Client Eye

[daviemac]

It's been an interesting thread with some thought provoking contributions. Thank you all.

What's noticaeble though is that the differences between punters and SPs are shown in the difference between Client Eye and UKP. As punterest we are in the market for entertainment. That's why we have reviews where there is an expectation of a certain level of detail.

CE I think though is not for those seeking entertainment or to provide an alternative view to UKP but as a resource for those who are providing services in a business context. I'd be interested to see if there is any 'cultural pressures' there like there is here towards leeching.

One thing I consider when doing due diligence ahead of a punt is whether any reviews come from punters who's review percentage is skewed towards the wholly positive or the predominantly negative. I wonder if on CE there are some SPs who have presented lots of punters and whether they hold less weight as a result.

You've got the totally wrong idea about clienteye, it isn't a forum where punters are discussed, there is no interaction at all, there is no way of knowing how many reports a particular escort has made.

If an SP sees a dodgy punter she put's a report on Clienteye, if another SP searches for that punter she will see that report plus any others that have been made.

[JontyR]

Fair enough, would they see the (user)name of the reporter?

[daviemac]

Fair enough, would they see the (user)name of the reporter?

Don't know to be honest, possibly but some punters have double figure reports against them. I would imagine escorts view the reports in a similar way to the way we do with reviews, the more bad reports the less likely the booking.

[Lou2019]

Fair enough, would they see the (user)name of the reporter?

No it’s anonymous

[David50]

It’s very rare I book escorts but tried to call one today who says she is available but my calls are not answered .I have looked but my number isn’t on client eye so odd she is ignoring me

[alabama1]

It’s very rare I book escorts but tried to call one today who says she is available but my calls are not answered .I have looked but my number isn’t on client eye so odd she is ignoring me

No shit Sherlock 

[David50]

No shit Sherlock 

Well we can’t all book escorts 24/7

[finn5555]

It’s very rare I book escorts but tried to call one today who says she is available but my calls are not answered .I have looked but my number isn’t on client eye so odd she is ignoring me

So what 🤷‍♂️

[David50]

So what 🤷‍♂️

Just found it odd she is not answer my call

[daviemac]

Just found it odd she is not answer my call

She might be busy with a punter, would you be happy if she stopped shagging you to answer her phone.   

[David50]

She might be busy with a punter, would you be happy if she stopped shagging you to answer her phone.   

No I would be well pissed off I guess . I am not going to keep on ringing her in the hopes maybe she is free so will just leave it unless she texts me to say okay to call .

[alabama1]

No I would be well pissed off I guess . I am not going to keep on ringing her in the hopes maybe she is free so will just leave it unless she texts me to say okay to call .

Just text her for fucks sake 

[David50]

Just text her for fucks sake 

I did text her

[finn5555]

I did text her

Well done 👏

[SynDee]

So let me get this right....9/10 neg reviews on this forum is because the punters do not want anyone else to have them?

There are thousands of reviews on this forum. There are thousands of members on this site, do you know how many members credibility you have essentially just questioned with that statement?

You seem like a nice person but, can you please explain how you came to that conclusion from your statement?

Because i know one of the sps that was very well known and she is perfect in every single way i swear down, people used to que to see her. she has no enemies and does no wrong, to anyone i swear it. propa perfect.
every P was pleased and satisfied in every way. theres a comment on this site about her ..... cant quote it as dunno if its against the rules...however it says something bad about her body to put other P's off her so they wouldn't see her.
she found out who it is and his reason was because he didn't want anyone else to go see her xx

[SynDee]

same as other comments ive seen, theres no way it can be true, they just dont wanna share her. who can blame them tho, but still had to put my comment out there xx

[s0whatsnew?]

Because i know one of the sps that was very well known and she is perfect in every single way i swear down, people used to que to see her. she has no enemies and does no wrong, to anyone i swear it. propa perfect.
every P was pleased and satisfied in every way. theres a comment on this site about her ..... cant quote it as dunno if its against the rules...however it says something bad about her body to put other P's off her so they wouldn't see her.
she found out who it is and his reason was because he didn't want anyone else to go see her xx

Sorry, but thats just not logical.  I myself saw an SP some years ago who had a 100% perfect review record until my neutral on here.  Lo and behold the truth gradually came out, other punters revealed their reservations and she's now very lo-ranked.  Any one person's opinion is irrelevant, but add them all up and ....

[SynDee]

This was abut her body.....she's perfect

[MissWolf]

This was abut her body.....she's perfect

Nobody is perfect

Perfection is an opinion and everybody has a different opinion

[Doc Holliday]

Nobody is perfect

Perfection is an opinion and everybody has a different opinion

Indeed .. especially with body type.

I have known cases of negative reports by punters with EAS etc ...but it is a very uncommon reason, amongst the spectrum of reasons for a negative. To say 9/10 negatives are because of this agenda is just widely inaccurate.

For a punter who does give a negative to put punters off, you also run the risk of being found out by the SP who then dumps you.

[SynDee]

That’s really bad, I suppose there is no way you can rectify the misinformation on the site?

sorry to hear its been used like this, other times it is actually a safety net x

[juxta]

Just did a search and have got one report. I know exactly when it was too. I was given the postcode and entered the wrong block of apartments (there were 2 next to each other), which was a bit embarrassing at the time as there was someone on the front desk. Hiked up 6 flights of stairs and realised I was in the wrong place. When I told the WG she said I was acting weird and sent some abusive texts. Now I see this, 'SMS/Call pest', which is no doubt for time wasting. Oh well.

[finn5555]

This was abut her body.....she's perfect

Clearly to some folk she isn’t

[Legs4life]

Just did a search and have got one report. I know exactly when it was too. I was given the postcode and entered the wrong block of apartments (there were 2 next to each other), which was a bit embarrassing at the time as there was someone on the front desk. Hiked up 6 flights of stairs and realised I was in the wrong place. When I told the WG she said I was acting weird and sent some abusive texts. Now I see this, 'SMS/Call pest', which is no doubt for time wasting. Oh well.

How did you get to see the report? Its making me verify as if im a SP

[juxta]

How did you get to see the report? Its making me verify as if im a SP

I couldn't access the details of the report as you have to verify, but you can still see the title of the report.

[Tongue in Cheeks]

I have apparently got a couple of reports on CE from someone that has absolutely lied and made everything up that she has posted.

She has posted 3 separate reports and 2 of them are almost word for word the same. The third is very similar. Not sure why she would do this at all because it is utter shite.

This did stop a WG agreeing to meet me but after a couple of e mails explaining what had happened said WG agreed to a phone call and a discussion around these reports. Once we had chatted, for about 45 minutes, she agreed to a booking with me.

I have now seen her 3 times and will be going again and each has been fantastic, up there with the best I have seen. We get on very well and she does but believe I am anything like the reports posted on CE so it can cause issues but they can be overcome on occasions.

Still can’t understand why anyone would make up so many lies for no apparent reason. The thing is I know exactly who it was as she divulged something I said to her and she is the only person I have ever said it so so know who it was.

Have I done anything about it? No, and I won’t be either. I have since mentioned the reports to a-couple of other WG I see regularly and they can’t believe that I am anything like the CE reports say so not everyone believes what they may read.

[LLPunting]

I have apparently got a couple of reports on CE from someone that has absolutely lied and made everything up that she has posted.

...

Did you write a neg review here so that the rest of us can avoid this troublemaker?  Because if you didn't then all you've done is CLAIM you're a good guy and done sweet FA for the rest of us.

[Tongue in Cheeks]

My point was to add that even if you get a bad report on CE or wherever some WGs don’t always believe them and will still agree to see you and that CE isn’t always used properly and fairly.

I have plenty of reviews about how I behave and not a single negative one. Im not trying to say I am a good guy, my reviews on AW will do that for me.

Just to add I did review the WG.

Have a nice day 

[LLPunting]

My point was to add that even if you get a bad report on CE or wherever some WGs don’t always believe them and will still agree to see you and that CE isn’t always used properly and fairly.

I have plenty of reviews about how I behave and not a single negative one. Im not trying to say I am a good guy, my reviews on AW will do that for me.

Just to add I did review the WG.

Have a nice day 

Thanks, the key thing for us is that you reviewed her.   
Get your girls to persuade Client Eye of the injustice being carried out and the need for SPs to be able to challenge lies about their clients.

[MissWolf]

Thanks, the key thing for us is that you reviewed her.   
Get your girls to persuade Client Eye of the injustice being carried out and the need for SPs to be able to challenge lies about their clients.

Just because someone behaves well with one or two doesn't mean they always did, like anything else including the reviews on here its open to interpretation,  one escorts boundary pushing is another one's fun and frolics etc

To suggest someone puts pressure on another to get a report removed because the subject of the report says its false is wrong and open to all manner of abuse, we are into the territory of get my report taken down and I will give you a positive review here in exchange and thats bang out of order.

If someone feels they have been wronged then they themselves need to provide some evidence of that and take it to CE themselves just as an escort has the right to do on here and would need to do if she wanted to prove a review was malicious.

[scutty brown]

Just because someone behaves well with one or two doesn't mean they always did, like anything else including the reviews on here its open to interpretation,  one escorts boundary pushing is another one's fun and frolics etc

To suggest someone puts pressure on another to get a report removed because the subject of the report says its false is wrong and open to all manner of abuse, we are into the territory of get my report taken down and I will give you a positive review here in exchange and thats bang out of order.

If someone feels they have been wronged then they themselves need to provide some evidence of that and take it to CE themselves just as an escort has the right to do on here and would need to do if she wanted to prove a review was malicious.

You're missing the catch-22,
To request removal or correction a punter has to prove his ID to ClientEye. But for a host of reasons  few would be willing to do that.
In a worst case of false claims of a criminal act, requesting removal could create a lot of legal pain - bringing police attention to the punter.

[Atrueyorkie]

You're missing the catch-22,
To request removal or correction a punter has to prove his ID to ClientEye. But for a host of reasons  few would be willing to do that.
In a worst case of false claims of a criminal act, requesting removal could create a lot of legal pain - bringing police attention to the punter.

+1

I sympathise with those who wrongly get reports especially maliciously like this as it’s a ball ache to jump through hoops, share personal information just to remove a false report.

That app is so one sided it’s laughable.

Just change your number by either getting a new punting sim, takes two seconds or call the carrier and you can get your number changed at least 3-4 times a year for free.

If you prefer the long route then just appeal via email but you’ll have to cough up a lot of details and wait a number of days for their “review”  which can supposedly be denied.

Punting phone = peace of mind
Client eye = bullocks and proven to be misused consistently

[Lou2019]

That app is so one sided it’s laughable.

Of course it’s one sided it’s designed for us not you  (yes I know that sounds blunt but that’s the reality)

[scutty brown]

Of course it’s one sided it’s designed for us not you  (yes I know that sounds blunt but that’s the reality)

But if it's full of false reports then it's of little use to you.

[Lou2019]

But if it's full of false reports then it's of little use to you.

That’s we will never know

[juxta]

Of course it’s one sided it’s designed for us not you  (yes I know that sounds blunt but that’s the reality)

And this place is designed for punters but posters will often call out other people's bullshit if a review doesn't seem right while mods take action on spurious claims about SPs and even delete reviews if they breach the terms and conditions.

[daviemac]

and even delete reviews if they breach the terms and conditions.

I can't recall a review being deleted, moved to discussions maybe but not deleted.

[juxta]

I can't recall a review being deleted, moved to discussions maybe but not deleted.

Several I can remember, maybe they were moved elsewhere though. Mainly reviews about contracting STDs etc.

[Atrueyorkie]

Of course it’s one sided it’s designed for us not you  (yes I know that sounds blunt but that’s the reality)

Ukpunting is designed for punters, but SP’s/WG’s can come on here and contest and with credible evidence prevail.

Like I said one sided, no taking it up with you as it’s useless due to the fact it would need to be debated with the creators of client eye and not an sp.

[daviemac]

Several I can remember, maybe they were moved elsewhere though. Mainly reviews about contracting STDs etc.

I'll bow to you superior knowledge.   

BTW, I can't see any reviews in the deleted post log, but what do I know.   

[scutty brown]

I'll bow to you superior knowledge.   

BTW, I can't see any reviews in the deleted post log, but what do I know.   

I've got vague memories of Oldadmin deleting the odd one or two where they busted the rules: STD claims, obvious malicious reports but they were very  very rare and I'd find  it impossible to remember specifics

[juxta]

I'll bow to you superior knowledge.   

BTW, I can't see any reviews in the deleted post log, but what do I know.   

Maybe I'm seeing things A couple of times in the last 12 months I've seen reviews saying an SP gave them Covid or is an STD health risk and came back later and they'd gone.

I thought that if you broke rule 25 - "allegations of sexually transmitted diseases", there's a chance the review will be deleted. If that's not the case, fair enough.

[daviemac]

I've got vague memories of Oldadmin deleting the odd one or two where they busted the rules: STD claims, obvious malicious reports but they were very  very rare and I'd find  it impossible to remember specifics

We remove any STI allegations but that is not the same as deleting reviews.

Stating on here that we delete reviews gives everyone, especially escorts, the wrong idea, reviews are NOT deleted.

[juxta]

We remove any STI allegations but that is not the same as deleting reviews.

Stating on here that we delete reviews gives everyone, especially escorts, the wrong idea, reviews are NOT deleted.

What happens then? I only said deleted as I couldn't find the reviews afterwards in those instances.

[MissWolf]

You're missing the catch-22,
To request removal or correction a punter has to prove his ID to ClientEye. But for a host of reasons  few would be willing to do that.
In a worst case of false claims of a criminal act, requesting removal could create a lot of legal pain - bringing police attention to the punter.

I think this is missing the point too

To persuade or coerce an SP into getting a supposedly false report removed from CE is irony at its finest and would be behaviour to warrant a report

It is also likely to get that SP banned from CE or have her permissions restricted and as flawed as the app might be that could potentially put her in danger from those she would have been able to avoid had she not helped one punter who was butthurt and clearly persuasive.

If he's really that bothered and upset by a report or two then do something himself or change his punting sim etc etc

Last time I looked punting wasn't illegal and if the report is bad enough to warrant a police investigation then that speaks for itself 

[daviemac]

What happens then? I only said deleted as I couldn't find the reviews afterwards in those instances.

You aren't looking in the right place. Once again reviews do NOT get deleted. Now do yourself a favour and accept that you have been told by a moderator that this is the case.

Like I said before telling people that reviews get deleted gives the wrong impression, you are stating something as fact when it isn't fact.

What happens is whatever the site owner, admin or one of the moderators decide is the best course of action in any given circumstances.

[juxta]

You aren't looking in the right place. Once again reviews do NOT get deleted. Now do yourself a favour and accept that you have been told by a moderator that this is the case.

Like I said before telling people that reviews get deleted gives the wrong impression, you are stating something as fact when it isn't fact.

What happens is whatever the site owner, admin or one of the moderators decide is the best course of action in any given circumstances.

Why do I have to "do myself a favour"? It was a genuine question, I'm happy to be corrected and it was already established that you don't delete reviews. The last sentence would have sufficed.

Change my "delete reviews" to remove STI allegations. The point was this site is proactive in removing some information as it can be damaging for SPs while with ClientEye you have to file a report to the same end.

[daviemac]

Why do I have to "do myself a favour"? It was a genuine question, I'm happy to be corrected and it was already established that you don't delete reviews. The last sentence would have sufficed.

Change my "delete reviews" to remove STI allegations. The point was this site is proactive in removing some information as it can be damaging for SPs while with ClientEye you have to file a report to the same end.

You've been here 5 minutes and you are making statements about the site that are not correct and extremely misleading then instead of accepting being told they don't get deleted you start arguing the toss just because you can't find them.

There's now 10 posts on this thread all to do with you claiming reviews get deleted, enough is enough. Don't make statements about the running of the site that you don't know anything about.

[juxta]

You've been here 5 minutes and you are making statements about the site that are not correct and extremely misleading then instead of accepting being told they don't get deleted you start arguing the toss just because you can't find them.

There's now 10 posts on this thread all to do with you claiming reviews get deleted, enough is enough. Don't make statements about the running of the site that you don't know anything about.

Bizarre, honestly. You've been more adamant that reviews are NOT deleted across several posts than me saying they are. I said fair enough if that's not the case and just asked genuinely what might have happened in those instances

[daviemac]

Bizarre, honestly. You've been more adamant that reviews are NOT deleted across several posts than me saying they are. I said fair enough if that's not the case and just asked genuinely what might have happened in those instances

Give it up.