Madlin Moon ~ My Worst Ever Punt.

[Daffodil]

As a newbie and expecting therefore to get ripped to shreds, some experienced punters have replied to this thread and said "well actually we had a negative experience with MM but kept quiet at the time". Wouldn't it have been more useful if they had put a review up rather than keeping quiet?

And if the newbie "fanboy fluffies" tend to post most of the reviews, if they stop, then there are less reviews and let's face it, the number of reviews as a ratio to the number of UKP members who visit WG's appears to be very small.

OK - I'm braced...........................

Most punters are actually pretty nice guys and don't want to just lay into a prossie. If she only had glowing reviews here there are plenty of punters who would think they are simply to blame. Once you get one voice of dissent others are likely to say, 'hey, that was like my experience. Perhaps it wasn't me'.

There is also definitely an issue here with fluffies and fanboys jumping on negative posts. It might discourage some from posting.

[Daffodil]

Smiths

Your view is understood and clear , but it would be a great shame if the forum bends
Towards a place where punters just post to vent there feelings and slag off WGs
Just because they can.

You told me day one read the reviews of the punters that are respected and proven
In your own mind and that has worked for me and sound advice.

But there are good punters and bad punters , and many bad WGs.

Btw I am not saying B&G is a bad punter let me make clear.

Steve once posted in a comment to JRC over a bad review on trusted WG
Think it went something like , the guy sounds like a wanker and his approach
To the girl would have got her back up.

Steve and you have both made the point that as punters attitude before and during
The punt is important as is some level of respect .
As if she has I little extra to give you will get it reflected in the service.

Well it sounds like you are saying that and what the fuck is a "trusted WG" anyway? One that has loads of fanboy positives? 

I think we all appreciate that English is not your forte TP, and understand the reasons, but it's becoming a bit of a tired excuse. A bit like Madlin's 

[Daffodil]

Not always true.  Hope conquers Reason 9 times out of 10 when the dick takes control, even for experienced punters.

Look, it's clear you've plucked those figures out of thin air. Realistically you cannot possibly know how many times "hope conquers reason" for experienced punters. For me it's far less than that 

[OldAdmin]

Not always true.  Hope conquers Reason 9 times out of 10 when the dick takes control, even for experienced punters.

Not for me. I started going into a punt with the full confidence that if I wasn't in any way happy I would walk. And I did at many times, especially with the shitty Romanians and their bait-and-switch scams.
And that happened after just a few years of punting. I'm sure those with even more experience are exactly the same way as me.
The dick stopped controlling me, I matured and grew up from that phase.

[JamesRockford]

Look, it's clear you've plucked those figures out of thin air.

What are you suggesting??? No way did I pluck those figures out of thin air!!!  I work for a professional polling organisation and we conducted an indepth survey with a 2% error likelihood (at a 99% significance level) after questioning 1,000 punters this very morning while standing outside Cafe Nero in Soho.  Well over 100% of those surveyed admitted that Hope conquers Reason in the trouser department.

[Daffodil]

What are you suggesting??? No way did I pluck those figures out of thin air!!!  I work for a professional polling organisation and we conducted an indepth survey with a 2% error likelihood (at a 99% significance level) after questioning 1,000 punters this very morning while standing outside Cafe Nero in Soho.  Well over 100% of those surveyed admitted that Hope conquers Reason in the trouser department.

So don't make stupid statements then 

[mattylondon]

I agree , but you have to question if they did have a bad punt or just winding up the thread .

I enjoy reading your reviews TP, but sometimes I do wonder whose side you're on? Are you with the customer or the service provider?

You bang on, ad infinitum, about who writes reviews and who doesn't. As if this is the defining characteristic of who contributes to UKP and who doesn't. It isn't. Yes reviews are very important. I understand that you're on cloud 9 after a punt. I understand that some want to scream from the rooftops what a great time they had. People like you appear to wear their reviews like a 'badge of honour'. I read all the congratulatory high fives and back slapping that goes on.

This forum is very widely read. All is fine and dandy if you're pushing out positive reviews. Have you ever stopped to consider the potential consequences of posting a negative review? So many punters are stupid or don't care, that they make themselves easily identifiable to their real person. It may not matter to you but it bloody well matters to me and many others. These women are not your friends, trust me. Something you may well find out down the line should you post a negative and they turn on you.

Have you ever stopped to consider that this sycophancy and over hyping of some girls, will almost certainly ensure she pushes up her rates? Yes, the price is up to the girl but if that choice has been influenced by a few fan boy idiots on here, they've indirectly fucked over other punters. I work in a well paid job and can afford it. Many punters do not and £100 to them is a lot of money. Most of us are pretty decent guys and treat people, in all walks of life, with respect. I don't recognize this prossie bashing nonsense you keep referring to? Some of us can smell the bullshit we're fed on a daily basis by prossies, even if we enjoy punting them most of the time. I retain a healthy degree of cynicism about what they say because I know through speaking with dozens upon dozens, post punt, what they really think of punters in the main. And yes, I shall post my own reviews, time delayed, if and when I see fit.

[Kabir]

I thought Madlin is the cheapest pornstar and was considering to see her but after reading this review I cannot take the risk of wasting money.

[Jerboa]

I've just read the whole thread, respect to B&G for posting a negative report on a well regarded SP.

Shame that Madlin did very little to sort the situation, and told some old pony about leaving the cash on the table. If she wasn't up for the appointment she should of made it clear at the time, but she probably thought B&G wasn't a well known UKP poster.

Maybe she was having a bad day, I've never punted with her, so don't know, but as we know good prossies also get bad feedback, it happens so it wouldn't stop me booking MM in the future, but I agree about not bigging these popular ladies so much, as all that happens is other punters don't find the same fairy tale punt, and the hooker takes a fall or raise their rates.

Many punters on here and other boards don't write bad or average reports, I've argued in the past that they should give feedback, good, bad or average, to help fellow punters, anyone remember Lamorak from PN? The guy who never had a bad punt.

So to the guys who did see MM previously and had negative feedback, you should of added it at the time, why would you be scared of her fans jumping on you? It's only a bloody forum, not UFC! 

[Kabir]

I've just read the whole thread, respect to B&G for posting a negative report on a well regarded SP.

Shame that Madlin did very little to sort the situation, and told some old pony about leaving the cash on the table. If she wasn't up for the appointment she should of made it clear at the time, but she probably thought B&G wasn't a well known UKP poster.

Maybe she was having a bad day, I've never punted with her, so don't know, but as we know good prossies also get bad feedback, it happens so it wouldn't stop me booking MM in the future, but I agree about not bigging these popular ladies so much, as all that happens is other punters don't find the same fairy tale punt, and the hooker takes a fall or raise their rates.

Many punters on here and other boards don't write bad or average reports, I've argued in the past that they should give feedback, good, bad or average, to help fellow punters, anyone remember Lamorak from PN? The guy who never had a bad punt.

So to the guys who did see MM previously and had negative feedback, you should of added it at the time, why would you be scared of her fans jumping on you? It's only a bloody forum, not UFC! 

basically it is a systematic way when anyone shares a bad experience then all others are more or less interested to share their bad experiences as well. I have not seen her yet but was due to see her and now reading this review I changed my mind although her previous reviews were positive here.

[Gigabyte]

I thought I would throw my 2 pennies in having read the thread though.

Yes I have seen MM multiple times, yes I have been positive about the experiences as it has been good.
No I didn't write a review on here but added my comments to anothers review.
Would I continue to see her after reading this review? Yes, as my personal experience has been different.
Will I continue to write reviews here about the WG's I see? Not unless they are negative
Do I respect those that kept quiet about their bad experience until B&G wrote the thread? No
Do I respect B&G for writing about his experience? Yes

[smiths]

I thought I would throw my 2 pennies in having read the thread though.

Yes I have seen MM multiple times, yes I have been positive about the experiences as it has been good.
No I didn't write a review on here but added my comments to anothers review.
Would I continue to see her after reading this review? Yes, as my personal experience has been different.
Will I continue to write reviews here about the WG's I see? Not unless they are negative
Do I respect those that kept quiet about their bad experience until B&G wrote the thread? No
Do I respect B&G for writing about his experience? Yes

Why have you decided to now only do negative reviews on here instead of both negatives and positives?

[Daffodil]

Why have you decided to now only do negative reviews on here instead of both negatives and positives?

Indeed, makes no sense to me.

[James999]

Perhaps it's his way of protesting thar MM got a negative review 

[rogerc23]

Can someone provide a list of who these "fanboys" are?

[punk]

Can someone provide a list of who these "fanboys" are?

why?

[iPad3]

Can someone provide a list of who these "fanboys" are?

So let's get this clear, your asking someone else to trawl the pages of the site to compile a list of white knights???, I know some of our members clearly have a little to much time on their hands but I think your unlikely to find anyone whos gonna do that, good luck with it though.

[vt]

Just to lighten the tone, I just spotted this with the beautiful Madlin...from 00:50 onwards...

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I'd still love to have her empty my sack!! 

Hopefully this minor setback will spur her on to show the same enthusiasm she does in her movies.

[LL]

Just to lighten the tone, I just spotted this with the beautiful Madlin...from 00:50 onwards...

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I'd still love to have her empty my sack!! 

Hopefully this minor setback will spur her on to show the same enthusiasm she does in her movies.

Call me a cunt for hoping that this whole debacle causes her to drop her prices, thus tipping her into the bargain basement end of the punting scene and within the reach of my cheap-ass punting budget.

Do any WGs last here?  We've seen so many of them fall from grace.  If I was a WG I would stay away from this place. 

[NIK]

Just to lighten the tone, I just spotted this with the beautiful Madlin...from 00:50 onwards...

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I'd still love to have her empty my sack!! 

Hopefully this minor setback will spur her on to show the same enthusiasm she does in her movies.

Horrible stuff. How anyone can find that erotic I don't know. 

[cunnyhunt]

Just to lighten the tone, I just spotted this with the beautiful Madlin...from 00:50 onwards...

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I'd still love to have her empty my sack!! 

Hopefully this minor setback will spur her on to show the same enthusiasm she does in her movies.

Some bareback anal for the Fan boys to think of when they fuck her next. 

[vorian]

If I was a WG I would stay away from this place. 

That would seem to be the most sensible option for 99.9%, so little to gain and so much to lose, it is not as if the site doesn't already have a vast number of lurkers with nearly full access. I suppose ego and the need for attention must play a big part.

[vt]

Horrible stuff. How anyone can find that erotic I don't know. 

Bizarre what those Hungarian porn directors come up with...but Madlin takes it like a trooper. 

These are a bit more tasteful...

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I hope she's not put off coming to London...and brings more of her pornstar friends with her too...though I doubt we'll see Miss Nappi!! 

[Kabir]

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Her boyfriends maybe

[rogerc23]

why

I thought that would be fairly obvious,I would like to know? As a relatively new and infrequent poster on here this thread is an eye opener as i too had mm down as a banker great punt.
Reading this thread there are a lot of accusations that "fanboy idiots" are behind mm having too positive a reputation.I just find it a little odd that i cant see any names mentioned as otherwise people like me  who dont have time to read every post wont know who this refers to.

[Jerboa]

Just to lighten the tone, I just spotted this with the beautiful Madlin...from 00:50 onwards...

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I'd still love to have her empty my sack!! 

Hopefully this minor setback will spur her on to show the same enthusiasm she does in her movies.

Maybe all the praise and good feedback went to her head, and she got complacent.

[vt]

Maybe all the praise and good feedback went to her head, and she got complacent.

Maybe...it wouldn't be the first time that's happened...there's always a temptation to soft-pedal and take it easy rather than approaching each client as special and worthy of full effort...or she may just have had a bad day...she certainly seems capable of upping her game again though.

[Jerboa]

Maybe...it wouldn't be the first time that's happened...there's always a temptation to soft-pedal and take it easy rather than approaching each client as special and worthy of full effort...or she may just have had a bad day...she certainly seems capable of upping her game again though.

Yes, as I said before It wouldn't stop me from considering seeing her In the future, If her feedback Improves.

[Gigabyte]

Why have you decided to now only do negative reviews on here instead of both negatives and positives?

The thread has definitely taken a turn towards anyone who posts positively is classed as a white knight, fluffy or fanboy.
 

Perhaps it's his way of protesting thar MM got a negative review 

Is that what happened to you James, is that why you dont post reviews?

But no I couldn't care less about MM getting a negative, she deserves it just for the leaving the money on the side comment.  "Implied conduct" too easy in that situation to be accused of theft by a prostitute, and who among us would want to go to court to explain that.

[akauya]

The thread has definitely taken a turn towards anyone who posts positively is classed as a white knight, fluffy or fanboy.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Makes you realise why some long established members posted some time ago that they prefer to do reviews privately via PM. I have certainly received good recommendations via PM which have not seen the light of day here.

I would say some members get caught in a sort of ganging up syndrome "I don't want to be seen as a fanboy/white knight so I'll accuse anyone else a fanboy/white knight and I will deflect all the flak off me" which I find really sad.

[iPad3]

It really would be a shame if people become reluctant to post a positive, I personally have done pretty well on the punting front in my short career as I found ukp early on and usually don't see a girl unless I can find something positive on here.

I could of course adopt the policy of assume all is well unless a negative can be found but to my mind far more risky.

Surely we all have big enough bollucks to be prepared to say what we think without worrying about what others will say??

[Stealthshagger]

we are all in the same boat here, and this site has saved me a fair few times. In that vein, lets just agree that some had good MM experiences, but others have not, and that the most recent review was bad, and MMs response here seemed to confirm the issue was her and reinforced the OP comments (not that I doubted either point at any stage).

Some will see her again, others will not want to. We all make our own choices, and thats the point of this site. informed choice. Lets not let this get into an argument and do what saafe is for (making punters look bad and seem fools).

Lets leave it there and focus on info and getting out peckers milked. Lets not discourage any sort of real reviews.

Thanks for the review OP and the balls to write a review that others (no dig there) might not have written for fear of going against consensus so far or other reasons.

[smiths]

The thread has definitely taken a turn towards anyone who posts positively is classed as a white knight, fluffy or fanboy.
 Is that what happened to you James, is that why you dont post reviews?

But no I couldn't care less about MM getting a negative, she deserves it just for the leaving the money on the side comment.  "Implied conduct" too easy in that situation to be accused of theft by a prostitute, and who among us would want to go to court to explain that.

So to avoid being called a white knight, fluffy or fanboy you wont be doing anymore positive reviews on here, your business of course but you wont get called those things if you simply post an honest review, and dont defend the WG if another punter posts he didnt have a positive punt with the WG.

 The disgrace on this thread in my view was some questioning B&G when he was just posting his opinion of his punt with MM, even checking his reviews and posting his positive to negative ratio when that had NOTHING to do with it. Admin have made clear what will happen to such posters in future.

[hendrix]

we are all in the same boat here, and this site has saved me a fair few times. In that vein, lets just agree that some had good MM experiences, but others have not, and that the most recent review was bad, and MMs response here seemed to confirm the issue was her and reinforced the OP comments (not that I doubted either point at any stage).

Some will see her again, others will not want to. We all make our own choices, and thats the point of this site. informed choice. Lets not let this get into an argument and do what saafe is for (making punters look bad and seem fools).

Lets leave it there and focus on info and getting out peckers milked. Lets not discourage any sort of real reviews.

Thanks for the review OP and the balls to write a review that others (no dig there) might not have written for fear of going against consensus so far or other reasons.

Good post.

[James999]

Is that what happened to you James,

I actually own a pair of bollocks and would state my opinion rather than have an attention seaking tantrum, yu still didn't answer the  question though 

[OldAdmin]

No one said posting a positive review in itself makes you a fluffy fanboy.

Rather it is coming on here, getting all worked up about a negative review, trying to hijack and derail a thread with attacks on others for not posting reviews, making accusations that other punters are bad punters, etc. That is what makes you a fanboy fluffy. Those of us who've been around for a while know what you're doing, have seen it all, even experienced it.

If you don't want to post reviews, then don't, you think I am going to beg you? I'd rather have a site where punters are not afraid of posting negative reviews than appeasing fluffy fanboys.

[Roland D Hay]

About 10 years ago and pre UKP I posted a negative review on Amy of Sheffield on Prossynet, I was naive at the time and thought punters would appreciate the honest feedback. She was just fucking awful and amongst other things forgot to mention that she had a front tooth missing. It transpired that I'd done quite an outrageous thing in daring to criticise Amy, up until this point she was a pillar of the prossie community who had never received any negative feedback whatsoever. Despite all her positive feedback and the criticism I received for posting that feedback,  I was right and I'm pretty sure that the OP is also right. The comment about leaving the cash on display is enough to tell me that she's a fucking idiot! 

[cunnyhunt]

About 10 years ago and pre UKP I posted a negative review on Amy of Sheffield on Prossynet, I was naive at the time and thought punters would appreciate the honest feedback. She was just fucking awful and amongst other things forgot to mention that she had a front tooth missing. It transpired that I'd done quite an outrageous thing in daring to criticise Amy, up until this point she was a pillar of the prossie community who had never received any negative feedback whatsoever. Despite all her positive feedback and the criticism I received for posting that feedback,  I was right and I'm pretty sure that the OP is also right. The comment about leaving the cash on display is enough to tell me that she's a fucking idiot! 

Same for me, substitute Dee of HoD for Amy. I received 3 - 4 emails saying it was my problem that it was a negative and not her, but I did receive 30+ emails saying they had the same experience as me but were too scared to post a Neg FR on HoD as they knew who they were if they booked again.   

[Bangers and Gash]

Well, without wanting to add fuel to the fire....

Towards the end of my ill-fated punt I did ask MM if this was the worst booking she'd ever had. It was a rhetorical question but she replied with ''No, I've had much worse.''

So, considering most/all of her clientele come via Adultwork, where are the negative feedbacks? Did they simply lie or just go home to lick their wounds? because all I can only see are 76+ all tripping over themselves to use words like; phenomenal, amazing, incredible, fantastic!

 

[James999]

Towards the end of my ill-fated punt I did ask MM if this was the worst booking she'd ever had. It was a rhetorical question but she replied with ''No, I've had much worse.''

You have to admire her honesty, shame she wasn't so honest on here 

[punk]

Well, without wanting to add fuel to the fire....

Towards the end of my ill-fated punt I did ask MM if this was the worst booking she'd ever had. It was a rhetorical question but she replied with ''No, I've had much worse.''

So, considering most/all of her clientele come via Adultwork, where are the negative feedbacks? Did they simply lie or just go home to lick their wounds? because all I can only see are 76+ all tripping over themselves to use words like; phenomenal, amazing, incredible, fantastic!

 

priceless info.Wonder if this is the only country she escorts in.

[hendrix]

Well, without wanting to add fuel to the fire....

Towards the end of my ill-fated punt I did ask MM if this was the worst booking she'd ever had. It was a rhetorical question but she replied with ''No, I've had much worse.''

So, considering most/all of her clientele come via Adultwork, where are the negative feedbacks? Did they simply lie or just go home to lick their wounds? because all I can only see are 76+ all tripping over themselves to use words like; phenomenal, amazing, incredible, fantastic!

 

I'm sure we've had punters here say they're reluctant to leave negatives because of getting negatives in return.. The main reason aw feedback has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

[Kabir]

priceless info.Wonder if this is the only country she escorts in.

this is because good money in London if she escorts in Hungary her rate will be £70-£80

[Stalinator]

£50 would be the going rate in Budapest, £60 at an absolute push.

[sucky2dollar]

Maybe she was having a bad day

Having a bad day is never a valid excuse to not deliver and still walk off with someone's £150.

[Jerboa]

priceless info.Wonder if this is the only country she escorts in.

I don't know, but I'm surprised she doesn't tour in Vienna and Germany.

[Stalinator]

Prices would not be high enough there. There is some very good value punting to be had there.

[punk]

surprise me i thought germany would be a good money earning place for an escort along with Holland. Porn films in Hungary cannot earn a porn actress that much money.  i remember reading that a lot of places in hungry are so poor that the girls will do just about any thing to make some cash.

[NIK]

About 10 years ago and pre UKP I posted a negative review on Amy of Sheffield on Prossynet, I was naive at the time and thought punters would appreciate the honest feedback. She was just fucking awful and amongst other things forgot to mention that she had a front tooth missing. It transpired that I'd done quite an outrageous thing in daring to criticise Amy, up until this point she was a pillar of the prossie community who had never received any negative feedback whatsoever. Despite all her positive feedback and the criticism I received for posting that feedback,  I was right and I'm pretty sure that the OP is also right. The comment about leaving the cash on display is enough to tell me that she's a fucking idiot! 

'Beautiful Amy' as she was known was one of the 'darlings' of the Sheffield scene board.I never saw her myself, as despite the attractive looking but blurred photos, I'd heard she was far too old for my tastes - at the time she was probably well older than I was! However I was contacted by two different punters telling me how awful she was, one of them was actually surprised that someone with such a great reputation could be so bad.
I felt it my duty to warn fellow punters, so posted on Sheff scene. I was mercilessly attacked, told those punters didn't exist and I was making it up, accused of trying to ruin girls' businesses, mocked and derided whenever I posted again regardless of what it was about, accused of being a rapist and paedophile, etc, etc.
Eventually I was banned from the site.
All I was trying to do was warn my fellow punters. 

[JV547845]

Part of the problem is one of the hardest things for anyone to do on a forum is to let someone else have the last word, so even though everyone respects B&G's right to post a negative review and think it was useful, and even though a lot of the replies from the so called fan boys were apologetic and trying to get to the bottom of it, subsequent discussion comes across as an epic clash between good and evil.  This is probably more user error than the internet's problem, but pointless online arguments is a very common phenomenon.