The Politics Thread

[DastardlyDick]

Voluntary work sems good. Earn their keep. Maybe clean the roads theier sort make a mess. So much litter around and its always their sort in their areas. Voluntary litter picking where a British born supervises and gets paid. Creates more jobs.

The potential issue with voluntary work is that a lot of it is public facing so a DBS check would be needed, which they might find near on impossible to get.

[DastardlyDick]

They dont have to do anything dastardly with a destroyer. The border patrol boats seen here would do fine.

You can see the new arrivals at Dover on this channel most days.

She usually gets a better view than today.

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That's not a Navy Vessel - it's Border Force and their ships are differently designed with space to put people, navy ships are not.
We have River Class off shore patrol ships currently deployed on Fishery Protection, except HMS Clyde which is in the Falklands as a "guard ship". They still displace 2000 tonnes and have a high freeboard to try and haul people up. They cost £10m each
We also have Archer Class patrol vessels, mostly used for training or escorting our Submarines in and out of Faslane - they have space for 6 people in addition to the crew of 5.
RN Ships are just not designed for rescue work, so they won't be doing it.

[Punting2022]

The potential issue with voluntary work is that a lot of it is public facing so a DBS check would be needed, which they might find near on impossible to get.

Yes and 99 percent of these immigrants are rapist and peados. Just lock them up then or deport

[DastardlyDick]

No one has an issue with people who work. Its the ones in hotels freeloading of benefits etc.

The home office have handed out handbooks to these illigall alien men advising how to not rape a woman. How to not be a peado.
So the Homeoffice knows these men from islamic countries as immigrants are rapist and peados. Yet still let them roam around the streets. Should be detention centres.

The booklets will be telling them what British cultural and legal norms are - many Countries in that region have an age of consent far lower than ours, Nigeria sets it at 11 Angola and the Philippines. If you want somewhere closer to home the Age of Consent in Italy is 13. Even the good ol US of A has it as low as 13 in some States.

[Squire Haggard]

That's not a Navy Vessel - it's Border Force and their ships are differently designed with space to put people, navy ships are not.
We have River Class off shore patrol ships currently deployed on Fishery Protection, except HMS Clyde which is in the Falklands as a "guard ship". They still displace 2000 tonnes and have a high freeboard to try and haul people up. They cost £10m each
We also have Archer Class patrol vessels, mostly used for training or escorting our Submarines in and out of Faslane - they have space for 6 people in addition to the crew of 5.
RN Ships are just not designed for rescue work, so they won't be doing it.

I never said that it was a Navy vessel. I mentioned it because its a similar one to the Greek coast guard one in the video that I posted. 

[Jerboa]

That's not a Navy Vessel - it's Border Force and their ships are differently designed with space to put people, navy ships are not.
We have River Class off shore patrol ships currently deployed on Fishery Protection, except HMS Clyde which is in the Falklands as a "guard ship". They still displace 2000 tonnes and have a high freeboard to try and haul people up. They cost £10m each
We also have Archer Class patrol vessels, mostly used for training or escorting our Submarines in and out of Faslane - they have space for 6 people in addition to the crew of 5.
RN Ships are just not designed for rescue work, so they won't be doing it.

Do you not think the navy can not use suitable vessels for the job? the Royal Marines have amphibious craft that might be suitable, in the military there is a saying "Improvise, adapt, and overcome."

[Followyourdick]

Yes and 99 percent of these immigrants are rapist and peados. Just lock them up then or deport

And your evidence of this 99% is from what please?

[mh]

Yes and 99 percent of these immigrants are rapist and peados. Just lock them up then or deport

If you believe that to be true then I would say you need a serious amount of mental health support.

[Doc Holliday]

I would say you need a serious amount of mental health support.

I think that was first established way back in 2022 when he began posting. He is just taunting everyone.

If people just ignore him he will hopefully post only on punting topics. Being banned multiple times appears to have no effect on him? Keep reacting and he will keep baiting. Simple really 

[Doc Holliday]

The booklets will be telling them what British cultural and legal norms are - many Countries in that region have an age of consent far lower than ours, Nigeria sets it at 11 Angola and the Philippines. If you want somewhere closer to home the Age of Consent in Italy is 13. Even the good ol US of A has it as low as 13 in some States.

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[Punting2022]

If you believe that to be true then I would say you need a serious amount of mental health support.

Not really. I'm perfectly fine and enjoying life tbh. The theme here seems to be if someone dont agree with a view here. Then they need mental health support, or they are obsessed. We are simply having a discussion on politics and views here.  Its well known that rape and crime has gone up since the illegal immigration has and they are allowed to rome free the streets. Simple matter is they should be in detention centres or sent back. . We are having a political discussion on this topic. UK is a different place now compared to a few years ago. Since all these invasions of aliens. I do not plan to live here as long, i can see the country i grew up in and loved has fallen.

Its not the people to blame, its politics and politicians. We as the public had ideas in this chat.

[Punting2022]

I think that was first established way back in 2022 when he began posting. He is just taunting everyone.

If people just ignore him he will hopefully post only on punting topics. Being banned multiple times appears to have no effect on him? Keep reacting and he will keep baiting. Simple really 

Im not baiting, This thread allows discussion on political matters. Politics is a sensitive subsect and can generate different views. Not everyone likes the same political viewpoint. I do my reviews when I meet ladies.
Does seem a theme that people are called out for mental health or have issues if something is said not all agree on. One ban was because I forgot what thread I can post political on. I now chat here about that.
The latest one was really someone took things the wrong way saying i was inciting violence. It was not,

[TallnHung]

No one has an issue with people who work. Its the ones in hotels freeloading of benefits etc.

The home office have handed out handbooks to these illigall alien men advising how to not rape a woman. How to not be a peado.
So the Homeoffice knows these men from islamic countries as immigrants are rapist and peados. Yet still let them roam around the streets. Should be detention centres.

Apart from I suspect you.
You give carte-blance get rid of them statements and all a drain on resources then later when challenged say I dont mind the workers.  A typical case of Schrodingers Immigrant!

I'll ask the usual question.  How did a Syrian fighting age male doctor who operated on my mum 3 months ago in the NHS take your job? (which is the usual argument, here they cone taking our jobs and women).  Or even the Lybian female nurse who looked after her, or the male fighting age Somali porter who helped her out when she was released to go home?

Illegal immigration is estimated to cost £4Bn, or 0.3% total spending.  If you want to bring down that bill maybe look at the £800m profits the businesses hosuing them made last year, thats your money being spnt to prop up hotels, HMOs and other housing systems that have been built over time just to drain the government of tax payers money!  I reckon they can fix immigration too, but I also see 50% drops in crossings this year - cant say shit weather as a reason either as its been glorious -  so it feels like that is working.  I'd like to see more done but half in last couple years feels like a start to me!

It's not taxing the massive coroporations, the billionaires and all the other tax dodgers thats part of the problem.  Whilst governments get poorer, the poor get into poverty, the middle classes get squeezed and somehow we have the 1st global Billionaire and more Millionaires than ever.  Unless youre one of them you're a victim of that as much as the rest of us. 
Herr Shitler's PIP plan will apparently save circa £50BN allegedly but no one can see inside Reforms working to prove it and 2% on those above £10M will generate up to £90Bn!  Personally I'd do both and see where we are.

[Followyourdick]

Im not baiting, This thread allows discussion on political matters. Politics is a sensitive subsect and can generate different views. Not everyone likes the same political viewpoint. I do my reviews when I meet ladies.
Does seem a theme that people are called out for mental health or have issues if something is said not all agree on. One ban was because I forgot what thread I can post political on. I now chat here about that.
The latest one was really someone took things the wrong way saying i was inciting violence. It was not,

But where is your evidence that 99% are rapists and peados please?

[Doc Holliday]

Im not baiting, This thread allows discussion on political matters. Politics is a sensitive subsect and can generate different views. Not everyone likes the same political viewpoint.

You are perfectly entitled to express your political views, but largely you don't. You mostly post factually, which frequently includes ridiculous statements. When asked for evidence you ignore and move on to another ludicrous factual offering.

You are IMO a troll. Clearly members will continue to take the bait so good luck to you.

If I was a betting man you will at some point be banned again ... but likely allowed back once more and so the cycle continues.

So prove me wrong and provide evidence for the 99% claim

[Followyourdick]

You are perfectly entitled to express your political views, but largely you don't. You mostly post factually, which frequently includes ridiculous statements. When asked for evidence you ignore and move on to another ludicrous factual offering.

You are IMO a troll. Clearly members will continue to take the bait so good luck to you.

If I was a betting man you will at some point be banned again ... but likely allowed back once more and so the cycle continues.

So prove me wrong and provide evidence for the 99% claim

We both know he won't, because he can't.

[bigden40]

325,000 NHS employees aren't British citizens. That's 21% of the workforce.

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Yes it is. I’m not arguing against importing people to fill skill shortages.

[WARSZAWA16]

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[whiskyfan]

I think that was first established way back in 2022 when he began posting. He is just taunting everyone.

If people just ignore him he will hopefully post only on punting topics. Being banned multiple times appears to have no effect on him? Keep reacting and he will keep baiting. Simple really 

Same goes for Jerboa. All he does is troll and tout Tommy.

[Punting2022]

We both know he won't, because he can't.

I will compile some stats soon. But its also common sense. Ever since we have an increase of aliens. Crime is up. Rape is up.

Also why would the homeoffice feel it nessasary to make booklets if it wasnt an issue.

Where these immigrants come from, child sex and rape is common for thier culture.
I will shortly provide some website research.

[Punting2022]

Same goes for Jerboa. All he does is troll and tout Tommy.

Tommy is a legend. Bit because people dont like him. They call people who do trolls

[Followyourdick]

I will compile some stats soon. But its also common sense. Ever since we have an increase of aliens. Crime is up. Rape is up.

Also why would the homeoffice feel it nessasary to make booklets if it wasnt an issue.

Where these immigrants come from, child sex and rape is common for thier culture.
I will shortly provide some website research.

Can’t wait.

[Charliehutton]

An academic at the University of Ghent - for any members who support Reform, that's in Belgium - has been suspended for accusing the late Cambridge professor Jason Arday of plagiarism.

He's a tragic figure, a victim of our times, but to be vilified for telling the truth seems very Orwellian.

[Adoniron]

An academic at the University of Ghent - for any members who support Reform, that's in Belgium - has been suspended for accusing the late Cambridge professor Jason Arday of plagiarism.

He's a tragic figure, a victim of our times, but to be vilified for telling the truth seems very Orwellian.

He was right to expose plagiarism but he hasn't covered himself in glory since Arday's death, displaying no empathy at all.

He also believes that if it was down to merit, black people would only rise to the top in sports and entertainment.

You would think that as a Jew, he would recognise the danger of such views and where they can lead.

[DastardlyDick]

Do you not think the navy can not use suitable vessels for the job? the Royal Marines have amphibious craft that might be suitable, in the military there is a saying "Improvise, adapt, and overcome."

The Marines have RIBs and Landing Craft - the RIBs are no bigger than the dinghy's migrants use. The Landing Craft are flat bottomed - they're fine a short distance off shore, but totally unsuitable for the Open Sea. Then there's the minor detail that the French won't allow any RN Ship into their Territorial Waters which start 12 miles from their coast, and have the means to stop them.
Messrs Farage and Youef can act big and brave, but it's not going to happen.

[Thephoenix]

One of the issues which seems to have been forgotten in our recent debate about illegal immigrants is that we really have little or no idea who these people are.

In 2022 Migration Watch UK published figures from the Home Office which indicated that 98% of those (mainly young men) landing illegally on our shores have no identification.
Who are they?
Where are they from?
How old are they?
Do they have any criminal background?
What's their educational and socio - economic background?
Are they telling the truth? If so why have they nearly all disposed of or destroyed any ID they may have had?
I could go on.

[Punting2022]

Can’t wait.

Ministry of Justice Figures: Reports drawing from the Police National Computer indicate that foreign nationals represent a notable percentage of overall sexual offense convictions, mirroring general population growth driven by immigration.Specific Nationalities: Freedom of Information data published by media outlets have broken down convictions by specific countries of origin, identifying statistical variations across different demographic groups.Analytical Nuance: Experts emphasize that raw conviction or charge numbers can be skewed by shifts in population denominators, varying sizes of specific migrant communities, and changes in police prosecution rates over time.Government and Public ResponseBehavioral Guidance: The Home Office introduced integration and behavioral literature for arriving asylum seekers—explicitly outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, harassment, and definitions of rape—to clarify legal standards and expectations.Debate on Public Safety: High-profile cases and data transparency reports have fueled intense political debate regarding background vetting, asylum hotel utilization, and the deportation frameworks governing foreign national offenders

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[Punting2022]

Ministry of Justice data shows that sexual offense convictions for foreign nationals in the UK rose by 62% over a four-year period, outpacing the 39.3% increase for British nationals. Foreign nationals accounted for about 14.1% of all sexual offense convictions, prompting intense political debate and new BBC News reporting on government measures.Context and Statistical DebateConviction Data: Figures drawn from the Police National Computer indicate that foreign nationals represent roughly one in seven sexual offense convictions, which includes rape.Per Capita Rates: Political figures have argued that specific migrant groups (such as Afghan nationals) have a significantly higher statistical likelihood of conviction relative to their share of the general population.Data Caveats: Statisticians and migration observers note that raw per capita comparisons can be misleading. Adjustments are rarely fully weighted for demographic variables like age and gender skew (such as a higher proportion of young adult males in specific migrant cohorts), or rapid population fluctuations that make accurate per-capita baselines difficult to calculate.Government and Public ResponseHome Office Guidance: In response to high-profile cases and legal arguments regarding differing cultural norms, the Home Office introduced explicit advisory booklets for arriving asylum seekers detailing UK laws on consent, harassment, and what constitutes rape.Deportation Focus: The government highlights an increase in the removal of foreign national offenders, reporting that thousands of foreign criminals—including those convicted of violent and sexual offenses—have been deported.Advocacy Concerns: Organizations supporting victims of sexual violence emphasize that the vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults in the UK are committed by individuals known to the victim, cautioning against generalizing crime data to stoke anti-migrant sentiment.

n 2024 between 40$ and 47% of those charged for sexual offences were foreign nationals - despite them accounting for just a quarter of the capital's population.

Googling brings up similar. Rape has increased since the invasion has.
In somali and pakistani muslim culture. Its accepted that a woman doesn't have to say yes and they allow child marriages. They bring those values to the UK. hENCE THE INCREASE.
These men are freely roaming. Also the government know its an issue hence the leaflets.

Lets not forget the grooming gang, the whole of britian knows it was Muslim gangs and immigrants etc. Police kept quiet to avoid backlash and because they were scared of being classed racist. Tommy robinson tried to expose and got called out for being racist.

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[Followyourdick]

Ministry of Justice Figures: Reports drawing from the Police National Computer indicate that foreign nationals represent a notable percentage of overall sexual offense convictions, mirroring general population growth driven by immigration.Specific Nationalities: Freedom of Information data published by media outlets have broken down convictions by specific countries of origin, identifying statistical variations across different demographic groups.Analytical Nuance: Experts emphasize that raw conviction or charge numbers can be skewed by shifts in population denominators, varying sizes of specific migrant communities, and changes in police prosecution rates over time.Government and Public ResponseBehavioral Guidance: The Home Office introduced integration and behavioral literature for arriving asylum seekers—explicitly outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, harassment, and definitions of rape—to clarify legal standards and expectations.Debate on Public Safety: High-profile cases and data transparency reports have fueled intense political debate regarding background vetting, asylum hotel utilization, and the deportation frameworks governing foreign national offenders

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Fab.

I am reminded very much of the orange shitgibbon and Farridge etc, any kind of scrutiny is most unwelcome, answers there are none and the next thing is all the toys are thrown out of the pram.

[Blackpool Rock]

Ministry of Justice data shows that sexual offense convictions for foreign nationals in the UK rose by 62% over a four-year period, outpacing the 39.3% increase for British nationals. Foreign nationals accounted for about 14.1% of all sexual offense convictions, prompting intense political debate and new BBC News reporting on government measures.Context and Statistical DebateConviction Data: Figures drawn from the Police National Computer indicate that foreign nationals represent roughly one in seven sexual offense convictions, which includes rape.Per Capita Rates: Political figures have argued that specific migrant groups (such as Afghan nationals) have a significantly higher statistical likelihood of conviction relative to their share of the general population.Data Caveats: Statisticians and migration observers note that raw per capita comparisons can be misleading. Adjustments are rarely fully weighted for demographic variables like age and gender skew (such as a higher proportion of young adult males in specific migrant cohorts), or rapid population fluctuations that make accurate per-capita baselines difficult to calculate.Government and Public ResponseHome Office Guidance: In response to high-profile cases and legal arguments regarding differing cultural norms, the Home Office introduced explicit advisory booklets for arriving asylum seekers detailing UK laws on consent, harassment, and what constitutes rape.Deportation Focus: The government highlights an increase in the removal of foreign national offenders, reporting that thousands of foreign criminals—including those convicted of violent and sexual offenses—have been deported.Advocacy Concerns: Organizations supporting victims of sexual violence emphasize that the vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults in the UK are committed by individuals known to the victim, cautioning against generalizing crime data to stoke anti-migrant sentiment.

n 2024 between 40$ and 47% of those charged for sexual offences were foreign nationals - despite them accounting for just a quarter of the capital's population.

Googling brings up similar. Rape has increased since the invasion has.
In somali and pakistani muslim culture. Its accepted that a woman doesn't have to say yes and they allow child marriages. They bring those values to the UK. hENCE THE INCREASE.
These men are freely roaming. Also the government know its an issue hence the leaflets.

Lets not forget the grooming gang, the whole of britian knows it was Muslim gangs and immigrants etc. Police kept quiet to avoid backlash and because they were scared of being classed racist. Tommy robinson tried to expose and got called out for being racist.

Thanks for the info which you said you'd post, it's a bit of a hard read due to the lack of spacing etc and i'm assuming it's some sort of AI overview but anyway i'll take it as being factually correct however it doesn't change my mind / opinion as it basically just tells me what i already knew / thought.

I'll accept that proportionately immigrants / illegal immigrants / asylum seekers are statistically more likely to commit certain sexual crimes such as rape etc (and when I say accept I don't mean that it's acceptable) however as your data now suggests it's clearly not 99% of them who are rapists and Paedos is it 

And this is the main issue that results in your posts / arguments getting push back, i'm sure that the vast majority of right minded people who actually accept and agree with your posts if you were to post that rapes etc have increased and that statistically immigrants are more likely to commit these crimes, however you don't post reasonable and rational data / facts but resort to the Farage style hyperbole which is why I and others switch off and dismiss what you're saying

Perhaps tone it down and your message will resonate 

On things like grooming gangs IMO the vast majority of people with a hole in their Arse agree with you that the police / authorities looked the other way and turned a blind eye for fear of being accused of racism   

[Followyourdick]

Thanks for the info which you said you'd post, it's a bit of a hard read due to the lack of spacing etc and i'm assuming it's some sort of AI overview but anyway i'll take it as being factually correct however it doesn't change my mind / opinion as it basically just tells me what i already knew / thought.

I'll accept that proportionately immigrants / illegal immigrants / asylum seekers are statistically more likely to commit certain sexual crimes such as rape etc (and when I say accept I don't mean that it's acceptable) however as your data now suggests it's clearly not 99% of them who are rapists and Paedos is it 

And this is the main issue that results in your posts / arguments getting push back, i'm sure that the vast majority of right minded people who actually accept and agree with your posts if you were to post that rapes etc have increased and that statistically immigrants are more likely to commit these crimes, however you don't post reasonable and rational data / facts but resort to the Farage style hyperbole which is why I and others switch off and dismiss what you're saying

Perhaps tone it down and your message will resonate 

On things like grooming gangs IMO the vast majority of people with a hole in their Arse agree with you that the police / authorities looked the other way and turned a blind eye for fear of being accused of racism

Agree with most of this but just couldn’t be arsed typing to that length!

[Blackpool Rock]

I posted this on the Finance thread -

US National debt passes $40 Trillion (apparently most countries use the scale where that's 12 0's so a Million x Million) and has doubled in a decade, 50 years ago back in 1981 it stood at only $1 Tn and at the time that was heralded as a "Wake up call" but they now spend more than that on the debt interest with the interest being about 20% of tax revenue which is larger than their (massive) defence spend

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Inflation and interest rates aren't helping as it now costs more just to pay back the interest on the deficit and disruption like the 2008 financial crash are being talked about

Well that's the financial position / facts but I think i'll post "Comment" on the Politics thread

So this looks like a bit of a shit show, WTF happened to all those DOGE cuts / reforms which were made to save all that money 
I think we all know what which is why Musk got pissed off and fell out with Trump in that as soon as cuts were made he then gave the savings back to his already rich pals in tax cuts etc for the already super rich 

[Doc Holliday]

Thanks for the info which you said you'd post, it's a bit of a hard read due to the lack of spacing etc and i'm assuming it's some sort of AI overview but anyway i'll take it as being factually correct however it doesn't change my mind / opinion as it basically just tells me what i already knew / thought.

I'll accept that proportionately immigrants / illegal immigrants / asylum seekers are statistically more likely to commit certain sexual crimes such as rape etc (and when I say accept I don't mean that it's acceptable) however as your data now suggests it's clearly not 99% of them who are rapists and Paedos is it 

I am quite shocked BR that you accept his posts as factual. Did you look at the data he posted in the Dorset Police link? He clearly didn't as it contradicts his claims.

He also remarkably included this statement (presumably by accident)

Organizations supporting victims of sexual violence emphasize that the vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults in the UK are committed by individuals known to the victim, cautioning against generalizing crime data to stoke anti-migrant sentiment.

My favourite word is 'complex' and the recording of crime certainly falls into this category.

Perception does not always match reality.

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[Blackpool Rock]

I am quite shocked BR that you accept his posts as factual. Did you look at the data he posted in the Dorset Police link? He clearly didn't as it contradicts his claims.

He also remarkably included this statement (presumably by accident)

My favourite word is 'complex' and the recording of crime certainly falls into this category.

Perception does not always match reality.

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I accepted his reply of "facts" that he said he'd post purely at face value as I couldn't be bothered spending the time to corroborate or dismiss the data searching on the internet so I agree they may well not be correct / factual however it was a much quicker way for me to point out that even his "factual" data was largely at odds with his previous hyperbole of 99% and to then point out that these 99% claims don't do his argument any favours as people just skip past the point he's trying to make

I also didn't bother reading any of the links

[Punting2022]

The home office are never going to post proper data. They love these aliens and don't want to cause backlash.
But its common sense. Look at the UK in the last 10 years and the changes. Also look how that crime is increased. We all know why. Just some wont say.

I will be voting Reform or reform soon.
Europe and UK need change. We need a trump type leader tbh

[scutty brown]

The home office are never going to post proper data. They love these aliens and don't want to cause backlash.
But its common sense. Look at the UK in the last 10 years and the changes. Also look how that crime is increased. We all know why. Just some wont say.

I will be voting Reform or reform soon.
Europe and UK need change. We need a trump type leader tbh

I hear that they're thinking of changing their name again, this time to "Refuse"

[Doc Holliday]

I accepted his reply of "facts" that he said he'd post purely at face value as I couldn't be bothered spending the time to corroborate or dismiss the data searching on the internet so I agree they may well not be correct / factual however it was a much quicker way for me to point out that even his "factual" data was largely at odds with his previous hyperbole of 99% and to then point out that these 99% claims don't do his argument any favours as people just skip past the point he's trying to make

I also didn't bother reading any of the links

  Presumably you won't be reading the links I posted either? 

[Doc Holliday]

The home office are never going to post proper data. They love these aliens and don't want to cause backlash.
But its common sense. Look at the UK in the last 10 years and the changes. Also look how that crime is increased. We all know why. Just some wont say.

I will be voting Reform or reform soon.
Europe and UK need change. We need a trump type leader tbh

I would like to reconsider my accusation that you are a troll. The latter requires a minimum IQ level which you clearly don't reach.

[Followyourdick]

The home office are never going to post proper data. They love these aliens and don't want to cause backlash.
But its common sense. Look at the UK in the last 10 years and the changes. Also look how that crime is increased. We all know why. Just some wont say.

I will be voting Reform or reform soon.
Europe and UK need change. We need a trump type leader tbh

Actually I’ve just realised I’m still waiting for the evidence to back up the 99% claim you made.

[Followyourdick]

Voluntary work sems good. Earn their keep. Maybe clean the roads theier sort make a mess. So much litter around and its always their sort in their areas. Voluntary litter picking where a British born supervises and gets paid. Creates more jobs.

Another you didn’t explain was what you mean exactly by “their sort” and “their areas” please?

[bigden40]

I am quite shocked BR that you accept his posts as factual. Did you look at the data he posted in the Dorset Police link? He clearly didn't as it contradicts his claims.

He also remarkably included this statement (presumably by accident)

My favourite word is 'complex' and the recording of crime certainly falls into this category.

Perception does not always match reality.

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Find it hard to accept those studies given the major flaws in recoding crime data in this country.  Has crime fallen as per the KCL report or has the recording and/or categorisation of crime fallen?

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As for any conclusion about national origin or ethnicity of perpetrators of crime, it’s hard to judge if you don’t capture the data.

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[mills_and_bhuna]

But its common sense.
 


We need a trump type leader tbh
   

[Doc Holliday]

Find it hard to accept those studies given the major flaws in recoding crime data in this country.  Has crime fallen as per the KCL report or has the recording and/or categorisation of crime fallen?

As for any conclusion about national origin or ethnicity of perpetrators of crime, it’s hard to judge if you don’t capture the data.

I agree. I refer the Honorable Gentleman to my comment.

My favourite word is 'complex' and the recording of crime certainly falls into this category.

The ONS also state that 'Police recorded crime data are not designated as accredited official statistics'. Their reports also use the CSEW which they appear to give more credibility to?

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It is still currently the best data we have and I stand by my 'perception' comment. Currently the latter is very heavily influenced by party politics and inevitably the media in particular social media 

[RedKettle]

But its common sense. Look at the UK in the last 10 years and the changes. Also look how that crime is increased. We all know why. Just some wont say.

Crime has fallen in the last 10 years!!  That is based on stats that you might dispute but it is the evidence and I would say my personal experience.  But then I do not heavily use social media and I am not taken in by those peddling a political message.  You need some critical thinking skills.

[Blackpool Rock]

Long queues for petrol in Moscow as Ukrainian drones continue to disrupt oil refineries meaning Russia who are an energy Superpower have actually had to start importing fuel 
Special military operation my arse

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[timsussex]

Crime has fallen in the last 10 years!!  That is based on stats that you might dispute but it is the evidence and I would say my personal experience.  But then I do not heavily use social media and I am not taken in by those peddling a political message.  You need some critical thinking skills.

Around here getting a crime number (especially for something which the police cant be bothered to investigate or feel that they are unlikely to easily solve ) is like getting blood from a stone

They dont actually refuse but all cops appear to have had a course in avoiding giving one or reducing it to a lower category eg Criminal damage down to anti social if you persist

Its a very effective way to reduce the stats

[DastardlyDick]

Ministry of Justice Figures: Reports drawing from the Police National Computer indicate that foreign nationals represent a notable percentage of overall sexual offense convictions, mirroring general population growth driven by immigration.Specific Nationalities: Freedom of Information data published by media outlets have broken down convictions by specific countries of origin, identifying statistical variations across different demographic groups.Analytical Nuance: Experts emphasize that raw conviction or charge numbers can be skewed by shifts in population denominators, varying sizes of specific migrant communities, and changes in police prosecution rates over time.Government and Public ResponseBehavioral Guidance: The Home Office introduced integration and behavioral literature for arriving asylum seekers—explicitly outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, harassment, and definitions of rape—to clarify legal standards and expectations.Debate on Public Safety: High-profile cases and data transparency reports have fueled intense political debate regarding background vetting, asylum hotel utilization, and the deportation frameworks governing foreign national offenders

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I suppose you know how the Police determine what Nationality a person is if they have no documents? They ask them, or, if they don't answer, it's back to the old IC number system and guess work.
As for "background checks" most of the Countries migrants folks from barely have a police force, never mind a database of crimes committed by individuals.

[Charliehutton]

Crime has fallen in the last 10 years!!

No, it hasn't. Those statistics fly in the face of what we can see with our own eyes. Shoplifting has now more or less been decriminalised, it's now on an industrial scale. Go into a co-op in some affluent areas of London and it's like you're in the South side of the Bronx. People don't bother reporting crime because they know the police will do nothing. You need to take off those rose tinted glasses and stop believing this state propaganda. Your complacency beggars belief.

[Jerboa]

Same goes for Jerboa. All he does is troll and tout Tommy.

Cry harder snowflake.