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I wait for that next and final slip up that sees you permanently banned. You are possibly the most objectionable asshole on this site.

You are likely to have a very long wait to see him banned. He is being careful not to break any rules.

Can members not see he is getting a kick out of winding you all up? Stop feeding him. Trolls (especially amateur ones), frequently hide behind the "It's a discussion forum and am just giving an opinion you don't agree with.." strategy.

He deliberately mentioned Nottingham to prod RK

The more you respond the more he will post,while grinning to himself from behind his keyboard. Continue to engage and there is no end game. Simple

EDIT I notice he has changed his avatar. Another attempt to draw you all in.

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Calling for other peoples bans is against the rules last time i checked. Just because you dont agree with things, you call for a ban. Its not trolling. Its a discussion and opinion. I travel around and noted this on nottingham like another user has also. Its our opinion.  You have yours.

You struggle with comprehension - perhaps why you believe every piece of bollocks on social media.  He did not call for your ban, he said he was waiting for you to slip up and being banned.

The other user expressing a view on Nottingham was someone with similar shit views as you who was trying to support your lying. 

I am proud of my city and country, not a traitorous piece like you.  I know Nottingham well and you are lying, plain and simple.

As I say sooner you take yourself off to whichever country you prefer the better - will be a net gain for the UK.

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He deliberately mentioned Nottingham to prod RK



I am sure you are right but for me it just adds to the now considerable bank of evidence that he is making everything up.  Well that and he is stupid enough to believe posts on social media.


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I am sure you are right but for me it just adds to the now considerable bank of evidence that he is making everything up.  Well that and he is stupid enough to believe posts on social media.

Possibly, but does it really matter? What are you hoping to achieve by engaging with him further?  It's a dead end :hi:

Offline TallnHung

Its not our country anymore thats the thing. Its been invaded by somalians and cancer. Using your anology you should fight already against somalians and cancer here.

A lot of people would not fight for britian. We are banned from putting flags up, even for football. So why should we fight for the flag.
Britian dont need to get involved in scamkraine tbh. Let russia and urkraine sort.

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo

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Please forgive me if I've misread the tone of your post. Maybe English isn't his first language, or maybe he's not great at grammar. But your post sounds as though you may be sneering at him, which would be unpleasant.

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I'm not tempted to call an early election, Andy Burnham says

Andy Burnham has insisted he is not tempted to call an early general election, arguing it would throw "the country into a backward-looking process".

Offline Punting2022

Please forgive me if I've misread the tone of your post. Maybe English isn't his first language, or maybe he's not great at grammar. But your post sounds as though you may be sneering at him, which would be unpleasant.

Ive mentioned before here, grammer is not important on a forum that mainly reviews escorts. People like him want it to be a exam paper and have it perfect. Maybe he should join ukgrammer.com

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I'm not tempted to call an early election, Andy Burnham says

Andy Burnham has insisted he is not tempted to call an early general election, arguing it would throw "the country into a backward-looking process".

Scared he will loose seats

Offline TallnHung

Please forgive me if I've misread the tone of your post. Maybe English isn't his first language, or maybe he's not great at grammar. But your post sounds as though you may be sneering at him, which would be unpleasant.

Nope. 
Unpleasant is the flow of his posts here. 
Have a read back and show me where he has been anything but unpleasant.
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Ive mentioned before here, grammer is not important on a forum that mainly reviews escorts. People like him want it to be a exam paper and have it perfect. Maybe he should join ukgrammer.com

Surely you care about the country's god given language like so many of your other idiot cult?

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Surely you care about the country's god given language like so many of your other idiot cult?

Thats Urdu now tbh in Islamic state of Englandstan

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Surely you care about the country's god given language like so many of your other idiot cult?

Most people in court do tbh regardless of who they are. Staying away from FAM etc till the next case.

Offline Punting2022

Nope. 
Unpleasant is the flow of his posts here. 
Have a read back and show me where he has been anything but unpleasant.

Politics is like that. Different views and agendas. That's why it generates debates.

Offline Frostingthebowl

Nope. 
Unpleasant is the flow of his posts here. 
Have a read back and show me where he has been anything but unpleasant.

Politics is unpleasant.

I find it unpleasant that some people want to flood the country with illegals purely out of spite and virtue,with people that need pamphlets to teach them how to be civilised .

I find it unpleasant that anybody that disagrees with the mass invasion and cultural shift is labelled a fascist.

I find it unpleasant that the working class that are having their home towns transform with mass invasions of people with different cultures and beliefs are labelled "gammons".

Offline Frostingthebowl

Ive mentioned before here, grammer is not important on a forum that mainly reviews escorts. People like him want it to be a exam paper and have it perfect. Maybe he should join ukgrammer.com

Its an attempt to discredit your argument and present themselves as being intellectually superior.

These kinds of people are known as midwits.

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Ive mentioned before here, grammer is not important on a forum that mainly reviews escorts. People like him want it to be a exam paper and have it perfect. Maybe he should join ukgrammer.com

Correct. Grammer is not important.
However. Grammar is.

Just saying :hi:

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Maybe English isn't his first language, or maybe he's not great at grammar.

Are you getting forgetful Charlie  ;)

Maybe it was a typo, maybe English isn't his first language, maybe his grammar isn't great.

I do know English. It is my first language.


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Politics is unpleasant.


Politics is contentious, it divides. People may be passionate about it, manipulated by it etc. The discussion however can be civil. It need not be unpleasant.

It also attracts trolls.

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Its an attempt to discredit your argument and present themselves as being intellectually superior.

These kinds of people are known as midwits.

Talking of trolls?

You are also clearly unaware of his history on this forum. It is not about his politics. He has history of being obnoxious generally especially in relation to women and other members.

He has been banned on a number of occasions but not because of his political views.


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Talking of trolls?

You are also clearly unaware of his history on this forum. It is not about his politics. He has history of being obnoxious generally especially in relation to women and other members.

He has been banned on a number of occasions but not because of his political views.

Well if thats the case him being banned previously for reasons outside of his political takes is irrelevant then on this thread then?
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Politics is contentious, it divides. People may be passionate about it, manipulated by it etc. The discussion however can be civil. It need not be unpleasant.

It also attracts trolls.

It can be civil, but isnt more often than not. Especially on the internet.

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Well if thats the case him being banned previously for reasons outside of his political takes is irrelevant then on this thread then?

No it is highly relevant. Many people here agree with some of his political views on migration. This includes myself. It is the manner in which he presents them and his motive for doing so that is the problem.

He is an obnoxious troll and that is behind why he has been previously banned  :hi:

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It can be civil, but isnt more often than not. Especially on the internet.

Agreed, but this is not a political forum. It is a punting forum which allows discussion of politics in this one thread. In previous years doing so caused negative effects on the entire forum and consequently off topic and politics especially was banned/removed.

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Agreed, but this is not a political forum. It is a punting forum which allows discussion of politics in this one thread. In previous years doing so caused negative effects on the entire forum and consequently off topic and politics especially was banned/removed.

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I don't get who his banned personas were on here?

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I find it unpleasant that some people want to flood the country with illegals purely out of spite and virtue,with people that need pamphlets to teach them how to be civilised .


I find it unpleasant that because I do not agree with the thuggish approach to migration and do not label every migrant as the same that I am labelled as in favour of uncontrolled migration and hold my views out of spite.

Perhaps you need to think about your own behaviour?

Part of the problem is that people are believing everything on social media and that is convincing them of what the "other side" believe and pushing them to a radical position.  Perhaps try and listen to people with opposing views and see if you can think for yourself and reach a compromise.


As a starter if your being labelled a fascist dig was aimed at me perhaps re read what I said with an open mind, I was not saying every anti illegal migration person is a fascist, I was saying that some people (leadership if you like) are using migration as a tool in a similar way that the fascists used minorities in the 1930s.  (I am anti illegal migration so on your logic I was calling myself a fascist.)

Offline Frostingthebowl

I find it unpleasant that because I do not agree with the thuggish approach to migration and do not label every migrant as the same that I am labelled as in favour of uncontrolled migration and hold my views out of spite.

Perhaps you need to think about your own behaviour?

Part of the problem is that people are believing everything on social media and that is convincing them of what the "other side" believe and pushing them to a radical position.  Perhaps try and listen to people with opposing views and see if you can think for yourself and reach a compromise.


As a starter if your being labelled a fascist dig was aimed at me perhaps re read what I said with an open mind, I was not saying every anti illegal migration person is a fascist, I was saying that some people (leadership if you like) are using migration as a tool in a similar way that the fascists used minorities in the 1930s.  (I am anti illegal migration so on your logic I was calling myself a fascist.)

Who says i dont come up with my own opinions?

This whole rethoric of "youre just brainwashed by social media and dont have an open mind" is condecending, preachy and part of the unpleasant discourse that inhabits political discussion.

"You dont think like me, therefore you are brainwashed and need to be lectured by your intellectual superiors"

This type of thinking just drives divide further.


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I don't get who his banned personas were on here?

He received temporary bans. The last was for an extended period.

Offline Frostingthebowl

Agreed, but this is not a political forum. It is a punting forum which allows discussion of politics in this one thread. In previous years doing so caused negative effects on the entire forum and consequently off topic and politics especially was banned/removed.

Its an internet forum first and foremost. Dont forget that. And a form of social media. Discourse will always end up being the same.
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Its an internet forum first and foremost. Dont forget that. And a form of social media. Discourse will always end up being the same.

So you are saying it's inevitable and therefore acceptable that we be obnoxious to each other?

Incidentally my first involvement with punting forums predates Facebook etc. Troublemakers/trolls existed then too. They are nothing new, just increased in number. It is about people hiding behind anonymity and fake personas. Keyboard warriors etc. Frequently the real person is nothing like the one being obnoxious and would never behave that way in person.

UKP is a punting forum first and foremost. Off topic was only brought back due to Covid but with no politics allowed. This was later allowed. Once again you need to understand the history. It was once a 'wild west'.






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So you are saying it's inevitable and therefore acceptable that we be obnoxious to each other?

Incidentally my first involvement with punting forums predates Facebook etc. Troublemakers/trolls existed then too. They are nothing new, just increased in number. It is about people hiding behind anonymity and fake personas. Keyboard warriors etc. Frequently the real person is nothing like the one being obnoxious and would never behave that way in person.

UKP is a punting forum first and foremost. Off topic was only brought back due to Covid but with no politics allowed. This was later allowed. Once again you need to understand the history. It was once a 'wild west'.

Im saying its inevitable yes.

Bring up politics in a gardening forum and it will devolve into the same thing.

If you dont like it there are two solutions:

Ban politics from the forum

Heavily moderate the thread

Again, its an internet forum and social media platform first and foremost.
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Im saying its inevitable yes.

Bring up politics in a gardening forum and it will devolve into the same thing.

If you dont like it there are two solutions:

Ban politics from the forum

Heavily moderate the thread

Again, its an internet forum and social media platform first and foremost.

OK you win  :hi:

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It can be civil, but isnt more often than not. Especially on the internet.

It seems to depend on the attitude of certain individuals.
It does seem inevitable that a small number of posters with biased and entrenched views will try to  browbeat everyone with their opinions, often in aggressive tones and including unnecessary person insults.
Alternative opinions are ignored and slanging games resembling marathon tennis matches ensue.

Unfortunately I think that just discourages others who may want to engage in reasonable debate.

I don't know what the answers are.

Maybe just ban all the ignorant tossers who disagree with me.  :rolleyes:

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It seems to depend on the attitude of certain individuals.
It does seem inevitable that a small number of posters with biased and entrenched views will try to  browbeat everyone with their opinions, often in aggressive tones and including unnecessary person insults.
Alternative opinions are ignored and slanging games resembling marathon tennis matches ensue.

Unfortunately I think that just discourages others who may want to engage in reasonable debate.

I don't know what the answers are.

Maybe just ban all the ignorant tossers who disagree with me.  :rolleyes:

All valid points, apart from the last bit  :D  .... but for me this is about Punting 2022's persona generally, rather than his politics. To say members are attacking him purely because they don't share his views is just not accurate. For example Webby has very strong views on immigration in line with some of P2022 and yet he posted this in another non political thread (in his own inimitable style  :D)

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=464855.msg4531981#msg4531981

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It seems to depend on the attitude of certain individuals.
It does seem inevitable that a small number of posters with biased and entrenched views will try to  browbeat everyone with their opinions, often in aggressive tones and including unnecessary person insults.
Alternative opinions are ignored and slanging games resembling marathon tennis matches ensue.

Unfortunately I think that just discourages others who may want to engage in reasonable debate.

I don't know what the answers are.

Maybe just ban all the ignorant tossers who disagree with me.  :rolleyes:

Its all pretty common on the internet.

On any forum or platform like this you have a variety of people, opinions and attitudes. Talk politics on any social media platform and it always devolves into what you mentioned.

The internet is basically the world in your hand, and as such, you experience every kind of person, generally unfiltered.
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He received temporary bans. The last was for an extended period.

One was a mistake. I didnt realise you cant ask for a dm.
Latest one id say was out of context. Someone thought i was inciting violance. I simply commented on someone getting robbed .
I review as the requirements when seeing ladies. Here politics is discussed.

We all know the issue in uk and world on political matters. I have said on this thread. Some people have not. But thats the way these things go.
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We all know the issue in uk and world on political matters. I have said on this thread. Some people have not.
No we don't.
We have opinions.
You think the main issue is Islam.
I think the main issue is the West's inability to deal with the multipolar world and reverting to war as usual.

Offline pbrown355

No we don't.
We have opinions.
You think the main issue is Islam.
I think the main issue is the West's inability to deal with the multipolar world and reverting to war as usual.
Only the West. I don't think the West has a monopoly on such an inability.

Offline Jerboa

No we don't.
We have opinions.
You think the main issue is Islam.
I think the main issue is the West's inability to deal with the multipolar world and reverting to war as usual.

And I think it's both.

Offline Punting2022

Horrific attack prevented on the people protecting us.

We all know the suspects. Seen the pictures and looks like cancer.

What chance do the army have when labour has caused this. Everyone of them can revolt against the army and cause issues

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And I think it's both.
There we go.
Three opinions already.
All different.
So not facts.

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Horrific attack prevented on the people protecting us.

We all know the suspects. Seen the pictures and looks like cancer.

What chance do the army have when labour has caused this. Everyone of them can revolt against the army and cause issues

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Why Labour?  Numbers down under Labour, thought you would be celebrating that, unless you have another agenda??!!

Offline Massagemanmr

No we don't.
We have opinions.
You think the main issue is Islam.
I think the main issue is the West's inability to deal with the multipolar world and reverting to war as usual.
this punting 2002 guy is totally radicalised  , just look at his posts

He genuinely believes some of the stuff that he posts but he's so far gone he can't even lie properly
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Offline Charliehutton

Apparently Kemi Badenoch's big idea to slash the welfare bill is to stop claimants from being able to spend their benefits on alcohol or tobacco.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? This is the Conservative Party - the Conservative Party - advocating that the state dictates what people can spend their money on. The fucking State!

They're not all spongers. I'd estimate that around two thirds of benefit claimants are actually genuine. And if a single mother trying to raise three young children on her own feels the need for an occasional bottle of wine or twenty Benson & Hedges to see her through the week, who could blame her?

Offline bigden40

Why Labour?  Numbers down under Labour, thought you would be celebrating that, unless you have another agenda??!!

Not rising as quickly is not the same as down  :hi:

Offline DastardlyDick

Apparently Kemi Badenoch's big idea to slash the welfare bill is to stop claimants from being able to spend their benefits on alcohol or tobacco.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? This is the Conservative Party - the Conservative Party - advocating that the state dictates what people can spend their money on. The fucking State!

They're not all spongers. I'd estimate that around two thirds of benefit claimants are actually genuine. And if a single mother trying to raise three young children on her own feels the need for an occasional bottle of wine or twenty Benson & Hedges to see her through the week, who could blame her?
About 40% of Universal Credit claimants are either in work, but on low pay and receive 'top up'' payments or disabled/long term sick.
I'm not sure how Badenoch is going to restrict what people can buy. The only way I can see would be to give everyone a State Controlled Bank Account with a payment card that shop tills can't accept for booze and cigs - that would cost Millions to set up and run, probably more than any saving in benefit costs.

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Kemi Badenoch spending time with Rupert Murdoch of all people.

These people do not care about anyone but themselves

Offline Blackpool Rock

Why Labour?  Numbers down under Labour, thought you would be celebrating that, unless you have another agenda??!!
I almost posted the same as you but managed to get over his bridge without getting sucked in  :rolleyes: