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Offline Blackpool Rock

It won't quash the ongoing investigation though, it's more a court of public opinion than a legal one.
I thought they said it stops the investigation when he steps down but starts again if he wins the seat again  :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

As I said the other day, it'll be a freak show. I'm sure he thinks it's some kind of general election by proxy but for the media it's an absolute gift.

I wonder who Labour will put up? In the general election the Labour candidate there ended up attracting a lot of positive attention on social media, which irked the party bosses because it was an unwinnable seat. He could prove an asset this time round.
Just been Mooted that Labour may not put a candidate up as they can't win the seat and won't want to split the vote

Offline bigden40

It won't quash the ongoing investigation though, it's more a court of public opinion than a legal one.

Only one that matters to him though. 

The Parliamentary investigation has no real teeth if he triggers the by-election on his own initiative as the worst sanction available is a suspension that triggers the potential for a recall petition.

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So Farage calls by election, this will be a referendum on Farage by the people of Clacton. Rupert Lowe is saying he will stand a candidate of his Restore party, it will be a two horse race, labour and tories have no chance.

Offline puntingking

So Farage calls by election, this will be a referendum on Farage by the people of Clacton. Rupert Lowe is saying he will stand a candidate of his Restore party, it will be a two horse race, labour and tories have no chance.

Farage won't win clacton again. The locals don't like him anymore seeing as though the residents of Clacton never see him supporting and speaking out for the local people.
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Farage won't win clacton again. The locals don't like him anymore seeing as though the residents of Clacton never see him supporting and speaking out for the local people.

The way Farage took over from the Reform candidate for Clacton at the last minute in 2024 was not classy.

Offline Vice Admiral

This will be very interesting.  British politics has long ago ceased to be anything but a circus freak show.  We can't do anything about it, so we might as well sit back, enjoy the spectacle, and chuckle bitterly now and then.

However I will make one serious point.

"This will be a people versus the establishment by-election," Farage says.  "The people of Clacton should be the judges of my actions."

So Clacton – hardly a representative constituency – decides!  We have the absurdity of a second by-election potentially determining the future direction of the United Kingdom.

Ah well.  I guess from now on we'll have to leave it to the voters of Makerfield and Clacton to decide who governs us.  The rest of us are effectively disenfranchised.


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Farage won't win clacton again. The locals don't like him anymore seeing as though the residents of Clacton never see him supporting and speaking out for the local people.

The bookies and poling organisations don’t seem to see it like that.

Offline Stevelondon

I’ve never liked a place with the name Clacton Nonce Sea.

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So Farage calls by election, this will be a referendum on Farage by the people of Clacton. Rupert Lowe is saying he will stand a candidate of his Restore party, it will be a two horse race, labour and tories have no chance.

Correction, Rupert Lowe is saying he won't stand a candidate in the upcoming by election, but will wait until after the standards commission have finished and a second by election is called.
So it might only be Nigel running against Count Binface.  :D

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The bookies and poling organisations don’t seem to see it like that.

Nor do I, for what it's worth.

It's Farage's personal fiefdom.  He'll win it at a canter.

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Its quite a clever move - after he is re-elected (and I wouldnt bet against him) what can the standards commissioner do ? investigate find him corrupt start a recall petition and order another by-election?

Offline Vice Admiral

Its quite a clever move - after he is re-elected (and I wouldnt bet against him) what can the standards commissioner do ? investigate find him corrupt start a recall petition and order another by-election?

Good point.

I don't think all is lost, however.  The voters of Clacton, as I said in Reply #23156, are not representative.  I think this episode will damage Farage's standing in the rest of the country.  His financial shenanigans give off a very bad smell.

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Starmer has just said that Farage is pulling ''a desperate stunt'' by calling for his own by-election.

He's doing it because he thinks he will win.

Starmer wont hold a General Election because he thinks that Labour would lose. Its Labour that are desperate according to every opinion poll in the last 15 months.

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I’ve never liked a place with the name Clacton Nonce Sea.


FFS I fell for that one, I had google this for it to throw back "did you mean - clacton on sea?".

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Ah well.  I guess from now on we'll have to leave it to the voters of Makerfield and Clacton to decide who governs us.  The rest of us are effectively disenfranchised.

Spot on. We used to giggle and point at banana republics like...er, us.

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Starmer has just said that Farage is pulling ''a desperate stunt'' by calling for his own by-election.

He's doing it because he thinks he will win.

Starmer wont hold a General Election because he thinks that Labour would lose. Its Labour that are desperate according to every opinion poll in the last 15 months.

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Starmer is desperate because he won’t hold a general election? Why on earth would he? He has a massive majority and a mandate  :thumbsup:

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Starmer is desperate because he won’t hold a general election? Why on earth would he? He has a massive majority and a mandate  :thumbsup:
Indeed, why risk losing a vast majority. Its their poll ratings that are desperate though.

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Indeed, why risk losing a vast majority. Its their poll ratings that are desperate though.

Can’t argue with that….

Offline mrwhite

It's a shame Two Tier doesn't order the navy to defend our own coastline.  :unknown:
The Armed Forces (in this case the Royal Navy) are not employed to do the job of the police or coast guard.  In fact they don't have the legal powers to do so.

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The Armed Forces (in this case the Royal Navy) are not employed to do the job of the police or coast guard.  In fact they don't have the legal powers to do so.

Probably don’t have the vessels either.

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Just been Mooted that Labour may not put a candidate up as they can't win the seat and won't want to split the vote

Contrary to what I said, I think the main parties will sit it out, yes.

I don't recall what they did when David Davis pulled a similar "Look at me!" stunt in his seat.

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Offline Blackpool Rock

Contrary to what I said, I think the main parties will sit it out, yes.

I don't recall what they did when David Davis pulled a similar "Look at me!" stunt in his seat.
Looks like they have decided to play Farage at his own game and none of the main parties are standing a candidate against him this time but will stand one in a 2nd byelection if it's called after any investigation has concluded

Labour out
Cons out
Lib Dems out
Greens out
Restore Britain out

However Comedian Jon Harvey, who regularly runs in by-elections under the pseudonym Count Binface, has confirmed he will run

So the question now is whether Count Binface will galvanise all the Anti Farage support and actually win the seat, that would be funny as fuck  :lol:

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Nigel Farage, arguably the most adroit politician of the past two decades, seems to have completely lost the plot.

Those angry clips of him when confronted by Sky News were not a good look.

Meanwhile, he has comprehensively shot himself in the foot by resigning from parliament and triggering a by-election.  He should have foreseen the possibility that the other major parties would decide not to play his game.  He's going to look very silly.

Actually he already looks very silly.  That quasi-presidential address, with him flanked by two massive union jacks, was overkill.  All that "the people versus the Establishment" schtick.  Honestly, Nige.  Don't you have any self-awareness?

Anyway, it would appear that at the Clacton by-election the Establishment will be represented by Count Binface, now second favourite, at very short odds of 5/1.

I wonder how many other eccentric and / or self-publicising candidates will emerge?  The stage at the declaration may look pretty comic .

Offline Followyourdick

Nigel Farage, arguably the most adroit politician of the past two decades, seems to have completely lost the plot.

Those angry clips of him when confronted by Sky News were not a good look.

Meanwhile, he has comprehensively shot himself in the foot by resigning from parliament and triggering a by-election.  He should have foreseen the possibility that the other major parties would decide not to play his game.  He's going to look very silly.

Actually he already looks very silly.  That quasi-presidential address, with him flanked by two massive union jacks, was overkill.  All that "the people versus the Establishment" schtick.  Honestly, Nige.  Don't you have any self-awareness?

Anyway, it would appear that at the Clacton by-election the Establishment will be represented by Count Binface, now second favourite, at very short odds of 5/1.

I wonder how many other eccentric and / or self-publicising candidates will emerge?  The stage at the declaration may look pretty comic .
Self awareness and Farridge do not go together.  He cannot cope with the slightest scrutiny, fucking thin skinned as they come.
It's a look at me stunt that hopefully will backfire.
As for him vs the stablishment, FFS he has been the establishment all his fucking life.
He is nothing but a self serving, grifting, mini Trump fucking gobshite.

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FFS I fell for that one, I had google this for it to throw back "did you mean - clacton on sea?".

 :D :lol:    Google is your friend 😂👍🏻

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Anyway, it would appear that at the Clacton by-election the Establishment will be represented by Count Binface, now second favourite, at very short odds of 5/1.

I wonder how many other eccentric and / or self-publicising candidates will emerge?  The stage at the declaration may look pretty comic .

I also think he's made one of the biggest blunders of his political career.  It's entirely possible that supporters of every party apart from Reform will turn out in force to vote for Count Binface.  It's a typical British sense of humour thing to do.  :D

Offline Followyourdick

I also think he's made one of the biggest blunders of his political career.  It's entirely possible that supporters of every party apart from Reform will turn out in force to vote for Count Binface.  It's a typical British sense of humour thing to do.  :D
Hope so, fucking serve the frog faced twat right.

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I think it would be ironic and funny, if Count Bin Face won this seat, and now has a seat in Parliament  :sarcastic:

Offline Punting2022

Reform will still be the next general election winners. Which is good. lefties are finished.

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Those angry clips of him when confronted by Sky News were not a good look.
IMO he was right to be angry at Sky News/Times for putting his daughter in danger by revealing her location.

Sky News/Times wont like their own editors/staff families addresses being advertised. They think that its OK to do the same to anyone else that they choose.

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Reform will still be the next general election winners. Which is good. lefties are finished.

It depends what you mean by “winners”.

On the basis of current polls and other indications, Reform UK will probably be the largest party after the 2029 General Election.  However it is very unlikely they will have an overall majority.

That “unlikelihood” is increased by the following recent events: Reform's disappointing performance in the Makerfield by-election; the rise of Restore Britain; the fact that Burnham’s government may come to be considerably more popular than Starmer’s; and Farage’s recent foolish, shady and unpleasant behaviour.

However as things stand, yes, Reform UK will probably be the largest party.

So what happens then?  Kemi Badenoch has insisted that the Conservatives will not go into a coalition with Reform.  But “never say never” is the oldest mantra in the political book, and more often breached than observed.

However if Badenoch sticks to her position, that leaves only the option of an “anti-Reform” coalition that would almost certainly need to include both Labour and the Conservatives – and it might reasonably be argued that hell would freeze over before that happens.

So, only one thing is certain after the next election: at one end of the scale, a lot of very difficult horse-trading; at the other end, complete chaos.

The compromise solution may be to choose Count Binface as Prime Minister since, in announcing that he will stand in the Clacton by-election, Binface said: "I will be a unity candidate and pledge to build at least one affordable house.”

Offline RandomGuy99

What a diplomat

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"I don't want to deal with them anymore, they're scum," the US president says at a Nato summit in Turkey. "They're sick people, they're led by sick people... As far as I'm concerned, it's over" - here are his remarks in full"
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I also think he's made one of the biggest blunders of his political career.  It's entirely possible that supporters of every party apart from Reform will turn out in force to vote for Count Binface.  It's a typical British sense of humour thing to do.  :D

Who could forget Boaty McBoatface.  :rolleyes:

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It's entirely possible that supporters of every party apart from Reform will turn out in force to vote for Count Binface.  It's a typical British sense of humour thing to do.  :D

You can be sure that once the joke had worn off Dick Ed Davey would be on his feet every week bitching and moaning about the dustbin on the back row.

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What a diplomat

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"I don't want to deal with them anymore, they're scum," the US president says at a Nato summit in Turkey. "They're sick people, they're led by sick people... As far as I'm concerned, it's over" - here are his remarks in full"
Trump justifying his FIFA award again.
It's like giving Paraguay the fair play award.

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If Binface's campaign develops momentum, is it conceivable that he could maybe get, oh, 5,000 votes from Clactonities with a GSOH and a desire to embarrass Farage? 

If so, what fun that would be! 

Either way, I very much fear that the self-appointed people's prince is on a hiding to nothing.

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Trump justifying his FIFA award again.
It's like giving Paraguay the fair play award.

Well iran thinks it can hold the world economy hostage with shipping. So good on trump for sorting. Tbh weak nato and europe should do more. Leftie europe has allowed itself to be invaded. . All join and hormuz will open. Get oil down to 66 a barrell and destroy tge terrorism
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If Binface's campaign develops momentum, is it conceivable that he could maybe get, oh, 5,000 votes from Clactonities with a GSOH and a desire to embarrass Farage? 

If so, what fun that would be! 

Either way, I very much fear that the self-appointed people's prince is on a hiding to nothing.

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I see that with some of the bookies, Binface's odds are now as short as 7/2.  Amazing! 

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Harry and company lose case against the Daily Mail.

Not sure where my sympathies lie. Am no fan of either Harry or the Mail and don't see the judiciary as infallible either. However I guardedly empathise with some of the co-plaintiffs.

What's your opinion  Was it indeed a whitewash ?

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Not sure where my sympathies lie. Am no fan of either Harry or the Mail and don't see the judiciary as infallible either. However I guardedly empathise with some of the co-plaintiffs.

What's your opinion  Was it indeed a whitewash ?

I'm no fan of Harry or the Daily Mail, either.  A plague on them both.

However I think this outcome was probably an instance of English justice at its best.

(Tom Bower's book Revenge makes a strong case for some of Harry's earlier legal successes against the media as not being English justice at its best ...)

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Either way, I very much fear that the self-appointed people's prince is on a hiding to nothing.
I think you'll find that he will still be leading in every opinion poll, as he has been doing for 15 months, no matter what the outcome is in Clacton.

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Harry and company lose case against the Daily Mail.

Not sure where my sympathies lie. Am no fan of either Harry or the Mail and don't see the judiciary as infallible either. However I guardedly empathise with some of the co-plaintiffs.

What's your opinion  Was it indeed a whitewash ?

(Wasn't sure whether the Politics or a new thread was appropriate )
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Not a single allegation against Associated Newspapers, publishers of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday was found to have any credibility, not one. I'm not sure if the rest of the media were celebrating their victory - I rather doubt it - but any of them truly in favour of a free press should have been.

Offline Blackpool Rock

Well iran thinks it can hold the world economy hostage with shipping. So good on trump for sorting. Tbh weak nato and europe should do more. Leftie europe has allowed itself to be invaded. . All join and hormuz will open. Get oil down to 66 a barrell and destroy tge terrorism
Oh yeah all hail the saviour  :drinks:

Oh hang on a minute wasn't oil / gas etc flowing freely through the Strait of Hormuz unhindered until Trump started throwing bombs around  :unknown:

It's like someone setting someone else on fire then saying they are a hero for putting the fire out  :dash:
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this just about sums Trump up........most of the Nato leadership laughing at him behind his back. Even Starmer can't keep a straight face

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Well iran thinks it can hold the world economy hostage with shipping. So good on trump for sorting. Tbh weak nato and europe should do more. Leftie europe has allowed itself to be invaded. . All join and hormuz will open. Get oil down to 66 a barrell and destroy tge terrorism
I see you bought the bullshit.
Hook, line and sinker.
The US is the one holding the world economy hostage .
Honestly anyone who still thinks Miriam's bitch has any credibility needs to wake the fuck up.