paying for a hookers meal, who fucking cares? What about if you wanted to stick some food up a hooker and eat it out of her and share it? Would you pay for the food? Or demand a discount for the bits she ate?

...or is it more a concern that if he takes an escort for dinner he might accidentally eat her? 

Still no review forthcoming - probably takes a while to fabricate one...

[Herges Adventures]

believe me....

I do not. Write a fucking review or do one, frankly. Would rather read fluffy bullshit than rumour and innuendo.

[password02]

I do not. Write a fucking review or do one, frankly. Would rather read fluffy bullshit than rumour and innuendo.

+2 maybe he is in a meeting OR perhaps looking to think up a review?

[bucksboy]

You are not wrong Jason, in fact you summed JR up to a tee...could not wait to lay those accusations on me too, even got a stupid PM as if he was talking to the WG in question...still we all have our own sense of humour i guess.

[JamesRockford]

You are not wrong Jason, in fact you summed JR up to a tee...could not wait to lay those accusations on me too, even got a stupid PM as if he was talking to the WG in question...still we all have our own sense of humour i guess.

..... er Bucksboy, you did kind of slip and give the game away by flirting with me honey.  No half-decent PI is going to ignore the clues when they're thrown at him so temptingly. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=49640.msg654275#msg654275

[squeezebox]

Well, at 36 stone (as you claim) I wouldn't want to be beneath you either! If you are what you claim, then I don't wish to be rude, but you seem happy to criticise people for punting how they want, if that means paying for a hookers meal, who fucking cares? What about if you wanted to stick some food up a hooker and eat it out of her and share it? Would you pay for the food? Or demand a discount for the bits she ate?

  I shouldn't laugh as it may be true and ram might be quite sensitive about it.

I said to my partner, "I look fat. Can you give me a compliment?"
She said.."You have perfect eyesight."

There is more credibility in his/her review arguments if he/she actually posts a review.

[Jason]

I let it go last time. He didn't get my warning and attacked me again. Fatal mistake. Below is a nice report about Mr ram2184 for Admin as well as for everyone else to see:

The troll case of ram2184 (also previously banned troll – Rajdunda and his incarnations)

Issue A
For starters ram 2184 attempted to impersonate another genuine AW punter called ram2184 in order to earn his credibility. External Link/Members Only is the genuine AW one. When he was caught out he claimed that it was a coincidence. Of course “meeting” two of the prossies that the genuine ram2184 met was a coincidence as well. Sure…

Issue B
He is most definitely previously banned troll rajdunda and his reincarnations shahrukh and tazadoner.

Below are the reasons:
(a) Same writing styles, grammar, capitalisation and emoticon usage.
Example 1:
tazadoner in this post said:

You might one to add in the part one SMALL SINGLE BED as well  positions can be quite limited actually

ram2184 in this post said:

a month it would be an extra = 8000 POUNDS i am sure it would be more than enough to cover her new FLAT!

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Example 2:
rajdunda in this post said:

You could feel her anus muscle gripping your dick really hard. BEST ANAL i have ever had!

ram2184 in this post said:

a month it would be an extra = 8000 POUNDS i am sure it would be more than enough to cover her new FLAT!

ram2184 in this post said:

on another note previously on her AW PAGE she has tried

strategy has changed as JASON is doing it on

ram2184 in this post said

it has nothing to do with the girl but it is the AREA. i am warning your guys on the area.

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(b) Same requests and expressions. Below are some examples:
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Example 1:
rajdunda in this post said:

did you try her anal service by the way west8? was she tight?

ram2184 in this post said:

has anyone tried her anal? is her ass tight?

ram2184 in this post said

does she have limits in regards to her position? is she tight or loose and can you fuck her arse hard?

ram2184 in this post said:

is she really tight during anal

Comment: Apart from the eerie similarities in the request about tight arse also note the change in the word usage. He used “ass” initially (like rajdunda) but after he was first accused for being a previously banned member he changed it into “arse”.

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Example 2:
shahrukh in this post said:

Please consider offering ANAL service this time around?

ram2184 in this post said

has anyone tried her a level service?

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Example 3:
shahrukh in this post said:

can she take a hard pounding in the ass..

ram2184 in this post said

can she take a hard anal pounding? is her ass tight?

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Example 4:
rajdunda in this post said:

You could feel her anus muscle gripping your dick really hard.

ram2184 in this post said:

seeing the anus muscle stretched and gripping your cock really hard during anal

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Example 5:
rajdunda in this post said about Michelle Independent:

i find her very attractive with superb service. But if you are not into blondes then i suggest adele4u as she is attractive, allows cim and provides GFE that is on par with michele for 130 quids.

rajdunda in this post said:

in person how do you find her? is she really beautifull? more beautifull than adele or michelle independant?

tazadoner in this post said:

For 130 per hour i think michelle, nicole or adele would be a better choice

ram2184 in this post said:

better see adele or michelle

Comment: note the usage of Michelle and Adele always together as their top recommendation or point of reference.

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Example 6:

shahrukh in this post said:

for a regular prossie to charge that amount is rubbish..

ram2184 in this post said:

mel 200 pounds per hour is rubbish!!

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Example 7:

rajdunda  in this post said:

in person how do you find her? is she really beautifull? more beautifull than adele or michelle independant?

ram2184 in this post said:

We both have seen adele may i know facially is kasia more attractive than adele?

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(c)They met (or claimed that they met) the same prossies.
-Rajdunda claimed that he met:
1. Adele4u
2. Michelle Independent
3. Stunning Julie
4. Here he stated (back in late January) that he was going to meet Khloe in Colindale two weeks later
5. Asked about Anna-Marie here

-ram2184 met (or claimed that he met, click the links to see his posts):
1. Adele4u
2. Michelle Independent
3. Stunning Julie (implied)
4. Khloe
5. Anna-Marie

He additionally claimed that he met (stated for future reference when he will come back after banning)
6.Mel
7. Bella Young
8. Lovely Annushka
9. Hot Teen Fuck
10. _Suzanne_
11. Spicy Julia (btw here he got her price wrong. Julia was never £100ph. When she started she was £110ph)

(d)They were both sarcastic about other punters’ activities like here about my dinner date with Mel and here about hendrix’s MMF where he hired a male escort.

Issue C
ram2184 (the fake UKP one) was caught completely contradicting himself in the following cases:

1. Regarding Khloe. In this post in response to a comment of the reviewer that Khloe told him he was the 4th guy he was meeting on that day ram2184 said:

it would have spoilt the punt for me.i would probably not do dfk and ask for ow if she said that to me

Yet in this *earlier* post on a different thread about Khloe he said:

i did ask her that question during on of our meeting and it was like west said around 7 or 8 on average. 10 would be her maximum as she told me. She does not take in black clients anymore as they were rough with her although they represented a majority of her clients. So maybe her numbers have gone down due to her new limitations.

2. Regarding KDD. In this post he was enquiring about KDD clearly not having met her up to that date. In the same thread he asked about her butt and after receiving a response he remarked in this post the following:

big buttman ass? yikes! wish there was a photo of her from behind. At least a pic of her body so as to know what can be expected.

Later, however while commenting about rise of prices he said in this post

kdd prices are higher but she is probably the only girl that offers that service at those rates..

Issue D
He started a bunch of trollish threads which can be read here


There is no doubt that ram2184 is a troll both in this incarnation and his previous ones. 

[hendrix]

I shouldn't laugh as it may be true and ram might be quite sensitive about it.

I said to my partner, "I look fat. Can you give me a compliment?"
She said.."You have perfect eyesight."

There is more credibility in his/her review arguments if he/she actually posts a review.

If ram is a genuine punter (and it truly is a coincidence that he's picked ram2184 and not just "borrowed" it from the real ram2184 who I'm aware is a genuine punter) then fair enough, I'm wrong and I also apologise for any digs about his size, assuming that's true as well. I have my doubts still though tbh.


And.....it looks like Jason has taken the time to put the meat on the bones of my doubt..so to speak!  

[bucksboy]

Yes Hercule, as i said you were just WAY too smart for a young gal like me...though i am smart enough to be able to post from UK when i am on holiday abroad...which is pretty smart eh?

[Quesadilla]

I let it go last time. He didn't get my warning and attacked me again. Fatal mistake. Below is a nice report about Mr ram2184 for Admin as well as for everyone else to see:
....

There is no doubt that ram2184 is a troll both in this incarnation and his previous ones. 

In a word Jason - wow! 

[ram2184]

 

all i can say is YIKES  Jason really sorry but i am not rajdunda or that other guy. we do have indian nicks but maybe because we are indian. I really have no idea how you would assume such things with all those examples you gave but have a glass on me 

I am warning punters on your fluffy/touting reviews. i believe you are benefitting from her since she does know the existence of UKP and probably knows you contribute here. Your frequent updates on her and untrue reports on her services saying her likes list is accurate is totally not true. She does not do period play or receive humilition among others. her services are very vanilla and basic in fact. Let's not forget her using the "get me before increase my rate" tactic while cashing in lots of customer while giving sub par service and not showering.

You are so fluffy when it comes to her paying her to eat her food with you apart from paying for the food as well and not to mention you have stated that you actually spied on her flat(which is really bizarre by the way!)  . So you would understand why i think you are touting and giving punter false information on her while at the same time getting free time or service with her.

[password02]

all i can say is YIKES  Jason really sorry but i am not rajdunda or that other guy. we do have indian nicks but maybe because we are indian. I really have no idea how you would assume such things with all those examples you gave but have a glass on me 

The only thing is i am warning punters on your fluffy/touting reviews. i believe you are benefitting from her since she does know the existence of UKP and probably knows you contribute here. Your frequent updates on her and untrue reports on her service saying her likes list is inaccurate. She does not do period play or receive humilition among others. her services are very vanilla and basic in fact. Let's not forget her using the "get me before increase my rate" tactic while cashing in lots of customer while giving sub par service and not showering.

You are so fluffy when it comes to her paying her to eat her food with you apart from paying for the food as well and not to mention you have stated that you actually spied on her flat(which is really bizarre by the way!)  . So you would understand why i think you are touting and giving punter false information on her while at the same time getting free time or service with her.

I am in Jason's camp here -

AND BTW where is the review about this ''Gem'' you said you were going to post several hours ago?   We are still waiting!!!! .

[ram2184]

I am in Jason's camp here -

AND BTW where is the review about this ''Gem'' you said you were going to post several hours ago?   We are still waiting!!!! .

i got distracted by jason accusation. give me some time.

[ram2184]

i got distracted by jason accusation. give me some time.

[hendrix]

i got distracted by jason accusation. give me some time.

Err.....No. Looks like Admin agrees with the consensus

Sad fucking twat.

[Hornydevil247]

I am in Jason's camp here -

AND BTW where is the review about this ''Gem'' you said you were going to post several hours ago?   We are still waiting!!!! .

Hi Mr PW

The only gem he found was the fake jewellery you get in Christmas crackers

HD

[password02]

No review Ha Ha  - Another banned troll

[monstar]

Sorry you are wrong here ram. 

In my opinion, Jason is one of the most impartial and honest reviewers on UKP, I believe he has a soft spot for Mel but he has also seen her enough for that to be understandable and yet I don't believe he would let that influence his posts.

The regular updates are for punters interest, as in line with the sites ethos and I personally find the updates useful, a lot more than your contributions, ram. 

Edit: oh, he is banned now! 

[lewishamguy]

That muppet might be a genuine punter but there's no doubt that he was a previously banned trolls (rajdunda, shahrukh) of several times that's what I spotted earlier from his arselicking posts. I very much doubt but he'll be back again.

 

[hendrix]

That muppet might be a genuine punter but there's no doubt that he was a previously banned trolls (rajdunda, shahrukh) of several times that's what I spotted earlier from his arselicking posts. I very much doubt but he'll be back again.

 

He'll need to change his MO if he wants to last longer this time.

[lewishamguy]

He'll need to change his MO if he wants to last longer this time.

I wonder if he'll change ever as long as he's Abdul collective. Of course time will tell.
 

[Mr.WeirdBeard]

I let it go last time. He didn't get my warning and attacked me again. Fatal mistake. Below is a nice report about Mr ram2184 for Admin as well as for everyone else to see:

Wow. Just. Wow.

Here's the thing: I have seen Mel. I have not posted a review as I didn't have much to add. I agree with Jason that she is a bargain at £150 and she is a woman defining gorgeousness. However, I agree with the troll that what you're doing here is too much. Updating at every price change, every flat move etc.. You are actively promoting her. I don't really mind, but he has a point..

[mrhappypants]

Wow. Just. Wow.

Here's the thing: I have seen Mel. I have not posted a review as I didn't have much to add. I agree with Jason that she is a bargain at £150 and she is a woman defining gorgeousness. However, I agree with the troll that what you're doing here is too much. Updating at every price change, every flat move etc.. You are actively promoting her. I don't really mind, but he has a point..

In my view it is pretty easy to differentiate between a discriminating positive reviewer (Jason) and bland inaccurate hyperbolic positive commentary which is the stock in trade of self proclaimed "fluffies,"

Dave

[Jason]

So you would understand why i think you are touting and giving punter false information on her while at the same time getting free time or service with her.

Fucking troll. Fuck off and die. As for Mel I doubt that you even met her. Everything you knew about her was the things I said in my reviews where I made sure to mention any negative and neutral points about her. I told you that I was going to piss on your grave and this time I will make sure you remain in this grave forever. I advise Admin banned IP addresses to not only be barred from membership and posting but from lurking as well. Only exception to be for banned prossies as tracking their logs helps to find out who attempts to out punters.

However, I agree with the troll that what you're doing here is too much. Updating at every price change, every flat move etc.. You are actively promoting her. I don't really mind, but he has a point..

No the troll doesn't have ANY point. I am accused for posting updates for the price or place as if I wanted to promote the girl. Here is what will silence the stupid critiques and the fucking trolls with whom you agree. I am the one who asked Admin this:

Adam I am planning to do some work on the wiki but I have a few questions of whether you allow a few things I envisage:
(ii)Do you allow the creation of wiki pages with reviews? Not links to the forum reviews but the review to be directly created on the wiki as a page. My idea is to post reviews first on the wiki and then the same review on the forum section and put a link in the forum review towards the wiki. In that case we can post updates or modify reviews on the wiki without bumping threads on the review section. Do you accept such practice? Another idea is to create profiles of WGs and transfer all reviews and comments of review nature made about them on a nice and neat page. What do you think?

And Admin replied this:

Don't really think that's suitable (using the Wiki for reviews). Am only intending PW to be a directory + punting guides.

I am planning on adding a feature to UKP to allow edit of posts / reviews (with no time restriction), but they'll need to be admin approved before actually changing as I don't want someone to go back and edit out all their posts and make hundreds of threads unreadable.

I hope this non-time constrained editing feature for forum posts/reviews promised by Admin is introduced soon in order to silently edit my reviews about updates without bumping up the review thread. These moronic touting accusations over updates from fucking trolls and “guardians” are starting becoming a fucking joke. 

The thing is that many people fail to realise that the primary target audience of a review is people who have found a girl’s profile through their own internet searches and are looking across the internet to find a review or reviews about the girl. Yes, while the review is on the top of the pile it might also be read by people who read reviews for the sake of possible hotlisting in their never-ending hotlist--- but this is a byproduct and not the main product of a review section. This becomes clearer when a review gets in the bottom of the pile or in the second page of the reviews section and it is only read by those who are genuinely interested and are searching to find a review for that particular girl. I have no problem updating a review buried in the pile and that is why I look forward to the new editing feature. You see I do not seek attention like some wankers. In PuntingWiki I created loads of pages and I am updating them silently in the background whenever something changes. Those who search for information will find it. I have zero interest in shoving information in the face of people who are not looking for it. But those who do look for it I am sure they don't want to read something outdated. 

[onedivergent]

Okay who else was text by Mel at 11am this morning - I don't have her number saved on my cell phone so looked it up.
I'm sure its a general text - "morning babe I'll work only Wednesday , Thursday and Friday this week in London bridge station, in case you would like to make a booking, give me a text pls. Hope see you soon,..... MEL"

I dont have an issue with being text about business and services as i think it's a good way to promo . what do others think ?? I have some of these casual workers own numbers who text silly stuff and small talks coz I'm friendly but this was a business text. For me if it let's guys knows avalibility then all kool.   

[lol]

Got the same text last night, clearly she likes me more  I also got a text when her prices were 200/hr that she was offering her old price for only one week (yes I ended up taking advantage of that 'limited time' offer ). I don't mind the texts per se but I do mind that I rarely have the willpower to resist responding..

[onedivergent]

Haha im sure she does as I've never seen her before. I contacted her when she was on increase saying I'd see her at her previous rates only.

[password02]

Haha im sure she does as I've never seen her before. I contacted her when she was on increase saying I'd see her at her previous rates only.

Also had a text this AM - Not sure if I like the idea of random texts coming in from WG

[anyfucker]

Also had a text this AM - Not sure if I like the idea of random texts coming in from WG

same here

[Quesadilla]

Also had a text this AM - Not sure if I like the idea of random texts coming in from WG

From someone so "hot and sexy" who "defines gorgeousoness" it smacks of "desperation". 

[rafatheira]

From someone so "hot and sexy" who "defines gorgeousoness" it smacks of "desperation". 

While having improving the 'personal' touch to her bookings with them not being as conveyor belt like as time progresses (big change between the two visits I've made), I think Mel doesn't grasp the whole don't text punters randomly...I use a punting phone, but for those who don't , this could have been an issue.
Won't stop me from going back though  , she's so ridiculously hot 

[west8]

Roll Up, Roll Up .. last chance to meet Mel before ....

BACK TO BRAZIL SOON!

Or not.

[SWLondon]

Okay who else was text by Mel at 11am this morning - I don't have her number saved on my cell phone so looked it up.
I'm sure its a general text - "morning babe I'll work only Wednesday , Thursday and Friday this week in London bridge station, in case you would like to make a booking, give me a text pls. Hope see you soon,..... MEL"

I dont have an issue with being text about business and services as i think it's a good way to promo . what do others think ?? I have some of these casual workers own numbers who text silly stuff and small talks coz I'm friendly but this was a business text. For me if it let's guys knows avalibility then all kool.   

I got a similar text a few weeks back when she arrived back in the UK, I didn't say anything here as there are certain members who feel as if it's a personal attack if I mention anything other than superlative about her. 

For what it's worth I've seen her twice.  Once for 15mins and once for 30mins.  I still stand by my original review, she's very attractive but service (with me) was average and I have shagged better girls for the money (Jade @HOD being one). Personally I'm a bit non-plus about her

[reload]

Was keen on seeing her but oucall is very expensive...