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Offline Jerboa

It's not from Wiki as I said I asked a question on Google and it came up with this AI overview which didn't include anything about him being Super Mario  :hi:

His accounts look pretty shit, probably just a vehicle to filter some dodgy cash, he likes dodgy shit like using other peoples passports and fiddling mortgage applications  :hi:

So this is it, you know the square root of F all about it, it is quite boring arguing with someone who is either lying or hasn't a clue apart from what they google up.  :rolleyes:

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Whose conceding any point  :unknown: I never said that he hadn't worked, all I did was post the AI overview which omitted that part for some reason, no reluctance whatsoever and i'm actually grateful for you sharing that piece of information  :hi:

Congratulations for being one of Tommy's donators and not receiving benefits, again i've learnt something here in that there are a few "Outliers"

I've never claimed to be a "Tough Guy", let me know what level of security clearance you have and I may be able to tell you what i've done for my country but i'm guessing you are more at the "Grunt" end of the scale  :music:

Blackpool Rock. Respectfully, are you being a bit slow? The Rape Gang Inquiry was carried out by Rupert Lowe MP and headed by a former victim of the Pakistani rape gangs. That is who I donated to.

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Whose conceding any point  :unknown: I never said that he hadn't worked, all I did was post the AI overview which omitted that part for some reason, no reluctance whatsoever and i'm actually grateful for you sharing that piece of information  :hi:

Congratulations for being one of Tommy's donators and not receiving benefits, again i've learnt something here in that there are a few "Outliers"

I've never claimed to be a "Tough Guy", let me know what level of security clearance you have and I may be able to tell you what i've done for my country but i'm guessing you are more at the "Grunt" end of the scale  :music:

"Grunt" is an American term for their privates or marines. It is very unlikely you would use that term if you had served in the British Armed Forces.

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Whose conceding any point  :unknown: I never said that he hadn't worked, all I did was post the AI overview which omitted that part for some reason, no reluctance whatsoever and i'm actually grateful for you sharing that piece of information  :hi:

Congratulations for being one of Tommy's donators and not receiving benefits, again i've learnt something here in that there are a few "Outliers"

I've never claimed to be a "Tough Guy", let me know what level of security clearance you have and I may be able to tell you what i've done for my country but i'm guessing you are more at the "Grunt" end of the scale  :music:

I see the two cheeks of one arse are coming for you 🤣

Futile debating with them as when asked a question they flip it and ask another  :crazy:


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I see the two cheeks of one arse are coming for you 🤣

Futile debating with them as when asked a question they flip it and ask another  :crazy:

Findog, have you managed to get over your EAS for English Rebecca? Findog, veteran of the Flame War.

Offline Jerboa

I see the two cheeks of one arse are coming for you 🤣

Futile debating with them as when asked a question they flip it and ask another  :crazy:

Let me translate, "you are making yourself look foolish, a tactical withdrawal would be advisable"

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Nazir Ahmed
Eric Joyce
Jared O'Mara
Denis MacShane
Elliot Morley
Jim Devine
Eric Illsley
David Chaytor
Sean Coughlan
Liron Velleman
Sean Morton

A few Labour politicians and Lords convicted of CSA, corruption, embezzlement. I could only find TWO Reform candidates for child porn offenses (Simon Danczuk [who was also a Labour MP] and Jack Denny). So the balance seems to be heavily in Labour's favour.
Well I did say all / most parties were represented so shock horror you've managed to find some dodgy Labour politicians  :scare:

Think it was this thread where the cognitive ability of Leave / Reform voters was proved to be lower than average, have you perhaps not worked out that the 2 Reform guys you found actually make them a much higher % of wrong un's than other parties who have far more MP's and have been around for far longer, I mean Reform in it's current guise has only been around for 5 and a half years yet already have a traitor and not 1 but 2 child porn paedos  :wacko:   

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Let me translate, "you are making yourself look foolish, a tactical withdrawal would be advisable"

Like he withdrew from the Flame War he lost to James999. Still gets PTSD from it.

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Well I did say all / most parties were represented so shock horror you've managed to find some dodgy Labour politicians  :scare:

Think it was this thread where the cognitive ability of Leave / Reform voters was proved to be lower than average, have you perhaps not worked out that the 2 Reform guys you found actually make them a much higher % of wrong un's than other parties who have far more MP's and have been around for far longer, I mean Reform in it's current guise has only been around for 5 and a half years yet already have a traitor and not 1 but 2 child porn paedos  :wacko:

So you accept corruption and CSA is more prevalent in the Labour Party than Reform. I believe Reform were in existence during all of these Labour criminals' convictions. Looks like you've lost the point and are scrambling. Yikes, retreat to some ad hominem! This is too easy.

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I see the two cheeks of one arse are coming for you 🤣

Futile debating with them as when asked a question they flip it and ask another  :crazy:
Yes I was just thinking as I posted my last couple of replies that despite a couple of days ago saying I hardly posted on this thread as it had descended somewhat I seem to be getting drawn back in by the trolls who seem to live; eat; sleep; breathe all things Tommy.

Anyway back to my senses and i'll stop feeding them  :hi:

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Yes I was just thinking as I posted my last couple of replies that despite a couple of days ago saying I hardly posted on this thread as it had descended somewhat I seem to be getting drawn back in by the trolls who seem to live; eat; sleep; breathe all things Tommy.

Anyway back to my senses and i'll stop feeding them  :hi:

I accept your capitulation. God save the King.

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Yes I was just thinking as I posted my last couple of replies that despite a couple of days ago saying I hardly posted on this thread as it had descended somewhat I seem to be getting drawn back in by the trolls who seem to live; eat; sleep; breathe all things Tommy.

Anyway back to my senses and i'll stop feeding them  :hi:

Yes mate easier to ignore them really maybe they will come to their senses one day, we live in hope!


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Yes mate easier to ignore them really maybe they will come to their senses one day, we live in hope!

You can't ignore it. You looked through my reviews because I'm in your head and you hate that I can outwit you. How's Rebecca? Still got PTSD from the Flame War with James999?

Offline Jerboa

Yes I was just thinking as I posted my last couple of replies that despite a couple of days ago saying I hardly posted on this thread as it had descended somewhat I seem to be getting drawn back in by the trolls who seem to live; eat; sleep; breathe all things Tommy.

Anyway back to my senses and i'll stop feeding them  :hi:

Well you got called out for using a google AI sum up that is not accurate, it's not just you, many people believe everything on google, of course google and other online services are controlled and the information is managed.

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On Newsnight last night, presenter Matt Chorley showed viewers a selection of texts he had received from Labour MPs or ministers about the upstart Burnham.

Some of them were negative.  For example: “Is Andy getting the train down to Westminster on Monday or will he walk on water?”

And: “I hope I’m wrong, but I fear Burnham will be quickly exposed as a naked king and we will be hated even more.”

Burnham has two problems.

First, the only way the United Kingdom can avoid financial ruin is if some very tough decisions are taken.  That predicates a principled, honest, ruthless, no-nonsense and (probably) right-of-centre government. 

But unless he undergoes a remarkable Damascene conversion, Burnham will be worse even than Starmer at confronting the harsh realities, because he’s more of a leftie.

And the second problem?

When Burnham fails to “deliver” and it turns out that the Yellow Brick Road leads to Nowheresville, the question of his legitimacy may rise up to trouble him.

Yes, the Tories got rid of May, Johnson and Truss precipately.  However in none of those cases was the leader’s downfall solely due to the ambition and machinations of just one individual.

Starmer is not a very good Prime Minister.  Nonetheless, if Burnham had not won in Makerfield, Starmer would have continued in the role.  No-one else would have beaten him in a leadership contest.

Burnham will always be tainted by being a usurper.  When people turn against him, they are likely to turn very hard.

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On Newsnight last night, presenter Matt Chorley showed viewers a selection of texts he had received from Labour MPs or ministers about the upstart Burnham.

Some of them were negative.  For example: “Is Andy getting the train down to Westminster on Monday or will he walk on water?”

And: “I hope I’m wrong, but I fear Burnham will be quickly exposed as a naked king and we will be hated even more.”

Burnham has two problems.

First, the only way the United Kingdom can avoid financial ruin is if some very tough decisions are taken.  That predicates a principled, honest, ruthless, no-nonsense and (probably) right-of-centre government. 

But unless he undergoes a remarkable Damascene conversion, Burnham will be worse even than Starmer at confronting the harsh realities, because he’s more of a leftie.

And the second problem?

When Burnham fails to “deliver” and it turns out that the Yellow Brick Road leads to Nowheresville, the question of his legitimacy may rise up to trouble him.

Yes, the Tories got rid of May, Johnson and Truss precipately.  However in none of those cases was the leader’s downfall solely due to the ambition and machinations of just one individual.

Starmer is not a very good Prime Minister.  Nonetheless, if Burnham had not won in Makerfield, Starmer would have continued in the role.  No-one else would have beaten him in a leadership contest.

Burnham will always be tainted by being a usurper.  When people turn against him, they are likely to turn very hard.

Don't worry about it. Your guy Andy has things in order and Labour will get in again to carry on their agenda of open borders, men in women's toilets, and spending money that doesn't exist.

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Don't worry about it. Your guy Andy has things in order and Labour will get in again to carry on their agenda of open borders, men in women's toilets, and spending money that doesn't exist.

You've hit the nail on the head
The list is endless

The armed forces are so depleted they're like a person lying on a bed with their legs forced open .... defenceless
Speaking of defenceless just like white girls given Labours soft touch approach to dealing with industrial scale pakistani rape gangs
Labour don't want to alienate their very important [& increasing] mislamic voters

Anyone know how long it takes Labour to get an import set up to vote ?
Voting Labour highly likely given that rock up in an inflatable to a warm welcome & then comes free accomo health care food an allowance free taxis & free sim cards
Then they can bring over their extended families supposedly suffering persecution wherever it is  :rolleyes: :dash:  [more votes]

A rework of Diane Abbott ⬇️

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As I have stated before, the original 2022 invasion was a punch in the nose, to get Kiev to come to the negotiation table, and it actually worked, and yes sure if the government had collapsed Russia wouldn't have shed a tear, they would have carried on negotiating with recognised Ukrainian politicians.

No Russia doesn't want all of Ukraine, western Ukraine was never part of the Russian empire it was Austro-Hungarian/Polish, the people are Ukrainian speakers, the longer Ukraine refuses to come to terms the more territory Russia will take.

Absolute BS.

In the early days of the invasion the Russians went straight through Western Ukraine and got close to Kviv before they were stopped.

Even now Russia refuses a ceasefire and refuses to even to talk direct to Ukraine.

Let's face it, Russia is the one with a bloody nose.
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You've hit the nail on the head
The list is endless

The armed forces are so depleted they're like a person lying on a bed with their legs forced open .... defenceless
Speaking of defenceless just like white girls given Labours soft touch approach to dealing with industrial scale pakistani rape gangs
Labour don't want to alienate their very important [& increasing] mislamic voters

Anyone know how long it takes Labour to get an import set up to vote ?
Voting Labour highly likely given that rock up in an inflatable to a warm welcome & then comes free accomo health care food an allowance free taxis & free sim cards
Then they can bring over their extended families supposedly suffering persecution wherever it is  :rolleyes: :dash:  [more votes]

A rework of Diane Abbott ⬇️

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In the end, they didn't need to alienate them - their voting block decided to switch to the Green Party of their own accord. So Labour allowed 250,000 white girls to be raped by Pakistani men for nothing. Wonder if they ponder that . . . if they had a soul, I mean?

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Absolute BS.

In the early days of the invasion the Russians went straight through Western Ukraine and got close to Kviv before they were stopped.

Even now Russia refuses a ceasefire and refuses to even to talk direct to Ukraine.

Let's face it, Russia is the one with a bloody nose.

You make it sound like a playground scrap. Ukraine has lost an entire generation of prime men. You can't recover from that. If Zelensky would step aside and enjoy spending the proceeds of his Swiss bank account, more sensible Ukrainians could take on the negotiations and come to an agreement with Russia. Unless you think the war should continue?

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Whats happening with the rozzers investigating Andy & Mandy ?
They have indicated that this will be a lengthy process
They're thinking lengthy enough so that things drop below the radar & people's memories fade with the cans being kicked down the road
If that's what they think they are mistaken, especially re Andy

The Establishment don't want to embarrass The Firm that would kill off any chances of making them making the honours list

& you can guarantee that Mandy has more intel on Starmer that would be incredibly damaging to both him [Starmer] & Labour
When Starmer gets booted out some of his protection does too him being able to steer things away from himself as PM

Its a difficult job that the rozzers have doing depth investigations looking thorough & somehow finding the square roof of FA
I can see responses like Phil's 'unwise but not illegal'

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Whats happening with the rozzers investigating Andy & Mandy ?
They have indicated that this will be a lengthy process
They're thinking lengthy enough so that things drop below the radar & people's memories fade with the cans being kicked down the road
If that's what they think they are mistaken, especially re Andy

The Establishment don't want to embarrass The Firm that would kill off any chances of making them making the honours list

& you can guarantee that Mandy has more intel on Starmer that would be incredibly damaging to both him [Starmer] & Labour
When Starmer gets booted out some of his protection does too him being able to steer things away from himself as PM

Its a difficult job that the rozzers have doing depth investigations looking thorough & somehow finding the square roof of FA
I can see responses like Phil's 'unwise but not illegal'

Or responses like, "Muh, but whaddabout TR/SYL's GRIFTING?"

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In the end, they didn't need to alienate them - their voting block decided to switch to the Green Party of their own accord. So Labour allowed 250,000 white girls to be raped by Pakistani men for nothing. Wonder if they ponder that . . . if they had a soul, I mean?

That's a good point
Orchestrated voting
If that had been white people doing this it would have been jumped on called out
TBF those overseeing the voting to check for fraud had their work cut out given often similar names & looks

On the 250,000 Pakistani fathers & mothers must have been relieved knowing that their own daughters not at risk
White meat on the menu & to help this along they are good at looking the other way ignoring what must have been pretty obvious that something amiss
Covering for them alibis etc

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That's a good point
Orchestrated voting
If that had been white people doing this it would have been jumped on called out
TBF those overseeing the voting to check for fraud had their work cut out given often similar names & looks

On the 250,000 Pakistani fathers & mothers must have been relieved knowing that their own daughters not at risk
White meat on the menu & to help this along they are good at looking the other way ignoring what must have been pretty obvious that something amiss
Covering for them alibis etc

Findog thinks fighting for justice for 250,000 white girls being anally raped by Pakistani Muslims is "banging a drum." But we need to make allowance for his weak mental state after losing the Flame War to James999 and battling PTSD after English Rebecca ran linguistic rings around him and rejected him.

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Absolute BS.

In the early days of the invasion the Russians went straight through Western Ukraine and got close to Kviv before they were stopped.

Even now Russia refuses a ceasefire and refuses to even to talk direct to Ukraine.

Let's face it, Russia is the one with a bloody nose.

The situation is a total mess basically Putin will not back down even when it’s costing Russia millions in lost revenue let alone the loss of life.

Another pointless war same as Iran which I see the peace agreement has gone tits up already

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Its a bit late & difficult for me to put the ER genie back in the bottle now, sorry Findog

@Sb for future reference its J999 abbreviated

In my early days on here i quite liked him, J999

& whilst i was finding my way round he was straight in off ground two footed tackles when several UKPers were giving me a going over

Things were different back then there weren't really any rules & it was like urban warfare
So far better if J999 was if not on your side he wasn;t lining up against you

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I've got a banging Brazilian TS review pending. Findog will love that one, being obsessed with them (he now stalks my reviews to find them).

Don't dish it out if you can't take it, Findog. Woof woof.

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Absolute BS.

In the early days of the invasion the Russians went straight through Western Ukraine and got close to Kviv before they were stopped.

Even now Russia refuses a ceasefire and refuses to even to talk direct to Ukraine.

Let's face it, Russia is the one with a bloody nose.
They stopped themselves.
You've forgotten the peace talks that BoJo was semt in to sabotage already?
Russia regards all talks of ceasefire as Minsk 3.0 and rightfully so.
The US and their lapdogs are not to be trusted, be it Biden OR Trump.

Offline DastardlyDick

You missed out the part from 2005 where he was working on building sites and started his own plumbing business, why did you miss that out? Is it not included in his wikipedia you just copied & pasted? Meaning you actually haven't a scooby.

And your evidence for this is what exactly?

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Just seen this and pissed myself laughing  :lol:

Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum


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Just seen this and pissed myself laughing  :lol:

Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum


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Not funny, It is actually sad to hear. Immigration is way out of control at the moment.

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Not funny, It is actually sad to hear. Immigration is way out of control at the moment.

We have a genuine crisis in our population demographics, stagnant wage growth, and a lack of affordable housing. The issue with immigration will only get worse, cats really out of the bag here sadly

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Not funny, It is actually sad to hear. Immigration is way out of control at the moment.
At the moment  :unknown:

You do realise it went up after Brexit and is now on the way down since Labour came into power  :unknown:
It was the Tories who let it get way out of control aided and abetted ironically by Farage / UKIP meaning that when we left the EU there was no longer any agreement or route for actually sending illegals back.
As for the legal immigration that was "Get Brexit Done" Boris who was never actually against immigration and was happy to extend the rights of family members of migrants to come here, employ 1 person in the NHS and get 20 others coming that you don't want  :dash:

But apparently it's all down to labour and Starmer, seriously people need to start actually critically analysing what actually happened  :dash:

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Absolute BS.

In the early days of the invasion the Russians went straight through Western Ukraine and got close to Kviv before they were stopped. Okay, your geography is not great, have a look at the enclosed map, Kiev is roughly central north of the country, no Russian military where in western Ukraine.

Even now Russia refuses a ceasefire and refuses to even to talk direct to Ukraine. They refuse a ceasefire because they're winning, Ukraine needs a ceasefire to stop the losses and a chance to resupply and get a operational pause.

Let's face it, Russia is the one with a bloody nose. Russia has had loses for sure, but nowhere close to what UKR MoD claims.

They stopped themselves.
You've forgotten the peace talks that BoJo was semt in to sabotage already?
Russia regards all talks of ceasefire as Minsk 3.0 and rightfully so.
The US and their lapdogs are not to be trusted, be it Biden OR Trump.

Absolutely, Putin won't be fooled again as he was over Minsk, if Ukraine announced they were pulling out of the Donbass, Russia would ceasefire, then arrange negotiations.

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Just so you know, I am non partisan and I think all political parties are to blame for our immigration situation.

I don't care if it is going down, it needs to come down much more.

Just so you are aware, 20% of people living in the Uk long term was not born here (one in every 5 people).

That is way too high.

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And your evidence for this is what exactly?

What do you actually want, copies of his payslips? He's mentioned on numerous times he worked on building sites, he was also buying and flipping houses before the EDL. The mortgage fraud that is constantly spoken about, was that Tommy lent his brother in law a deposit on a house that he did up and sold.

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Just so you know, I am non partisan and I think all political parties are to blame for our immigration situation.

I don't care if it is going down, it needs to come down much more.

Just so you are aware, 20% of people living in the Uk long term was not born here (one in every 5 people).

That is way too high.

Agree all the legacy parties screwed us, the Boris wave was mental, from 1945 till Blair immigration was on average around 30,000 give or take, watching the green candidate on question time the other week, sums up the mindset, couldn't or wouldn't recognise that there is a correlation between the amount of migrants that enter the country, and demand for housing and services.

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What do you actually want, copies of his payslips? He's mentioned on numerous times he worked on building sites, he was also buying and flipping houses before the EDL. The mortgage fraud that is constantly spoken about, was that Tommy lent his brother in law a deposit on a house that he did up and sold.
He's mentioned it - the man's a serial liar and you expect someone to believe him?

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He's mentioned it - the man's a serial liar and you expect someone to believe him?

I don't care what you want to believe.  :hi:

Offline Adoniron

You make it sound like a playground scrap. Ukraine has lost an entire generation of prime men. You can't recover from that. If Zelensky would step aside and enjoy spending the proceeds of his Swiss bank account, more sensible Ukrainians could take on the negotiations and come to an agreement with Russia. Unless you think the war should continue?

And what would that agreement with Russia look like?

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Absolutely, Putin won't be fooled again as he was over Minsk, if Ukraine announced they were pulling out of the Donbass, Russia would ceasefire, then arrange negotiations.

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There is no point arguing with Putin fanboys like you and M&B.

Let's see how much longer it takes Russia to win the war it started 3 1/2 years ago shall we.

Offline Jerboa

There is no point arguing with Putin fanboys like you and M&B.

Let's see how much longer it takes Russia to win the war it started 3 1/2 years ago shall we.

Okay, if you don't want to, btw it started 4 years & 4 months ago.  :hi:

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Okay, if you don't want to, btw it started 4 years & 4 months ago.  :hi:

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You make it sound like a playground scrap. Ukraine has lost an entire generation of prime men. You can't recover from that. If Zelensky would step aside and enjoy spending the proceeds of his Swiss bank account, more sensible Ukrainians could take on the negotiations and come to an agreement with Russia. Unless you think the war should continue?
It's estimated that Russia has lost over 500,000 military personnel with talk of another round of conscription

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Boner is still missing his disciple fan fag Camel since he got banned

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He got banned?

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Just so you know, I am non partisan and I think all political parties are to blame for our immigration situation.

I don't care if it is going down, it needs to come down much more.

Just so you are aware, 20% of people living in the Uk long term was not born here (one in every 5 people).

That is way too high.
I'll agree that immigration has been far too high for far too long under both Labour and the Cons but the biggest recent issues have been the Boris wave and then the tidal wave of illegals who couldn't be sent back thanks to Farage and leaving the EU, ironic really  :dash:

I also agree that it needs to come down much more however the trend is on a downward trajectory, given the state of things 2 years ago when Labour got in and everything was literally either broken or close to broken how long do people actually think it takes to plug the leaks; fix the ship and turn it around  :unknown:
As i've said many times IMO peoples expectations are totally unrealistic in what they think is achievable, unfortunately these expectations aren't being managed properly, in fact Farage & Co are adding fuel to the flames  :thumbsdown:

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Another violent crime involving Muslims. Wonder why the Tommy bootlickers havent jumped all over this one like they usually do...
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Agree all the legacy parties screwed us, the Boris wave was mental, from 1945 till Blair immigration was on average around 30,000 give or take, watching the green candidate on question time the other week, sums up the mindset, couldn't or wouldn't recognise that there is a correlation between the amount of migrants that enter the country, and demand for housing and services.

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That's a very good graphic, thanks  :thumbsup:

It also demonstrates exactly what I said would happen regarding immigration PRIOR to the EU referendum in that if businesses needed to hire people from outside the UK then they'd still hire them however you'd just get less EU workers coming here and more from the 4 corners of various shitholes with customs / lifestyles / cultures which don't fit with British Traditional values nearly so well.

The Poles etc came here and most of them speak English very well, their basic culture is the same or at least very similar to ours and they fitted in pretty well, going out with work colleagues in a group was never a problem if there were Poles; Hungarians; Ukrainians etc as they'd join in and were happy to have a few beers with the rest of us.

Many (i'd say the vast majority from what I saw) of the EU workers who came were fit young people full of ambition and enthusiasm, many came over with friends / partners for support, some came to send money back home and support family which is fair enough but they didn't get a job in the NHS and then bring over decrepit Mum; Dad; Gran; Grandad; 5 kids and fuck knows who else none of which could speak English and all who ended up needing housing and benefits and relying on the NHS to patch them up (AKA The Boris Wave)  :thumbsdown:

Some of the EU workers settled but many also returned home after 2-5 years whereas the Non EU ones have no reason to go back home to their shithole when they can stay in the UK FOC on benefits with a nice house etc


When I argue against Farage and Brexit people lazily jump to the conclusion that i'm Pro immigration or rather mass uncontrolled immigration and open borders etc but the fact is that i'm not, I am however able to stand back and accept that we do need some (SOME) immigration but that it needs to be controlled and far far lower than we've seen for decades now.
I'm also able to look through the fog of bullshit from the likes of Farage & Co to understand that they are actually the biggest cause of the recent issues, what beggars belief is that others can't see this and still want to vote for this guy who lied and promised them so much yet failed to deliver on his promise  :dash:

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Excellent post.  :hi:

I concur.  Sets out the (depressing) facts of the matter with factuality and clarity.